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JoeKan

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Alaskan Camper
« on: October 11, 2018, 08:44:21 PM »
Hey all, I finally purchased a camper and it is a 1970s High/Low pickup Camper. It is not over the cab style and it's 8 ft long. The PO said it weighs around 1000 lbs. which will work fine with my 1/2 ton Silverado. Since the camper is 8 ft. long and my truck is 6.5 ft long I will have to keep the tailgate down. I'm okay with this. My question is how do I secure/strap it down?? It does not have any hooks or tie down brackets.
Any ideas on what to do? I'm going to pick it up on Saturday and I think I'm going to throw some straps around it and secure it to my bed hooks.
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Joe
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Roy M

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2018, 09:30:00 PM »
I think you will find it weighs somewhat more, those things are heavy. Can you scale it on the way home? Be prepared for rear squat and maybe sway. How did the PO fasten it down? It should have brackets on the corners or holes where they were originally fastened.

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2018, 03:55:09 AM »
I'd call the Alaskan factory and ask them.  I hear they are nice, helpful people.

You will also find an active Alaskan Camper sub-forum over on the Wander The West site.  Just Google it.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2018, 06:29:39 PM »
Here's a picture of it.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2018, 08:38:26 PM »
I have had two Alaskan campers.

My Alaskan campers were bolted to the truck bed with bolts through the camper floor with large heavy duty fender washers.

If you are putting an eight foot Alaskan in a 6.5 foot bed you will probably find the CG of the Alaskan will be behind your rear axle which will take weight off of the front axle which could cause handling problems.

My 8 ft cabover Alaskan was about 1500 lbs.
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JoeKan

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2018, 09:16:40 PM »
lavarock, Were there factor made holes in the camper?? This unit weighs under 1000 lbs so shouldn't be a problem with my 1/2 ton.
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Joe
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2018, 09:39:46 PM »
Dad's first camper had holes in the floor, he used carriage bolts and fender washers to fasten it to the box. The second had j-hooks on the box wall. He never had problems but I realize now both systems were woefully inadequate with a heavy camper. I suggest fabbing some good brackets, bolting them to the corners and tie to frame mounted outriggers with chain and turnbuckles.

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2018, 02:37:35 AM »
How do you get it in and out of the truck? I don't see any legs that you'd typically find in a truck camper.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2018, 09:52:05 AM »
How do you get it in and out of the truck? I don't see any legs that you'd typically find in a truck camper.

I used two jacks similar to these. But when I got the cabover Alaskan I used three jacks two on one side and one on the other.

https://www.etrailer.com/Camper-Jack/Brophy/CJ31.html?msclkid=592de3d89e5a1e48c301b81a987bba05&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shop%20-%20Camper%20Jack&utm_term=4577679224483501&utm_content=Camper%20Jack   


A little scary when on the jacks and do not do it if outside with any wind.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2018, 10:55:36 AM »
No kidding!!! That is what dad used, they were not fun.

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2018, 12:04:28 PM »
No kidding!!! That is what dad used, they were not fun.

Looks scary too. All it would take is a slight bump from the truck and it's on the ground.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2018, 01:38:39 PM »
Those jacks are actually pretty stable due to the tripod footprint on the ground and the large support rails carrying the camper.

What can be scary are unipole jacks bolted to each corner of the camper.   They're like balancing the camper on stiletto heels, and all of the twisting force if you bump the camper is carried by the brackets connecting the jacks to the camper.  The strength of the connection relies entirely on the strength of the corner and the underlying blocking the jacks attach to, and whether the underlying wood is intact or has been degraded by moisture, etc.
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JoeKan

