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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2007, 03:53:37 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2007, 07:41:11 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2007, 09:24:48 PM »
Jeff, that's what are friends for.
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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2007, 05:28:36 AM »
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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2007, 06:46:04 AM »
A big THANK YOU for all of the replies. Jack says that we are now in the market for a used motorized roof mounted satellite internet system.

Regards,
Liz and Jack




Here is another ENGINEERING CHANGE ORDER!!!! Jack has changed his mind, AGAIN!! Jack is nervous about a roof mounted system.  ???   Jack wants to know if he will have to agree to a 2 year contract to get sateliite internet service. He also wants to know if Hughesnet is the ONLY satellite internet service provider.

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« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2007, 06:56:09 AM »
A properly installed roof mount is not a concern.  What is Jack nervous about?  I believe if you use Motosat as your VAR, you will only need a 1 year contract.  The only other viable satellite internet ISP is Starband.
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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2007, 09:10:24 AM »
liz:

The two year contract is to used to offset a $100-$200 rebate on the equipment cost. If you can find a used system WITH a series 7000 modem I beleive you will not have to sign up for the two years.

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« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2007, 09:45:55 AM »
It will have to be a 7000 series modem as HugheNet is no longer commissioning the 6000 modems although it's possible that some VARs may have some SANs for 6000 modems but I would check first.  In any case, the 7000 is a much better choice regardless of price.
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« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2007, 09:49:40 AM »
A properly installed roof mount is not a concern.  What is Jack nervous about?  I believe if you use Motosat as your VAR, you will only need a 1 year contract.  The only other viable satellite internet ISP is Starband.

Jack is nervous about the monthly cost of the service. I just received info that if we use Motosat as our VAR, we will be locked into a 18 month contract at a monthly fee of $79.99. Went to the Datastorm users forum and asked there. But that is only one reply, so far. 
I'm getting a headache over all of this stuff.     >:(       >:(       >:(

Liz
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« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2007, 09:50:54 AM »
Starband is another satellite internet service provider, but I have no experience with them.
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« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2007, 10:11:40 AM »
You're not going to find any broadband internet service that doesn't have a contract for at least the first year.
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« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2007, 10:39:00 AM »
The other internet by satellite system is Starband.  However, unless something has changed you cannot use a Starband system with Motosat as they haven't yet came out with an Automated Cross Pole system.

If you buy a Hughesnet system used there may be no committment.  I do know of a few individuals that have the Motosat system that they bought used and just used their existing Hughesnet modem with the Motosat.  Some folks use the Motosat system but do not use Motosat as a VAR.
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« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2007, 01:45:32 PM »
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If you buy a Hughesnet system used there may be no committment.  I do know of a few individuals that have the Motosat system that they bought used and just used their existing Hughesnet modem with the Motosat.  Some folks use the Motosat system but do not use Motosat as a VAR.

I thought that one had to use a VAR to get  the Hughesnet service.   ???    ???    ???

I have some holes in the  understanding graph. 

Liz
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« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2007, 01:49:43 PM »
Liz,

What you "have to have" with HughesNet and Starband is a certified installer to activate/register the modem. However, you have to use a VAR to get the Datastorm equipment.
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« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2007, 02:15:08 PM »
Liz,

What you "have to have" with HughesNet and Starband is a certified installer to activate/register the modem. However, you have to use a VAR to get the Datastorm equipment.

Ohhhhh, OK. Is a VAR also a installer?

Liz
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« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2007, 02:45:19 PM »
Is a VAR also a installer?

I suppose they are, or could be. But I'll let Ned or Russ answer that one.

BTW my VAR comments refer to new equipment. The folks here who have bought used Datastorm systems have installed the equipment themselves and merely hooked up their existing HughesNet modems which had been previously activated/registered (by a certified installer).
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« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2007, 03:20:32 PM »
The other internet by satellite system is Starband.  However, unless something has changed you cannot use a Starband system with Motosat as they haven't yet came out with an Automated Cross Pole system.

