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Best way to learn guitar for beginners
« on: October 20, 2019, 07:30:31 AM »
For literally 40 years I have told myself I'd like to play the guitar. It turns out, if you don't buy a guitar and do something about it, it doesn't happen. So that's about to change.


In the 'old' days, one would take guitar lessons. And while I'm sure this is still be a good idea, there are now lots of other options. So many in fact, it's hard to choose. I'm sure there's standalone software, plus online courses such as Center Stage (which seems reasonably priced if it's any good). Other online sites I've seen recommended are GuitarTricks, JamPlay, Fender Play, TrueFire and ArtistsWorks. I'm sure there are many others.


So I'm looking for guidance. Best lessons, online, software, etc. Thing to get (other than the guitar of course ::) ). For example, I had a suggestion to temporarily get the little string markers to assist in finger placement. Also, while the prevailing guidance seems to be "just learn a few chords" I've also read that while this may get a beginner playing a couple easy songs early, it will limit the ability to continue to get better down the road (vs doing it the more 'old fashioned way' practicing scales and other more technical but not so fun aspects).


I believe I've chosen this guitar. Very highly rated as sounding excellent and being a good beginner's guitar, solid spruce top (which I've read in several places is a good thing) and reasonably priced. Plus a recognized name if that means anything.


What say you virtuosos?
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Re: Best way to learn guitar for beginners
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2019, 08:26:48 AM »
That is a nice guitar Scott but I would recommend this one:

https://www.amazon.com/ADM-Acoustic-Electric-Dreadnought-Handmade/dp/B07D11J72W/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=guitar+with+tuner+built+in&qid=1571576726&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-5

The reason being is it has a built in tuner. Most people are using clip on tuners but after you use a guitar with a built in tuner it really spoils you. This one also comes with a gig bag which I feel is a necessity. It is also able to be plugged into an amplifier which you will eventually find useful.

There are two basic ways to learn to play guitar. One is to learn to play your favorite songs by watching YouTube videos and the other way is to learn to play the guitar by learning music theory and learning what chords are and how they are built. Most take the easy way and just learn songs. The problem with this method is that with every song you start over from scratch and you never really learn how to play the guitar, just a few songs on the guitar.

But in all honesty I recommend you do not try and learn how to play guitar. The guitar is a very difficult instrument for a beginner to get started on. If you don't practice often you will never get good. If you do practice often your fingers will be in a lot of pain. Either way you will probably give up after a month or two and the guitar will stay in the closet. It takes a lot of dedication and a lot of pain to get past the raw beginner stage. If I had a dollar for every unplayed guitar in a baby boomer closet I could probably buy Microsoft.

What I do recommend it buying a ukulele and learning to play it. If you were here with me I could have you playing songs in less than a half an hour and your fingers would not hurt. Ukuleles have only four strings as opposed to six and the strings are plastic rather than metal. Here is a tenor ukulele that come with all the extras you need and is a lot less expensive than a guitar. You odds of success are many times higher. And most communities have ukulele meet up groups that get together regularly to practice and play songs. There are similar guitar groups but not nearly as many and the uke is a lot easier to transport.

https://www.amazon.com/Caramel-Electric-Ukulele-Professional-Beginner/dp/B07R2KHSMH/ref=sr_1_12?keywords=tenor+ukulele+with+tuner+built+in&qid=1571577334&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-12

Then after you have been playing the ukulele for a year and have built up some finger strength you can buy a guitar. And when shopping for a guitar or a uke don't even think about quality. The quality of the cheapest Chinese guitars on the market today are very high. Only after you have been playing a long time will you notice the quality differences.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2019, 08:47:32 AM »
the other way is to learn to play the guitar by learning music theory and learning what chords are and how they are built. Most take the easy way and just learn songs.

How would you suggest one best do this?
But in all honesty I recommend you do not try and learn how to play guitar. The guitar is a very difficult instrument for a beginner to get started on. If you don't practice often you will never get good. If you do practice often your fingers will be in a lot of pain. Either way you will probably give up after a month or two and the guitar will stay in the closet.

What I do recommend it buying a ukulele and learning to play it. Then after you have been playing the ukulele for a year and have built up some finger strength you can buy a guitar.

I have heard the "start with a ukulele" advice before. For a beginner who has played for a year, what's the transition like to a guitar? And where/how (online, software, etc) would you suggest a rank beginner learn to play the ukulele? Wouldn't it still be best to learn theory, or is the ukulele used more as just an exercise device and theory would come at the guitar transition?

Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Best way to learn guitar for beginners
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2019, 09:11:56 AM »
Scott, are you a traveler or do you stay in one place a lot? If you stay in one place, go look for a good, small guitar/music shop and talk to them. Yes, you will pay for more a guitar there than mail order, but you can get good advice. For example, not all guitars have steel strings, and a good guitar shop can even adjust the neck of a steel string guitar to take nylon strings. The sound isnít as loud, but you are still playing. I started using the online Justin guitar beginner course, and it works for me. However I played violin for 3 years, oboe for 5 years, and piano for time immemorial. I know lots of music theory, so I just wanted something to help me translate that knowledge to the guitar. I even played guitar back in my HS and college days (no picking, just chords), but it has been over 35 since I restarted. And Tom is right about steel strings hurting! Short bouts of practice if you go that way. After about 10 minutes my fingers get numb and it doesnít hurt as much LOL!
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2019, 09:13:18 AM »
Here is a tenor ukulele that come with all the extras you need and is a lot less expensive than a guitar.

https://www.amazon.com/Caramel-Electric-Ukulele-Professional-Beginner/dp/B07R2KHSMH/ref=sr_1_12?keywords=tenor+ukulele+with+tuner+built+in&qid=1571577334&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-12


I note that several reviews refer to it as a baritone ukulele, I suspect it's Amazon mismatching reviews. But what about that, baritone vs tenor. Seems like I might like the lower sound (more guitar-like?? ??? ). Why did you suggest the tenor?
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2019, 09:15:34 AM »
Scott, are you a traveler or do you stay in one place a lot?

