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2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« on: December 30, 2018, 12:23:17 PM »
2019 trip to Yellowstone

I am planning a trip from Kentucky to Yellowstone and would like to run my itinerary by the experts to see how it looks. Some background and parameters: It will be me, wife, and 2 12 year old girls. and we have 2 weeks. We are driving a 2018 Ford F-350 dually towing a Premier 34BHPR 38 ft travel trailer. In order to maximize vacation, make good time, and keep girls from going stir crazy in the truck the trip out will be driving at night. I work third shift and mostly 12 hour shifts so driving at night isn't an issue for me. I have cousins in Rapid City and Gillette, WY who will be joining us in a convoy to Yellowstone and the Tetons.

7/17 - Leave Kentucky 8pm, arrive Rock Port Rivers Edge Campground in Rock Port, MO around 8am 7/18. Girls will swim and hang out in camper while i sleep.

7/18 - leave Rock Port, MO around 4pm, arrive Rapid City 4am 7/19 staying at Rapid City KOA. After I get a nap, tour Badlands, Mt Rushmore and hang out with family.

7/20 - leave Rapid City 8am and head to Hardin, MT KOA via Gillette WY and arrive at Little Bighorn Battlefield 2pm.

7/21 - leave Hardin, MT 9am to West Yellowstone, MT KOA via I-90, arriving 2pm

7/21 through 7/26 - tour Yellowstone NP

7/26 - leave West Yellowstone KOA 9am via US 191, arrive Virginian RV park in Jackson, WY 12pm. Drive through Grand Teton NP and see a few sights.

7/27 - Leave Jackson, WY 9am, arrive Cody, WY KOA 2pm. Tour Buffalo Bill Museum and drive the Beartooth/Chief Joseph Highway.

7/29 - Leave Cody, WY 9am, arrive Kennebec, SD KOA 8pm.

7/29 - Leave Kennebec, SD 3am, arrive Kansas City KOA 1pm on 7/30.

730 - leave KC KOA 8pm, arrive home at 6am.

To those in the know, how does this trip look? Any advice? Any other forums or threads I should be posting this on?



Thanks in advance,



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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2018, 12:36:53 PM »
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Drive through Grand Teton NP and see a few sights.
I almost choked when I read this. If it were me I would do just the opposite and spend five days at the Tetons and just drive through Yellowstone and see a few sights. I like the Tetons much better than Yellowstone.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2018, 01:17:04 PM »
First off welcome, driving at night may be ok the first night or two, but really is not a good idea out west, particularly in the late spring and early summer months, as there is just way too much wild life on the roads, deer, etc.  I live in Louisiana and when I was younger I used to do a lot of my long distance driving at night also, this is ok in the eastern US, but not a good idea once you get west of a line that runs from central Texas on up.  I recall one trip I was on a number of years ago, in a rush to get home I decided to head back from west Texas after the end of the days events at 9 pm around sunset in about May, within the first 90 miles I had seen over 15 deer either crossing the road or grazing along side, and another 6-8 dead deer along the shoulder of the road.  At that point I decided to stop for the night, I have hit a deer once in my life (12 point buck), and I don't care to repeat the experience.  This gets worse as the wildlife gets larger with Elk, Moose, etc. as we were stopped at the gas station by fishing bridge leaving Yellowstone at about 8 am last year a tow truck pulled in dragging what was once a full size SUV, the thing was totaled, the whole front end was smashed in, I asked the tow truck driver what happened and he said a tourist had hit a moose, this was in Yellowstone where the speed limits are 45 mph, I can't imagine what it would have been like on the interstate in a 75 mph zone.

p.s. on the Yellowstone vs Grand Tetons debate, it really depends on how you like to travel.  With Yellowstone you can see a lot more from your car, or along short trails from the highway pullouts.  With Grand Tetons you really have to get out and away a good bit more to see stuff.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2018, 01:31:51 PM »
What average speed are you using to calculate travel times? If it's much over 50 mph average you might want to refigure your times, since there'll need to be allowance for rest stops, fuel stops and meal stops, even if you can combine some of them. And given that driving an RV (whether towed or towing) takes more concentration than driving a car, thus takes more out of you in the same number of miles.

You might also check some of your routing -- for instance I-90 doesn't get within an hour and a half of Yellowstone park (or West Yellowstone), so you'll need to recognize that a fair chunk of those miles from I-90 to W. Yell. may be at 45 mph or lower at times, since you'll be restricted by traffic (often heavy that time of year) and the road itself which, though the speed limit may be 60 or 65 some places, may only let you average 30-40 mph. Note, too, that speed limits within the parks are 45 mph or less (some places 25 mph), not to mention bison jams, bear jams, etc., meaning that sometimes bison get on the highway and you may not go much faster than they can walk for a mile or more, and lots of people stop and gawk not caring if they provide for other traffic getting through; while the rangers try to control this, there's only so much they can do, and they certainly can do nothing about the wildlife on the road.

And about which park to spend the most time in, that depends on your interests. I sympathize with Tom preferring the Tetons, but I'm not sure I completely agree for someone who is out there for the first time. For repeat visits his remarks are much more pertinent, though (IMO). Still, both are worth spending time in, both are beautiful, and it's all different from what you are used to and worthy of taking camera(s) along.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2018, 02:08:18 PM »
I will add I just did a 550 mile trip from AR. It was a one day trip. I was still tired after a good nights sleep. Your first 2 days are some long hauls.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2018, 02:08:30 PM »
5 days in Yellowstone will give you a nice overview, but I agree, driving through the Tetons for a look at the sights may not give you much of an experience.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2018, 07:40:39 PM »
Hi, I have some tips but dont have time to fully respond for a few days.  One thing though, the kids will be sleeping in the truck not trailer?
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2018, 08:48:49 PM »
Hi, I have some tips but dont have time to fully respond for a few days.  One thing though, the kids will be sleeping in the truck not trailer?

They will be sleeping in truck while I'm driving.  When we stop and camp, they will swim with my wife (making sure to stop and rv parks with good pools) or just hang out in camper. 

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2018, 08:56:22 PM »
What average speed are you using to calculate travel times? If it's much over 50 mph average you might want to refigure your times, since there'll need to be allowance for rest stops, fuel stops and meal stops, even if you can combine some of them. And given that driving an RV (whether towed or towing) takes more concentration than driving a car, thus takes more out of you in the same number of miles.

