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Barb

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Re: The Journey begins!
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2005, 10:09:06 AM »
I don't think it's a female thing. Frank does the same thing. We turn off the voice too.
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Re: The Journey begins!
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2005, 11:58:38 AM »
Bernie,
That kinda defeats a major reason for having the Garmin! ;D

Jim

Not quite, I just have to look at the map display more often. Sometimes Marlene will let me turn Hilda on when we are in unfamiliar territory just to keep my attention on the road and warn me of basck to back turns.
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Re: The Journey begins!
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2005, 03:52:48 PM »
Bernie,

Attention to the road is always good. :)
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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2005, 01:13:37 AM »
Anyone tried the new 2720?  It looks awesome.  Also looks like they omitted the 2710 version, and offer only the preloaded maps now.  Works for me!  But I will stick with the 2620 for now.  Especially as I had to buy a new laptop today.

Which leads to why I have been "off the air" the past week.

We are now in Rapid City SD and having a grand time.  We decided to stay here at Happy Holidays RV Resort for 8 days.  We will depart for Sam's camp this coming Sunday.  Have oodles of photos of Rushmore, Needles Highway, Deadwood, etc but will have to wait to upload them until we get the new laptop going.  Goodness how I hate the conversion process to a new pc.

We lost Internet capability when we ran out of Verizon digital coverage in SD.  We can still talk on the Verizon phone network, but they will not allow any form of Internet connection in the non digital areas or areas where they use third party carriers.

Our campground does have a kickass WIFI, but this week our old laptop decided it would NOT allow wireless internet access even though it shook hands fine with the WIFI server.  I could have spent this week wrestling with that problem, but decided I had had it with the "aging" (only 2 years old) laptop.  I cannot believe how fast pc related stuff becomes "obsolete" and begins giving problems.  I am also angry at how the software companies have managed to make it very difficult to move software from one pc to another.  I tried for several hours to reinstall my MSFT Office to the new computer and finally gave up and used the 60 day pre-installed trial version, which means I have to buy another package.  I am sure I will run into similar problems with Norton and Quicken and other stuff.  I may end up keeping the old laptop just so I won't have to buy so much new software.  Got a great deal on an HP ZV6000, with the 64bit Athlon chip, 100 gig hard drive, 2 MHz processing, and lots of other goodies.  But the good deal will get eaten up by the forced repurchase of software.  Ugh.

We love this area and never realized how beautiful the Dakotas are.  I had always pictured them as dreary and drab.  Wrong!  8 days will not be enough, but we have to move on.

We cracked the big passenger side MH windshield on the way here.  A call to the dealer was discouraging, as they said they would have to inspect it and our warranty would not cover stone damage.  However a call to Newmar gave us a different story.  They said when we reached an area that had a dealer where we would stay long enough to get on their work schedule and also allow 4 to 5 days for shipping the large window, they would cover it under warranty.  I asked about inspection.  They said, "What?  On a coach you just bought 2 months ago?  Don't worry about it."

This is a big reason we bought Newmar.

We also are getting a lot of dings and scratches on the Taurus toad.  So today I bought a used Blue OX shield that mounts on the hitch.  I would also like to find a place that sells those vinyl windshield covers.

It is still early in our young fulltiming life, but so far we can't imagine why we did not do this sooner.

Smoky

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Re: The Journey begins!
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2005, 04:05:47 AM »
We are now in Rapid City SD and having a grand time.  We decided to stay here at Happy Holidays RV Resort for 8 days.  We will depart for Sam's camp this coming Sunday.  Have oodles of photos of Rushmore, Needles Highway, Deadwood, etc but will have to wait to upload them until we get the new laptop going.

Smoky,

Are you driving the toad more or less than you originally planned?

Phil

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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2005, 10:19:02 AM »
LOL Phil!!  ;D

Hard to say at this point.  We hardly used the toad at all on the legs to SD.  We would travel hundreds of miles each day in the coach, then anywhere from 1 mile to 20 miles in the toad.

