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Brief trip north
« on: August 07, 2005, 12:43:32 PM »
We put our overseas visitors off at SFOThursday afternoon then finished loading the coach. Headed out Friday morning on a brief trip to Oregon and Washington. The first leg was 360 miles and we Spent the first couple of nights at Phoenix, OR. The Holiday RV Park there isn't much to write home about, although they have good ratings in the CG directories. The "stream fishing" is also non-existent; They told me the stream is polluted and I wish they'd change their ads to say that.

Yesterday was a day trip to Crater Lake. It hasn't changed much since we were there 18 or so years ago, but there were lots more tourists. Checked out a few campgrounds on the way - NF and state parks. We wouldn't fit in a NF CG but the SP we visited had sites up to 80 feet and the surroundings are much nicer than the private park we stayed at.

It was 104o yesterday. Hopefully it will cool down as we go further north.

We are now back on I-5 headed north on our way to Eugene/Coberg for a couple of nights. Our measuring appointment at Davis Cabinets is tomorrow morning. This leg is only 200 miles.
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2005, 02:28:29 PM »
Hi Tom,

We'll have to keep that SP in mind. I want to see Crater Lake someday. Unfortunately we've only been up that way when there's snow. :)

Wish I knew of some good restaurants to recommend but the one we knew, the Vault, has changed hands and isn't the same. Food isn't bad but the atmosphere isn't as nice as it used to be. It's in Harrisburg and used to be a bank, hence the name the Vault. You used to be able to eat in one of the vaults. Nice private area. :) The Vault is on the same street as the post office.

There is a decent restaurant for breakfast but I don't remember the name. It, too, is in Harrisburg on Rt. 99 on the right hand side. I believe the young lady in the office knows the name.




 
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2005, 03:09:24 PM »
OK thanks Jim. I'm BBQ'ing tonight, but we'll check out the restaurants for other meals/days.

BTW the SP was called Joeseph Jackson SP. Recollections from our prior trip say that all the SPs in OR are quite nice.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2005, 05:09:58 PM »
Tom,

From what little I've seen the State Parks in OR are nice.

BTW, the former Vault is now owned by a hunter. Quite a few mounted heads but not as many as the bar where you took us. :)

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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2005, 08:19:58 PM »
We're staying two nights at Premier RV Resorts in Coburg (the place Russ recommended). This is a nice park but, when we arrived, they'd given our reservation away and there was no room at the inn. They eventually gave us a small site (compared to all the others) and it's in the slow lane of the freeway. But we're glad they found us a site.

Took a ride over to the Monaco Coburg plant and the Harrisburg service center, just to check out where they are. Also drove to Davis Cabinets in Junction City, so we know where to go  in the morning.

Visited a couple of dealers and looked at new coaches. We really liked the 45 foot quad slide Essex by Newmar. Tomorrow we get to look at the Marathon Prevosts.
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2005, 08:56:52 PM »
This morning we made our measuring appointment at Davis Cabinets in Junction City. Met with the owner Shaun Davis - what a neat guy to do business with. He also gave me an additional 30 minutes of his time telling me where to go fishing, techniques and fly patterns. Several other coaches were there, either for measurement or installation.

This afternoon we got to see some Marathon Prevosts and tour the Marathon plant in Coburg. I'm sold! Later we looked at several new Monaco and Holiday Rambler models at the Monaco factory.

Tomorrow we leave for Newport, on the OR coast.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2005, 09:11:15 PM »
Tom,

We thought you would be impressed with Shaun.  He is really good at his trade.  I know you will be pleased with his work.

Have a great time.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2005, 09:14:31 PM »
Thanks Ron. I've seen enough examples of Shaun's work to be confident he'll do a great job. I'll be posting before and after photos when he's done.
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2005, 09:15:49 PM »
Tom,

We are liooking forward to your post on this project.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2005, 05:57:04 AM »
Tom,

When you return for your cabinets you can always tour the Country Coach Prevost conversion factory. Then you can compare the two.