Currently I'm only moving 2-3 times per year. I may throw in a trip here and there but don't expect that to change a lot
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2019, 09:27:14 AM »
How would you suggest one best do this?
I have heard the "start with a ukulele" advice before. For a beginner who has played for a year, what's the transition like to a guitar? And where/how (online, software, etc) would you suggest a rank beginner learn to play the ukulele? Wouldn't it still be best to learn theory, or is the ukulele used more as just an exercise device and theory would come at the guitar transition?

Thanks for the advice.

I am in the midst of learning music theory. 
start with doing a web search for Music theory classes.
There are a number of them. The one I am taking is from udemy.com
Look for special prices and such, because there are a number of very expensive courses.

Here is one I found recently, though, that looks promising, and the price is right. https://www.musictheory.net/lessons



 
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2019, 09:49:41 AM »
How would you suggest one best do this?
I don't really know the best way to do it. Music theory is a huge subject and there are lots of books and videos available. YouTube would be my choice to start.
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I have heard the "start with a ukulele" advice before. For a beginner who has played for a year, what's the transition like to a guitar? And where/how (online, software, etc) would you suggest a rank beginner learn to play the ukulele?
YouTube has thousands of beginner videos. I started with the guitar in the 60s when there were no videos, DVDs, books, magazines or in my town even guitar teachers. I only knew one person who played guitar and he was not very good. I had to learn by listening to a song and trying to copy it. Think of the lead to Day Tripper. It was easy to figure out and impressive for a first year guy to be playing. I learned the basic chords and tried to play my favorite songs. Sometimes I was even successful. Then after 50 years of playing guitar I became jealous of Tom's ukulele club and found one locally and joined it. I hardly even touched my guitar after that.
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Wouldn't it still be best to learn theory, or is the ukulele used more as just an exercise device and theory would come at the guitar transition?
The more you know about music theory the better you  will be at being a musician. Most people think of the ukulele as a rinky dink little thing that plays ticky tacky melodies. The uke is a lot more than you would ever imagine. It is a very serious instrument and just as legit as a guitar. Check out this video to see what I mean.

https://youtu.be/puSkP3uym5k

My favorite Jake video is Dragon, where he plays a rhythm part on stage and records it and then puts it in a loop and plays with himself. Jimi Hendrix would be jealous.

Check out this gem from the UOGB whom are as funny as they are good.

https://youtu.be/pLgJ7pk0X-s

Or Highway To Hell.

https://youtu.be/F5-z1c-9QmE

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2019, 09:56:42 AM »
I am in the midst of learning music theory. 
start with doing a web search for Music theory classes.
There are a number of them. The one I am taking is from udemy.com
Look for special prices and such, because there are a number of very expensive courses.

Here is one I found recently, though, that looks promising, and the price is right. https://www.musictheory.net/lessons


Excellent resources thx
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Re: Best way to learn guitar for beginners
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2019, 09:57:34 AM »
I note that several reviews refer to it as a baritone ukulele, I suspect it's Amazon mismatching reviews. But what about that, baritone vs tenor. Seems like I might like the lower sound (more guitar-like?? ??? ). Why did you suggest the tenor?
There are four basic uke sizes. Soprano, the tiny one most people think of when they think of a uke. Concert, slightly larger than a soprano. Tenor, slightly larger than a concert. And a baritone. A baritone isn't really a uke it is a small guitar. It is not tuned like a uke and doesn't sound like a uke. It is tuned like a guitar. I recommend a tenor because your fingers will fit the frets better and be easier to play. If you have a large music store in your area go check out the different size ukes and guitars.

Do a search on YouTube of a song you would like to learn to play. Doesn't matter which song it is, this will work for almost any song. Search something like "Stand By Me ukulele lesson" and watch it. Then do a search on "Stand By Me guitar lesson" and watch it to compare the differences in playing.

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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2019, 09:59:29 AM »
I am in the midst of learning music theory. 
start with doing a web search for Music theory classes.
There are a number of them. The one I am taking is from udemy.com
Look for special prices and such, because there are a number of very expensive courses.

Here is one I found recently, though, that looks promising, and the price is right. https://www.musictheory.net/lessons
Excellent resource. Remember you can never be too rich, too beautiful, have too much memory of know to much music theory. You do not need to spend money to learn an instrument.

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2019, 11:02:23 AM »
Hopefully, Russ (8muddypaws) will jump into the conversation and add his guitar playing and teaching experience.

 I'm not a serious player, nor am I in any way skilled at playing, so I make my simple comments with all due respect to the experts. IMHO how you approach this depends on what you expect to be able to do down the road.

I started playing ukulele before adding (not moving to) guitar and banjo. My initial ukulele lessons essentially taught chord shapes, strumming and switching between chords. Playing only chords (on guitar or ukulele), the melody comes from your mouth i.e. you or someone else sings. Recent vocal challenges aside, I've sung a capella all my life, and strumming on a uke or guitar allowed me to accompany myself. Knowing how to play just 4 chords will allow you to play many hundreds of songs by merely changing the strum and the beat. This is illustrated by the Australian rock comedy group Axis Of Awesome (heads up - there's a small amount of profanity in their spoken comments).

