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John Z

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2008, 09:53:20 AM »
Talked to the suncruiser dealer last night and he is not interested in budging from the 44K quote.  Claims they bought if off of consignment from the seller and that it is in too good of shape to let go for less then 44K.

do you think it's worth going back to the Adventurer dealer and ask him to fix the "rolling when in park" and the small delamination on the exterior wall?  Or is it too great a risk when there are signs of delamination?

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2008, 10:27:12 AM »
I'd keep looking.  There are so many RV's out there for sale.  It's a buyers' market.  You are spending a lot of money, I'd try to get the best I could; even if it took longer than you want.   Have you looked at private coachs for sale rather than ones on a dealer's lot? 

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2008, 12:07:18 PM »
Pretty much been looking at dealer's lots...is there a good web site for private sales?

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2008, 12:31:02 PM »
Pretty much been looking at dealer's lots...is there a good web site for private sales?

Dozens.  rvtrader.com, rvtraderonline.com, rv.net classifieds section, your local newspaper that probably has online versions, eBayMotors.com, craigslist.com for your area, etc.  Even if you don't buy from a private seller, checking out online listings are a great way to educate yourself on what's out there and current asking prices.  eBay is probably the best site for research, because you can see what the listed RV's actually sell for (if they sell at all).
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2008, 07:42:29 PM »
I'd keep looking - there is no need to accept a risky one when there are lots of good ones around.

The asking prices on the RV sales web sites will be all over the map. Private sellers start with high expectations but after some months with no sales they learn to accept reality and lower their price, or at least accept much lower offers.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2008, 09:10:42 PM »
Did you see this one listed in the forum's sale ads?  About the size you want and a Tiffin is a good coach with a great company behind it. Maybe a bit more than you wanted to spend, but it is a few years newer too. Make an offer - who knows?

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John Z

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2008, 05:21:22 PM »
thanks for the heads up, but that's a bit out of our price range.
i've been poking around on Craig's list and saw this one.... http://cnj.craigslist.org/rvs/719426363.html

any thoughts on that model?

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2008, 08:11:06 PM »
You may not want the two included campground memberships.  They have annual fees and can be impossible to get out of.  That's probably why this person is including them in the MH sale.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2008, 08:17:28 PM »
Certainly looks like a decent one, but there isn't much info on that web page. 13k miles indicates it wasn't used much, which is both good and bad news.

Don't get mislead by that Thousand Trails & Outdoor Resorts membership that is included - it isn't worth anywhere near $20k.  I recently bought a Thousand Trails membership for $2000 including the $850 transfer fee and an OR membership can be had for a similar amount. Lots of them available too. The annual fees run around $500 each, which is a bargain if you use them and a waste if you don't. There is no problem accepting them in the deal - you don't have to transfer them into your name if you don't want them.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2008, 12:55:26 PM »
agreed...i wasn't really interested in the campground memberships.

I'm going to go see it Thursday night.  Need to do some research on what things to look for.

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2008, 09:37:07 PM »
saw the rv last night and really liked it.
only discolsed issues are a slight nick in the windshield and the water pump is not working in the coach
the buyer agreed to have the water pump fixed either before the sale or will deduct from the price
they are asking 44...what do you think is a valid offer?  I was thinking around 38 and not taking the campground ownerships

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2008, 10:42:31 AM »
According to the NADA Guide (www.nadaguides.com) an 2001 Sunrise 35 footer has a range of $41k-$49.5.   I don't think that NADA reflects the current soft market, so I'd start at or below the bottom end.  If you tell him to keep the memberships and sell them separately, he ought to be willing to come down to your price.  Realistically the memberships are not worth more than about $3000 or so.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2008, 06:12:39 PM »
here we go again...when i went back today to test drive i found some delamination under the window on the driver side front.
I showed the owner and he agreed to have it taken to a shop for an estimate to repair the delaimination.
We agreed to the price of 40K and he will pay for the fix of the wall , if it's not too expensive.  I think while it is at the dealer I will pay to have the dealer check everything out before we close the deal.  sound reasonable?

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2008, 09:16:30 PM »
Sure, if you really like the rig.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2008, 05:09:14 AM »
The only 35' Sunrise I see in the NADA online guide is a 35C on a Workhorse chassis.  Low Retail is $35,370 and Average is $42,610.
Based on these numbers I would offer 10 to 15 percent less than Low Retail.

Don't get to anxious.  There are lot's of deals to be had, and the will only get better in the upcoming months.