As Ron said, you won't be disappointed in Shaun's work. We sure aren't. :)

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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2005, 07:51:26 AM »
Hi Jim,

Where is the Country Coach Prevost factory? I'm not sure I could take another day of drooling though  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2005, 06:49:58 PM »
I've been slow to update this discussion with the remainder of the trip.

Attached are a couple of photos from our prior day trip to Crater Lake.

After leaving Coburg, OR, our next stop was Pacific Shores Outdoors Resorts in Newport, OR. Marathon Coach owns some sites here and, while touring the Marathon plant in Coburg, we picked up a couple of half price coupons for this resort. The park is located on a bluff looking over the Pacific. 20 miles north is Depoe Bay, a small harbor with a very interesting entrance. They also have their share of tourist/t-shirt shops.

Next stop was the Astoria/Seaside KOA, near the mouth of the Columbia river. I'm not a big fan of KOAs, but the state park across the street was full, thanks to the opening of the "buoy 10" fishing season. Although this KOA has a number of paved sites, we had to settle for a couple of dirt sites.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2005, 06:59:42 PM »
Tom, nice looking lake.  Weren't there any fish in it?
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2005, 07:12:27 PM »
On to the Columbia River RV Park at Portland, OR. A clean park under the flight path of a nearby military airport. The Portland Yacht Club is within walking distance, as is the Columbia river.

A visit to the Bonneville Dam hydroelectric project was well worth the trip. In addiiton to exhibits and videos, they have a fish ladder with observation windows where you can see salmon and various other species of fish making their way upriver.

A day trip along the Columbia river gorge revealed a number of waterfalls. For the hikers, there's a great trail that runs along the hillside with spectacular bridges over some of the falls. A 2-hour trip up and down the Columbia on a sternwheeler provided more spectacular views.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2005, 07:13:53 PM »
Weren't there any fish in it?

The photos are deceiving; That lake is a long way down and I'm not sure if fishing is allowed even if we could get down there.
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2005, 07:40:16 PM »
Next stop - the Columbia Riverfront RV Park in Woodland, WA. This park lives up to its name in addition to being a nice park. Looking out the windshield of the coach we observed fishing boats and large ships travelling up and down the river.

We came up to WA in search of some stream fishing, but the Columbia is a little bigger than a stream. We were wishing we'd brought the bass boat along.

We took a drive up to the north fork of the Lewis River, approx 55 miles from the campground.  FWIW this is one way to Mount St. Helens. Wonderful scenery and some great trout fishing spots on the river and other streams. We passed several pictureque lakes on the way. We also checked out a couple of small private campgrounds, a National Forest CG and a power company CG, hoping to camp closer to fishing; They were either full or couldn't accomodate our coaches.

Next, back to Oregon. Yesterday we pulled into the Kah-Nee-Ta resort on the Warm Springs Reservation. Another nice, clean CG, but getting here was a bit of a white knuckle drive over narrow and very twisty mountain roads. The resort has a golf course and casino, although we don't play golf or gamble. The CG is in a small valley and there's no cell or GPRS service. so last night I put up the DW dish.

Yesterday afternoon I checked out the local fishing on the Upper Deschutes River. I bought a 1-week state fishing licence and a 1-day reservation fishing permit. Fished for an hour on the reservation side of the river late yesterday. This morning I left around 6.00am and headed to the state side of the river. It's a 15 mile drive from the CG. Had a great morning fishing and caught some nice rainbows. I use barbless hooks and practice catch-and-release, so no fish photos.

While looking for a place to buy a fishing licence yesterday, we stumbled upon a fly fishing shop called The Riffle Fly Shop, hidden from the highway near Warm Springs. The shop has a small campground that could easily accomodate our coaches. It's also a hop, skip and a jump from the river. I was very tempted, but our travelling companions don't fish.
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2005, 10:36:25 PM »
On to the Columbia River RV Park at Portland, OR. A clean park under the flight path of a nearby military airport. The Portland Yacht Club is within walking distance, as is the Columbia river.

A visit to the Bonneville Dam hydroelectric project was well worth the trip. In addiiton to exhibits and videos, they have a fish ladder with observation windows where you can see salmon and various other species of fish making their way upriver.