You might also check some of your routing -- for instance I-90 doesn't get within an hour and a half of Yellowstone park (or West Yellowstone), so you'll need to recognize that a fair chunk of those miles from I-90 to W. Yell. may be at 45 mph or lower at times, since you'll be restricted by traffic (often heavy that time of year) and the road itself which, though the speed limit may be 60 or 65 some places, may only let you average 30-40 mph. Note, too, that speed limits within the parks are 45 mph or less (some places 25 mph), not to mention bison jams, bear jams, etc., meaning that sometimes bison get on the highway and you may not go much faster than they can walk for a mile or more, and lots of people stop and gawk not caring if they provide for other traffic getting through; while the rangers try to control this, there's only so much they can do, and they certainly can do nothing about the wildlife on the road.

And about which park to spend the most time in, that depends on your interests. I sympathize with Tom preferring the Tetons, but I'm not sure I completely agree for someone who is out there for the first time. For repeat visits his remarks are much more pertinent, though (IMO). Still, both are worth spending time in, both are beautiful, and it's all different from what you are used to and worthy of taking camera(s) along.

From KY to SD and rest of interstate i was figuring an average speed of 55mph.  I suppose I'll have to reduce that when calculating drive times in the park, eh? 

As far as route to West Yellowstone, I figured we would make better time taking i-90 through Billings and Bozeman, then turn south on US 191 into West Yellowstone, rather than entering park from the east, especially since we will be coming from Little Bighorn.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2018, 10:36:02 PM »
From KY to SD and rest of interstate i was figuring an average speed of 55mph.  I suppose I'll have to reduce that when calculating drive times in the park, eh? 

As far as route to West Yellowstone, I figured we would make better time taking i-90 through Billings and Bozeman, then turn south on US 191 into West Yellowstone, rather than entering park from the east, especially since we will be coming from Little Bighorn.

On my recent trip I avg. 50 MPH overall. No traffic problems and quick gas stops. (The wife wanted to get home) The trip was 95% interstate.
On my setup @ 60 MPH I get 8 MPG. If I run 70 MPH I get between 4 -6 MPH. which just means that many more stops for gas.
So either way not much change in time but a lot more money for gas.
Your MPG at higher speeds may not be an issue.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2018, 12:37:25 AM »
In 12,000+ miles in my current coach I have yet to exceed an average speed of 50 mph, the best I have managed was 499 miles in 10 hours and 3 minutes, all but 80 miles of which was on I-10 in west Texas. Stopping only for fuel, to eat and the occasional road side rest area to stretch and walk around for a few minutes.  This was also the most miles I have driven in a single day in my current coach.  It would have been better except for a bad accident which delayed traffic by over half an hour just about 10 miles short of my destination.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2018, 07:15:50 AM »
On 7/26 you are allotting 3 hours to go from West Yellowstone to Jackson, driving through Yellowstone NP.

In July traffic is usually at a crawl in Yellowstone.  I would suggest planning for 4-6 hours for the drive.  Also don't over look the time it takes to get into the RV park and get set up.  I'm sure you know that is not a 10 minute process to register, park and set up.  That doesn't leave much time to drive back through the Tetons.

If you pulled out of the RV park at 5am, right when it is getting daylight, that would probably work better. 
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2018, 07:30:24 AM »
I would skip everything but Yellowstone and the Tetons.  That is drive directly to Yellowstone via the quickest route possible, then spend all your time in the two national parks.  When finished with the parks drive directly home.  BTW that is what we always did with our kids for the years from about 3-15 years old, drive quickly to some place and then leisure time while there. No rushing at the main focus for the trip.

Keep in mind the two 12 yr old girls will be much happier with some down time in the afternoons at camp to relax and play.  Kids get very tired of what adults do sometimes.  That is: Drive, go to museum, drive, look at scenic stuff, drive, look at more scenic stuff, get back to camp at 6pm tired, eat supper go to bed and then repeat the same the next day.  Gets very boring for kids.

A couple of examples are: Move the RV from Yellowstone to Jackson and then drive through the Tetons, same with the move from Jackson to Cody.  Neither are what kids get excited about doing.

Happy kids, happy parents.  :)

Usually kids do enjoy walking or hiking on trails for a 1-4 hours hike, much more than looking out the window of a car/truck.  There are some very nice hikes in both parks.

While in Yellowstone, be sure to remember there is a lot more to the geyser basin than Old Faithful.  Old Faithful is nice, but you sit or stand so far back, with a 100 or more of your favorite friends (NOT), all you see is a fountain of water going up and then down.  Plan a 3-4 hour walk though the geyser basin where you can get up close, 10-50 feet, from an active geyser.  You get to see the water going down, the noise of gurgling and spraying, the rumbling of the ground and then the water and steam coming up.  Be sure to check the expected schedule of some of the large infrequent geysers.  If you are lucky you can get up close to one, 40-60 feet away, that erupts 50-75 feet into the air.  That is a exciting experience.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2018, 09:21:50 AM »
Without wishing to throw a wrench into your plans, especially if they're set in stone, I agree with AStravelers about spending more time in Yellowstone and Tetons. I'd carve at least a day, probably two, out of the end of your journey and add it to your time in the Tetons. So many magical things can happen in both parks when you slow WAY down and take the time to allow them to happen. It's incredible how much time you can spend watching moose graze, watching foxes hunt, or watching bears lumbering along the hillside. Those are the moments your 12 year olds are likely to remember forever.

Obviously, it's your call completely, and it's likely both parks will still be there next time you head out that way (if they aren't, we've got bigger problems to worry about!).

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2018, 10:09:29 AM »
To follow up on these latest comments, I too tend to think you should make a more direct line for the Yellowstone area, though I understand the family caravan issue comes into play here.  I would also suggest you look at scenic routing, not the fastest getting too and from Yellowstone.  I-90 across Montana may be the fastest route, but while a nice drive, is far from the most interesting views.  For example there is the wind river canyon highway between Shoshoni and Thermopolis, perhaps the most scenic drive I have ever taken outside of a national park.

On another topic if you have never been to Yellowstone, be aware that the place can cause a sense of sensory overload, this is particularly bad if you are rushing things.  There is just so much to see, it becomes overwhelming, and people just sort of shut down with no, I don't want to walk 3 minutes to see the 5th awe inspiring waterfall of the morning, after a round of seeing Buffalo, Elk and other wildlife, and perhaps a thermal feature or five.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2018, 03:11:51 PM »
On another topic if you have never been to Yellowstone, be aware that the place can cause a sense of sensory overload, this is particularly bad if you are rushing things.  There is just so much to see, it becomes overwhelming, and people just sort of shut down with no, I don't want to walk 3 minutes to see the 5th awe inspiring waterfall of the morning, after a round of seeing Buffalo, Elk and other wildlife, and perhaps a thermal feature or five.