My auto roof mount is an iNetVu by C-COM vs. Motosat with a Starband dish. SB does not require x-pol to get on line. And the iNetVu mount is so precise SB does not require users to test X-Pol after lock on.
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« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2007, 03:27:50 PM »
When you buy a HughesNet system for tripod mounting, you buy from a dealer who is your first line of support.  HughesNet is the secondary support.  When you buy a Datastorm from a dealer, the dealer is again the first line of support, but your actual service is bought from a VAR (Value Added Reseller) like Motosat.  You can call the VAR directly for technical support for the HughesNet service, you never call HughesNet.  The value added is the support is infinitely better than you will get from HughesNet who won't even talk to you as you bought service from the VAR. The VAR gives you more flexibility, such as being able to changes satellites if necessary, nearly impossible to do if dealing directly with HugheNet.  This considerable additional support costs an additional $10/month.  With a Datastorm you will get the Pro Plan which has a higher FAP than the home plan that normally comes with a tripod system.
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« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2007, 03:29:30 PM »
The Datastorm has also been proven to be precise enough to not require cross pol also, but HugesNet insists on it.  They would do so with any mount.  The Datastorm is also being used successfully with the iDirect service.  If the Datastorm  were configured for Starband, it wouldn't require cross pol either.
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« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2007, 03:44:16 PM »
When you buy a HughesNet system for tripod mounting, you buy from a dealer who is your first line of support.  HughesNet is the secondary support.  When you buy a Datastorm from a dealer, the dealer is again the first line of support, but your actual service is bought from a VAR (Value Added Reseller) like Motosat.  You can call the VAR directly for technical support for the HughesNet service, you never call HughesNet.  The value added is the support is infinitely better than you will get from HughesNet who won't even talk to you as you bought service from the VAR. The VAR gives you more flexibility, such as being able to changes satellites if necessary, nearly impossible to do if dealing directly with HugheNet.  This considerable additional support costs an additional $10/month.  With a Datastorm you will get the Pro Plan which has a higher FAP than the home plan that normally comes with a tripod system.

OK, I understand that. Thanks.
What would the situation be if I purchased a used Datastorm system from a private individual?  How do I get service? Would I contact a VAR for that?

Liz
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« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2007, 03:48:31 PM »
Yes, you could contact Motosat (for example, but I can't recommend any one else) for service.  You could even purchase a maintenance contract on the Datastorm.
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« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2007, 07:52:32 PM »
In our case I think the extra $10 a month for VAR service would have been a waste of money since in the 6 + years I have been using Satellite interent we have yet  to find it necessary to contact Direcway/Hughesnet or my installer for any kind of service.  Also when I upgraded to the 7000 modem I took the pro plane which casts $69 a month.
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« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2007, 08:57:33 PM »
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In our case I think the extra $10 a month for VAR service would have been a waste of money since in the 6 + years I have been using Satellite interent we have yet  to find it necessary to contact Direcway/Hughesnet or my installer for any kind of service.
Same can be said about insurance; pick one - auto, health, rv maint. etc. You hope you never need it, but when you do, do you want to be put in the queue with someone with nothing to lose/gain, or someone with a little skin in the game, like Motosat? I think an additional $120/yr is pretty cheap for the coverage and support you get.

Liz (and Jack),
I'd be willing to bet you pay at least half the $80/mo you would spend on a dish system for your cell phone(s). They're not free either, and require a 1-2 year commitment for new service or a 'New after two' upgrade, as provided by some companies. Maybe time to retire the buggy whip?  ;) 
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« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2007, 03:27:52 PM »

Liz (and Jack),
I'd be willing to bet you pay at least half the $80/mo you would spend on a dish system for your cell phone(s). They're not free either, and require a 1-2 year commitment for new service or a 'New after two' upgrade, as provided by some companies. Maybe time to retire the buggy whip?  ;) 

LOL. Actually our cell phone monthly bill is a family plan, $70. Jack's thrifty side is in full force over this dish system. But he grudgingly admits that we have to do something. C'est la vie.   :D   :D

Regards,
Liz
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« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2007, 04:00:51 PM »
Just don't let it become C'est la gar between the two of you ;)
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« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2007, 06:11:09 PM »
Just don't let it become C'est la gar between the two of you ;)



LOL!!!

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Liz
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