A day trip along the Columbia river gorge revealed a number of waterfalls. For the hikers, there's a great trail that runs along the hillside with spectacular brides over some of the falls. A 2-hour trip up and down the Columbia on a sternwheeler provided more spectacular views.

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     Those falls are Multnomah Falls.  Sorry about that.

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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2005, 10:51:21 PM »
You may be right Ron and I might have got the photos mixed up. If I haven't mixed them up again, here's Wahkeena and Horsetail falls.
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2005, 10:39:39 PM »
A few photos of Kah-Nee-Ta resort on the Warm Springs, OR reservation.
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2005, 11:52:08 PM »
We're slowly working our way back towards Junction City and Harrisburg. Today we pulled into the Crown Villa RV Resort in Bend, OR. This is definitely one of the nicest, cleanest RV parks I've stayed in, although it's a little pricey. Someone occupied our site the night before, and they asked us if we'd mind wating while they "cleaned the site".

Each of the large sites is comprised of cobble stones (aka small pavers) on which the RV stands, well-manicured grassy areas, and adjacent blacktop for toad parking. Lots of pine trees, so I would imagine that pine needles and sap might be an issue. Satellite is tough, but they have free cable and free WiFi.

This afternoon we checked out the nearby stretch of the Deschutes river and I'm ready to go fishing early in the morning.
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2005, 05:32:49 AM »
Tom,

Sounds like a nice spot. Will have to keep that in mind for our next trip to the northwest.

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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2005, 08:29:28 AM »
Tom,

When do you go back to Shauns to get your caninets installed?  Looking forward to some photos.
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2005, 03:38:42 PM »
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Shaun does the installation this coming Thursday. We have the 'before" pics, just waiting for the finished product to take the "after" pics.
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2005, 04:35:18 PM »
Tom,

Looking forward to the photos.
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2005, 07:59:04 PM »
I'm looking forward to the product  ;D
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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2005, 10:06:37 PM »
Had a couple of mornings fishing the Deschutes river near Bend, OR. This stretch of the river gets a lot of fishing pressure and it's also late in the season. The combination of these two means that the big fish are spooked and the only fish that can be easily enticed to grab a fly are relatively small. But the scenery and the ability to "wet a line" made this worthwhile.

Probably the best way to fish the Deschutes is via a float boat. However, you're not allowed to fish the Deschutes while floating, and have to pull over and get out of the boat when you're ready to cast a fly or lure.
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2005, 10:26:20 PM »
This morning we visited a Beaver dealership in Bend and checked out the 40 and 42 foot Patriot Thunder and Marquis. The Marquis wins hands down and we took a test drive. We're going to check out the 45 foot at the factory in Coburg. The salesman was quite unique - he used to be the warranty and service manager for Beaver in Bend for 19 years before Monaco moved manufacturing to Coburg. This guy was very knowledgeable and not full of the usual salesman useless "tell 'em what they want to hear".

We then headed over the Cascades, planning to stop at either McKenzie Bridge or Blue River so I could fish the McKenzie River. It turns out that the river flows quite fast in these areas, and was not conducive to wading. So we kept going and are now back at Premier RV Resort near Coburg, OR.

The trip over the mountain was uneventful but spectacular. There was still snow on some of the peaks, as you can see from the photo I took from the navigator's seat.

When we stopped at Blue River I talked with a lady who was born there, but now lives in southern Arizona. She was taking photos of her birthplace. Interestingly, she was of Scottish descent and a couple of years ago had taken a trip to Scotland, Wales and Ireland. She'd been to the small North Wales town that has the second longest place name in the world (I used to think it was the longest, but found out a couple of years ago that a town in New Zealand has a name that's a couple of characters longer): Llanffairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwindrorbethllandysiliogogogoch and she was quite excited that I could pronounce it. She'd also visited actor Richard Burton's birthplace, a half mile from where I grew up.
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« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2005, 08:22:43 AM »
Tom,

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Llanffairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwindrorbethllandysiliogogogoch

Does that have a translation of sorts??