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2018, 06:20:03 PM »
Well here she is! Made it home w/o any problem at all and it actually rode very nicely. It has a little wood rot in the back corner and not sure what I can do about that. But overall, I am very pleased and blessed that I got a home when I have to go out of town and work next month. I spent most of the day cleaning her up on the inside and it is almost immaculate.
When I brought her home I didn't bolt her down because I had to put cinder blocks under it because it was resting on my side rails. I'm going have to figure a way to build up the base of it. Any ideas?
In the future, I do plan to bolt it down btw.
Thanks for all the help,
Joe
Sorry, have a hard time posting pictures.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2018, 09:13:38 PM »
Well here she is! Made it home w/o any problem at all and it actually rode very nicely. It has a little wood rot in the back corner and not sure what I can do about that. But overall, I am very pleased and blessed that I got a home when I have to go out of town and work next month. I spent most of the day cleaning her up on the inside and it is almost immaculate.
When I brought her home I didn't bolt her down because I had to put cinder blocks under it because it was resting on my side rails. I'm going have to figure a way to build up the base of it. Any ideas?
In the future, I do plan to bolt it down btw. D
Thanks for all the help,
Joe
Sorry, have a hard time posting pictures.

How much will it need to be raised?

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2018, 10:03:08 PM »
2 inches
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2018, 10:22:15 PM »
Pickup side rails are now higher than in the 70's.  I would use a 2x6 and some plywood to raise it, but be careful if the floor is that old, it may sag, in that case use 3 sets to support.
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2018, 01:06:39 PM »
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2018, 01:58:16 PM »
When you make the base to raise the camper I would recommend redwood for the 2x6 and have them in contact with bed of truck.  Then outdoor type plywood on top of the 2x6.  Use several 2x6 going the length of the bed about 12 inches apart so that any water that may get in the bed under the camper can drain out anytime the front of the truck is higher than the rear.

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2018, 10:13:00 PM »
Thanks! I was wondering how to make the base.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2018, 04:03:41 AM »
Thanks! I was wondering how to make the base.

They don't necessarily have to run from front to back for drainage. Most truck beds already have the ridges to allow the water to drain. You can run the boards from side to side IMHO.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2018, 08:11:16 AM »
They don't necessarily have to run from front to back for drainage. Most truck beds already have the ridges to allow the water to drain. You can run the boards from side to side IMHO.

Rene, I would agree with you IF the camper was entirely in the bed.  In this case, we are talking about an 8 foot camper in a 6.5 foot bed, with the rear 1.5 feet resting on the tailgate.  In this case, I think running the 2x6s front to back will provide better, more rigid support for the camper floor sitting on the tailgate.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2018, 08:15:54 AM »
Rene, I would agree with you IF the camper was entirely in the bed.  In this case, we are talking about an 8 foot camper in a 6.5 foot bed, with the rear 1.5 feet resting on the tailgate.  In this case, I think running the 2x6s front to back will provide better, more rigid support for the camper floor sitting on the tailgate.

You're right. I didn't think of that. Thanks.
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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2018, 09:34:57 AM »
They don't necessarily have to run from front to back for drainage. Most truck beds already have the ridges to allow the water to drain. You can run the boards from side to side IMHO.

I had run mine crosswise with my first Alaskan.  After a couple years I had to remove the Alaskan and found the 2x4 that I had used deformed and filled the ridges in the bed and debris had filled the space and was wet with water.  As a result the 2x4 was also deteriorating from the water.  That is why I recommend redwood.

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2018, 09:41:17 AM »
Funny story regarding the pop up truck campers. On the way up the Alaskan Highway on our 2016 trip, a truck with that style camper hit a huge dip on the highway. He must have been doing 70 MPH. The entire roof of the camper blew off, air conditioning and all. This was very close to Destruction Bay.

The funny part of the story is he kept going while the canvas flapped in the wind. I would have loved to be at his next campground when he arrived.

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2018, 12:38:55 PM »
Alaskan brand campers don't have canvas walls around the pop-top.  The top half has solid walls that fit snugly around the bottom half when the top is lowered into the travel position.  This is much heavier than only having a solid top and it's virtually impossible for the wind to get under the top.

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Re: Alaskan Camper
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2018, 07:15:48 PM »
I'm taking my girl out on her maiden voyage tomorrow!!  :))
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