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2019, 05:12:30 PM »
I should add that I have some experience towing campers.  Specifically, after Hurricane Katrina, i hauled over 50 campers (30ft avg) from Northern Indiana factories to locations in Southern Miss, Louisiana, and Florida.  Our hard dates (reservations currently set in stone) are West Yellowstone KOA 7/21-7/26, Virginian RV Park 7/26-7/27.  I haven't booked anything else. 

I want to take my family's interests into account and Badlands and Mt Rushmore are on their list. 

Coming from Rapid City heading to West Yellowstone, we will have to spend the night somewhere along the way.  Although my current Itinerary includes stopping at Little Bighorn Battlefield, I initially thought of spending a night in Cody but want to see the Museum and drive the Beartooth and can't get that accomplished in one night.  (random thought was to spend a night in Cody, see the museum, then just drive from West Yellowstone to the Beartooth and make that one of our 5 Yellowstone tour days). 

This plan is still very fluid...
I want to thank everyone for the advise thus far.  It is much appreciated!

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2019, 05:51:08 PM »
You mention wanting to tour the Buffalo Bill Center of the West museum, this place is huge, we were on a tight schedule when we were passing through Cody on our Yellowstone / big solar eclipse trip a year and and a half ago, we spent about 5 hours in the museum, and I know their were entire wings of it that we did not set foot in, other parts were just walk through and glance at exhibits.  A person with even a casual interest in the material could easily spend 2 or 3 days in this museum, also the material on display is very diverse, the extensive collection of thousands of firearms is just one small part of this museum, which also includes art, western artifacts, and a nature museum.  (note looking at the museums web page they have major renovations going on in the firearms exhibit opening in July)
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2019, 09:20:45 PM »
Whatever you do, don't mention to the Buffalo Bill Museum staff that Buffalo Bill is buried on a mountain overlooking Denver, CO and covered with a ton of cement to prevent Cody, WY from stealing the body and bringing back to Cody.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2019, 09:33:15 PM »
They will be sleeping in truck while I'm driving.  When we stop and camp, they will swim with my wife (making sure to stop and rv parks with good pools) or just hang out in camper.

Aw, I see.  I thought they were gonna swim in the camper.....and then I wanted to see your camper!

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2019, 04:37:49 PM »
Taking into account the girls needing burn energy after driving long days and shortening the days somewhat as well as all of us being on same sleep schedule, i have updated the itinerary:

With u getting another day off here’s my updated itinerary:

7/17 - leave home at 3am arrive KC KOA 2pm

7/18 - KC KOA to Kennebec, SD KOA 8am to 6pm

7/19 - Kennebec KOA to Rapid City driving through Badlands and Wall Drug on way 8am to 2pm. Tour Mt Rushmore after setting up camp

7/20 - rapid city to Hardin, MT via Gillette, WY 9am to 3pm. Go to Little Bighorn battlefield in afternoon

7/21 - Hardin, MT to West Yellowstone KOA 9am to 3pm

7/26 - West Yellowstone to Jackson WY 7am to 1pm. Tour Tetons in afternoon

7/27 - Jackson to Cody 7am to 3pm. Tour museum and beartooth highway in 2 days

7/29 - Cody to Ft Collins KOA 6am to 2pm. Drive through RMNP.

7/30 - FT Collins KOA to Topeka KOA 8am to 6pm

7/31 - Topeka KOA to home 8am to 6pm

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2019, 05:08:57 PM »
Is there any particular reason for so many KOA's?  Nothing against KOA, but it is sort of the Holiday Inn Express of commercial RV campgrounds.
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2019, 05:30:24 PM »
When you say "see the Beartooths" what exactly do you mean?  If you are considering driving the Beartooth highway from Red Lodge into Wyoming with a trailer - think again.  That is a very beautiful drive, but not in a motorhome and not towing.  The grades are too steep and the switchbacks are too tight.  It would be a white-knuckle experience.  Plus it would add hours to your itinerary.  You'll see plenty of mountains on your trip.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2019, 05:54:55 PM »
When you say "see the Beartooths" what exactly do you mean?  If you are considering driving the Beartooth highway from Red Lodge into Wyoming with a trailer - think again.  That is a very beautiful drive, but not in a motorhome and not towing.  The grades are too steep and the switchbacks are too tight.  It would be a white-knuckle experience.  Plus it would add hours to your itinerary.  You'll see plenty of mountains on your trip.

We will be doing 2 nights in Cody. On our first morning, we will drive the truck only and leave the camper at campsite.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2019, 06:03:19 PM »
Is there any particular reason for so many KOA's?  Nothing against KOA, but it is sort of the Holiday Inn Express of commercial RV campgrounds.

Only chose KOA's because KOA corporate seems to expect a certain standard to be maintained at individual locations (kinda like Holiday Inn does).  Girls will want to swim after long drives cooped up in the truck, and pools at KOA's are more likely to be nice.  I have no doubt there are many amazing rv parks out there but for some reason we tend to get duds more often than not.  On a trip of a lifetime, I didn't want to risk it.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2019, 06:12:50 PM »
That latest schedule still looks so tight, to me, that I don't think you'll see a lot in some places, I think you're still being optimistic on travel times, and there's no provision for the unexpected, which often happens (at least to us). For instance:
7/26 - West Yellowstone to Jackson WY 7am to 1pm. Tour Tetons in afternoon

You won't see much. If all you intend to do is drive to the lake and view a little scenery, then you might be OK, but two full days will just scratch the surface, let alone four or five hours in the afternoon (if you get that long).

Granted that you'll have several days for Yellowstone, which may work OK for you.

7/27 - Jackson to Cody 7am to 3pm. Tour museum and beartooth highway in 2 days
I'm not sure you can make it that quickly since the speed limit for much of the trip will vary from 45 mph down to 25 mph, so you'll not see very much of the museum or else you'll not drive the Beartooth, which will likely take most of the day -- remember, it's slow going and you'll be lucky to average 35-40 mph, less on Beartooth itself.

If you like country music, especially the more western variety, Dan Miller's Cowboy Music Revue is very much worth seeing, a nice dinner and a great show at the museum in the evening. There are several other attractions in Cody that, to me, are worth seeing, too.