If you decide to start with a uke with the intention of later switching to guitar, I'd suggest you buy a baritone ukulele; It's tuned like the four musically-highest strings on a guitar, which would make the transition somewhat easier; The chord shapes on a guitar are the same, with the addition of the two additional strings . The description of the uke you looked at on amazon mentions G-C-E-A tuning, whereas a baritone would be tuned D-G-B-E and a guitar is usually tuned E-A-D-G-B-E.

Picking a melody is a whole different ballgame. I really have a tough time picking, partly because of what I believe is a dexterity issue.

I'd forgotten what little music theory I learned at school (you'll see/hear me say I didn't take music theory), but have re-visited that subject a couple of times in retirement. It has done little to nothing for my ability to play and switch between chords. Yes, it helps to understand the formation of chords (i.e. which notes are included in a chord), but there are countless online resources to help with the fingering without needing to know which notes you're strumming in the chord.

One thing that helped me (maybe a tiny bit) was that I bought a keyboard years before thinking of a uke or guitar. I'll occasionally hop over to the keyboard to look at/listen to the composition of a chord. But this is so rare. OTOH if you decided to do this, there are "rollup" keyboards available that take up little storage space.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2019, 11:03:51 AM »
There are four basic uke sizes. Soprano, the tiny one most people think of when they think of a uke. Concert, slightly larger than a soprano. Tenor, slightly larger than a concert. And a baritone. A baritone isn't really a uke it is a small guitar. It is not tuned like a uke and doesn't sound like a uke. It is tuned like a guitar. I recommend a tenor because your fingers will fit the frets better and be easier to play. If you have a large music store in your area go check out the different size ukes and guitars.

Unfortunately I don't have a large anything nearby  :-\

I was curious about the ukulele size thing and found this. One of the things that I noted was some opinions that because the baritone is tuned like a guitar that could be an advantage  for those eventually transitioning to the guitar. In another comment someone opined that the smaller ukes were harder to play. I guess it depends on the size of your hands. I understand and appreciate your experience and well considered advice but given the similarities of the baritone and guitar, and that it sounds guitar-like, it seems like that might be worth considering. Is your tenor advice like "you really really need to get a tenor" or more like "a tenor would be somewhat easier but even a baritone would be a good way to start vs a guitar"??

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2019, 11:08:44 AM »
If you decide to start with a uke with the intention of later switching to guitar, I'd suggest you buy a baritone ukulele; It's tuned like the four musically-highest strings on a guitar, which would make the transition somewhat easier; The chord shapes on a guitar are the same, with the addition of the two additional strings . The description of the uke you looked at on amazon mentions G-C-E-A tuning, whereas a baritone would be tuned D-G-B-E and a guitar is usually tuned E-A-D-G-B-E.

Thanks for weighing in Tom, I think we were both typing together. This was my thought too but I appreciate Tom's advice to make this as easy as possible. Lots of food for thought
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2019, 11:12:29 AM »
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smaller ukes were harder to play. I guess it depends on the size of your hands.
For me, it was (initially) the length of my forearm. I first bought a soprano, and found it difficult/awkward because my forearm was "too long", and soon changed to concert and tenor sizes. We've found in our beginners classes that folks were initially being told to buy sopranos, but we've changed that advice to buy concert size.
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2019, 11:18:03 AM »
Scott, FWIW I've found that buying instruments on a budget is not worth it in the long run. I don't have very expensive instruments, but have what I believe are decent quality, rather than starter/beginner instruments. I prefer not to get into a 'mine is better than yours' discussion, but feel free to let me know if you'd like me to share via PM what I have and why I bought/like (or dislike) them.
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2019, 11:35:30 AM »
Unfortunately I don't have a large anything nearby  :-\

I was curious about the ukulele size thing and found this. One of the things that I noted was some opinions that because the baritone is tuned like a guitar that could be an advantage  for those eventually transitioning to the guitar. In another comment someone opined that the smaller ukes were harder to play. I guess it depends on the size of your hands. I understand and appreciate your experience and well considered advice but given the similarities of the baritone and guitar, and that it sounds guitar-like, it seems like that might be worth considering. Is your tenor advice like "you really really need to get a tenor" or more like "a tenor would be somewhat easier but even a baritone would be a good way to start vs a guitar"??

Thanks again.
No my advice is to find a music store and play a bunch of different ones to see what fits you best. It really depends on the size of your hands. All the opinions in the article are valid opinions. A tenor would be easier but even a baritone would be a great way to start since it has plastic strings and will not hurt your hands as much.

But it really boils down to how much time you wish to devote. If you only want to play a few minutes a week then a tenor would be much better. If you plan on playing a lot and then switching to guitar a baritone would be better. But you won't really know the answers to these questions until you buy one and start playing. The big advantage to cheaper instruments is that it is easier to buy an second and a third one and then let the first one sit. And just about everyone that plays a while ends up with several.

As an alternative you could buy several from Amazon and you have 30 days to send it back. Order a couple and keep the one you like.

