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Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« on: March 27, 2020, 06:33:43 PM »
We are starting to see mandatory 2 week quarantine orders for interstate travelers, in this case it is anyone from Louisiana, or some other states arriving in Florida (it is less than a 3 hour drive from New Orleans to the Florida state line, more like 2 hours state line to state line across the narrow sections of coastal Mississippi and Alabama).  Penalty of 60 days in jail for not obeying.

See https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_3d4a07c2-706b-11ea-9d59-432041c0536c.html

If this trend continues it could really shut down travel around the country, imagine a coast to coast trip with a 2 week quarantine at each state you enter, we are starting to look at Oregon trail like speeds for a transcontinental trip.

p.s. note this order applies to everyone arriving from Louisiana, not just those from the hard hit New Orleans area.  So I guess I will not be going to my ex-wife's wedding in Florida next month, as I live on the west side of Louisiana almost to Texas (a 5 hour drive from New Orleans)
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2020, 09:47:55 PM »
...So I guess I will not be going to my ex-wife's wedding in Florida next month...
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2020, 11:29:56 PM »
Well it is her second wedding since we divorced 21 years ago, and I really was not considering going anyway.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 06:34:17 AM »
We are starting to see mandatory 2 week quarantine orders for interstate travelers, in this case it is anyone from Louisiana, or some other states arriving in Florida

So if you're traveling, just where are you supposed to "self quarantine"?  How are you suppose to get food?  or do laundry? In your vehicle?  I can't imagine that there are enough motels near major travel routes to accommodate people.  What about truck drivers and their deliveries?  What about service repair people like plumbers, electricians, etc.  I'll bet they won't be quarantined but they pose just as much risk for transmitting the virus as anyone. What about people who cross the state line for daily work?  Talk about over reaction!  To me, this is the most blatant political move I've heard about yet.  Staff to Governor "Governor, you need to do something to make people think you're keeping them safe"  "Yes, yes, we know Governor that infections are mainly being transmitted among family members and close friends, and not from people coming into the State, but this will play well with voters"-- It's all about appearances at this point and has little to do with any REAL impact on slowing the transmission.  My take on this of course.

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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2020, 07:33:57 AM »
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I can't imagine that there are enough motels near major travel routes to accommodate people.  What about truck drivers and their deliveries?  What about service repair people like plumbers, electricians, etc.

And, are they setting up border patrols on all the roads, tying up their police force?
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2020, 08:03:38 AM »
Who, other than folks on essential business, are out traveling around the country?
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2020, 08:52:09 AM »
Just read a FB post from a woman in Cocoa Beach, FL. A man asked her if she knew of any motels in the area with available rooms. He said they were from New York and there were 13 carloads in their caravan.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2020, 09:05:24 AM »
so we could in fact so interstate travel regulated and enforced.  Why I got the heck of Florida a week ago
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2020, 09:13:24 AM »
The order isn't real specific, but it says "people arriving from Louisiana", so not necessarily everyone who passes through Louisiana while enroute between two places.  It presumably would apply to Isaac's wedding trip, though.  Just how it gets handled remains to be seen.  I suspect we are going to see a lot of state border closings before this is over. Texas has already announced a similar quarantine for people coming from LA.


The order has already been effective in discouraging air travel from the NYC area to Florida.  Simply announcing that screening would take place at FL airports resulted in an immediate major drop in arrivals from there.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2020, 10:35:51 AM »
Thankfully so far the Texas order only applies to people arriving by plane to Texas from New Orleans or New York, not those driving.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2020, 10:40:55 AM »
The problem as I see it is that if this thing does not get under control soon, every state will have a hot spot, but by then all the inter-state travel restrictions will be in place and no one will dare take them down, even though they are not helping anything.  If you look at it already Florida as a whole has more cases than Louisiana, just no one central hot spot like New Orleans.

Current number of confirmed cases from the Johns Hopkins tracker 3198 Florida vs 2746 Louisiana
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2020, 10:52:52 AM »
We are lucky here in Delaware. Nobody wants to come here.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2020, 12:31:36 PM »
Who, other than folks on essential business, are out traveling around the country?

I expect there a number of folks like us where we've been on the road since mid December and are now working their way back home.