7/29 - Cody to Ft Collins KOA 6am to 2pm. Drive through RMNP.
If you get into the KOA and settled in camp by 2PM, you'll have time to get to the RMNP entrance and spend an hour or two (it's not a 30 minute drive) in the park before heading back to Ft. Collins. RMNP is huge, though not as large as Yellowstone of course. I'd suggest eliminating this side trip, save it for the future, and allocate that time to seeing other things.

Perhaps I'm a tad pessimistic on the time element (and I didn't comment on some other areas I think are too tight), but I think you're trying to fit too many things in. You might also keep in mind that traffic can be a problem, not counting any bison jams or bear jams (traffic and or animal slowing you to a crawl). But I wish you well, and hope it works out better for you than I'd anticipate, and that you don't get as worn out as I suspect you will on that schedule. Luck...
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2019, 06:32:07 PM »
I agree, it looks like you are driving all these miles to get to places as if they are check points on some rally circuit, and no time scheduled to see the places once you get there.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2019, 08:47:40 PM »
As far as route to West Yellowstone, I figured we would make better time taking i-90 through Billings and Bozeman, then turn south on US 191 into West Yellowstone, rather than entering park from the east, especially since we will be coming from Little Bighorn.

We drive from West Yellowstone to Red Lodge via 191 and I 90.. only stopping for gas as we live here. Takes 5 hours on good day, usually dump at Town Pump...

Also, plan on very slow drives in park. I would recommend  staying at various ends... places in park. It is huge and with kiddos you want to do less back track driving... swim at Boiling River, Firehole with kids... also Koa at Cody has pool....

Driving the Beartooth highway is awesome. I would drive to Red Lodge we have pool at koa, and then drive the pass... just some ideas, great trip. Our kids grudgingly went and visited park for 20 years... now taking their kids!
As for Tetons... lots of wildlife... and things to do in Jackson, but a long drive to Jackson... I would camp in center of what you want to see and go from there!
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2019, 08:27:14 AM »
Taking into account the girls needing burn energy after driving long days and shortening the days somewhat as well as all of us being on same sleep schedule, i have updated the itinerary:

With u getting another day off here’s my updated itinerary:

7/17 - leave home at 3am arrive KC KOA 2pm

7/18 - KC KOA to Kennebec, SD KOA 8am to 6pm

7/19 - Kennebec KOA to Rapid City driving through Badlands and Wall Drug on way 8am to 2pm. Tour Mt Rushmore after setting up camp

7/20 - rapid city to Hardin, MT via Gillette, WY 9am to 3pm. Go to Little Bighorn battlefield in afternoon

7/21 - Hardin, MT to West Yellowstone KOA 9am to 3pm

7/26 - West Yellowstone to Jackson WY 7am to 1pm. Tour Tetons in afternoon

7/27 - Jackson to Cody 7am to 3pm. Tour museum and beartooth highway in 2 days

7/29 - Cody to Ft Collins KOA 6am to 2pm. Drive through RMNP.

7/30 - FT Collins KOA to Topeka KOA 8am to 6pm

7/31 - Topeka KOA to home 8am to 6pm

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I think your idea of driving through the Badlands on the way to Rapid City is sensible.  From what I recall the roads through the Badlands are pretty decent for a rig your size.  If you see any of the black tailed prairie dogs, stop and look for burrowing owls which also use the old burrows to live in.  I wouldn't leave much time for Wall Drug if you plan to go there unless you like shopping.

We visited Mount Rushmore and went to the evening show which was quite patriotic.  However, I much preferred the Crazy Horse National Monument, very interesting with a decent museum and information about the statue and the American Indians.

If you get the chance pop into Deadwood, it is a nice town with lots of wild west history.

The Little Bighorn Battlefield is interesting although mostly fields with some graves and the small museum.  Not much parking for big rigs but I assume you are going in your truck.

Here is a post with some info about South Dakota:

http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,111188.msg1019896.html#msg1019896

We drove the route via Broadus and the road was decent apart from one stretch with roadworks.  Probably quieter than the Interstate.  That said if you are planning on going via Gilette, I would have thought that your trip would be shorter going from there to Cody and missing out the Battlefield.  I would stay longer in the Tetons and miss that out if it were me.... you will see lots in the museum in Cody which will probably replicate the Bighorn stuff.

If you did that then you could go in the Eastern entrance of Yellowstone and see that side of the park as you drove to West Yellowstone and then you could do a day trip to the Northern end and the Beartooth Highway.  Note that the Chief Joseph Highway is also a lovely drive if you come into the park from that end and you should be OK in your rig as we did it with ours - 54ft total.

If you are up on the Beartooth Highway stop and the top and wander around the rocks and listen for the squeaking of the little Pika's that live there.  On the way down to Red Lodge there are several glacial lakes on the left that are very beautiful.  Nice ice cream shop in Red Lodge and the beer from there is nice!

The Old Trail Town in Cody is quite interesting if you have time.

Here are a few links relating to the Tetons and Yellowstone.  I agree with Seilerbird that the Tetons are spectacular and it is a shame you are not spending longer there.

http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,112258.msg1013394.html#msg1013394

http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,111583.msg1007894.html#msg1007894


Hope this helps!
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2019, 06:31:47 AM »
Taking into account the girls needing burn energy after driving long days and shortening the days somewhat as well as all of us being on same sleep schedule, i have updated the itinerary:

With u getting another day off here’s my updated itinerary:

7/17 - leave home at 3am arrive KC KOA 2pm

7/18 - KC KOA to Kennebec, SD KOA 8am to 6pm

7/19 - Kennebec KOA to Rapid City driving through Badlands and Wall Drug on way 8am to 2pm. Tour Mt Rushmore after setting up camp

7/20 - rapid city to Hardin, MT via Gillette, WY 9am to 3pm. Go to Little Bighorn battlefield in afternoon

7/21 - Hardin, MT to West Yellowstone KOA 9am to 3pm

7/26 - West Yellowstone to Jackson WY 7am to 1pm. Tour Tetons in afternoon

7/27 - Jackson to Cody 7am to 3pm. Tour museum and beartooth highway in 2 days

7/29 - Cody to Ft Collins KOA 6am to 2pm. Drive through RMNP.

7/30 - FT Collins KOA to Topeka KOA 8am to 6pm

7/31 - Topeka KOA to home 8am to 6pm
It would be fantastic if you would come back in August after completing your trip and share your experiences, good and bad. 