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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2019, 11:48:10 AM »
Like Tom, I think you need to 'play' some instruments to see which feels and sounds 'better' to you. Learn a couple of chord shapes (copy a few from a chord chart) and take along with you to the store. Hadn't thought of the amazon suggestion, and not sure I'd openly promote it.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2019, 12:32:44 PM »
I feel that buying your first instrument is a lot like buying your first RV. You know what you want but you don't know exactly which one and which style you want. The only way you will know is to get one and try it. This is why I always recommend to both that you start off inexpensive and then you can easily trade up once you get a better idea of what you want. A more expensive instrument is not going to be easier for a beginner to play and it won't sound better to you. The differences are too subtle. As you gain experience you will discover differences.

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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2019, 02:52:48 PM »
Iím glad somebody brought this subject up. I was considering taking up guitar but after reading here I think I will try piano. I hand cancer in my left hand and arthritis in my right so maybe guitar would not be a good fit.
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2019, 03:35:08 PM »
Iím glad somebody brought this subject up. I was considering taking up guitar but after reading here I think I will try piano. I hand cancer in my left hand and arthritis in my right so maybe guitar would not be a good fit.
You didn't ask but I will mention it anyway. The small synthesizers are a great inexpensive way to start such as this one;

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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2019, 03:53:28 PM »
One caveat for first time ukulele and guitar buyers - it can become an addiction  :( My collection has grown to 10 ukes (including a banjo ukulele and an 8-string uke), 5 guitars (including a 12-string), and a plectrum banjo  :-[ Oh, and 3 keyboards (one in each location where we spend a lot of time).

Folks with limited space might consider buying a 3/4 or 7/8 guitar. When I first started playing guitar I was having shoulder issues, and a full size guitar was tough to play. I bought a 3/4 size guitar and found it much easier on my shoulders. It was also easy to transition to a full size guitar, because I was already playing a guitar, just a "small" one. Along the way, I upgraded from a 3/4 size to 7/8 size guitar, primarily for improved sound. Those two smaller guitars are made by Taylor, who make fabulous guitars - Baby Taylor and Taylor GS-Mini.

I have no plans to buy a sitar, although a mandolin is a possibility.
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2019, 03:59:04 PM »
I have changed my mind on the sitar. Too complicated.

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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2019, 04:38:17 PM »
I'll go along with both Toms on going into a local music store and trying things on for size. If you tell them what you have in mind, they can usually advise you fairly well (hard to do online), and you'll likely be much happier with your selection in the long run. That inexpensive Fender may be OK for a little while, but I discovered a long time ago that if I had a cheap instrument, I soon lost interest, while one that really sounded good (you don't have to start with a Martin, Guild or Taylor) helped me maintain interest.

I've noted several learning methods mentioned here, but thought I'd throw in what I've done (it suits me, but I'm far, far from being a musician). I bought a Mel Bay guitar instruction book (this was LONG before YouTube) and learned to play several chords, with a lot of practice time being spent just switching from one chord to another, switching from C to F to G to A to F to G to C to... all possible combinations. Once I could do that, I tried some of the songs in the Mel Bay book. With additional songs over the years I've also picked up many more chords and a number of strumming/right hand styles, too.

Of course this essentially makes me a "song learner" as described above by Tom S. but it has worked OK for me most of the time. Most of the time...occasionally I wish I'd gone the more difficult route, but I suspect I'd not have devoted enough time and effort, therefore would have dropped it completely.
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2019, 05:14:10 PM »
I'm a "song learner" too, and IMHO there's nowt wrong with that. I spend 2 hours every Tuesday night learning/practicing songs with 50-60 other uke players, most of whom have never learned music theory. Like me, they heard "that sound", and decided they'd like to be able to play too.

I second Larry's comment that switching between chords is key (no pun) to being able to play songs, along with the ability to strum on the beat, whatever the tempo might be for a given song. Learning/playing different strums is more of a challenge for me but, once I learn a different strum, it certainly adds to the sound. A simple example might be a calypso strum, on an appropriate song of course.

For adventurous strummers, try emulating Englishman George Formby playing his fan strum or split strum on a banjo ukulele.
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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2019, 05:16:13 PM »
For the record I never said that just learning songs was wrong. I just mentioned there are two ways to learn and most people just learn songs and don't learn music theory. Nothing wrong with that. That is how the Beatles started.

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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2019, 05:20:19 PM »
most people just learn songs and don't learn music theory. Nothing wrong with that. That is how the Beatles started.


If I heard/read correctly, Phil Collins couldn't read music
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2019, 05:41:08 PM »
You didn't ask but I will mention it anyway. The small synthesizers are a great inexpensive way to start such as this one;

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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2019, 05:54:31 PM »
Phil Collins is definitely back touring but he stopped playing drums and piano ten years ago due to have some vertebra operations. Recently he fell and now walks with a cane.

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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2019, 06:03:39 PM »
Thatís what I was thinking about. Doesnít take much room and easily transported.
Then go for Gator, you are never too old and it is dirt cheap. Tons of free lessons on YouTube and the net. Do a search on beginning piano lessons.

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« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2019, 06:18:58 PM »
For the record I never said that just learning songs was wrong. I just mentioned there are two ways to learn and most people just learn songs and don't learn music theory. Nothing wrong with that. That is how the Beatles started.
True -- I was just clarifying which I am. Thanks for an excellent description I could use.
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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2019, 06:21:07 PM »
To be clear I started just learning songs. A few years late I was frustrated with my progress so I started taking music classes at college. I took piano, guitar, violin and viola.

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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2019, 06:49:26 PM »
I've always been able to reproduce a tune vocally after hearing it. When I joined a barbershop chorus 20 or so years ago, it frustrated me to see some folks pick up a music score and 'sing the notes on the paper'. This caused me to buy my first keyboard, take keyboard lessons, and teach myself to read music.