But now here at Rushmoire I have filled the toad tank twice while the coach sits and sits.  Time will tell!
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The magic of a campfire
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and new friends become old friends

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Ron

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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2005, 12:00:58 PM »
Smoky,

Good hearing you are enjoying the Black Hills.  Looking forward to your arrivalat Sam's Camp.

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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2005, 12:06:16 PM »
I bought Delorme SA to hear the voice. After 200 miles Sue said "shut it off or I'm getting out".  :-[

Now I use S&T only which I like to use better anyway.

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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2005, 12:29:44 PM »
Smoky,
Sent you an email regarding the drive and Msft software.
When I was out there, I also had some trouble connecting wifi. Found out that I had to right click the wifi icon (bottom right of the screen) or go to Network Connections and hit the Repair button to activate or reinstate the wifi. Also, you will find that the farther north of I94 and away from major towns you get the less Verizon coverage you will have for National Access and you may have to resort to hardline phone connections. What I did was just send/receive email by phone and waited until I had wifi or Verizon to access forums/internet.
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2005, 03:50:25 PM »
I bought Delorme SA to hear the voice. After 200 miles Sue said "shut it off or I'm getting out".  :-[

Now I use S&T only which I like to use better anyway.

Jeff

Sue and Marlene must be related ;D  She would only let me upgrade to the Garmin 2610 if I promised to keep the voice off. I also much prefer S&T to SA, but only have Garmin on when driving.
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Terry A. Brewer

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Re: The Journey begins!
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2005, 06:01:29 PM »
Smoky

>>But now here at Rushmoire I have filled the toad tank twice while the coach sits and sits.<<


Have you toured the Badlands & Custer State Park yet?....Pretty uneconomical to do it in your motorhome. Relishing the day when you finally admit that you are putting lots of miles on your car while touring while your motorhome sits in the campground.<BG>

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« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2005, 01:13:56 PM »
How this LOL Terry!

Not admitting it yet, but much close than a few weeks ago ( or was it months ago) when I wondered why people had such high mileages on their toads.

I will honestly say I am now looking forward to a few weeks of sitting around doing nothing.  At my age touring the sights wears me out and I miss my afternoon naps.  I believe what is going to happen is that we will do a lot of long distance driving in the MH as we want to see ALL of the US, but there will be many periods where we just sit and chill out by a pool, or take hikes around a wilderness dry camp area.  And then here will be times where the toad will take us to "required" tourist visit points of interest.  How this all balances out will be a function of many variables.  My olde farte body with its love of chilling out is just one of those variables.  :D  I do see now, however, that the toad will get more miles than originally anticipated.  Still not sure if it will outmile the pusher, which was my original question.

Yesterday we were on the road again with a full day of toad gas burning.   :o

The main visit was Crazy Horse.  I had high expectations (just like for Yellowstone in 2003) but was greatly disappointed.  It came across to me more as a tourist trap and money maker.  Hard to pinpoint the difference between Crazy Horse and Rushmore, but Rushmore was a much more vibrant experience, even though it had its share of stores and restaurants.

I got off on the wrong foot when I found there was a $20 admission, and none of our coupons, permits, passes, etc would work.  I had the boldness to ask how the fee was used and was told how expensive sculpting and dynamiting was.  OK.  Fair enough.

I looked forward to the chance to see a work in progress. complete with dynamiting, sculpting, maybe even visits up close to stand near mountain sculptors and watch them work. Something the completed Rushmore could not offer.

 As the day wore on, we never saw a single sign of life on the face of the mountain.  The only sounds of dynamiting were coming from the theater.  I found it interesting that not only did the theater emit sounds of dynamite when picturing the work of past years, but also during the intermission would emit explosive sounds that could be heard throughout the building.  At first I had the impression that real work was going on.  Eventually I figured out the sounds were all being created electronically.