I do understand from your statements that you and family have several reasons for the tight schedule and interest in seeing "everything" on one trip.   I really do hope it all works out for all of you in the end.  You have planned a very, very, very ambitious trip.   
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2019, 07:06:11 AM »
Sometimes people need to do whistlestop trips. I think it just whets your appetite to return and spend longer.

The main thing is to drive safely, particularly when in scenic areas as it is easy to take your eyes off the road and end up in a ditch (saw an RV like this in the Tetons last year) or worse. And of course to enjoy every moment!
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2019, 05:43:00 AM »
Sometimes people need to do whistlestop trips. I think it just whets your appetite to return and spend longer.

The main thing is to drive safely, particularly when in scenic areas as it is easy to take your eyes off the road and end up in a ditch (saw an RV like this in the Tetons last year) or worse. And of course to enjoy every moment!

In a perfect world the vacation would be much longer but wife and I are still working and vacation time is a factor.  I will definitely be making a list of things to see when we become full timer way down the road.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2019, 05:44:42 AM »
This trip seems to be constantly evolving so I'll post the latest version of the itinerary. The best favor you can do is rip it apart because it helps me plan...

Latest thoughts:

We decided we want 2 nights in Cody and 2 nights in Tetons so something had to go, and it would up being Little Bighorn Battlefield.

We knew we wanted to see Cody and Jackson/Tetons along with Yellowstone so it made more sense to stop in Cody first and end in Jackson rather than circle around Yellowstone in previous plan.

Only destination i haven't decided on a landing spot is the Tetons. Only options for full hookups I see are the Virginian and Fireside Resort, both of which seem like glorified parking lots based on many reviews. Gros Ventre campground sounds awesome but the idea of first come/first serve make the planner in me nervous, and the idea of dry camping makes my wife nervous. As an Eagle Scout who spent many, many nights "roughing it", I'm good with 2 nights without hookups, but my wife and 2 12 yr olds might have issues with the nighttime temps and being limited to the water in fresh tank (42gal). Can someone ease my fears here or present me with an option I've missed?

Changes are in bold.

7/17 - leave home at 3am arrive KC KOA 2pm

7/18 - KC KOA to Kennebec, SD KOA 8am to 6pm

7/19 - Kennebec KOA to Rapid City driving through Badlands and Wall Drug on way 8am to 2pm. Tour Mt Rushmore after setting up camp

7/20 - rapid city to Cody, WY via Gillette, WY 9am to 5pm. 2 nights in Cody, seeing Museum and driving Beartooth Highway.

7/22 - Cody, WY to West Yellowstone KOA 9am to 3pm

7/27 - West Yellowstone to Jackson WY 7am to 1pm. Tour Tetons and Jackson.

7/29 - Jackson to Denver East KOA in Strasburg 5am to 4pm. Route from Jackson will be south to I-70 eastbound at Silverthorne, CO.

7/30 - Strasburg, CO KOA to KC East KOA 3am-2pm

7/31 - KC KOA to home 8am to 6pm


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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2019, 06:27:04 AM »
I can't help much here on where to stay around Grand Tetons, when we were there in the summer of 2017, just before the big solar eclipse, we opted to spend a couple of nights in Dubois at the long horn RV ranch (nice river front commercial rv park), driving across the pass to Grand Tetons two days in a row, before heading into Yellowstone, out through Cody, then to Thermopolis.  Longhorn RV ranch was a nice stop for a couple of nights, gave us a chance to get caught up on laundry, before heading into Yellowstone, etc, but is at the edge of how far I would want to drive to get to Grand Tetons.

This brings me to the next point, why I-70 and Denver?  This seems to take you out of the way?  Having driven both I-70 from Rifle to eastern Colorado, as well as I-80 from Rawlins to eastern Nebraska in the last few years, I would tend to pick I-80. Note I have also driven the route from Rawlins through Saratoga to Steamboat Springs CO in the last 3 years, it is an ok drive though most of the scenic stuff is off the sides of this route, plus it is not nearly as nice as what you will have seen in Yellowstone and Grand Tetons a coupe of days earlier.

Sure I-70 going through from the mountains is a slightly more scenic drive than Rawlins to Cheyenne on I-80, though not by much.  In general I find I-80 an easier drive unless you catch strong cross winds, plus it is 100 miles shorter driving distance, the up and downhill grade is easier, and you don't have to deal with crossing through Denver. Either way eastern Colorado or Nebraska is going to be relatively boring, there is a lot of nothing in eastern Colorado, Nebraska is much the same, though it does seem to have more / bigger small towns.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2019, 10:43:00 AM »
We stayed a month in the Tetons last July/August and had no temperature issues. We topped up batteries with generators for a couple of hours.

If you are at Gros Ventre for 10am you should get a spot.... especially mid week.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2019, 01:38:36 PM »
"7/29 - Jackson to Denver East KOA in Strasburg 5am to 4pm. Route from Jackson will be south to I-70 eastbound at Silverthorne, CO."

I'm not sure you've allowed enough time for this route. That's long haul with some pretty slow roads over some of the route. And I think Isaac has it right that, unless there is something specific you want to see in Denver (Strasburg is most of an hour east of Denver) then I-80 to, maybe I-35, is a better route. Or I-80 to Molene/Davenport then I-64 to Indianapolis. But even to Denver, I-80 to  I-25, then south is a quicker, easier drive.

Still whatever you want is fine, but I think you'll need more time for your planned route.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2019, 03:12:57 PM »
I can't help much here on where to stay around Grand Tetons, when we were there in the summer of 2017, just before the big solar eclipse, we opted to spend a couple of nights in Dubois at the long horn RV ranch (nice river front commercial rv park), driving across the pass to Grand Tetons two days in a row, before heading into Yellowstone, out through Cody, then to Thermopolis.  Longhorn RV ranch was a nice stop for a couple of nights, gave us a chance to get caught up on laundry, before heading into Yellowstone, etc, but is at the edge of how far I would want to drive to get to Grand Tetons.

This brings me to the next point, why I-70 and Denver?  This seems to take you out of the way?  Having driven both I-70 from Rifle to eastern Colorado, as well as I-80 from Rawlins to eastern Nebraska in the last few years, I would tend to pick I-80. Note I have also driven the route from Rawlins through Saratoga to Steamboat Springs CO in the last 3 years, it is an ok drive though most of the scenic stuff is off the sides of this route, plus it is not nearly as nice as what you will have seen in Yellowstone and Grand Tetons a coupe of days earlier.