The (my) objective was to correlate what I saw on a score with what was coming out of my mouth. After a few (?) years, I was no closer to being able to do this, so I quit trying. I can read a music score, understand some music theory, but still sing what I hear.

I don't use music theory to create or learn a chord, but my ears immediately tell me if I played a correct chord or hit a clunker.

Meanwhile, from my message in another topic:


Reminds me of arriving in Hong Kong on one of my multi-country hops, checking into the hotel at 10pm. I dragged my colleague down to the bar to unwind from the travel, and we were entertained by 3 Filipinos, 2 female singers and a male keyboard player. I noticed the girls, both excellent singers, reading from large hard-covered ledger books. During their break, the 3 entertainers joined us at the table, and I just had to ask if I could see the contents of one of the books that they were literally clutching tight. The lyrics of very song were handwritten phonetically, and they explained they wrote them while listening to songs on the radio, and they just wrote down what they heard.


What I take away from all the above is that we all learn in different ways, and some/many of us don't have the talents and knowledge of most musicians.
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I remember when I was a sophomore in high school. I played drums in a band with two guitar players. One night we went to the movie theater together to see a film that was about an hour of the latest English groups each playing one of the biggest hits. But no Beatles. They had the Zombies, the Honeycombs and the Animals among others. The Animals played House of the Rising Sun and we all wanted to learn how to play it. We didn't have a pad and pen with us so as the song played we shouted out the chords. Am, C, D, F, Am, C, E. We repeated it all the way home. But I was very frustrated since I could not pick it fast enough. I did not realize at the time that it was two guitars that sounded like one.

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... as the song played we shouted out the chords. Am, C, D, F, Am, C, E.

That's something I have no clue how to do. What's more, when I play (aka strum) a tune on a uke or guitar, my ears tell me a chord change is coming, but I have no clue which chord without looking at a lead sheet. I've learned to play some tunes from memory, but it took me strumming each chord until my ears told me it wasn't a clunker, then on to the next chord.

The only improvement on this "learning method" is if I play a known chord progression (e.g. C-Am-F-G7 or I-vi-IV-V). Even then, a progression can change part way through (e.g. for a bridge or a refrain), and I'm back to relying on my ears to detect the clunkers  :(
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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2019, 09:32:27 PM »
Signing (not singing) a song ...

This special group of kids performed a unique rendition of the Welsh national anthem:

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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2019, 11:22:32 PM »
Sorry for arriving to this so late.  I was playing a celebration of life gig yesterday.

I started out with a $20 Sears Silvertone.  It was an instrument of torture to play.  I was young & stupid enough to buy a second Silvertone.

Guitars:  cheap ones are generally harder on your hands and do not sound as good.  Simple answer:  expect to pay more than you expected.   ;D  If you do buy an inexpensive one have the shop do a setup.  If you buy an expensive one too!  I bought a $700+ Taylor GS Mini and had to spend an additional $50-$75 to have it set up the way I wanted.

Guitar Brand:  Iím partial to Taylor but I was perfectly happy with a Takamine.  I eventually had two of them.  I still have a Yamaha classical that I bought more than 35 years ago. 

Think about getting a classical guitar.  Nylon strings are easier on the fingers and it will have a wider neck.

Theory:  the problem is that most people find learning theory to be just plain boring.  Especially on the guitar.  It can be completely overwhelming.  Learning songs is easier and more gratifying.  Especially if you sing and want to accompany yourself.

There are so many online teachers!  Itís a jungle out there.  Iíve watched a bunch of videos produced by ĎSteve Steiní.  He seems to have struck a good balance between teaching theory and teaching songs.  His website is www.guitarzoom.com but I suggest you watch some of his lessons on YouTube first.

Another good one is www.guitarcontrol.com

Of the two I prefer Guitarzoom.  I just like his style more.

I highly recommend that you look around for a live teacher to get you started.  I didnít and I suffered because of it.  Check craigslist, music stores, even adult Ed at high schools and colleges.

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« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2019, 03:10:54 AM »
That's something I have no clue how to do. What's more, when I play (aka strum) a tune on a uke or guitar, my ears tell me a chord change is coming, but I have no clue which chord without looking at a lead sheet. I've learned to play some tunes from memory, but it took me strumming each chord until my ears told me it wasn't a clunker, then on to the next chord.

The only improvement on this "learning method" is if I play a known chord progression (e.g. C-Am-F-G7 or I-vi-IV-V). Even then, a progression can change part way through (e.g. for a bridge or a refrain), and I'm back to relying on my ears to detect the clunkers  :(
We were able to see the guitar players hands and we were shouting out the chords we saw, not heard. That is one thing a lot of guitar players do is study other guitar players hands to see how they are getting the sounds they get. Especially someone like Jimi Hendrix.

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We were able to see the guitar players hands and we were shouting out the chords we saw, not heard.

That I know how to do, and I'll occasionally look at our Maestro's left hand at uke practice, but it's not always possible to see what's going on. I'll sometimes mentally extrapolate from the fingers I can see, and think he must be playing a 'x' chord. OTOH if he's switching fast, I can't process it fast enough.
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« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2019, 10:42:46 AM »
Well HOTRS is a five minute song and the photography was very unimaginative. Not the fast cutting crap you see today and there were three of us so we were able to figure it out. I am glad we did since it is such a cool song and so much fun to play. I have tried it on the organ and failed miserably. I am going to have to get serious about that.

