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Gizmo

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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2020, 10:07:25 AM »
I've never seen that said anywhere by the people making that decision. That's a great side effect, but the POINT of the shut downs was to flatten the curve and not overwhelm medical establishments. I know it's different in other areas, and I admit to not following what it's doing numbers wise in other places, but where I live, it was grossly over estimated and although the vulnerable population or anyone else who chooses may still stay home, it doesn't make sense for me to stay home anymore. That was my point. I'm not making recommendations for anyone else because I don't know your specific situations, I speaking of my own situation.

You have it partially correct. Yes flattening the curve is a component of the restrictions and how do you flatten the curve, by slowing and ideally stopping the spread of the virus, if the virus spreads the curve goes up.  In addition the infectious disease docs and public health experts have all expressed concern with the spread of the virus to as I said before the elderly, most vulnerable and front line workers. 
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Barnibus

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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2020, 11:26:59 AM »


     Every day that people stay isolated only cuts their immunity down little by little. This is a terrible idea for our kids and grandkids. When people do get back together this bad cold will spread even worse. But then they will just blame it on opening to soon.
     

If you already have immunity to a bug, being isolated will not diminish that immunity. You will already have the antibodies to defend against that bug.
They don't go away if you don't get exposed again.
If you do not have immunity, you will still not have it, until you are exposed to the bug, and your immune system reacts to it.

And, if you are immune, you can still carry the bug around with you if exposed, and pass it on to others who are not immune. Your immune system will not react to bugs on you clothes or skin, and it can take a day or so for the immune response to kill off any bugs you get in you nose, or mouth or on your skin. So you can still pass it on for the better part of a day, even if you are immune.

Isolation still works better that communal gathering. I have seen this bug in action, and it is definitely worse than a "Bad Cold"
 
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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2020, 02:44:51 PM »


     Every day that people stay isolated only cuts their immunity down little by little. This is a terrible idea for our kids and grandkids. When people do get back together this bad cold will spread even worse. But then they will just blame it on opening to soon.
     

I am sorry. I avoid posting argumentative topics but this statement is the exact attitude that will prolong  this. 
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Robert K

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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2020, 04:48:07 PM »
If you already have immunity to a bug, being isolated will not diminish that immunity. You will already have the antibodies to defend against that bug.
They don't go away if you don't get exposed again.
If you do not have immunity, you will still not have it, until you are exposed to the bug, and your immune  system reacts to it.

And, if you are immune, you can still carry the bug around with you if exposed, and pass it on to others who are not immune. Your immune system will not react to bugs on you clothes or skin, and it can take a day or so for the immune response to kill off any bugs you get in you nose, or mouth or on your skin. So you can still pass it on for the better part of a day, even if you are immune.

Isolation still works better that communal gathering. I have seen this bug in action, and it is definitely worse than a "Bad Cold"



     I'm not worried about me,it's the young kids I am worried about. Thankfully it is not affecting them .
Yes I know there have been a few kids who have died.
If you don't understand what I was trying to say I'm sorry
     I wont post on this again .
 
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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2020, 04:57:00 PM »


     I'm not worried about me,it's the young kids I am worried about. Thankfully it is not affecting them .
Yes I know there have been a few kids who have died.
If you don't understand what I was trying to say I'm sorry
     I wont post on this again .
 
I understand what you were trying to say. I live in a city of 175,000 people. We've only had 3 covid deaths in people under 60 (one was a 57 year old overweight man who had diabetes and high blood pressure and smoked his entire life and I don't know who the other 2 were) yet schools are closed and, at least in our city, drug ODs are WAY up and suicides are significantly up, which leads me to believe that drug use is way up, which means you have kids stuck at home all day in bad environments, and mental health is being effected. Kids here need to be in school for their physical safety as well as their mental health. At what point does the cure cause more damage than the disease? I'm obviously not saying all kids live in bad homes and need school as an escape, but in a city with high poverty levels, there are quite a few. I feel like I'm on a roll, so I'll sit my butt down lol, but I get your point.
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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2020, 05:23:34 PM »
The park I mentioned that said they were goign to re=open on the 16th.. Just changed to June 1.. No difference to me but .. Updating (Outdoor Adventure Inc membership parks) have not talked to my Thousand Trails person in MI yet.
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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2020, 05:29:06 PM »
Campgrounds in NH OPENING but to residents only.  Lots of restrictions but open.
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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2020, 05:35:56 PM »
AND that is exactly what's going on, right now, accross the country.  Folks are sick of the "stay at home" orders/mandates/recommendations/etc.  They are getting out and there will be nothing that can stop that.  Do what you need to to protect yourself.
Not me, I am not sick of the stay at home order, in fact I love it. I only venture outside about once every two days and then I wear a mask and avoid people.

