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Re: Old Musicians
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2005, 10:30:21 PM »
Taylors are great guitars....but I traded mine for a Breedlove guitar. Probably the best sounding guitar I ever owned.
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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2005, 08:53:52 AM »
Taylors are great guitars....but I traded mine for a Breedlove guitar. Probably the best sounding guitar I ever owned.
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Thanks for sharing your music.   :D   :D  Enjoyed some of the clips.  :D.

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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2005, 10:12:28 AM »
 :) I think it's great that we have RV'ers interested in making their own Music. I still have my 1960's EKO Les Paul look-a-like that I bought in Singapore and a 12 string EROS 612 Nevada that I bought on-route through the USA in 1969. The EKO's neck has unfortunately warped and the tension bar has snapped. But the EROS is as good as the day I bought it. Apart that is from the original strings which are still fitted.  ;D I took up the Guitar again 5 years ago after we retired from Karaoke and went Full-Time RV'ing. I bought myself a Yamaha Pacifica and a small practice amp. Keep singing and playing boys. I only wish I could join you. ;)
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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2005, 10:48:26 AM »
We have a karaoke system that plays video CD format (time to upgrade) and plugs into the TV and stereo system. My many years of travelling in Asia taught me that it's a great party piece.

I've been singing since I was knee high to a coal miner and have always been able to pick up the tunes by ear, but I always regretted not being able to read music. When I sang with a barbershop chorus I was envious of the guys who could pick up a music score and blurt out a tune. So a few years ago I bought myself an electronic keyboard and a few books to teach myself to read music and even took music lessons. I picked up enough to be able to follow along on a score, but I play the keyboard about as well as I type on a PC. (My wife tells me I'm the fastest 1-finger typist she's seen.) I still haven't made the connection between what's written on a score and what comes out of my mouth though  :(
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« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2005, 10:57:21 AM »
 :D I know where you are coming from Tom. I learned to read Music at school and learned Guitar chords from a book. I could teach anyone (and have done) how to read and play from music. But can I do it myself? No way Jose'. Unless I do it a note at a time. I originally learned to play Intrumental by ear, mainly The Shadows music and went onto improvise from there. I mentioned elsewhere (I think) I have just spent 6 months burning 3000 songs from my 12" Laser Karaoke Discs onto Hard drives. I have also burned them onto DVD's too. We will be doing a Karaoke next Tuesday for the Old Folk when we visit the Mother-in-Law. I also began singing when I was as tall as a Davey Lamp (Miner's Lamp). Of course you Guy's from the Valley have an advantage. IMHO.  :D
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« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2005, 11:25:06 AM »
I learned to read Music at school

You had a big advantage. I signed up for music my first week in grammar school. They gave me a violin, I went home and played a few screeches, and was told to "get that thing out of here". That was the end of my music lessons.

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I could teach anyone (and have done) how to read and play from music.

If we ever meet up in a campground or at one of the services on the M4, you're booked!

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The Shadows music

Ah, that takes me back. Haven't heard of them in a long time, but I understand Cliff Richard is still going.

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Of course you Guy's from the Valley have an advantage.

That comes from a combination of chapel 3 times on Sunday and being forced down the pit the rest of the week by the rich coal mine owners from the other side of the Severn. The golden aera of Welsh rugby in the 70's helped a little too, especially when Wales was playing England  ;D
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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2005, 11:53:43 AM »
 :) Yes Cliff is still Singing and Touring as is Big Tom of course. If we ever meet on the M4? That will be a booking I will keep. Weslh Rubgy of the 70's? They were a good team for sure. I played against the 'All Blacks' in Singapore.  :o That was something else.  ;)
I worked down the Coal Mines for 16 1/2 years. If fact our Local Colliery is one of the few still open. Not for long though. Tha's closing too.  ???
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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2005, 12:15:59 PM »
I played against the 'All Blacks' in Singapore. :o That was something else.

That must have been a wonderful experience. Were you playing for the Barbarians or England? I attended my first game at the ripe old age of 6 months and my Dad used to take me to watch all the home games of the local club. Used to be a religion in those days.

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I worked down the Coal Mines for 16 1/2 years.

Ah, you know all too well how it was then. My Dad started in the mines when he was 12 years old. Finally had to quit when diagnosed with pneumoconiosis and start a new career. But the disease was a constant memory for the rest of his life. Hope you were able to escape its effects. Both grandfathers and all my uncles except one were coalminers and I grew up with the threat "If you don't do well in school, you're going down the pit". That was quite an incentive to pay attention in class  ;D

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our Local Colliery is one of the few still open. Not for long though.

Reminds me of a Max Boyce song from the 70's (I still know all his songs) - the first line went "In our little valley, they closed the colliery down".
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« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2005, 01:26:17 PM »
So Tom, you must have read "How Green Was My Valley" as one of your first reads?  I read it as boy from Guyana in boarding school in England sometime between 1949 and 1955.

Also, ISTR that you have a good CD collection?  Do you have CDs of the famous Welsh choirs?  What a fabulous sound, along with the brass bands. (Hmmh, a wave of nostalgia just engulfed me; methinks I'm off to locate one of mine and put it on for a play.)  Oh, and what about the Eisteddfods?  Did you attend any of those.

My connection with Welsh men singing comes mainly from an uncle of mine, with whom I spent some of my English summers, and who played in a good Salvation Army band.

Ciao,

Doug

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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2005, 01:43:15 PM »
you must have read "How Green Was My Valley"

Oh yes and also saw the original movie. A later re-make of the movie was filmed in the village where I grew up, but I've yet to see it on the screen.

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Do you have CDs of the famous Welsh choirs?

Most defintely. Also have some of them on old tapes. Wonderful harmony.