Great picture, but doesn't the 'pilot' know you're not supposed to drink and drive?? ;D
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« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2005, 09:08:25 AM »
Howdy, Tom.

Thanks for sharing your trip. The photos are gorgeous and Jack is drooling!! 

Marathon does a good Prevost conversion. I was told that they will build a double sidewall coach if desired. We looked at Royale, Country Coach and Liberty conversions. But I didn't like the CC's cabinets.

Thanks again,
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« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2005, 11:41:31 AM »
Does that have a translation of sorts??

Yes it does. All place names in Wales are descriptive and typically have several words strung together. Another clue - the grammar is similar to French e.g. noun first, followed by adjective. The first word is "llan", which translates to church. The last word is "goch", which translates to red. Oh, I forgot, the first letter of some Welsh words mutate under certain circumatances. The Welsh word for red is "coch", which in this case mutates to "goch". Now you can figure the rest out  ;D

I wonder why the name is often abbreviated to "Llanffair P G"  :)

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LOL Karl. After posting that, I just knew someone would comment. Was going to go back and crop the photo, but was too tired.
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« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2005, 11:49:36 AM »
Hi Liz,

Glad you like the photos. Tell Jack I'm sorry if they make him drool. I'm wishing our trip was much longer (so I could do more fishing), but it was planned around friends' schedules and some appointments we made for work on the coach were driving our return to Coburg.

Didn't realize Marathon would build a double walled coach. The sales guy might have mentioned it, but I was too busy drooling   :)
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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2005, 06:38:43 PM »
Well, Tom, You didn't come far enough north :).  Also, this is not fly fishing.

We just spent a weekend (family reunion--sons, their families and our grandchildren) in Porpoise Bay campground, about 5km away from where we live.

Less than 100 yards to the right of the boat is a salmon spawning river.  They tell me, me not being a fisherman, that the salmon fishing from a boat such as that in the picture can be quite good.

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PS:  The picture resized with the XP resizer didn't come down under the 256K limit, so in the end it's not attached.

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« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2005, 08:32:39 PM »
Doug

We had hoped to come further north, but had to eliminate that part of the trip when our visitors extended their vacation by a week (so we left home a week later than planned).

Sorry about the size limit. Your resizer whould be able to make it fit.
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2005, 01:30:29 AM »
OK, here's another try on the pic--used photoshop to save it as a JPEG--I think the resizer didn't work because I was applying it to my hardcopy TIFF version of the file.

Yes, You had explained earlier why you had to turn around before hitting the 49th--I was just intending to rag on you in a friendly manner :).

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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2005, 06:22:39 AM »
Thanks for the photo Doug.

I was just intending to rag on you in a friendly manner

I know  ;D  and I was just lamenting the fact that we had an involuntary late start to the trip.
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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2005, 12:23:09 PM »
Tom:

Too bad you couldn't get further north in WA. This is the only place we have been in the past 7 weeks that the temps have stayed in the 70's most of the time, a couple of days in the low eighties and one day Seattle broke another record at 90. 8) 8) 8)

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2005, 12:35:25 AM »
I checked out access to the Mckenzie and Willamette rivers in and around Coburg, OR. The Lane County park provides a convenient place to park and easy access to the Mckenzie, although I suspect it gets a lot of pressure on weekends. The park charges $3 for day use. Several other river access routes listed in guide books appear to have been blocked by new development/construction.

Following a couple of nights at Premier RV Resort in Coburg and a night of dry camping at Camp Davis in Junction City, today was installation day for our new desk and cabinets. Click here for details and photos.

While in Junction City we checked out the Country Coach Magna and Affinity models. They're nice coaches, with Affinity probably on a par with Newmar's Essex and Monaco's Signature. In this price range, the Beaver Marquis is still our favorite, second only to the Marathon Prevost of course  ;D

We're staying the night at Diamond Hill RV Park in Harrisburg, down the road from the Monaco service center. Not the best park we've stayed at, but it's close to Monaco and the price was right ($20/night). Their only discount is Good Sam, but I don't think several years of continuous junk mail is worth the GS discount.

