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carson

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Storage bay courtesy lights
« on: December 26, 2008, 03:06:49 PM »
   I have 3 storage bays with courtesy lights (1141 bulbs) but they will not turn on with the slide switch on each lamp. I remember having them work some time ago. I checked the bulbs and looked for fuses. no go...

   The Porch light and the Service light on the port side work ok.  What am I missing?

Under what condition are they supposed to be operational? I tried on chassis power and on house power ...no luck.

   Any ideas anyone?  My manual makes no mention of them.

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2008, 03:34:16 PM »
Two possibilities come to mind Carson:

Do you have a switch inside the coach?

Do the bay doors have switches? If so, look for possible wires pulled off the switch(es).
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2008, 04:04:18 PM »
Thanks, Tom

  I have eliminated those possibilities.. no switch inside and no door switches. The lights worked before in a strictly manual mode... slide the bar on the lamp, same as all my other lamps inside the RV. The only switch inside is for the porch light. With that turned on still no light in the bays.

   But now that the Solstice is over I might not need lights in the next few months.. ;D

  I need an illuminating idea for this major problem.  :D

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2008, 04:08:08 PM »
My bounder has a master switch by the entry door that controls the luggage bay lights.  They can be turned on/off at each individual light as long as this switch is on.

They are also the only thing on ckt. 12 in my DC fuse panel.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2008, 04:37:45 PM »
Lou, you may be onto something..

  I have 3 switches near my entry door. 1 is the auto-step on'off. the second is the inside dome-light, the third is the patio/porch outside light.

  I may have to recheck switch two and three to see if I have missed them. I think I checked all possibilities but you have put a doubt in my mind. Manana...

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2008, 04:52:37 PM »
Winnebago buddies, where are you?
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2008, 04:54:10 PM »
I share that doubt.  I have the same scenario and am convinced there is a switch just inside the door.  We head out for AZ tomorrow and somewhere on the road I will check mine.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2008, 05:25:00 PM »
George, geodrake, do you run a Winnebago?
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2008, 06:17:16 PM »
Yep, It is a 2002 Itasca Sunrise.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2008, 06:22:43 PM »
Good stuff, George. Put it in your signature line below your post. I hope you are proud of your unit.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2008, 08:37:00 PM »
Winnebago buddies, where are you?
We're here!  My bay lights have not given me a problem other than a compartment switch or a wonky bulb.  Email Winnebago at:  or@winnebagoind.com and ask them for your wiring diagram and give it a look-over.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2008, 09:36:27 AM »
Carson,
How about a lowly fuse for the bay lights circuit? Must be one somewhere...
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2008, 09:41:40 AM »
Gary, yep, that was my first thought. I looked in the most likely spot (Fuse panel under dash console) maybe even at the distribution box. The Chassis part is not labeled so I think I'll check each one separately. Will do that today.

Should know a little later today; will post the results.

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2008, 11:11:52 AM »
The Chassis part is not labeled so I think I'll check each one separately.

Carson, that's why the coach wiring schematic that John mentioned is so important.  If you can get one with a simple e-mail you should go for it.  You will need to provide them your Make, Model, Year, VIN and Fin.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2008, 02:21:44 PM »
Courtesy light problem fixed....

  Thank you for all the helpful ideas presented.

  Here is what I did today: Checked every likely fuse in the RV. (There are 4 "LAMP" fuses on the power distribution center) We are talking automotive fuses-12VDC-, all were ok. All lights worked everywhere in the RV, except in the cargo bays.

   Since I had 3 cargo bay lights that did not work, I proceeded to check each bulb (1141), all ok.

To trace the wiring would be impossible, so I abandoned that idea. My final step was to use my technical logic..... What if the switches were not working? I proceeded to move the sliding switches back and forth multi times, like 20 times. (see pix below for type of lamp). After many tries I saw the light flickering, which meant there was power there. (Nothing special had to be activated inside the RV).

  Eventually, after doing the same to the other switches, they all came to life. Note: these switches had not been used for some time --5 years-- hence corrosion/oxidization of the sliding wipers of the switch was the probable the cause.

