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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« on: March 02, 2008, 12:02:31 PM »
I have found this forum to be very inspiring and full of useful information. Despite all the information on importing an RV into the UK, I do not feel I have the expertise or the time to do it on my own. There are several companies offering to help me and I wonder if anyone has any experience most notably with Tim Rodway of RV Imports.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 12:28:08 PM »
What does RV Imports offer to do that you couldn't do on your own? Would that be the part about visiting the U.S., finding and buying the RV, then wandering around the U.S. for long enough to avoid VAT at the UK end?
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 05:37:00 PM »
Hopefully in a few years time I will be able to put into practice all of the wonderful adventures I have read about and after a suitably long long exploation of North America I can return with a magnificent RV without paying Duty or VAT! BUT here & now I must still put the hours in at work which leaves me little time which i would rather not spend on the bureacracy of UK  importing. I guess I am scared it will take up time I do not have & with my lack of experience I will  get it wrong leaving me with a vehicle in UK docks that is illegal on UK roads.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 07:19:45 PM »
Understood Andy. Just be sure that work doesn't override your life and you run out of time to live your dream. It took many of us a long time to realize this could happen and some of us took action early.

I recall a few years ago running into an old boss of mine, an aggressive, overpowering character in his working life. I commented that he was not the guy I remember working with and that he was now so different and relaxed. His reply was "One day I realized that what was really important was the percentage of my life that's remaining. That's the day I retired and bought a boat."

Trust you received my email and hope you were wearing &/or eating a leek on March 1.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2008, 07:07:25 AM »
I hear you load and clear Tom.javascript:void(0); Life is there to be enjoyed and I don't want to that put off until tomorrow.javascript:void(0);
Didn't get a chance to eat a leek on St Davids Day (1.3.08), but did enjoy some lava bread wrapped in mature smoked bacon.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2008, 07:39:33 AM »
Andy

I'm researching some worrying info at the moment which, if correct, will put a stop to ALL RVs being imported into the UK from 2012.

You may have to plan that trip pretty soon.  :o

I will let you know when I know more.

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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 08:30:45 AM »
Thanks Paul I wasn't aware of that.
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 The original plan was to buy a "nice" RV circa 2011 and start taking longer holidays touring around europe before going over to the USA in 2013/14 to buy our "dream" RVjavascript:void(0); and discover North America for over 12 months so allowing us to bring the RV back with us and not pay Duty & VAT. However, as Tom stated earlier, life is too short and there are more important things than work. The "new" plan is to buy now and tour North America in 2011. As I am working full time I don't want to "waste" my valuable free time sorting out Duty, VAT & road licensing an RV Import, hence the option of using RV Imports.
   Tim (from RV Imports) organizes trips over to the states, helps you chose your RV, imports it, licenses it over here and does the electrics (plugs , headlights etc). This would obviously mean I can spend more time with the family (and the RV when it arrives) and less time organizing the import. I can only take so much time off and this looked like the best solution, but if anyone else has any suggestions I would greatly appreciated it.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 10:31:42 AM »

Andy

forgive my "straight to the point" reply BUT.....

why buy now if you arent going to do the tour until 2011? - and what use is there in speaking with rv imports until then (if at all) ?

if you are wanting a few holidays between now and 2011 then it will be cheaper to rent as you wont have the depreciation to worry about (you get to see if you like it and/or the USA too before you buy).

then, as long as you are back in the UK by april 2012, you could visit the US as planned in 2011, buy your RV and do a 12 month tour - which will qualify for VAT and Duty Free (if perk is still around then of course).

when 2011/2012 comes around you wont be working and will have the time to sort out the import etc (it really isnt that bad).

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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 10:41:03 AM »
I'm also curious how much RV Imports charges for this service. Maybe I just found a new source of retirement income.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 11:37:40 AM »
Hi Guy
Tim Rodway lives about 3 miles from me and I know him quite well.
He is a decent bloke who does this part time to supplement his income.
I've not heard anyone say anything bad about him in fact quite the oppossite most people who deal with him sing his praises.
He offered to import a new Monaco Cayman for me for the problem was I could buy the Monaco 10k cheaper than he could because he's stuck with 1 supplier where as I could shop around and play 1 against the other.
He wanted 5k for his trouble on top off shipping costs and about 1.5k for UK conversions.
There is no reason you can't do this yourself if you do your homework.
It appears quite daunting at first but once you get into it it's not that terrifying and once it's in the UK there are plenty off people to do the conversions.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 11:40:49 AM »
Unemotionally Paul you are right. Rent now, save me money and buy in 2011 when I am going to get full use out of the RV. :(
BUT emotionally I want to start the dream NOW  ;D or at least sooner than 2011.
I want to join the RV Family. Become part of the RV lifestyle if only for long weekends and the odd week here and there. I know I'm being impatient and that will cost me money in depreciation etc, but can you see my point of view? :-\
Tom, the ball park figures I've been told to work to, but not written in stone are for 50,000 sterling look for a $70,000 RV. Price to include shipping,Duty,VAT, MOT & Tax (probably only 6 months) and full UK electric conversion (240v and headlamps). I think this isn't bad value for money, but then again it would probably take me ten times longer to do, plus I get peace of mind.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 11:43:13 AM »
Thanks Rory for the feedback on Tim  :) as I had found him most helpful.
Andy
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 11:53:15 AM »
Andy,