We'll move to Camp Monaco tomorrow to await our Monday appointment for warranty work on the coach.
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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2005, 05:57:54 AM »
Tom,

I feel the same way as you about the GS mail but we rejoined and have not received any junk mail. Pat had an 800 number which she called a few years ago. We have not received any mail since then. Seems they even forgot to send us the renewal application! ;D
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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2005, 09:59:04 AM »
I am so impressed with Good Sam since Affinity took them over that if we were not already  lifetime members we wouldn't be members at all.  We became Lifetime members before Affinity got in the mix.

We started getting some VIP junk mail here in MT this year but haven't had any since I called Sue Bray again.
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« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2005, 11:19:03 AM »
We could sign up for Good Sam's mail forwarding and tell them to NOT forward anything from Affinity. ::)

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« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2005, 03:51:17 PM »
We drove all of 5 miles this morning and arrived in Camp Monaco just before noon. Check-in was quick and extremely courteous. We're all set up for the weekend and will be ready for our service appointment Monday morning. Fortunately, although this place is out in the boonies, I have a good GPRS signal and am obviously able to get online.
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« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2005, 03:53:47 PM »
In time for cocktails?

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« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2005, 04:02:11 PM »
LOL Jeff, noon is a little early for cocktails. Chris went shopping so I have a little time to myself.
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« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2005, 04:09:36 PM »
Tom:

We have friends with a La Palma that has been down to Camp Monaco several times for warranty work.

They do not like to talk about all the repeat trips for discrepencies but talk about the "free" lunch and cocktail time while they are there. :)

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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2005, 04:21:30 PM »
Jeff

This is our first time to the Harrisburg, OR facility but we were in the Elkhart, IN facility a year ago. This was our last chance to get stuff done under the Monaco warranty, so we made the appointment to fit in with the trip.

I don't care about the free lunch (or BBQ), but they sure know how to treat their customers. They wouldn't let us leave IN until we were happy with the coach. When they tore up floor tiles to replace them, they put us up in a hotel on their dime. I didn't sense the same treatment when we walked into the Country Coach Customer Care facility yesterday.
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« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2005, 06:17:40 PM »
If your service appointment is anything like we experience at American Coach you will be highly pleased.  Have a good time up there and don't forget to look for a chair. ;D
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2005, 04:23:30 PM »
Jeff

This is our first time to the Harrisburg, OR facility but we were in the Elkhart, IN facility a year ago. This was our last chance to get stuff done under the Monaco warranty, so we made the appointment to fit in with the trip.

I don't care about the free lunch (or BBQ), but they sure know how to treat their customers. They wouldn't let us leave IN until we were happy with the coach. When they tore up floor tiles to replace them, they put us up in a hotel on their dime. I didn't sense the same treatment when we walked into the Country Coach Customer Care facility yesterday.

Tom,

Just to be fair to CC, when we had our galley countertop replaced, they put us up in, I believe, the Marriot Courtyard in Springfield. We had asked for the motel in town but they insisted we go to the courtyard. Since they were paying the bill, we agreed. :)

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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2005, 05:34:13 PM »
Hi Jim,

I'm sure CC treats their customers well, or they wouldn't have the repeat business they enjoy. It just seemed strange to be told at the HQ to go to the Customer Care Center to have a sales person show us coaches and, when we get there, the first reaction was "go visit the dealer down the street". When I explained I wouldn't buy another coach from that dealer, they called a sales guy. Even when we asked him for a brochure, the reaction was "they're on the wall over there somewhere".

Quite a difference when we walked into Monaco unannounced; They were falling over themselves to show us any coaches we wanted to see, answer any questions and readily provided brochures. Even Marathon, where it was clear we were tire kickers, the factory folks went out of their way to make us welcome, show us coaches and provide all the brochures we wanted.
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2005, 06:28:37 AM »
Hi Jim,

I'm sure CC treats their customers well, or they wouldn't have the repeat business they enjoy. It just seemed strange to be told at the HQ to go to the Customer Care Center to have a sales person show us coaches and, when we get there, the first reaction was "go visit the dealer down the street". When I explained I wouldn't buy another coach from that dealer, they called a sales guy. Even when we asked him for a brochure, the reaction was "they're on the wall over there somewhere".