In my county in Florida, Osceola, there is a mandatory order to remain inside between 11 pm and 5 am. Now that is the stupidest idea anyone ever thought up.  How is that going to help eliminate the virus? Nothing is open at night and no one is going anywhere. 

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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2020, 06:15:18 PM »
They began reopening the Smithfield plant this week.  The only reason they closed it was for cleaning.  They are starting back gradually, starting with the Ground pork section and the cleaning crew.  The Smithfield plant is in Sioux Falls.  I haven't heard of any issue involving Rapid City.
I live about 10 miles from a Tyson plant in Iowa. Officially they closed down for cleaning and testing of employees, but word on the street from employees say it really was for huge absenteeism. They literally did not have enough people healthy to operate the lines. They kept telling the public they were taking temperatures of all employees, but they let people with fevers go to work. They they left them shoulder to shoulder with others while providing no PPE. Our county public health organization and local (not states politicians forced them to accountability. I have no sympathy for the meat packing company, and a huge amount of sympathy for their poor workers.
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Barnibus

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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2020, 07:27:47 PM »


     I'm not worried about me,it's the young kids I am worried about. Thankfully it is not affecting them .
Yes I know there have been a few kids who have died.
If you don't understand what I was trying to say I'm sorry
     I wont post on this again .
 

I think that I get where you are coming from. Wasn't trying to pick a fight or anything.
I agree that we need to figure out how to continue socialization, but with safety in mind. Children in particular need the socialization that school has usually provided, and we cannot continue the way we have been doing things lately, forever.
That was a short-term solution to an immediate threat for which we had little data upon which to act.



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Gizmo

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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2020, 07:20:00 PM »
Not me, I am not sick of the stay at home order, in fact I love it. I only venture outside about once every two days and then I wear a mask and avoid people.

In my county in Florida, Osceola, there is a mandatory order to remain inside between 11 pm and 5 am. Now that is the stupidest idea anyone ever thought up.  How is that going to help eliminate the virus? Nothing is open at night and no one is going anywhere.

I agree with you.  I was reading the other day that Issac Newton did some of his best and most important work while quarantined during the plague he lived through in his day.  I am not Issac Newton but it has been a very productive time for me in our 5th wheel, extra time with my wife, our two Akitas, quite a few projects completed, several books read and the list goes on.  And yes I also agree, the order to remain inside between 11 PM & 5 AM is pretty stupid.
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Lynx0849

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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2020, 05:23:16 PM »
I agree with you.  I was reading the other day that Issac Newton did some of his best and most important work while quarantined during the plague he lived through in his day.  I am not Issac Newton but it has been a very productive time for me in our 5th wheel, extra time with my wife, our two Akitas, quite a few projects completed, several books read and the list goes on.  And yes I also agree, the order to remain inside between 11 PM & 5 AM is pretty stupid.

I suspect the curfew was a reaction to lots of young (teens & 20s) folk congregating on city street corners even when advised not to. Ya, kinda extreme but if people used common sense , I suspect the curfew would not have happened.
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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2020, 07:41:54 PM »
The last pandemic I remember only shut down the NYS Thruway....... Was the late '60's, don't remember the pandemic but can remember the Thruway being closed !!!

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Re: State by State List of Re-openings
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2020, 11:30:48 AM »
Not me, I am not sick of the stay at home order, in fact I love it. I only venture outside about once every two days and then I wear a mask and avoid people.

In my county in Florida, Osceola, there is a mandatory order to remain inside between 11 pm and 5 am. Now that is the stupidest idea anyone ever thought up.  How is that going to help eliminate the virus? Nothing is open at night and no one is going anywhere.
Might be to stop crime?
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