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derbyflan

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B2 Visa - Addresses?
« on: June 08, 2008, 05:05:46 AM »
I've been looking at the B2 application form and noticd that it's asking for addresses of where we'll be staying during our proposed tour of the US.  The trouble is we don't know the specifics yet and we were going to only have a flexible plan of RV Camps, Flying Js etc.

Sorry for asking dumb questions but I'm stuck already :(

Thanks again
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 07:08:19 AM »

No problems asking - we've all been stuck with one form or another.

Just write "touring the USA in an RV", and write on there somewhere that it is a "once in a lifetime holiday" as that should keep them happy that you're not staying.

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2008, 10:03:19 AM »
As easy as that? ???

I thought they'd want every minute detail.

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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2008, 10:34:52 AM »
Nah. It's the bureaucracy requiring that someone fill something in the space on the form. I suppose you could say Disneyland Hotel, but I think Paul's suggestion would be better for a 6-month stay.

When you arrive at the airport, if they ask which campgrounds, just say you'll pick them from a campground directory as you go along. Don't say you'll be sleeping in Flying J or Wal*Mart parking lots  ;)
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derbyflan

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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2008, 03:29:46 PM »
I'm beginning to think that this might actually be easier than I first thought?

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2008, 04:12:09 PM »

When we arrived in March the only form we filled in was the one on the plane.
I just booked our flights on the internet 14 weeks apart and turned up.
The address I used was the hotel we stayed at for the first day.
We were asked a couple of questions told the guy we would be touring in a Rv and away we went.
We only stay for 3 months at a time so I suppose its less of a problem for us.

Most of the sites we stayed at had very strict rules on dogs and a long list of unacceptable breeds.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 04:20:17 PM »
In a travel guide I read it is a good idea to answer the question "Address While in the United States" with the address of the first place you stay overnight. The name of a hotel is ok the guide said.
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2008, 04:55:25 PM »
Ror and Mike,

The address of the first hotel is fine on the I-94 form you get on the plane. Derby's question was in respect of his B2 visa application he mails while still in the UK in order to get the visa stamped in his passport.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2008, 09:59:54 PM »

Most of the sites we stayed at had very strict rules on dogs and a long list of unacceptable breeds.

The universal rules seem to be always on leash, never leave unattended outside of RV, and always clean up leavings.  Restrictions on size and breed do occurr -- the guard breeds are the ones usually discriminated against.   Pet owner of those breeds, or any pooch for that matter are well advised to us a Trailer Life or a Woodalls campground directory and a cell phone to call ahead.   Mention your critters when reserving.
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derbyflan

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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 05:56:33 PM »
Thanks again for the input fellas.  To be honest, I'm not too concerned about the dogs once we're inside the US/Canada.  I've read quite a bit about RV sites not allowing dogs or restricting the type/size/numbers of animal so I can plot my waypoints around that issue - but I will call ahead as suggested.

Another question I have concerns extending the visa (assuming we're granted one).  Do I apply for the family extension to the US Embassy back in the UK or through a consulate office in the State we're in at the time?  Also.... I hear that quite often there's a backlog of applications which can take months for you to find out if you're successful or not.  What correspondence address did those of you who've been through the process use in the past?  Surely (standby for dumb question...) if you don't have a US address you don't sit at some RV park waiting to find out if you've been granted your extension or not?

Also.... if they finally turn you down and the wait due to backlog has now caused your Visa to expire - are you then classed as an illegal?   

Again thanks for your help.

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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 09:27:28 PM »
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....are you then classed as an illegal?

Yes, and they load you in a Paddy wagon and drop you off at the Mexican border  :o

The issue you'll have is when you try to cross back into the US from Canada. You won't have a valid visa or extension and you might be refugees of the Canadian government.
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2008, 12:12:09 AM »
see http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=94d12c1a6855d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD

we classed ourselves as being from South Dakato as that was where our mail-forwarding company address was.

you send off the form to the address given for your State (I cant remember which address now). Although the address to send it is not in your State.

all you need is proof you sent the application and fee at least 1 day before your current Visa expires.

as we found at the time (2006, and they may have caught up now - all Americans laughing at that statement  ;D), they were 4 months behind processing forms so even if they say No, you will get that extra "backlog time".