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« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2019, 12:12:13 PM »
This is a wonderful thread.
Like so many other high-schoolers of the '60s I bought a guitar and tried to learn informally how to play it, with a Mel Bay book and an LP titled "Play Guitar With the Ventures". I had no formal music training, and neither time nor money for lessons. Of course I maxed out at about a dozen songs before I dropped it for other interests, but I have some nice memories of a group of us hanging out in the evenings, trying (and for the most part failing) to figure out how to make that great music.
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« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2019, 12:20:57 PM »
This is a wonderful thread.
Like so many other high-schoolers of the '60s I bought a guitar and tried to learn informally how to play it, with a Mel Bay book and an LP titled "Play Guitar With the Ventures". I had no formal music training, and neither time nor money for lessons. Of course I maxed out at about a dozen songs before I dropped it for other interests, but I have some nice memories of a group of us hanging out in the evenings, trying (and for the most part failing) to figure out how to make that great music.
I had that record in the 60s. I did manage to learn both the rhythm and lead parts to Walk Don't
Run. It was easy. Later I found out why it was easy. They dumbed down the lead part so even a hack like me could play it. The last band I was in I suggested that we do the song and every one in the group loved it. I didn't even have to relearn it since it was so easy to play the way it was dumbed down. The best part was the rhythm guitar. It starts Am-G-F-E over and over. After learning it I found out I was playing it wrong. It was barre chords so I relearned it and in the process learned barre chords. I was thankful for that forever more.

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« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2019, 12:34:25 PM »
Well HOTRS is a five minute song


it is such a cool song and so much fun to play.


HOTRS?  ???
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I remember when I was a sophomore in high school. I played drums in a band with two guitar players. One night we went to the movie theater together to see a film that was about an hour of the latest English groups each playing one of the biggest hits. But no Beatles. They had the Zombies, the Honeycombs and the Animals among others. The Animals played House of the Rising Sun and we all wanted to learn how to play it. We didn't have a pad and pen with us so as the song played we shouted out the chords. Am, C, D, F, Am, C, E. We repeated it all the way home. But I was very frustrated since I could not pick it fast enough. I did not realize at the time that it was two guitars that sounded like one.

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OK, I get it. I ran out of room for additional acronyms about 10 years ago. One comes in, one's gotta go
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« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2019, 06:32:03 PM »
HOTRS was the very first song I ever played in a coffee house.  I played it at rip tempo Ďcause I was so nervous.  I probably played it in less than 2 minutes. 

Want long songs?  Try some Harry Chapin.  Sniper.  The Rock Is Gonna Fall On Us.

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« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2019, 06:58:28 PM »
Another memorable, and easy to learn/play song, was "Gloria" by Them.  Three chords, none barred. 
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« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2019, 07:23:21 PM »
Another memorable, and easy to learn/play song, was "Gloria" by Them.  Three chords, none barred. 
No matter how bad the band, kids always danced to it.
That was the very first song I learned in 1965 while it was still a hit. I must have played EDA about ten million times in my lifetime. The last band I was in we played it. I loved singing it because of the call and response. That is way too cool. One time I adlibbed right after the line 'then she comes to my room' I added 'she takes out her false teeth and gums me to death'. Killed the band. If you want to torture yourself here is a clip of the clean version.

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« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2019, 07:40:00 PM »
Three chords, none barred. 


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« Reply #50 on: October 21, 2019, 08:08:39 PM »
It was barre chords so I relearned it and in the process learned barre chords. I was thankful for that forever more.
Barre chords are made by firmly placing the index finger across all six strings on a single fret, like a "bar,"  while remaining fingers press strings on other frets higher than the barre.  Barre chords require hand strength and agility which takes plenty of practice to develop.  The player can make the same chord at more than one place on the guitar's neck.
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« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2019, 09:51:30 PM »
Barre chords are easier for me than playing a C major in first position.  That chord played for any length of time really hurts because 40 something years ago I broke all 4 metacarpal bones in my left hand.  Quite often I will play it for a few seconds and then switch to an alternative, my favorites being 332033  (Looks like a G, sounds like a C) or an A chord shape barred on the third fret, 335553.  I thought I would never be able to play again after the accident.  The first couple of years after weíre quite painful.  I adapted my Ďstyleí to fit my limitations in that area.

This video is about soloing using the CAGED system but he does a good job explaining how chords work up the neck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qp26KcDrGw. If you get nothing else out of it admire the see through fingers.   8)

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« Reply #52 on: October 22, 2019, 03:07:51 AM »

Barred?
In the 70s I fell in love with playing along to China Grove which uses almost all barred chords including the hard to play 7th position E, which is 079997. I usually played it 779997. I got very good at the song but I could never even come close to playing the lead. I noticed most of the tutorials for the song play it simpler than I did. They used power chords for the E - 079900. The way I play the chord is with two fingers. My index barres the 7th fret and my ring finger barres the 9th fret D G B strings.

https://youtu.be/JU-pzSP0DTY

It is outrageously fun to play.
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I came to the conclusion some time ago that some of this stuff is anatomically impossible for me  >:(
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« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2019, 02:35:43 PM »
I came to the conclusion some time ago that some of this stuff is anatomically impossible for me  >:(
Tom - every musician has limits, things that other people do with ease that you could never do. I watch Joe Satriani with my jaw on the ground. I can do nothing he does. Watch just the first minute of this tutorial.

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Even watching his subsequent breakdown, I'm saying to myself "not in this lifetime"  :(
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« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2019, 11:11:17 PM »
limits?  Todayís limits are tomorrowís milestones. 