In our case, headed home to Upstate NY, we also were in NOLA and spent some time at Mardi Gras. I guess we would have been one of those stopped  entering the FL panhandle. Obviously, given the situation in NOLA, we were concerned and have more or less self quarantining for a few weeks now-- sticking pretty close to our RV, maintaining physical distancing when out for essentials, etc.

We'll be checking out of this last site Monday and making a "dash" for home. Stopping along the way to grab a bite to eat (in the coach) and gassing up.  When we do get home we'll feel pretty safe given we have a pretty spacious rural property with the nearest neighbor a half mile away.

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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2020, 01:09:21 PM »
Build that wall on all interstate borders. No immigrants allowed in flyover country.

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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2020, 01:14:40 PM »
> 13 carloads in their caravan.

  And that's why the quarantine is in place. Why should Florida accept people from "hot zones" and conversely why should anyone accept people from Florida?

  It's presumed that people coming to Florida are going somewhere in Florida, not just driving around aimlessly or living in their cars, so they're required to self-quarantine. Commercial traffic is exempt.

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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2020, 01:20:52 PM »
Thankfully so far the Texas order only applies to people arriving by plane to Texas from New Orleans or New York, not those driving.

Which by itself seems kind of stupid if they are not enforcing vehicle traffic from the heavily affected states, especially Louisiana being so close.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2020, 01:26:33 PM »
One has to assume they have somewhere to go, note the Florida governor's order also bans all new vacation house rentals.  These same sort of bans on rental of vacation properties is showing up all over the country.

As to who is traveling, my somewhat crazy (bi-polar) ex-brother in law is flying from Ohio to Houston, by way of changing planes in Orlando as I type this.  He is in a manic phase at the moment, and called to say he was in Florida a few minutes ago, he is on his way to Houston to pick up his car which he left at the airport lot there when he flew back to Ohio 2 months ago, with the intention then of only being there for a week or two, then moving back to Louisiana.

ps All of Louisiana is not New Orleans, I am in Louisiana less than 20 miles from the Texas state line, and less than 150 miles from Houston and New Orleans is on the far side of the Louisiana about 250 miles away.  To put it another way, driving time on Interstate from New Orleans to Houston is over 5 hours in the best of times.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2020, 04:09:22 PM »
Closing state borders to certain populations from other states is jousting at windmills. Every state has cases of Covid-19 and spreading rapidly by community transmission within the state. However, it is wise to require travelers to the state (not passing through) to self-isolate for 14 days. But, everyone except essential workers should be self isolating anyway.
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2020, 04:25:24 PM »
so we could in fact so interstate travel regulated and enforced.  Why I got the heck of Florida a week ago

My wife and I did the same a few days ago. The Illinois governor was threatening to close the borders and getting to Wisconsin from Florida without crossing the Illinois border is a longer drive. There was not much traffic on the roads other than trucks. There was little left to do in Florida anyway. We're self quarantining for a couple weeks just to be sure.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2020, 04:41:02 PM »
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ps All of Louisiana is not New Orleans, I am in Louisiana less than 20 miles from the Texas state line, and less than 150 miles from Houston and New Orleans is on the far side of the Louisiana about 250 miles away.  To put it another way, driving time on Interstate from New Orleans to Houston is over 5 hours in the best of times.
Yeah, and all of New York isn't NYC and all of Florida isn't Miami-Ft Lauderdale.  Everything gets painted with a broad brush, especially in the news and gov't edicts.  The state & local governments are struggling to learn on the job, just as we citizens are struggling to deal with the effects.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2020, 04:58:32 PM »
>   And that's why the quarantine is in place. Why should Florida accept people from "hot zones" and conversely why should anyone accept people from Florida?

Because it is called the UNITED States of America. We fought a terrible war 155 years ago to uphold that premise.

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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2020, 06:08:35 PM »
Because it is called the UNITED States of America. We fought a terrible war 155 years ago to uphold that premise.