they key thing they ask for is proof you intend to leave on the date you say ie copy of plane ticket.

you cannot do one I-539 and then another, so it's best to go to Canada and come back and then do the I-539 as your last stay.

you are free to travel whilst your application is being processed.

paul
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2008, 12:23:42 AM »
Thanks for posting that link Paul. I now recall you and I having some discussion about I-539 with Mick. Click here to view.
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2008, 06:38:36 AM »
Yes, and they load you in a Paddy wagon and drop you off at the Mexican border  :o...
;D

Oh well, I fancied a trip to Mexico anyway 8)

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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2008, 03:36:04 PM »
Thanks for posting that link Paul. I now recall you and I having some discussion about I-539 with Mick. Click here to view.

Hi Paul / Tom / Guys
My visits are no more than 12 to 14 weeks at a time and the return flight is always booked as we find this the easiest and cheapest way of doing things.
The only visa we complete is the one on the plane as we arrive in the states. The plan is to do this probably twice a year until we've finished touring the states. Do you envisage us having any problems doing it this way as we're only staying 3 months, we've had none so far but that does'nt mean we won't. Reading this thread has just worried me slightly in case we should be applying for a different type of visa. Would appreciate any advise as I would rather not speak to an embassy unless I really have to as you never get a straight answer anyway.
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forestboy

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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2008, 03:49:48 PM »

Think I've just answered the question myself using the link to the Visa Waiver Programme which is exactly what we do.
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UK-RV

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2008, 04:14:47 PM »

Hiya

The only thing I would say is that they DO keep a record of every visit you make, and it is (apparently) available to the POE Officer you first get to.

I think if you were staying 3 months, going home for a couple of weeks and then going back, they might have something to say.

If you're in 3 months, out 3 months and then back in I couldnt imagine there being a problem.

Alas, it is the US and they are entitled to change their rules and/or opinion as and when they like - no matter how much it upsets the RV tourists from the UK.

Paul

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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2008, 04:41:18 PM »
Ror, yes, your shorter stays allow you to slide in under radar screen using the visa waiver program. Paul gives good advice on keeping good records of your visits.

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.... no matter how much it upsets the RV tourists from the UK.

It's not an issue of upsetting tourists Paul. But it might have something to do with the fact that the UK is an involuntary host to terrorists. Allowing folks from the UK into and out of the US without scrutiny would IMHO be foolhardy and asking for trouble.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2008, 02:45:12 PM »

Sorry Tom

My post was intended to show support for the US Immigration stance.

They are entitled to change the rules when they like EVEN IF it upsets the tourists.

Those tourists can, of course, decide whether or not they feel the rules are too agressive and where to spend their money. Again, no controversy intended just highlighting the options.

Paul

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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2008, 03:16:36 PM »
No need to apologize Paul, I didn't take your message to be anti-US or anti-security. OTOH if we were talking about the proposed restrictions across the Severn Bridge ...
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2008, 10:14:37 AM »
I'm wandering about, looking at the interesting threads, and have just stumbled in here.  Hence my belated (and irrelevant!) response.

How dumb are we then?  We planned our trip for several years but we flew into Houston on a one-way ticket.  I was a little nervous about the immigration procedure at the time but when I think about it now, what sort of message might that have sent to a different immigration officer???

In the event all that happened is that he asked whether we realised we could stay for only six months maximum to which we answered yes and that was that. 

Of course we planned to apply for extensions (which were approved twice) but I didn't say anything at the time - a good thing I managed to keep mi gob shut!!!  ;D

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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2008, 04:45:15 PM »
As a British American dual national  who has lived in the U.S. for 34 years I can relate well to the problems Brits have entering the U.S.  I was never more amazed after acquiring a U.S. passport to have a U.S. immigration person say "welcome home" to me after suffering years of abuse, distrust and general rudeness from U.S. immigration when entering as an alien (from another planet!)  ;)
Interestingly though the shoe is now on the other foot when I go back to the U.K. to visit my family.  It used to be that the British immigration were polite and asked questions about where I'd be staying, what I'd be doing in a very general interest kind of way.  I've even had a "welcome home" from them.  The last couple of times that I've gone over the pond though I've found a general "dislike" because I was entering on a U.S. passport.  You have to do that so you have the right stamps for when you return to the U.S.  I was even asked to produce my return ticket to the U.S. to make sure I was actually leaving, even though I was born in England. 
When we crossed from Maine this summer to Campobello Island in Canada to see FDR's summer cottage, we were only entering Canada for three hours but had the motor home searched and did not get the usual Canadian charming welcome. 
I feel as Americans we have shot ourselves in the foot as we are now receiving what we have subjected our visitors to for many years. 