Today I reached a limit and wasnít able to create a drum and bass track.  I gave up after about 45 minutes.  After cooling down, having dinner and walking the dogs I started all over and was able to build them both in about an hour.  While watching TV.

My friend Larry, the one who toured with ELO and a bunch of other big name acts, says being a guitarist is like being a gunslinger.  Thereís always going to be a faster gun coming along.  There are lots of faster guns from my vantage point.

Tom S.  Play that high E as 0-7-9-9-9-12, use your pinky on the 12th fret.  Or try 0-7-9-9-12-12 to add a slightly different flavor.  When everybody else is playing 0-2-2-1-0-0 it adds a something to the mix.

I like weird chords.  Itís gotten me booted out of a couple of bluegrass groups.   ::)
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Tom S.  Play that high E as 0-7-9-9-9-12, use your pinky on the 12th fret.  Or try 0-7-9-9-12-12 to add a slightly different flavor.  When everybody else is playing 0-2-2-1-0-0 it adds a something to the mix.
My pinky won't reach the 12th fret. It is pretty uncoordinated. For example I have never been able to play the Chuck Berry power chord with the pinky going on and off two frets up. I have pretty small hands and my fingers are pretty fat.

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« Reply #58 on: October 23, 2019, 06:57:02 AM »
I personally would not recommend buying a uke first. if your not the type that likes it? you will not stay interested very long. I play professionally. I have been playing all my life. but as much as I know some musicians don't like, I did not take lessons, or music theory. my passion for playing was enough for me to stay involved. it doesn't matter if you plan on being great or not, only that you get satisfaction from it. buy yourself an acoustic. sit around friends or campers that play, learn a little here and a little there. you will find over time you have met new friends and learned how to play guitar to any extent. just my two cents.

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« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2019, 09:05:13 AM »
My pinky won't reach the 12th fret. It is pretty uncoordinated. For example I have never been able to play the Chuck Berry power chord with the pinky going on and off two frets up. I have pretty small hands and my fingers are pretty fat.

Ar Ar Ar.  Somebody once commented that my left hand looks like some sort of fat little spider.  I can identify with that.  The broken bones left me with no visible knuckles.

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« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2019, 09:16:09 AM »
My current favorite guitarist is Joe Satriani. He spreads his fingers so far it looks like he had them  surgically redesigned or he comes from a different planet. ???

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« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2019, 02:44:23 PM »
Well I was practicing guitar today and I decided to try Russ's suggestion. I failed miserably so I made a quick and dirty clip to show just how little my fingers can stretch. I can put my pinky on the 10th fret and make it an E7. I can barely get it on the 11th fret but it doesn't sound right and I can make it to the 12th fret just barely but then my middle finger is pressing down on the low E string. I haven't played it in years so I am rather sloppy and I did not spend a lot of time trying to dial in the tone. Notice on my fretting hand I have a rather large bump on the knuckle of the ring finger. I don't know where it came from but my guess is from playing China Grove too many times. Don't laugh too hard.

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« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2019, 05:47:08 AM »


https://www.amazon.com/Caramel-Electric-Ukulele-Professional-Beginner/dp/B07R2KHSMH/ref=sr_1_12?keywords=tenor+ukulele+with+tuner+built+in&qid=1571577334&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-12

Then after you have been playing the ukulele for a year and have built up some finger strength you can buy a]

Can you get ukuleles with auto tuners?  I am so glad you posted this. I want to get one. Have tried for years to learn guitar and you are right...hurts too bad for me to commit!
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Re: Best way to learn guitar for beginners
« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2019, 06:09:17 AM »

https://www.amazon.com/Caramel-Electric-Ukulele-Professional-Beginner/dp/B07R2KHSMH/ref=sr_1_12?keywords=tenor+ukulele+with+tuner+built+in&qid=1571577334&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-12

Then after you have been playing the ukulele for a year and have built up some finger strength you can buy a
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The uke in this message has a built in tuner. Yes there are lots of ukes with tuners built in. Do a search at Amazon for 'tenor ukulele with electronics' and pick the one you like the best and fits your budget. You have to be careful when looking at Amazon search results because there will be sponsored results might not have a tuner.

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« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2019, 09:23:14 AM »
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Can you get ukuleles with auto tuners?


I assume you know this from playing guitar ... they're not 'auto tuners'; They merely tell you if the string you're plucking is tuned too high or too low, and you make the adjustment manually, just as you would with a clip-on tuner. A few of my instruments have built-in tuners, but I still use the same clip-on tuner with them all.

Be aware that you're paying extra for the electronics that go with a built-in tuner, and they usually have a pre-amplifier in the same set of electronics. Unless you need to amplify the sound via an external amplifier, the electronics is unnecessary additional cost. OTOH a good clip-on tuner  costs a few $$, so if you only plan to own one instrument, it's almost a wash.
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« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2019, 09:50:30 AM »
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Actually they do make auto tuned guitars and auto tuners.


But that's not what one would be getting in a $69 ukulele.
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« Reply #68 on: October 24, 2019, 09:53:35 AM »
But that's not what one would be getting in a $69 ukulele.
Not today but I bet it will be in ten years.

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« Reply #69 on: October 24, 2019, 10:00:39 AM »
I don't see the need to amplify a ukulele for personal or family use. Someone playing a gig might need it, but a number of pro performers prefer to use a stand-mounted mic'. We amplify only the solo mic's in the band when we're performing in a show.