Doesn’t matter that we fought a war a century and a half ago. Folks do not need to be traveling in caravans from one state to another looking for room and board. All they are doing is spreading the virus across a large swath of the country. Stay home.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2020, 06:18:18 PM »
Doesn’t matter that we fought a war a century and a half ago. Folks do not need to be traveling in caravans from one state to another looking for room and board. All they are doing is spreading the virus across a large swath of the country. Stay home.
Because people aren't listening, this will force the hand of govt officials. Any full timer still driving around at this point is not thinking straight. Get SOMEWHERE, and stay put for a month. Give them a chance. They don't need to waste resources on caravans of people still driving across the country. The crew from NY going down to Florida is ridiculous under the circumstances.

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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2020, 06:20:19 PM »
Oldgator, judging by the Johns Hopkins tracking map, other than part of Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska and a bit of West Texas there are not many places in the US free of  community spread Covid-19 right now.  Sure nearly half the cases are in greater NYC area, but it is still everywhere, and reality is worse than the map due to delay in symptoms, testing, etc.

It has already been reported in 18 of 53 counties in North Dakota to put things in perspective, chances are by mid week that will be 40 of 53, ....

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

p.s. right now there are only a handful of states with less than 100 confirmed cases, and a number of those have numbers in the upper 90's, these include Nebraska, West Virginia, North Dakota, Wyoming, and South Dakota.  The lowest of which is South Dakota with 68 confirmed cases.  There are also 20 states with other 1,000 cases, with New York leading at 52,410 at the moment

p.p.s. sorry I left Alaska with its 84 confirmed cases off the list.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2020, 08:24:36 AM »
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Get SOMEWHERE, and stay put for a month.
AMEN!  Moving around just compounds an already difficult problem for local resources and gov't.  Forget about the "I just need to..." and start thinking about "WE".
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2020, 09:53:00 AM »
     Get used to it folks, virtually every Province in Canada has put mandatory 2 week quarantines in place for anyone crossing their borders, other than those who are transiting to get home.   No stops for groceries, no touristing, etc.  We are a few weeks ahead of the US on these measures, and they are seeing the spread reducing.
     A woman from northern New Brunswick drove the couple of miles to gas station in Quebec to buy some beer.  Upon her return in under an hour, guess what she was told that she had to quarantine for 2 weeks, and that if she didn't, she would be fined or jailed.  We are half way through our 2 week quarantine, and the only time I have been out of the house was yesterday to rake the yard, and last Tuesday to shovel the driveway.
    It is a PITA, but until there is a vaccine, it is the on;ly thing that seems to slow this highly contagious disease.  Keep safe, stay hunkered down, we want to keep everyone on the forum, the alternative is not very pleasant.

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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2020, 10:04:25 AM »
We are in Okeechobee Florida  and the plan is to stay put for at least a month, maybe two. We came here this past Monday after being evicted from a county park in Miami. There have been zero reported cases of covid-19 in this county. We've been in Florida since November.  We're not full timers, but we're not in a hurry to get home where we would be sitting and doing nothing,  just like here.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2020, 10:43:35 AM »
The thing I don't understand is why so many people are staying indoors, particularly those that could easily be outside with no other nearby people.  Maybe it makes sense for apartment dwellers in large cities, but what about all those people in rural America with half and acre or more of property around their house, where they could easily maintain a 20+ ft spacing from their neighbors, not to mention those that are on larger properties and could maintain a 200 or 2,000 ft spacing.
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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2020, 11:04:15 AM »
The thing I don't understand is why so many people are staying indoors, particularly those that could easily be outside with no other nearby people.  Maybe it makes sense for apartment dwellers in large cities, but what about all those people in rural America with half and acre or more of property around their house, where they could easily maintain a 20+ ft spacing from their neighbors, not to mention those that are on larger properties and could maintain a 200 or 2,000 ft spacing.

We have an acre and everybody around us has between .75-1.5 acres. I go out and work in the yard, sit on the porch, takes car rides through the countryside and stop and get a burger at a drive thru. Our son lives with us. He’s a 100% disabled Iraq war vet. He takes 10-15 mile hikes with his dog. Says he rarely sees anybody else.
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Re: Inter-State travel quarantine entering Florida
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2020, 11:33:59 AM »
I see a ton of people outside in parks. They all maintain distances from others, but I see a lot of people jogging, walking, and sooooo many people doing full workouts in public space. (Which I find so strange. I'm very conservative, modestly dressed, and I see people wearing next to nothing gym clothes out in public doing leg lifts, I could barely do something like that at home in front of my kids!)
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