Sure I-70 going through from the mountains is a slightly more scenic drive than Rawlins to Cheyenne on I-80, though not by much.  In general I find I-80 an easier drive unless you catch strong cross winds, plus it is 100 miles shorter driving distance, the up and downhill grade is easier, and you don't have to deal with crossing through Denver. Either way eastern Colorado or Nebraska is going to be relatively boring, there is a lot of nothing in eastern Colorado, Nebraska is much the same, though it does seem to have more / bigger small towns.

I have to either take I-80 across Nebraska or I-70 across Kansas, both boring I know.  I was thinking if we shot down to I-70, we could cross the Rockies and experience the Eisenhower tunnel.  But if you guys think my timeline is gonna be severely affected by getting on I-70 west of Denver, then I need to adjust.  Ultimately, i have 3 days and 2 nights to get 1600 miles, so efficiency needs to rule the day here.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2019, 03:40:35 PM »
My guess is that the I-70 route would add about 3 to 4 hours vs I-80
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2019, 08:00:41 AM »
This trip seems to be constantly evolving so I'll post the latest version of the itinerary. The best favor you can do is rip it apart because it helps me plan...

Latest thoughts:............................Only destination i haven't decided on a landing spot is the Tetons. Only options for full hookups I see are the Virginian and Fireside Resort, both of which seem like glorified parking lots based on many reviews. Gros Ventre campground sounds awesome but the idea of first come/first serve make the planner in me nervous, and the idea of dry camping makes my wife nervous. As an Eagle Scout who spent many, many nights "roughing it", I'm good with 2 nights without hookups, but my wife and 2 12 yr olds might have issues with the nighttime temps and being limited to the water in fresh tank (42gal). Can someone ease my fears here or present me with an option I've missed?..................

7/27 - West Yellowstone to Jackson WY 7am to 1pm. Tour Tetons and Jackson.......................
Gros Ventre may be iffy for finding an open spot arriving at 1pm on a Saturday. 

About dry camping.......
Dry camping is no big problem, you just have to plan to conserve and practice a little bit.

2-3 nights and you have a generator to charge your batteries (assuming your batteries are in very good condition) you won't have a problem with 42 gallons of fresh water and your holding tanks.  You won't take long showers and it is best if you just do a wash cloth and sink instead of a shower. 

Just don't make this trip the first time you dry camp in the RV.  You have 6 months before the trip.  If you can stay in the RV where it is parked, then just go there and spend a couple nights w/o hookups to practice.  Or take the RV to an RV Park and spend 2-3 nights not hooked up.  This way you can just dump before you take the RV back to where you store it.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2019, 12:47:52 PM »


.....just enjoy your trip

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2019, 07:00:34 AM »
An update to our trip, now just 37 days away. We have decided to travel from KY to SD via Indianapolis, Peoria, and Des Moines. It will be a 2 days drive with one night stay over in between.

7/17 - leave home at 3am arrive Des Moines West KOA 3pm

7/18 - Des Moines West KOA to Keystone, SD 6am to 5pm

7/19 - Tour Badlands, Mt Rushmore

7/20 - rapid city to Cody, WY via Gillette, WY 9am to 5pm. 2 nights in Cody, seeing Museum and driving Beartooth Highway.

7/22 - Cody, WY to West Yellowstone KOA 9am to 3pm

7/27 - West Yellowstone to Jackson WY 7am to 1pm. Tour Tetons and Jackson.

7/29 - Jackson to Cheyenne KOA 8am to 4pm

7/30 - Cheyenne KOA to KC East KOA 3am-3pm

7/31 - KC KOA to home 8am to 6pm

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2019, 10:19:06 PM »
Good luck with this itinerary. We are on the road right now in Mitchell, SD. It took us since last Saturday to get this far. Mind you, the last two days were spent at HWH in Moscow, IA and Winnebago in Forest City, IA getting repairs done to the coach, but that leaves six days that we have traveled. Yesterday, I was so tired, I hit the wall and crashed in the customer service lounge waiting for the coach repair to be finished.

I just hope that if you can make this drive as quickly as you have planned, you are still in a condition to enjoy your vacation when you get there. Others have previously told you to consider how big the West really is and what kind of slowdowns you might encounter. Take heed of what has been said by those who have already made this trip. Driving any kind of RV is going to take more out of you than it would if you were driving a car or truck. I can drive about three days of 300 miles per day before needing a break. I'm sure you can go farther than that, but sooner or later, it will catch up with anybody.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2019, 01:11:26 AM »
Rushmore by itself will be a waste. I see you did come around to the idea of driving thru the Badlands on the way to Rapid and not back tracking like the original plan. Wall Drug is a neat tourist trap. The kids might actually like it, I found it a waste of 30 minutes of my traveling time. I stayed at Spearfish in the City campground. No pool but very scenic and adjacent to the fish hatchery which reminded me of Japanese gardens. You would find people at all hours of the day and night wandering in there looking at the fish. The extremely nice city park is adjacent to the campground and fish hatchery.

I haven't been to the battlefield but as noted, there isn't much there from what I see on the web.

The Badlands are a huge erosion. Very scenic, especially after a rain when the colors of the soil stand out, but I would do a dedicated Black Hills/Badlands trip and skip all of that this trip to give you more time in Wyoming.

The Black Hills are a trip unto themselves. You can spend two hours at Rushmore and see the busts of "four dead presidents" and the museum and the movie, or you can do all of that plus visit Crazy Horse (which I liked a lot more) and then return for the night show at Rushmore (which I did not). Parking at Rushmore is $10, admission is free. Parking is in a parking garage and extremely tight. A dually is not a good choice there.

There are pay showers at Colter Bay, which are open to campers from other campgrounds, you may need them.

I am planning on leaving from South of Atlanta July 27 or 28 and traveling to the Tetons. Returning home about August 12 or 13. Trip hinges on getting the girlfriends niece to come down from Philly and live with my cats. I will not put them thru the pain of being boarded.  I plan about 500 miles a day (when I had the motorhome) and expect to do the same with the truck and trailer.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2019, 04:13:30 PM »
Rushmore by itself will be a waste. I see you did come around to the idea of driving thru the Badlands on the way to Rapid and not back tracking like the original plan. Wall Drug is a neat tourist trap. The kids might actually like it, I found it a waste of 30 minutes of my traveling time. I stayed at Spearfish in the City campground. No pool but very scenic and adjacent to the fish hatchery which reminded me of Japanese gardens. You would find people at all hours of the day and night wandering in there looking at the fish. The extremely nice city park is adjacent to the campground and fish hatchery.

I haven't been to the battlefield but as noted, there isn't much there from what I see on the web.

