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Re: 1st Trip out - Went GREAT, but I have some questions
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2008, 02:56:28 PM »
We to just went out on our first trip to myrtle beach and the new-used 5er went well for us but we had the same problem with the 30a power. When the wife turend on the hair drier while the air was on high and the hotwater heater was on electric It turned in to me taking the flashlight to the power pole. We switched the water heater to gas and had no other problems the rest of the trip.

Another Idea my brother-in-law let me in on was to use a 12gauge drop cord with 3 outlets on the end to power my electric frying pan and coffie maker. We plugged it in to the extra plugs on the power pole and this let me start breakfast and the coffee while the wife ran some other electric items in the camper (curling iron, Air, Microwave) Just a thought.
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Re: 1st Trip out - Went GREAT, but I have some questions
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2008, 01:39:30 PM »
Another Idea my brother-in-law let me in on was to use a 12gauge drop cord with 3 outlets on the end to power my electric frying pan and coffie maker. We plugged it in to the extra plugs on the power pole and this let me start breakfast and the coffee while the wife ran some other electric items in the camper (curling iron, Air, Microwave) Just a thought.

Someone else mentioned that earlier, however the campground that i stay at only has the 30amp plug, not a 110V outlet so unfortunately I couldn't do that. Sounds like it would work well though if I could.
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Re: 1st Trip out - Went GREAT, but I have some questions
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2008, 02:15:24 PM »
That trick will work if the 20A outlet is on a separate circuit from the 30A outlet.  Some will be wired in parallel, on the same breaker, and you'll still be limited to 30A total.
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Re: 1st Trip out - Went GREAT, but I have some questions
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2008, 02:24:03 PM »
Ned, I guess it will be safe to assume that they will be on separate circuits if there are 2 circuit breakers installed.

Now if there also is a 50 amp outlet and only 2 c/b's, all bets are off. Trial by error comes into effect. :)

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Re: 1st Trip out - Went GREAT, but I have some questions
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2008, 02:38:11 PM »
Ned, I guess it will be safe to assume that they will be on separate circuits if there are 2 circuit breakers installed.

Not necessarily, the 20A breaker would protect the 20A outlet, but doesn't guarantee that it's not on the same feed as the 30A outlet.  The only way to be sure is to open the box and see how it's wired.
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Re: 1st Trip out - Went GREAT, but I have some questions
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2008, 10:24:19 AM »
I've read through this discussion a couple of times and I'm still confussed / concerned.  We just bought a new TT that I'm about to install a new flat screen TV in. The last thing I want to do is have a surge or power outage damage it (or any of the other electronics for that matter). 

Do I need to install a UPS?  Is a surge protector (the one from Progressive Industries) a better way to go than a UPS?  Are either hard to install?   Based on what you've said Ned, I'll probably just run the hot water off of gas since it sucks up so much power.  Thanks in advance!
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Re: 1st Trip out - Went GREAT, but I have some questions
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2008, 12:31:35 PM »
I would recommend a surge protector over a UPS.  You're more concerned about protection from miswired outlets and surges than in keeping the TV running in the event of a power outage.  The Progressive Industries units come in both hard wired and portable.  The portable unit plugs into the pedestal and you plug your power cord into the unit.  However, these have been know to disappear if not locked down.  I prefer the hard wired unit (which is what I have) as it's always there and isn't subject to theft.  It's not difficult to install, but you should have some familiarity with working with 110VAC wiring.
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Re: 1st Trip out - Went GREAT, but I have some questions
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2008, 03:00:03 PM »
Job of UPS is to provide power long enough for you to SAVE AND EXIT when mains fail.  Though a good UPS will often have surge protection built in, and filtering and a bunch of other "Improvements" only a "Power line conditioner" type is as good as or better than a dedicated surge guard or Progressive power guard.

I use several Surge gards (Spike protectors) on my rig. Enough that the odds of a spike or surge getting past them all are low

All the delicate stuff hangs off the Prosine 2.0 (inverter/converter/UPS all in one) and it's part paranoid about line quality
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