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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2008, 04:50:56 PM »
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You have to do that so you have the right stamps for when you return to the U.S.

Sounds like you've been standing in those long immigration lines at Heathrow unnecessarily. As another long-time BA, all I do is wave my UK/EU passport at them when I walk into Heathrow; No standing in line and no rudeness. Nobody has questioned me when I've returned to the US and received the "welcome home" greeting. OTOH maybe it's because there are so many stamps in the passport from so many countries that they get confused.

I recall returning from Canada in the RV and having the US border agent ask me where I'd worked during my career. When I told him, he said "oh, that explains all those visits to the Middle East". Since this was post 9/11, I politely corrected him by saying "that would be the Far East; Singapore, the Philippines, Malaysia, China, Korea, Indonesia, Japan, etc", to which he replied "oh yes, that's right", and promptly returned my passport.

When we came up the coast from Mexico, we made the obligatory stop at the customs dock in San Diego. We'd called ahead, and they had 3 border agents waiting to board our boat. All our guests went unquestioned, as did my other half who was in bed feeling poorly. I OTOH was asked to produce either my passport or a US birth certificate; Must have been my west-of-the-Severn accent. I couldn't remember where I'd put our passports "safe" 3 months earlier, and started sweating. That's when the agent asked for my drivers license and made a phone. He hung up and said "you're in our computer, so you're good. Have a nice day."
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2008, 10:08:48 PM »
Guess I will try entering the U.K. with my British passport next time.  I did that when I first had two passports as it felt weird to stand in line to enter the U.K. as a foreigner.  Even the EU passports can get in ahead of the non-people.  When I was leaving Gatwick the British exit immigration folks checked my U.S. passport which proved I could legally enter the U.S.  This was in 1977 when visas were needed.   There was no entry stamp as I'd entered Britain on my British one.  When asked where it was I promptly produced my British passport and was told to put it away immediately as they don't like to see two passports.  They told me that the U.S. would definitely not like it.  Since that day I've always entered Britain as a foreigner.  I'd certainly like to get in the short line so if it works for you then I can give it a try again as I have several stamps too from other places so it may not be scrutinized as much.
The problem I had when they wanted to see my return ticket partly related to the fact I was entering Newcastle at the same time as a flight from Dubai and they thought I was coming in on that flight and not from Paris as I claimed.  Potentially traveling with an American passport from Dubai and entering Northeast England raised eyebrows, I think.  Having to produce a ticket to prove I planned to leave did not sit well with me!
A sweet situation to be in nevertheless.  I love both countries very much and consider myself very blessed to have lived in both.  I came here to marry an American.  It wasn't a case of leaving Britain because I didn't like it.
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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2008, 10:20:53 PM »
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I came here to marry an American.  It wasn't a case of leaving Britain because I didn't like it.

My wife shares the same first name as you, but she couldn't get out of not-so-sunny South Wales quick enough.
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2008, 12:54:45 AM »
Fascinating stories guys - we're just babies compared to you guys! :D


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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2008, 05:29:39 AM »
macmac,

To answer your original question,

I contacted and set up a mailbox with Florida based mailbox company http://www.pakmailkissimmee.com/  in Kissimmee.

The company is owned by a very friendly English couple Val & Bernie who I contacted via Free Call http://www.freecall.com/en/index.html   for FREE to set up the mailbox.

It involved Val sending me some forms to fill in which were sent back together with copies of your passport, once Val had received them I paid for 12mths use and Val sent me our full mailbox address. :)

We flew out on a fly / drive package but rented a villa for 28 days in Kissimmee hence the above.

The address also became our address for our HSBC Florida bank account.

I also joined the FMCA http://www.fmca.com/  and our membership card etc was waiting for us on our arrival.