   How to fix it?  I chose to spray WD-40 into the  areas around the switch parameters hoping that enough would penetrate to do same good. The alternative would be to remove the lights and get into the innards. I did not feel it was worth the effort, because I am a believer in WD-40 for almost everything electrical and other things.

   I am now confident that that major  :) problem is fixed. Sometimes the simple things work.

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2008, 02:41:15 PM »
Carson, just one more of the benefits of living in the humid SE.

You can pop those lenses out and get better access to the moving parts of the switch.

Congrats! on the fix.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2008, 03:00:57 PM »
I had the lenses out, did not seem to more accessible. Whatever...

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2008, 03:20:37 PM »
Good job! 

It would still be a good idea to have your wiring diagrams on hand, though.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2008, 03:20:52 PM »
Maybe I misspoke.  My lamps do look a little different than yours.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2008, 03:50:40 PM »
John C.

  I am glad I fixed the problem.. Re: wiring diagrams? What do you think the chances are that The big W would have accurate prints for my 1995 Adventurer? On a scale 0f 1-10, what do you think?

   I pretty well know the rig by now except for oxidized switches.  ;)

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2008, 03:57:20 PM »
Carson; It turns out I have a switch just inside the door of my Itasca.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2008, 04:03:13 PM »
Fleetwood just e-mailed me pdf copies of my coach electrical diagrams (coach, chassis, slide, 12v and 120v) complete with wire harness routing.  They also included heating, cooling, fresh water and drain plumbing diagrams.  My coach is a '97 so I would expect they winny still have yours on file.  Include the data I referenced in my earlier post.

To my surprise, they even included shees showing wire loom locations in the ceiling and walls.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2008, 05:27:04 PM »
You can get manuals and diagrams for Winnebago products as far back as 1997 through the Winnebago web site:  http://www.winnebagoind.com/resources/manuals/.  Perhaps they have earlier models available upon request.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2008, 06:03:12 PM »
You can get manuals and diagrams for Winnebago products as far back as 1997 through the Winnebago web site:  http://www.winnebagoind.com/resources/manuals/.  Perhaps they have earlier models available upon request.

Years ago, I was able to get a copy of the coach and chassis wiring diagrams for my 1993 Itasca Suncruiser. They sent me copies of the appropriate pages of their manuals. Over the years they sure have been handy. I got mine with a phone call rather than online. With the cost cutting measures Winnebago has implemented, they may have elected not to send out copies any more--pretty labor intensive.

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2008, 06:33:23 PM »
Thank you, all,  for the tips. My little problem has been solved.
  If I need more detailed info from Winnebago, I'll take your advise.

Tom, is this article worth a spot on the "Hints, Tricks etc" post?

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2008, 06:42:20 PM »
It probably is Carson, but I'm still trying to figure out what the fix was, i.e. did the WD40 make the switches easier to slide, or did WD40 somehow "clean" the contacts? The latter somehow seems counter intuitive, since WD40 would likely leave an oily residue on the contacts, and they wouldn't pass any current (and the lights wouldn't work). Obviously, I'm in need of some enlightenment.
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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2008, 08:26:05 PM »
What do you think the chances are that The big W would have accurate prints for my 1995 Adventurer?

I think your chances are really good of them having documentation for your unit.  Give them a try.
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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2008, 10:26:40 AM »
Tom, I think it is quite easy to explain.

   The sliding contacts in each lamp were obviously corroded/oxidized from long term inaction.

   Contact was restored by operating the switch slider multiple times. There was no WD-40 involved at this time.

   After I determined that the switch operation was reliable, I then sprayed a bit of WD-40 into it to provide a touch of lubrication and cleaning. The insulation effect by a mist of spray on the contacts would be negligible. I have used the -40 many times on electrical work, contacts, switches etc. with absolutely no effect on conductivity.

   Hope this helps.


   John, yes I will check into that with WGO.

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Re: Storage bay courtesy lights
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2008, 10:55:32 AM »
Thanks Carson, that makes perfect sense. I missed/misread when/where the WD40 was applied in your earlier message.
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