Just to be sure I interpret the numbers correctly, you pay 50,000 quid ($100,000) for which you get a $70,000 RV. Everything you listed is included in the 50,000 quid. Given the shipping cost, duty and VAT, that doesn't sound like a bad deal. You end up with a "legal", licensed RV ready to go in the UK and, like you said, you don't need to take a year off work.

BTW the way the $US is going, you might get it for less (or get more RV For your money) if you wait a short while.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 01:45:58 PM »
So the story so far... if I cann't/wont wait until 2011 then with my limited amount of free time getting the help of Tim from RV Imports seems like a good idea. Now Tim will help advise me on which RV to buy, but it would be useful if people could recommend dealers to visit when we go out to Florida in April. 8)
Rory I think Tim is using more than one dealer now,but I would still like to get a feel for what is on offer and at what price at a few places.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2008, 01:51:04 PM »
So you still visit the U.S., make the choice of RV, and make the actual purchase? Or does Tim actually buy it for you?
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 02:19:01 PM »

Andy

I guess I have a distrust of dealers and dont like giving my money away if I can help it.

From what Rory stated, this Tim will likely charge you 5,000 for helping plus 1,500 for the conversion.  :o :o :o

Why not give us an idea what you want :-

petrol or diesel (probably petrol for the funds you have)
length (any restrictions on parking at home etc)
slides (probably as many as possible)
to sleep (how many must the RV sleep and whether adults, kids etc)
colour (white with graphics easiest)

TBH Andy, if you take a look at a few dealer websites and knock 25% off, you can be looking at an RV displayed at c$90,000 on the lot.

You can get a brand new 2008 gas RV for that much ($90k - 25%).

That's $67,500 to buy plus $1,000 to have someone drive to docks plus $4,000 shipping and $20,000 (10,500 approx) for UK taxes - thats $92,500.

You started with $98,000 (70,000), so take off the $92,500 and you have $7,500 for conversion - thats 3,700 !!

Your conversion will set you back a maximum of 2,000 inc new TVs.

If you want someone to complete the 10 minutes worth of paperwork, collect the RV from Southampton and deliver it for conversion - you should be paying A LOT less than Tims 5k.

1,000 should be more than enough for anyone - in fact, give me the nod when you're ready.  ;D

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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2008, 02:21:10 PM »
A grey area Tom. Tim organizes trips over to the States when he has enough interest (I think he is coming over tomorrow with 2 couples). It's a 3 day trip and he organizes flight, accommodation and which dealers to see. But he is also happy to let you to make your own arrangements. I'm still finding out the best way to do it and I'm not 100% sure ??? if what I have said is right, but it is to the best of my knowledge. :)
When we plan to go Tim will not be going, but he will advise us where to go and will get the vehicle checked out before we buy (don't know how, haven't asked yet).
I'll keep everyone informed as to the exact details when I know more.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2008, 02:40:54 PM »
Paul I might well take you up on that offer ;D
As I understand it:- 50k gets you (via Tim) a fully modified,MOT & taxed uk road legal $70k imported RV.
If I'm luck and I talk to my bank manager nicely $70k will cost me 37,995 (http://www.currenciesdirect.com/uk/#
Currencies Direct - Foreign Exchange Broker's) lets call it 38k.
Add Duty and Vat.
38 + 10% = 41.8
41.8 + 17.5% = 49.115.
That doesn't leave a lot for shipping and uk conversion? :-\
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2008, 02:48:06 PM »
As for the interesting stuff ;D
We are looking for an A class about 30 feet long (preferably smaller not larger). Must have slide outs. Plenty of light in the rear island double bedroom (or she will kill me). Leveling jacks, air con etc etc and at the price we are looking at probably gas which we will convert to LPG.
Let me pause for a while with a silly grin on my face as I picture it ;D