On a personal note, a few of my instruments have built-in pre-amps/tuners, and one has an add-on (adhesive/magnetic) pickup. But my strumming style is such that I hit the top of the uke at the end of a (down) strum, and that gets picked up and amplified, so I've rarely used amplification.
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... I bet it will be in ten years.


Peggyy doesn't want to wait 10 years  ;)
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« Reply #71 on: October 24, 2019, 12:50:50 PM »
I have asked for one for my birthday in november.  Or maybe for Christmas!  I like the one on Amazon. May get that one.  It would be great to take along camping.  To play inside the camper so I am not distubing the peace of course.  I took violin lessons a few years back and the practicing was painful to the ears.  Just ask my hubby.  Lol  i finally gave it up. 
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« Reply #72 on: October 24, 2019, 01:13:01 PM »
I have asked for one for my birthday in november.  Or maybe for Christmas!  I like the one on Amazon. May get that one.  It would be great to take along camping.  To play inside the camper so I am not distubing the peace of course.  I took violin lessons a few years back and the practicing was painful to the ears.  Just ask my hubby.  Lol  i finally gave it up.
Trust me, the ukulele is 100 times easier than the violin. You live 30 miles from me and if you want you can come by and get free lessons. Bring your hubby if you would be nervous. You also live ten miles from the Winter Park Public Library where we hold our meetups on the second Saturday of each month. You can come by and watch us if you don't have a uke and some one will lend you one or if you buy one bring it and we can get you started. The first Saturday in December we always participate in the Winter Park Christmas Parade.

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« Reply #73 on: October 24, 2019, 02:20:37 PM »
On another personal note ... I've seen so many folks buy an inexpensive ukulele partly because "it looks nice", only to later find out that it was a mistake. I've even had someone buy a ukulele in Hawaii and bring it home as a gift for me, saying "I liked the look of it", but it turned out to be a piece of junk. IMHO aesthetics should not be one of the main/first criteria for buying an instrument. This doesn't mean that good looks are bad, or that some entry level instruments shouldn't be purchased. But you get what you pay for.

Meanwhile, an offer of free hands-on lessons can't be beat, and playing with other uke players will enhance the experience and help improve individual playing. Newcomers to our band go through individual beginner classes with our Music Director, then when I welcome them to the main band I tell them that further learning will occur at our weekly practices.
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« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2019, 05:27:44 AM »
Trust me, the ukulele is 100 times easier than the violin. You live 30 miles from me and if you want you can come by and get free lessons. Bring your hubby if you would be nervous. You also live ten miles from the Winter Park Public Library where we hold our meetups on the second Saturday of each month. You can come by and watch us

Thats a very generous offer! Thank you!  I might just take you up on that sometime!
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« Reply #75 on: October 25, 2019, 06:18:42 AM »
Looks like they come in different sizes and tenor or soorano.  Which is best for a beginner?
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« Reply #76 on: October 25, 2019, 06:27:03 AM »
Looks like they come in different sizes and tenor or soorano.  Which is best for a beginner?
There are four basic sizes for ukuleles. Soprano, concert, tenor and baritone. Soprano is a very small uke that is what comes to mind when people think of ukuleles. Concert is slightly larger, tenor larger yet and baritone even larger. A baritone is actually a small guitar and not a uke as it is tuned like a guitar and not a uke. The proper size for you is the one that fits your hands the best. For most adults that would be a tenor. Best bet is to visit a Sam Ash or a Guitar Center in Orlando. Both have a collection of ukes on display and there is no problem playing any of them. A photo is worth a thousand words so here is a good photo.

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« Reply #77 on: November 11, 2019, 09:46:03 PM »
My daughter found a teacher on upwork, it's cheaper and she stays home, she likes his lessons!

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Re: Best way to learn guitar for beginners
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2019, 08:56:16 AM »
I, too, am interested in learning how to play guitar. I was considering buying Rocksmith to see if I can play it on my Surface Pro. Then I can learn anywhere in a fun way.

Rocksmith is a video game similar to Guitar Hero, but it uses any real guitar with a 1/4" audio jack. Supposedly, it adjusts to your skill level to improve how you play overall.
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« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2019, 08:58:34 AM »
I, too, am interested in learning how to play guitar. I was considering buying Rocksmith to see if I can play it on my Surface Pro. Then I can learn anywhere in a fun way.

Rocksmith is a video game similar to Guitar Hero, but it uses any real guitar with a 1/4" audio jack. Supposedly, it adjusts to your skill level to improve how you play overall.
Go for it. Sounds like a blast. I have Rock Band Beatles and it is fantastic.

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« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2019, 05:27:31 PM »
One thing I might add on learning guitar. I have been playing for close to 40 years. There is no secret way, or magic bullet. It takes thousands of hours to learn to play at any decent level. Some people think they can learn in six months or a year. This is not realistic. I have taught many people to play guitar. I start them on a five year plan. Once they reach five years, they say, "ok I made five years, whats next". I then tell them, "you are now on the life time plan". Most people quit once they realise it takes considerable time and dedication. You never stop learning. Even Eric Clapton still takes guitar lessons. As long as you get enjoyment out of it, you have reached your goal. I will never stop playing, and still play a lot. I have played professionally at different times in my life, but in my opinion, still have a lot to learn. You are never alone if you play guitar.
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« Reply #81 on: November 12, 2019, 06:33:49 PM »
Thanks muskoka guy, and very well said. Regrettably, those of us - like me - who started late in life don't have "a lifetime" to practice  :(
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