The Badlands are a huge erosion. Very scenic, especially after a rain when the colors of the soil stand out, but I would do a dedicated Black Hills/Badlands trip and skip all of that this trip to give you more time in Wyoming.

The Black Hills are a trip unto themselves. You can spend two hours at Rushmore and see the busts of "four dead presidents" and the museum and the movie, or you can do all of that plus visit Crazy Horse (which I liked a lot more) and then return for the night show at Rushmore (which I did not). Parking at Rushmore is $10, admission is free. Parking is in a parking garage and extremely tight. A dually is not a good choice there.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2019, 11:34:00 PM »
Oddly, I went through most of my life thinking the "Badlands" was an area where the bad guys of the old west, the murders, and the troublemakers, hid out. I did not realize that the indians quite literally gave it a name that translated, meant "bad land", hence, useless land.  ::)

Not sure how I missed that, I have a college education and took many history and geography courses, but it never came up before.  :-[

If you plan on visiting the Black Hills, I HIGHLY suggest that you FIRST spend a couple of hours in Rapid City (simply known as Rapid to the locals) at a museum called "The Journey" which covers the geologic development of the Black Hills, Indian history of the area, and the history from the time of the first white men appearing in the area and the 1874 expedition by George Custer, all the way to the present day. It is a large and well presented museum, and quite worthy of 2 to 3 hours of your time to learn about what you will see touring the area.

http://www.journeymuseum.org/visit

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« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2019, 05:28:07 AM »
I want to thank everyone again for all of the great advice! We are a few days out now from pulling out of KY and are very excited. It will be me, wife, two 12 year old girls and my aunt piled into a crew cab truck for several days in a row. I suppose it's time to teach the girls how to play the license plate game.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2019, 07:55:11 AM »
There's also the billboard or sign game, where each kid, looking out her own side of the truck, looks for certain words or things in alphabetical order, calling it out loud. Depending on where you are, this may go quickly or it may take a while to get through the alphabet. Of course there's also Riddle-Me-Ree, where one says, "RIddle me, riddle me, riddle me reee, I see something that begins with C." Then the other has to figure out what it is, then it's her turn. Maybe it was a car. And that last part can be changed to get something like: "RIddle me, riddle me, Riddle me ray, I see something that begins with A." Perhaps it was an antelope.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2019, 09:58:22 AM »
Good luck and keep us updated, at least for much of the drive you will have interesting or at least varied scenery along your route to help pass the time.  I find the worst, longest feeling drives are the ones where the scenery looks the same mile after mile after mile.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2019, 09:07:57 AM »
I want to thank everyone again for all of the great advice! We are a few days out now from pulling out of KY and are very excited. It will be me, wife, two 12 year old girls and my aunt piled into a crew cab truck for several days in a row. I suppose it's time to teach the girls how to play the license plate game.

There was talk somewhere else of adapting the old "Slug Bug" game to motorcycles.  The premise was that someone who played "Slug-Bug" as a kid still notices VW's as an old guy.  It would be very helpful to teach younger people to notice motorcycles as kids so that they might still notice them when they are of an age to share the road.  The cool thing is, the kids wouldn't even realize they were learning anything.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2019, 10:48:44 AM »
There was talk somewhere else of adapting the old "Slug Bug" game to motorcycles.  The premise was that someone who played "Slug-Bug" as a kid still notices VW's as an old guy.  It would be very helpful to teach younger people to notice motorcycles as kids so that they might still notice them when they are of an age to share the road.  The cool thing is, the kids wouldn't even realize they were learning anything.

Great idea.
gotta come up with a new name, though.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2019, 01:23:59 PM »
I want to thank everyone who gave me advice for this trip.  It was the adventure of our lives and we wouldn't have had as good of a time without advice from you!  I still haven’t uploaded all our photos but will post when I do.

2019 Western Adventure Trip Report

July 16th - Drove to Lexington and picked up truck at Enterprise (2019 Ram 3500 DRW w/Cummins diesel.  I could tell right away the truck was going to be a beast but was nervous about driving a dually around.  I brought DD along to help remember all the info we were to hear during camper walkthrough and I took her to breakfast.  We went to dealership to pick up camper, a 2020 Sunset Trail 331BH.  It was a beautiful camper and the folks at dealership couldn’t have been nicer.  After a walkthrough on how to operate slides, appliances, and dumping tanks, we headed home.  In retrospect, I should have asked more questions about dumping tanks (more on that later).  I backed camper into yard beside house and DW, DD, and I began loading up camper for the trip.  DW worked til 5pm that day so it was a whirlwind packing job and in the process I left the TripTik at home.


July 17th - We left KY at 3am heading for Des Moines West KOA, 665 miles away.  Our group in truck was myself, my aunt, DW, DD and her best friend.  Bringing two 12 year old girls on a road trip like this could have been a nightmare, but they did great.  Arrived in Des Moines in just under 12 hours.  I enjoy driving and the 1 ton dually allowed an effortless tow.  We didn’t experience any trailer sway in wind, passing semis or anywhere else.  It was a one handed drive for the majority of the trip.  I stop for fuel every 200 miles or so, and will stop anywhere in between if I need to hit the restroom or stretch my legs.  I have a Pilot/Flying J RV plus card and had already planned out all my fuel stops along the way.  I used the RV pumps at Flying J, and the big truck pumps at Pilots.  We made good time, the truck (rated to pull over 20K) didn’t even know the travel trailer (about 10K loaded) was behind it.  I set cruise on 73mph and used my IR temp gun to check tires and hubs at every stop, no issues the entire trip.  When I hauled FEMA campers after Katrina I had a lot of bad luck with blown trailer tires so I had the dealership give me a second spare to carry in bed of truck in addition to the one attached to the bumper.  I never needed them, thankfully.  Des Moines KOA was great and I recommend it. 

July 18th & 19th - Left Des Moines at 4am heading for Rapid City, SD.  We stopped off at Badlands NP and Wall Drug, which the girls loved.  We carried on to Rapid City, made camp at Rushmore Shadows RV Park and spent the next day and a half visiting with family and seeing Mt Rushmore.  My parents flew in to Denver while we were here, and drove up in a rental.  I made my first dump of tanks here and found that since camper has full bath up front and half back at back near bunks, I had 2 dump tanks and one hose so I would get the pleasure of dumping black first, then grey (as I have researched), then disconnect hose and hook up to other connection and repeat the process.  This was something I was dreading but it went well and wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be.  Rushmore Shadows is a members only campground (I think they do rent sites to non-members) with nice amenities.  My cousin is a member and reserved a great site for 2 nights.