Quite a difference when we walked into Monaco unannounced; They were falling over themselves to show us any coaches we wanted to see, answer any questions and readily provided brochures. Even Marathon, where it was clear we were tire kickers, the factory folks went out of their way to make us welcome, show us coaches and provide all the brochures we wanted.

Sounds like they have changed since we owned a CC. I know there has been a big shakeup recently with Bob Lee coming back as CEO. I wasn't impressed with him when we met but we were treated well by the Customer Care folks.

When doing the tour at American Coach, they have you sit in a conference room where all the brochures are available and the guide goes over the information on the product. Then they take you on a tour with headsets so you don't miss anything being said. It's pretty noisy on the line as I'm sure it is in all plants. If there are some finished coaches in the yard they usually let you look at them.

I may have to do the tour at Allegro someday. I've done the PDI on a few Phaetons and am impressed with the improvement over the past couple of years. They still use paper faced wood for the cabinet structure but there's quite a bit of real wood as well. The coach rides well and is very quiet. Unfortunately the price is up there around $200K.

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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2005, 07:39:55 AM »
Then they take you on a tour with headsets so you don't miss anything being said.

They did that at the Monaco coach factory in Indiana, although it was only Chris and I on the tour. They didn't use headsets on the Roadmaster chassis tour, but I just made sure I stayed close to the guide to be sure I could hear. In the latter case, the guy was a (very knowledgeable) guy off the line and he had no problem making himself heard.
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2005, 03:03:12 PM »
Tom,

I think all tours should use headsets. Many of us have a very difficult time hearing the tour guide. :) The first time I ran into this was at the Wooly Mamoth site in SD. They didn't use headsets but had a bank of telephone handsets at each station. You just picked up the set and could hear everything very clearly.

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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2005, 09:24:35 PM »
When we arrived at Camp Monaco Friday noon the place was almost empty. After 3.00pm, as the techs were finishing up for the day and moved coaches back to the campground, it got to approx half full. Starting yesterday (Sat), lots more coaches came in and the place is pretty close to full. I hope they don't all have the same appointment time tomorrow  ;D
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #52 on: August 30, 2005, 10:07:30 PM »
When we arrived at Camp Monaco Friday noon the place was almost empty. After 3.00pm, as the techs were finishing up for the day and moved coaches back to the campground, it got to approx half full. Starting yesterday (Sat), lots more coaches came in and the place is pretty close to full. I hope they don't all have the same appointment time tomorrow  ;D

Whenever we have an appointment at Camp American Coach I try to arrive on Friday afternoon. All the units being released that day are usually on their way and most units due for the next week haven't arrived. It's really amazing how many come in especially on Sunday!

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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2005, 10:36:17 PM »
I'll make sure I arrive Friday again next time I come Jim. There are a dozen or so coaches dry camping and waiting for campsites to come free. Some of those folks are not happy campers. This really is a big service facility; They have 42 bays and also work on some coaches outside when the bays are all full. This is the old Safari plant that was converted to a service facility. They apparently do a lot of extended service contract work in addition to warranty stuff.
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2005, 05:47:01 AM »
Tom,

I can't remember how many bays AC has but it's quite a few. They also have a separate building which is the paint shop. In the main facility you are allowed to stay in your rig if you aren't going to be in the way of the techs. In the paint shop you must leave the coach.

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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2005, 05:30:09 AM »
We'd planned on being home in time to participate in an on-the-water event this weekend. Instead, we're going to be here at Camp Monaco for another week. Hopefully the mechanical and electrical stuff will be complete today, but our sofa is being re-upholstered next week.

Monaco has a concierge on site and organizes all kinds of entertainment every day. The ladies have a craft group going which is helping to keep Chris busy. I took a tour of the cabinet shop and have attended a few seminars. Yesterday we had an informative Q&A session with a Cummins Northwest guy. Last night he emailed me a copy of a handout and I've asked for permission to upload it here.