Mick
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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2008, 06:15:02 AM »
macmac,

To answer your original question,

I contacted and set up a mailbox with Florida based mailbox company http://www.pakmailkissimmee.com/  in Kissimmee.

The company is owned by a very friendly English couple Val & Bernie who I contacted via Free Call http://www.freecall.com/en/index.html   for FREE to set up the mailbox.

It involved Val sending me some forms to fill in which were sent back together with copies of your passport, once Val had received them I paid for 12mths use and Val sent me our full mailbox address. :)

We flew out on a fly / drive package but rented a villa for 28 days in Kissimmee hence the above.

The address also became our address for our HSBC Florida bank account.

I also joined the FMCA http://www.fmca.com/  and our membership card etc was waiting for us on our arrival.

Mick


Thanks for this Mick but it wasn't me who asked.  ;) :)

We started our trip in 2004 in a very similar fashion to yourselves but flew into Houston, spending 7 weeks in Sunsuites at Greenspoint, Houston, visited Livingston (close by) to join Escapees and to sign up for their mail service which in turn provided an address legal for: driving tests, title, registration and insurance in Polk County.  Our apartment block address allowed us to open an account at the next-door Wells Fargo branch and provided us with the FAX services needed for insurance documents.  We also had a no-cost landline when we telephoned back to the UK using a cheap call-card.....

Incidentally, like many wannabes, we had to decide which state would be our 'homestate'.  Florida was one choice but I was told by a Brit we met at the Tampa RV show - he owned a villa in Orlando - that each time he visited FL he also had to visit the DMV to get his driving licence renewed for the duration of his newly-issued I-94.  That put me off and we were doubly pleased we didn't start our trip in Florida that year as there were dreadful hurricanes at that very time we were rig seeking!

South Dakota was - and maybe will be in future - an alternative for us.  Texas insurance rates on our truck went up horrendously in 2007 and I'd like to swap homestate if it reduced those costs without incurring others.

As we spend time in AZ I'll be seeing if that might be an alternative too.

Any thoughts on either state, Mick, anyone??



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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2008, 06:28:12 AM »
Sorry macmac  :-[ it was derbyflan started this thread and asked that question..............having a bad day back in the UK 5 days before our return flight trying to obtain a couple  I-94 forms as well as make contact with a solar panel company in NY state that would be ideal if only they would their emails or messages left on their company voicemail boxes.............. ::) Perhaps they are an indication of a company NOT TO DO BUSINESS with?
Regards Mick & Pat Podmore.

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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2008, 06:52:49 AM »
Sorry macmac  :-[ it was derbyflan started this thread and asked that question..............having a bad day back in the UK 5 days before our return flight trying to obtain a couple  I-94 forms as well as make contact with a solar panel company in NY state that would be ideal if only they would their emails or messages left on their company voicemail boxes.............. ::) Perhaps they are an indication of a company NOT TO DO BUSINESS with?

No worries!  I've followed your posting about the I-94s.  If we'd had our spares over here with us I'd have sent them to you!

When we first were researching manufacturers we were seriously considering Forest River.  I emailed them repeatedly for info, telephoned them because I didn't know if my email messages were reaching them, found out that they were, emailed our requests again, got NOTHING in return!!!

Eventually I emailed expressing my disgust at their crap customer service thinking that would be that.  Then at 10.45 one night - just getting ready for bed - someone rang me form Forest River!!  I went through the same story, asked for brochures info dealers as we were making plans for buying at that time, AND STILL THEY DIDN'T SEND THE STUFF!!!

As you say above  "Perhaps they are an indication of a company NOT TO DO BUSINESS with?"  Abso-blooming-lutely.  What confidence can you have with such companies.

The final chapter was when I later met a guy in Battlement Mesa, CO, now our friend, who had bought almost the same model of trailer we had been considering.  We quickly got talking and oh, what a tale of woe he had to tell.

He had disappeared just after we arrived, gone to nearby Grand Junction for repairs because his black tank holding brackets had broken - fortunately he'd managed to tie the tank in place with steel wire so it wasn't wrecked.  He told me about the many other faults and we were glad we'd given that company the heave-ho.  Had it not been for their lack-a-daisical attitude we might bought a similar lemon....


Keith


 

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