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Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« on: November 21, 2019, 10:01:55 AM »
We are moving our camper into a RV park to live in full time. The lot that we have purchased already has a deck with an enclosed "extra living space". Our issue is our heat exhaust will be in our enclosed area. Is there a safe, inexpensive way to reroute the exhaust so we can use both the heat and the enclosed area? We have a child and want this to be the safest as possible.

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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2019, 10:57:38 AM »
There's no good way to do what you're asking. Adding pipe to the exhaust would be outside the fan's design envelope. It might be OK, it might not. Simply, the furnace is not designed to operate with an extended exhaust stack, any mods you make to it would be just a guess.


And of course, leaving it unmodified so it exhausts into a living area is obviously not an option either. So unfortunately don't have an answer for you
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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2019, 12:50:52 PM »
There's no good way to do what you're asking. Adding pipe to the exhaust would be outside the fan's design envelope. It might be OK, it might not. Simply, the furnace is not designed to operate with an extended exhaust stack, any mods you make to it would be just a guess.


And of course, leaving it unmodified so it exhausts into a living area is obviously not an option either. So unfortunately don't have an answer for you

X's 2 It's just not a safe idea.

Another idea would be to use electric heaters instead of gas.
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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2019, 12:52:29 PM »
One idea to consider is living in Florida in the wintertime.

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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2019, 12:57:30 PM »
There's no good way to do what you're asking. Adding pipe to the exhaust would be outside the fan's design envelope. It might be OK, it might not. Simply, the furnace is not designed to operate with and extended exhaust stack, any mods you make to it would be just a guess.


And of course, leaving it unmodified so it exhausts into a living area is obviously not an option either. So unfortunately don't have an answer for you

This is my thought as well, although it was not indicated what is meant by "extra living space", for example is it a permanent structure with hard roof and sides in which case I see no viable solution, unless there are windows or vents that can be opened.  In such a case you would have the option of opening the windows and vents.  On the other hand if the "extra living space" consists of a removable structure, you would have the option of taking it down during the heating season or at least leaving windows, doors etc. open.
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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2019, 01:03:19 PM »
X's 2 It's just not a safe idea.

Another idea would be to use electric heaters instead of gas.

This is what we are currently doing and seems to be working fine. Just thought we would explore the option. Thank you!

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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2019, 01:06:19 PM »
This is my thought as well, although it was not indicated what is meant by "extra living space", for example is it a permanent structure with hard roof and sides in which case I see no viable solution, unless there are windows or vents that can be opened.  In such a case you would have the option of opening the windows and vents.  On the other hand if the "extra living space" consists of a removable structure, you would have the option of taking it down during the heating season or at least leaving windows, doors etc. open.

The extra living space is a permanent structure with a hard roof and sides, but it does have windows that can be opened.

Thank you for the advice!

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2019, 02:44:54 PM »
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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2019, 09:18:05 AM »
I'd try installing a regular stove pipe and connecting it to the exaust. May still need a window cracked for make up air and no guarantee that the draft won't be unbalanced and impact heater operation but it should be safe enough so long as the exaust connection is secure. It shouldn't be terribly expensive to try.

Considering the usual vagaries of wind on the inlet in normal operation, I'd think you have a good chance it will work.

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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2019, 09:49:46 AM »
I'd try installing a regular stove pipe and connecting it to the exaust. May still need a window cracked for make up air and no guarantee that the draft won't be unbalanced and impact heater operation but it should be safe enough so long as the exaust connection is secure. It shouldn't be terribly expensive to try.

Considering the usual vagaries of wind on the inlet in normal operation, I'd think you have a good chance it will work.

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It might, and in theory a larger stove pipe shouldn't offer additional back pressure. I would be sure and install a CO (carbon monoxide) detector in that living space if you choose to try this
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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2019, 10:18:17 AM »
I'd try installing a regular stove pipe and connecting it to the exaust. May still need a window cracked for make up air and no guarantee that the draft won't be unbalanced and impact heater operation but it should be safe enough so long as the exaust connection is secure. It shouldn't be terribly expensive to try.

Considering the usual vagaries of wind on the inlet in normal operation, I'd think you have a good chance it will work.

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I would install a CO2 detector in the addition if you decide to give this a try.

I'm not sure that stove pipe will work but I would take safety precautions.

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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2019, 10:25:10 AM »
It might, and in theory a larger stove pipe shouldn't offer additional back pressure. I would be sure and install a CO (carbon monoxide) detector in that living space if you choose to try this
I would install a CO2 detector in the addition if you decide to give this a try.
I'm not sure that stove pipe will work but I would take safety precautions.

There seems to be an echo in here  ;) ;D
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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2019, 10:54:04 AM »
There seems to be an echo in here  ;) ;D

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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2019, 11:26:49 AM »
You know what they say....If you can find it in the internet 7 times then it must be true... ;D

I think for some it's just one other time...  ::)
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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2019, 07:02:47 PM »
You lose this time Gizmo 100. The bad stuff is CO - Carbon monoxide, not  CO2- Carbon dioxide.
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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2019, 07:11:29 PM »
You lose this time Gizmo 100. The bad stuff is CO - Carbon monoxide, not  CO2- Carbon dioxide.


Ha. Didn't even notice that. Good catch!
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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2019, 07:40:37 PM »
You lose this time Gizmo 100. The bad stuff is CO - Carbon monoxide, not  CO2- Carbon dioxide.

I knew I should of checked that ......  ???

Of course if I can find it on the internet 6 more times then I could be right.  :D :D
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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2019, 07:48:36 PM »
Of course if I can find it on the internet 6 more times then I could be right.  :D :D


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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2019, 10:29:42 PM »

 Why not turn the RV around to put the exhaust on the other side.??>>>Dan
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2019, 02:22:18 PM »

 I guess my suggestion was too simple.>>>D
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Re: Full Time Living- Winter Heating Question
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2019, 04:59:33 PM »
I agree the extension might be a bad idea but... If you want to try you have two issues. REMOVING THE COVER may resolve one.. (The cross bar on the exhaust)  You need a decent seal between outlet and extension.

now.. Look at a "Genturi" generator exhaust extension... That's how I'd do it.. If I did it.

How do I do it?

I added heavy duty 15/20 amp outlets INSIDE the RV. each is fed with 12  ga wire bent around a well tightened screw, off a breaker that feeds it and only it.. (I do not trust the Uni-box outlets they use when building rv's)
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