I try not to get in the tech's way, but I've been making sure I understand what he's working on, progress and results. I'm also ensuring the tech understands what I need done, rather than relying on notes made by a service writer. Next week I guess we can go back to sightseeing and I might get some fishing in.
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« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2005, 05:56:09 AM »
Sounds like Monaco makes sure they keep everyone busy and not thinking about their coach. :) I see too many people just sitting around the waiting room day after day. There are things to do around the area but many don't seem to want to move. We try to get out to other areas to see what is around.

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« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2005, 12:04:39 PM »
There are things to do around the area but many don't seem to want to move.

That's what we see Jim. Chris and I did the tourist spots during the first few weeks of the trip, but there are still lots of places we haven't been.
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« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2005, 10:19:06 PM »
That's what we see Jim. Chris and I did the tourist spots during the first few weeks of the trip, but there are still lots of places we haven't been.

So many places, so little time. :)
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #59 on: September 10, 2005, 07:29:57 AM »
Finally got all our stuff done at the service center and are headed home this morning. Two weeks here was too long for us. With half the techs gone to the Beaver rally this week, I thought we might be stuck here another week. But I figured I'd be the squeaky wheel and they got the last thing complete an hour before the techs left for the weekend.

The newly re-upholstered sofa looks good (I'll snap a photo later). Chris coordinated the color with the rest of the decor and she's a happy camper.

I hear the stripers in the CA Delta have grown significantly the last few weeks, so I'm eager to get back on the water.
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« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2005, 10:40:42 AM »
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I don't know how, but the stripers have figured out how to tell just when I get the steaks on the grill.  That's when they come by my dock.
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #61 on: September 10, 2005, 05:28:20 PM »
I'm looking forward to launching the Tracker and chasing them around the bays. Hope you topped off the gas tank and recharged the deep cycle battery  ;D

We hit the road at 7.00am and, around 2.30pm, decided to stay the night at a CG by the Sacramento River in Redding.
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« Reply #62 on: September 13, 2005, 09:29:02 PM »
The CG just south of Redding was JGW RV Park (800-469-5910), a very clean and newish park. Dead level concrete pads, grass on one side and rocks on the other. Sites were plenty long enough for the coach and the Suburban with or without unhitching. Adjacent sites were far enough apart to avoid the feeling of being right next to your neighbor. The CG is next to the Sacramento River but, since we came in Saturday afternoon, all the river view sites were taken. The CG also has free WiFi, but I found that it kept dropping me and I was having to log back in periodically.

Discounts available include AAA and an additional $2 for cash.
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« Reply #63 on: September 13, 2005, 09:31:09 PM »
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Sounds like one to put in our books for our next trip to CA, whenever that happens. :)
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Re: Brief trip north
« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2005, 09:45:30 PM »
Arrived home Sunday afternoon and unloaded the coach. It comes out faster than it went in.

Monday morning I washed the coach and put it away in the storage lot. We then spent a couple of hours checking out storage lots for our fishing boat trailer - see this message for an explanation of the reason. Finally settled on the lot where we store the coach - they had only two slots left.

The combination of local farmers ploughing their fields and some apparently high winds had covered everything in a thick layer of peat dirt while we were away. So my next job was to wash the deck and the docks so we could step outside. Monday evening I decided to start washing the boat. That peat dirt and a lot of bird poop combined to make me want to cry. I finished the job this morning. Having to use a soft brush vs just a hose gave me one clue and having to use boat soap vs just plain water was my second clue that the old tub is getting ready for another wax job.

This afternoon I started waxing with my favorite TreWax (aka a heavy carnuba paste wax). This is going to take at least a week, a far cry from the couple of hours it takes us to apply a liquid wax to the coach.

But it's nice to be home  ;D
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« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2005, 09:50:38 PM »
Yes JIm, it's a nice park. I just modified my prior message to correct the name and add their phone number. They're actually on the same road as the Sacramento River RV Park. I meant to go over there to check them out before we left Redding, but we were in a hurry to get home.
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