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2008, 08:59:51 AM »
randco is right about the base value of the 2001 Sunrise, but the very low mileage rates an increase in value of $5700-$6800, thus the higher numbers I quoted earlier. While we here generally recommend against adding anything to the NADA price for options, we do agree that low mileage on a gas chassis has extra value. I'd still want to be at the very low end, though, especially in this market. I think there are going to be MANYClassA's, including newer and higher end models, available for $40k or so this year.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2008, 02:16:29 PM »
I'm thinking of not going for this unit.  Even though i feel 40K is a decent deal for such low mileage, the delamination doesn't sit good with me.  The owners agreed to get it fixed, but who knows...another bubble might be right around the corner.

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2008, 03:25:53 PM »
Zinkjo,
We just bought a 2001 Itasca Sunflyer 35U Ford V10 with 2 slides, 32000 miles about 3 months ago. I paid $45K which is in very GC. We were going to trade in our 04 Allegro 31 foot, but they won't give me a decent trade. Now, our Allegro is for sale.
I beleived the Suncruiser is very similar as the Sunflyer. We enjoyed ours very much. The last owner purchased all the options Itasca had to offer up to 7KW Onan, leather interior and all the works.
Good luck on your hunt.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2008, 05:01:54 PM »
Do I understand that correctly, that you went from an 04 Allegro to an 01 Sunflyer?  It's not too often that new is traded for old.  ;)
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2008, 07:38:12 PM »
zinkjo,
You should look at Allegroart's coach as I suggested earlier - I'll bet you could make a deal for close to what you are talking about spending and you would get a 2004 with low miles and (presumably) no warts. You are going to find warts on older coaches (though not necessarily delam) and I can see that is making you nervous.

I don't know Allegroart or have anything monetary interest in his coach - just think it is a good match for what you are looking for.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2008, 08:35:49 AM »
unfortunately he is in Florida and I'm in NJ.

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »
How bout this unit...it has a few miles on it 31K, but looks in decent shape

http://www.whitehorserv.com/inventory_item.asp?id=516689

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2008, 07:35:36 PM »
Better check this one for delam before you  get too excited about it. And check the retail book value at www.nadaguides.com too.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2008, 10:58:25 AM »
I'm sorry about advertizing here, but I couldn't help to mention to someone looking for an RV. I know it is hard decesion which one you are going to buy. I have owned two Tiffin Allegro before and they are very well-built in my opinion. The only reason we are changing to different make and model was to have the side mirrors mounted to the sides, rather than at the front of the coach. I beleived, Winnebagos and few others have this design. Other than that Tiffin is an excellent make. Here is the web link to my ad http://www.rvt.com/rvdetail3216644.htm if you want to view it. It is been in storage at the NAS Jax which is very secured facility. I hate to keep paying $50/mo storage fee and insurance. It will probably show up in eBay soon. The price is of course negotiable.
Thanks for the interest in advance.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2008, 09:43:41 PM »
It's a nice looking coach...has everything i'm looking for, but 2 problems
1) I'm in NJ
2) I'm looking in the 40K range

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2008, 07:11:45 AM »
dealer in PA just got in a 1999 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 35K with 18,000 miles.
He is looking for 39,500, but I'm guessing i could get him down a bit.  How does fleetwood compare to Winnebago/Itasca?  To this point I've pretty much been focusing on Winnie's

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2008, 08:29:02 AM »
A Pace Arrow is a top of the line gas coach - probably nicer than the Suncruiser/Sunrise you looked at.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2008, 10:33:38 AM »
dealer in PA just got in a 1999 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 35K with 18,000 miles.
He is looking for 39,500, but I'm guessing i could get him down a bit.  How does fleetwood compare to Winnebago/Itasca?  To this point I've pretty much been focusing on Winnie's

Probably way above the Itaska in my opinion.
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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2008, 11:38:32 AM »
he sent me some pics and I don't like the looks of the interior.  looks in decent shape, but the color is a shade of purple.

here are 2 that a dealer in my area has:
1999 Winnebago Adventure diesel -- 49K miles
http://www.campingworld.com/rvsales/class-a-diesel/1999/winnebago-adventure/1628433/

2000 Fleetwood Bounder -- not sure how many miles
http://www.campingworld.com/rvsales/class-a-gas/2000/fleetwood-bounder/1474196/

1999 SouthWind Southwind -- 23K miles
http://www.campingworld.com/rvsales/class-a-gas/1999/southwind-southwind/1474203/

Any thoughts on comparing the 3?

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Re: 2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V
« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2008, 02:42:35 PM »
I believe I would go with the Winnie.
My opinion... I think it's a better product.