A big disappointment came within the theater, when the film (not nearly as interesting as the Rushmore film) showed a final shot of the Mountain as it stood in 1998.  As far as my unpracticed eye could discern, it looked identical to what I saw in real life in 2005.

I was so unnerved by this I asked at the information desk if work was still going on.  "Yes" was the answer.

I asked why I had not seen any activity for several hours.  "They are working on the back side of the mountain."

Is there a way I can get a view of the back, even a distant one, so I can view the work in progress?  "No."

So much for that conversation.

I will say the work through 1998  ;) is impressive to view.  But not worth $20 compared to the $8 and the view of Rushmore.

I am wondering who is the guiding force since Korczak Zilkowski's death in 1982? 

I asked this question all around and could not get a consistent answer.  It seems on their web site, that sculpting work did continue ( but based on Korczak Zilkowski's original plans) until a final blasting in 1999.  I get the feeling it is sort of petering out, but it is politically unwise to explore this, as one is quickly questioned about one's feelings towards the American Indians.  I love the social structure of the Native American and  though new to learning the history, I am very interested and very supportive.  I do agree the settlers did not treat the Native American well, and that our American culture does not have the necessary appreciation of native culture.  I want to do better myself in this area.

But the only driving force I saw yesterday was the force to make money and commercialize.

The best thing Crazy Horse has going for it is the museum.  I don't think one can call it the best collection of Native American artifacts in existence, but it is close to making the visit worth $20.  Even so, there is a LOT of commercial activity going on inside the museum.  Not opposed to commercial activity, and we even bought a necklace for the Admiral which is lovely.  Not from an Indian though, but from a Caucasian "beader". 

It is just that I expected to see more love of history as exhibited at Rushmore that could go along with the commercialism.

Hope I am not offending anyone here.

I just better enjoyed the $20 we spent for a magnificent lunch at the Alpine Inn in Hill City that same day.  This is only the second restaurant recommendation I have made since joining the forum.  I can assure Bernie and Marlene that the rest rooms work, the air conditioning works (though yesterday it was not needed) and the setting is far more attractive and scenic than my first recommendation.

The prices are awesome.  Lunches run $4 to $6 and are elegant.  A strong German influence but lots of variety and all dishes with their unique and elegant presentation.  Sharon ordered a Reuben with homemade German potato salad included.  The sauerkraut in the sandwich was also home made.

I ordered an open faced smoked salmon bagel with home made cream cheese, Bermuda onion, etc. 

We both enjoyed the finger sandwich platter, with 8 half sandwhiches, each different, and each much larger than my idea of a finger sandwich.

Belgian strawberry and ice cream waffle, and multilayered chocolate cake for desert.

I wish I had the foresight to have taken a picture of the filled table.  I did however get a shot of the Inn from the car on the way out and will upload that with other goodies when I get this laptop fully set up.

We will be back to the Alpine one evening before we leave for their reservation only steak dinner.  The only thing they serve at dinner is a 6 oz filet Mignon for $5.95, and an 8 oz for $9.95.  complete with beverage, sides, and desert.

I have eaten $75 meals that are not prepared as well.

The Alpine Inn at Hill City SD.
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The magic of a campfire
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the mountains get higher
the hike was uphill both ways
and new friends become old friends

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« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2005, 02:26:21 PM »
I guess we had better just stay away from Crazy Horse as we do Rushmore.  We enjoyed Rushmore years ago befor they ruined it by what they called updating the visitor center.  The old one was much better and the area was not such a tourest trap.  Guess they have contaminated Crazy Horse area too.  The ast time we were there they were still working on it nant we found it very interesting.  Didn't cost even half of what y0u paid Smoky.  Hope you enjoy Devils Tower.

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« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2005, 02:35:39 PM »
Aye Ron.  I still enjoyed Rushmore, despite the parts that were commercial.  We did the movie thing in town first, and that may have influenced us favorably as it was tasteful and VERY interesting.  The finished sculptures are also very awesome the first time you see them in the flesh.