One time when I was over there on a visit, I went to a pub where one of the choirs goes after choir practice. I gave the landlord (aka bar tender) some beer money for the guys and they didn't stop singing all night. Quite an emotional moment when they stood around me in a circle and sang "Well keep a welcome in the hillsides".
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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2005, 02:47:11 PM »
when they stood around me in a circle and sang "Well keep a welcome in the hillsides"

Ah yes, now there's a song whose tune, harmonies, and words, work so well in tandem to tug at the heart strings.

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Doug

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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2005, 04:43:22 PM »
Jim Dick is holding out on you guys. He also plays the tin Whistle.

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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2005, 04:53:19 PM »
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Jim plays a lot more than the tin whistle  ;D  And pat is a great vocalist.
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« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2005, 07:34:40 AM »
When I was about 10 my mother forced me to 1 year of piano lessons. Just learned timing and enough to read a few notes. Played backup chords on piano with a highschool band once. Found the up front guitar players and singers were getting all the girls. Time to learn to play guitar and sing. I play by ear. Notes get in the way.Gotta feel it. Keep on singing and playin everyone. Shucks ....the most fun I ever had.... there was only two of us. Well, maybe 3 ...once.
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« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2005, 07:39:07 AM »
Jim Dick is holding out on you guys. He also plays the tin Whistle.

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Dave,

I play a tune on the tin whistle. Not quite the same. ;D I now have a 4 string tenor guitar that is about 100 years old. Well, maybe not that old but old. Not sure what I'll do with it. Still keeping the Dulcimer in mind. If I get one I know where to find an instructor. ;D
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« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2005, 07:43:11 AM »
Cliff,

I learned to play the pipes by sitting at the table with good pipers and listening to the tune while reading the music. Once I learned the tune I could then refresh my memory with the notes but I can't take a new piece and get the timing correct without hearing it.

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« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2005, 03:49:54 PM »
Jim,
I would think the pipes are one of the hardest instruments to play well. Keep on pickin and grinnin!
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« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2005, 05:21:53 PM »
Jim,
I would think the pipes are one of the hardest instruments to play well. Keep on pickin and grinnin!
Cliff

Cliff,

They can be difficult but once you get the breathing, blowing, squeezing, and fingering down it's pretty easy. :)
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« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2005, 04:40:13 PM »
Thanks!.....Glad you like the songs.
Cliff




Thanks for sharing your music.   :D   :D  Enjoyed some of the clips.  :D.

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« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2005, 10:03:20 AM »
Dulcimers...  We have a weekly jam in my park, (Fridays), and we have 4 ladies that play the dulcimer.  My impression is it is a nice parlor instrument for enjoyment, but in a jam, not that handy.  Maybe it is just them, but if we are not in D they can't play, and when they do a song in D, they are just difficult to accompany.  That part is probably me, but just hard to work around.

My peeve is they do songs I know, play 1 verse straight thru, end it.  No breaks, no passing it around.  Maybe in time they will learn about how jams work.  In the meantime I am just happy to have a weekly place to play.

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« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2005, 10:19:03 AM »
...they do songs I know, play 1 verse straight thru, end it. No breaks, no passing it around. Maybe in time they will learn about how jams work.

Hi Bill, any chance you could explain how a jam should work?
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« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2005, 09:40:41 PM »
Hi Bill,

We have a Dulcimer group here at TGO. I was thinking about checking it out. I just met a couple that is staying here this month. She plays the Dulcimer and Guitar. She has two Dulcimers and has offered to get me started. She also agrees that it is not a jam instrument.
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« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2005, 08:16:55 PM »
The dulcimer may not be a jam instrument in the sense that you guys are thinking of it in, BUT if
you go to any dulcimer festivals you will find jams with up to 20 or 30 or sometimes more dulcimers
playing. Both hammered and mountain. The problems I have observed with playing with other
instruments is they don't want to tone down the other instruments and they drown out the
dulcimer. There are several dulcimer and guitar groups about as well as dulcimer and autoharp groups.

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« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2005, 09:03:51 PM »
How a Jam works:
Get a number of musicians together, assorted instruments.  Usually in a jam, not performing situation, you would form an inward facing circle.  Someone picks a song, and kicks it off.  The person picking will lead it.  The verse is played, and breaks or solos are essentially passed around.  Guitar player playes a verse, does some improv based on chord structure and harnmony, then it goes back to the group and singing.  This goes around till everyone that wannts a piece of it gets a shot at it. 

In a performance jam, it usually works about the same, but we might not drag a song out as long, and we would not be in a circle. More stretched out across the front. 

I do enjoy the dulcimer and the jam haas been established as a come one come all, so I wouldn't do anything to attempt to change it.  I just get a little frustrated during their songs.  Thei portion becomes more of a recital, then back to jamming.
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« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2005, 11:31:02 PM »
Thanks for the explanation Bill.
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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2005, 05:47:49 AM »
Dave,

I found out we have a Dulicmer group at TGO. Also just met a couple from CT. She plays Dulcimer and Guitar. She has two Dulcimers and said she'd be happy to get me started. So much to do, so little time!!! :)
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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2005, 06:34:10 AM »
Jim... just say no... (G),  get a banjo!  Get something you can play alone or with others.  Wait, you play pipes, you need to play the banjo. the pipes of stringed instruments!
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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2005, 12:13:15 PM »
Bill,

The Banjo has always interested me but I doubt my fingers will do what's necessary to play. :) I know how that banjo reproduction works. I've seen it with friends. Heck, I have two tin whistles!! :)
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« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2005, 12:48:45 PM »
Jim,

Just stay away from the Chatahoochie River in Georgia ;D
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« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2005, 07:37:58 PM »
So long as you can keep up on the banjo you will be just fine.

BTW, that is a fun song to play.
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