July 20th - Left Rapid City with 3 vehicle convoy (us, my parents, and my cousin and her kids) and met another cousin and his family at the Flying J in Gillette.  From there, our convoy (plus a truck pulling another camper) headed for Cody, WY via HWY 16 over the BigHorn mountains.  My cousin was driving a 18 1500 Ram pulling a camper of similar size to ours so he was much slower up and down the grades than us.  Honestly, the 3500 Ram Dually acted like it wasn’t hardly pulling anything.  I learned to love the exhaust break on this truck!  I hardly needed to touch the brake pedal.  Arrived in Cody, set up camp and just relaxed for rest of the evening.  Cody KOA was nice with lots to do for the kids.  I saw a lot of advice to stock up at Walmart in Cody before going to Yellowstone and they were right.  The two grocery stores in West Yellowstone had a good selection but prices were much higher. 

July 21st  - Drove from Cody up Chief Joseph Hwy to Beartooth Hwy.  This was probably my favorite part of the entire trip.  We stopped at a pull off at the top and had a snowball fight in the snow, in late July!  Very cool!  After driving back to Cody, we went to Nite Rodeo which was a little hokey for me but the girls loved it.

July 22 - Convoy headed to Westgate KOA in West Yellowstone via east Yellowstone entrance and through the park.  We didn’t encounter much slowdowns except for some construction on the east side where the road wasn’t paved.  We arrived at KOA about 6 hours later, set up camp, and relaxed for the rest of the evening.  At some point during our stay at Yellowstone, our refrigerator starting giving out a fault code.  It would flash a red light 5 times in a row.  I looked in manual and it said there was an issue with internal controls and we should take to a dealer.  We decided to manage as best we could for the rest of the trip.  Our trailer had an outside kitchen with a good size dorm fridge that stayed cold while hooked to shore power so we put most things in that.  I also brought a 60 quart and 65 quart cooler so we used those for traveling between power hookups.  The fridge would randomly work then quit working. We tried all 3 settings, auto, gas only, and electric only, it didn’t matter. 

July 23-26 - Toured Yellowstone, leaving camp at around 630am each day to get ahead of the crowds.  We saw Old Faithful, had a birthday lunch for DD at Old Faithful Inn, and saw rest of Upper Geyser basin.  We also saw Tower Fall, did the Old West Cookout at Roosevelt, saw Mammoth Hot Springs.  I must say that the Westgate KOA was great.  Friendly workers, huge camp store with great selection (although expensive) of groceries, RV supplies, and souvenirs.  Many times across many websites I read that “you can’t see it all at Yellowstone” and it’s true.  We had planned 4 full days of touring but by the end of the third day we were wiped and ended up spending the 4th day sleeping in, swimming in pool, and just relaxing. 

July 27th - Left West Yellowstone heading for Jackson WY going south through Idaho and via WY 22 across Teton pass.  I read a lot of reviews of that pass and its 10% grades and how scary it was.  After how well the truck had handled the trailer up til now, I felt we could handle it and I was right.  Going up the truck would accelerate up the grade if I asked it to but we stayed slow to enjoy the view.  Going down, I set the cruise on 20 mph and put the exhaust brake on auto and the truck did the rest.  I had to tap the brakes a few times because of an RV ahead going slower than us but it was awesome.  We arrived at Fireside Resort in Jackson Hole in early afternoon and set up camp.  We toured downtown Jackson, had dinner at Pinky G’s (awesome!!) bought some souvenirs and drove through GTNP in late afternoon looking for wildlife (saw some Pronghorn). 

July 28th - we did the Jenny Lake hike (via the boat ferry) to Inspiration Point and it was awesome.  We spent the rest of the day making a run to Albertsons (first major grocery store since Wal-mart in Cody) and walking around shops in Jackson again.

July 29th - drove from Jackson to Cheyenne KOA, leaving around 8am and arriving in Cheyenne in late afternoon.  Cheyenne KOA was nice, people were friendly, bathrooms and entire campground was spotless.  It took a minute to get used the the all gravel campground (felt like were were in a scene of Raising Arizona).  DW and I went to Cheyenne Walmart and it was “different”.  Wife saw at least one drug deal in parking lot and we both got a very weird vibe there. 

July 30th - Left Cheyenne KOA heading for KC East KOA at 3am sharp.  I had a 680 mile run ahead of me and I wanted to get as much done before sunrise as I could.  We made it to Big Springs, NE by sunrise and I did good on drive.  I would go around 200 miles between stops for fuel and would stop at rest areas to stretch my legs occasionally. We arrive at KC KOA late in afternoon, set up camp, and girls went to swim.  KC East/Oak Grove KOA was nicest we stayed at!  Super friendly workers and we even had delicious BBQ delivered right to our site. 
An interesting happened at 245am as I prepared to dump all the tanks for the last time before turning camper into dealer.  I dumped black and grey tanks at rear connection for half bath without incident, then reconnected hose to forward connection to dump main tanks.  I reached for the black tank valve and it was GONE!!!  I looked with flashlight and could see the hole in the enclosed bottom of trailer where it should be but somewhere between Cheyenne and KC it fell off.  I took it very ease going in and out of truck stops, construction areas, and anywhere else significant bumps in the road existed. 

July 31th - Left KC KOA around 330am and headed home.  Made it through St Louis right before rush hour got bad and rest of trip was smooth sailing.  Arrived home around 3pm and unpacked camper and truck. 

August 1st - I took truck and camper back to RV dealer and Enterprise location, picked up my car and headed home.  RV dealer was very apologetic about the lost groceries and inconvenience from our refrigerator issues.  She said there has been other issues with that brand of refrigerator.  She said the missing black tank handle wasn’t a big deal. 

John Stephens

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2019, 01:36:21 PM »
I'm glad you enjoyed your trip. You made a similar trip in two weeks to what we are doing in three months although we visited a few more places and are making this into a 9,000 mile trip. You have to work with what you've got.
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Larry N.

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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2019, 02:20:36 PM »
Thanks for the rundown on your trip. It's great you folks were able to enjoy such a fast paced trip.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2019, 03:14:12 PM »
Thanks for posting back, glad it went well, so often we never hear how these trips went.
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Re: 2019 Trip from KY to Yellowstone/Tetons
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2019, 11:38:35 AM »
Sounds like you had a fantastic time. Glad it worked out and you had a safe trip.
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