I think Crazy Horse would be awesome in the finished state as well.  It is even awesome in the unfinished state.  I just did not see how they justified the $20 unless people were truly working their butts off getting it finished.  And they definitely are not.

Hope we have time for the Tower.  Will be plotting my route sometime this evening.  We do not want to lose time getting to Sam's camp so all will depend on remaining travel time.
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The magic of a campfire
where the fish get bigger
the mountains get higher
the hike was uphill both ways
and new friends become old friends

2005 KSDP3910 Newmar Kountry Star
Toad - Taurus wagon w/ axle lock
On our way to the Poudre River in Colorado for the summer!

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« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2005, 02:44:37 PM »
Smoky,  Just noted your signature line.  Where is Rapid City Idaho? ??? ;D ??? ;D

I think you are about 450 to 490 mile from Sam's Camp from where you are now.  Enjoy the trip.  Remember if you don't see it this time maybe next time.

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« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2005, 06:16:39 PM »
Ron: 

Do you mean Rapid City? 

If so, sorry to hear it is that far.  A ten hour drive for us.  We may have to make it a 2 day drive.  If the Tower is not too far off our path maybe we can drive by in the MH.  Are the roads around it MH friendly?
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The magic of a campfire
where the fish get bigger
the mountains get higher
the hike was uphill both ways
and new friends become old friends

2005 KSDP3910 Newmar Kountry Star
Toad - Taurus wagon w/ axle lock
On our way to the Poudre River in Colorado for the summer!

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« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2005, 07:15:24 PM »
Rapid City.   Your signature line says Rapid City Idaho.

As we recall the roads around Devils tower we kinda tight.  We ended up parking the Bounder along a road an riding to the tower with my sister and bil.
That was a few years ago.
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« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2005, 10:02:03 PM »
OK.  The tower is a maybe then for the moment.
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The magic of a campfire
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the mountains get higher
the hike was uphill both ways
and new friends become old friends

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« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2005, 09:53:34 AM »
"I just did not see how they justified the $20 unless people were truly working their butts off getting it finished.  And they definitely are not."

My take on why $20.00 to see Crazy Horse:

-Rushmore is paid for, is a national park, is heavily visited and so can charge less.

-Crazy Horse is privately (under)funded. It is a sideshow and so less visited. The high entrance fee probably makes many pass on by.

photos of Rushmore's construction showed many workers (100s?). I doubt that Crazy Horse can afford more than a small crew. I suspect the completion is many decades away.
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« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2005, 01:38:40 PM »
... and I suspect you are dead on right Russ.

I love the concept of Crazy Horse.  If completed, the monument would be one of the Wonders of the World, and the Indian complex being developed there would be a magnificent showplace for appreciation of the Native American culture.  Sad that it does not seem to be working out that way.
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The magic of a campfire
where the fish get bigger
the mountains get higher
the hike was uphill both ways
and new friends become old friends

2005 KSDP3910 Newmar Kountry Star
Toad - Taurus wagon w/ axle lock
On our way to the Poudre River in Colorado for the summer!

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« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2005, 04:28:23 PM »
Smoky,

We were at the Crazy Horse monument in 1997. I did not see any evidence of work going on at that time! I, too, felt it was a ripoff for what you got to see. Guess they haven't done much since.

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« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2005, 05:44:30 PM »
LOL Jim.  All I can say is that the film shows a 1998 "current" picture of the progress and it looks identical to the current live view.  Guess they got tired of "updating" that picture each year.   :D
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The magic of a campfire
where the fish get bigger
the mountains get higher
the hike was uphill both ways
and new friends become old friends

2005 KSDP3910 Newmar Kountry Star
Toad - Taurus wagon w/ axle lock
On our way to the Poudre River in Colorado for the summer!

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« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2005, 03:05:21 PM »
Smoky,

You can't update that which hasn't changed! ;D

Jim

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