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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2008, 03:29:25 PM »
Andy
I was in Florida in January
Flight 320 return
Car Hire 100 week
Motel 150 week
Fuel 40 week
Compare that to the savings I made.
I used it as a holiday and a chance to look at RVs I did a lot of miles and visited  large and small dealers and a couple of private sales I arranged from the UK.
I bought a RV which was advertised at $125000 for $70000 (35k) it is petrol 2006 4000 miles and mint, it would cost 100k plus in the UK. There has never been a better time to buy an RV especially with the exchange rate at the moment. My advise would be go on your own look at Tim's choices by all means but I guarentee you'll do a better deal and the savings are massive. Use the NADA guide and buy at the bottom price. One word of warning those guys now how to deal and you must be hard and be prepared to walk out no matter how much you like a vehicle. They will come after you and ithey don't there are thousands for sale.
Also speak to the guys on this forum when you're there they'll give you good advise.
Good Luck
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2008, 03:53:23 PM »
Good advice Ror.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2008, 04:23:57 PM »
Thanks Rory,
Any notes on your trip would be greatly recieved (where to go, who to see etc.)
I know the exchange rates etc mean now is a great time to buy, but I won't be rushed (or bullied) into buying. I will definatly be taking my laptop with me & you will probably be sick of me by the time I do buy ::)
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2008, 05:38:48 PM »
For 5k  i will arrange your flights, pick you up from the airport,take you around several dealers you could even stay with me in my new 5th wheel to get you in the RV mood then arrange the shipping and UK conversion.Wow money for old rope.Honestly do your homework and do it yourself  its very easy if i could do it anyone can
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2008, 05:42:49 PM »
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For 5k  i will arrange your flights, pick you up from the airport,take you around several dealers ..

Hey Ian, wait in line  ;D
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2008, 02:24:22 AM »

Hi Andy

I wouldnt use a bank for money transfer - try www.onlinefx.co.uk

Their rate today is approx 1.9763 which will give you just over $70,000 for 35,450 plus 30 transfer fee.

See - you've just managed to save 2,500 just by posting on a forum.

Stick with it and you'll see everything else can fall into place just as easily.

Good Luck

Paul

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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2008, 01:53:58 PM »
Thanks everybody :)

2,500 saved and firends made. Life really is sweet ;D

Just found out that the time share we had arranged to stay at has gone pear shaped, so unless another slot turns up soon we will be delaying our florida trip. :(

Tanya (my better half) was sold on the idea of using our timeshare so I wont even contemplate asking her if we can stay anywhere else (Hotels etc.)

All good things come to those who wait ::)

I'll keep everyone up dated. Thanks again.

Andy
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2008, 01:10:49 PM »
Hi Andy

I'm a bit late jumping in, but here's my pennyworth.   We're on our fifth RV in the States (currently a 2008 Newmay Kountry Star).   When negotiating, the advice we were given was start by looking for a one third discount, and do not settle for less than 28% - and that worked with all of them.   Once the salesman is hooked casually mention a few extras - they often have more leeway with those than with straight cash.   If you're buying in Florida, Lazy Days come to mind, being the biggest on that coast.   Not our choice (we prefer the West Coast) but we did buy a 5th wheel for a Brit friend from them, got a very good deal on price, then asked them to transport it to Jacksonville for the ferry to Southampton, which they did free of charge.   Then when he had problems with the awning in North Wales, they shipped a new one to him without any hassle at all.

Best advice I've read in all the postings, is to come on over, look around all the RV dealers, enjoy the experience and have fun - a week in a motel (if you can't get the time share you mejntioned), a week's car rental, 400 each for the return flight, 1250 for the lot and you'll have a ball - and save a ton of money too.

Terry (enjoying the sun in Arizona)

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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2008, 03:31:58 PM »

Hi Andy

A reference for you I've just booked flights for next week with return flights in June 310 each that includes 20 off for regular fliers through Expedia.com.
Booked a nice hotel 10 miles outside Tampa for a few days while we sort out the RV $110 (55)ish for 2 nights for 2 including breakfast.
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Re: Importing an RV into the UK
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2008, 08:42:06 AM »
Thanks for your advice Terry.
I/we intend on having fun buying the RV and not getting too stressed about it. We have decided only to buy if it feels right and to enjoy having a holiday in Florida. 8)

you said:-
" When negotiating, the advice we were given was start by looking for a one third discount, and do not settle for less than 28% - and that worked with all of them. "
Is that for a new RV or does that apply to second hand RV's as well?

Rory,
Thanks for the advice on flights, but I had already booked them via travelocity which is why we are staying an extra day (big savings$$$$),
If you say you have flexible travel options they produce a grid which shows the different prices for different days.

We are leaving on March 30th so any more advice greatly accepted.

Can't wait 8)

Andy
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2008, 10:48:32 AM »
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We are leaving on March 30th so any more advice greatly accepted.

Just be sure to bring sweaters, overcoats and snow boots. Florida gets pretty cold that time of year.

Nah, just kidding. After (not so) sunny South Wales, you'll think you're on the Med  ;D
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