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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #90 on: August 03, 2010, 07:08:22 PM »
With regard to marverickbbd's post on July 9, 2010, I found this link relating to Jensen's claim that the Jensen LCD TV's are designed for RV use.  I was wondering why Winnebago factory would install the Jensen line of LCD TVs as part of maverickbbd's upgrade.  This link indicates that Jensen's models are specifically designed for the rugged RV environment.  I would appreciate more of an explanation on how the Jensen LCD TV interfaces with the surround sound system in maverickbbd's coach.

http://www.jensenrvdirect.com/products/lcd-tvs/lcd-tvs.html

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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #91 on: August 20, 2010, 11:17:49 AM »
Finally got around to posting pics of my two TV conversions on our Ellipse 40FD.  Salon tv is an HP 37" and the bedroom is a Sony Bravia 32".  We're very happy with both.  Next comes the outside tv conversion to some form of 26".

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« Reply #92 on: August 20, 2010, 08:27:59 PM »
Good job Rick!  Your salon entertainment cabinet looks like the same Winnebago design as ours was originally.
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #93 on: September 15, 2010, 05:57:27 AM »
2005 itasca 33v crt replacement.  I am a hobby woodworker, which helped.  Removed frame, old tv, plastic tub, metal wrap around tub from old crt. I had to make a couple cuts to get the metal tub out.  Made a new frame for my Phillips 1080i 32" lcd using most of the old frame and adding hangars of oak and plywood to attach the tv bracket to the back of the tv. Put a nice covered piece of 1/4" plywood over the hole left by the plastic tub and it gives me a lot more visibility looking at mtn scenery etc... I can post pics if anyone is interested in how it looks...By using the phillips tv it is only 30 1/2 inches wide and I could make it fit inside the exhisting frame without cutting the side boards.   All I had to do was make a new bottom board and back hangars...

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« Reply #94 on: September 15, 2010, 12:57:20 PM »
Can you post some pictures for everybody?
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #95 on: September 24, 2010, 01:08:47 PM »
We have an '06 Vectra 40FD, and I replaced my 30" Sony flat screen CRT with a 37" Dynex LCD.  The TV came from Best Buy on sale for $400.  The exterior dimensions were perfect, I ended up with approximately a 3/4" space all around the TV and the cabinet opening, without modification.  The LCD TV weighs only 37lbs., whereas the Sony was a struggle for two of us to handle and remove.  I made a mount for the articulating arm from 3/4" plywood, and used square u-bolts to fasten it to the 3/4" by 1 1/2" metal supports which run underneath the cabinet floor.  I also replaced the outside 25" Sony TV with a Weber Baby Q, which I use MUCH more often, and gained another considerable weight loss.  I had previously installed a Tivax digital converter, and also a Jack antenna.  Where I'm now located, I  could only receive two OTA stations, now with the LCD TV, and removing the converter, I can now receive a total of thirteen channels.  I don't have satellite TV, only a cable hookup when available, so the OTA reception comes in real handy.  I will try to post photos when I can figure out how to do that.
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« Reply #96 on: September 24, 2010, 01:25:46 PM »
Pushrod, don't forget to get some of that fancy new 'wood' floor in the pictures.

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« Reply #97 on: September 24, 2010, 01:34:00 PM »
I guess I can do that, but I'll wait till I can open it all up to see the full effect........  Call me if you know how to post pics...... Doug
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #98 on: September 24, 2010, 03:01:59 PM »
Maybe this will work.....  As requested by MAVERICKBBD, I threw in a couple of shots of our new laminate wood flooring.
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« Reply #99 on: September 24, 2010, 03:30:58 PM »
Doug - thanks for the pictures!!  That's an interesting idea about securing the TV - I still don't have a good plan for that as yet.

I better not let Jane see the pictures of your floor - I would instantly have a new project  ;D  We would both like to get rid of our carpet - at least in the salon.  Was the transition from the wood flooring to tile fairly smooth?
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« Reply #100 on: September 24, 2010, 03:58:24 PM »
I only had to hand over some Benjamins to install the floor......  My wife (and I) love the new surface, very easy to keep clean, no more shampooing the carpet, and it is not cold like the tile.  We had it installed by Dave and LJ's, in Woodland,WA.  Also had MCD shades put in the front window and cab sides, easy to operate, and very dark.  Obviously, we will be keeping this coach for awhile.  Doug M.
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #101 on: September 25, 2010, 09:13:45 AM »
Nice pics.  So what is the first game you are going to have the guys over to watch?  I'll bring the stuffed and roasted jalapenos.

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« Reply #102 on: September 25, 2010, 11:09:02 AM »
Ooh.. ooh - venison poppers (backstrap wrapped around a jalapeno pepper stuffed with cream cheese and wrapped in bacon)   ;D ;D Oh, forgot the freezer is empty.  Deer season open 11/6  :)
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2010, 04:29:15 PM »
The dealer we bought ours from last spring installed a LCD TV before we bought it. a 26" CRT came out and this 26" LCD went back in it's place. I thought they did a good job.
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« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2010, 05:27:33 PM »
Dealer did it??  You missed all of the fun!  Nice job and thanks for the post.
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #105 on: November 08, 2010, 03:34:10 PM »
Nice trim and finish.  Can't tell from the pics if the "box" behind it was removed or not.

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« Reply #106 on: November 08, 2010, 04:40:06 PM »
The box behind was not removed and I'm having trouble finding the TV amplifier, I hope the dealer didn't remove it. The Tv wiring diagram shows it in behind the tv but it's not there.
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #107 on: November 08, 2010, 04:55:38 PM »
If you are talking about the amp for the surround sound, try looking down by your left foot when you sit in the driver's seat.  If you ever want to remove and extra fifty pounds from over your head, I would suggest removing the box.

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« Reply #108 on: November 08, 2010, 05:24:04 PM »
Yes there is a booster under my left foot rest, So That does the TV surround sound also.?? Thank you!!
Now to find the plug-ins they left unplugged from the new TV.....
Can you elorbrate on the box you are referring to. I'm not sure what you are talking about.
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #109 on: November 09, 2010, 09:02:05 AM »
Yes there is a booster under my left foot rest, So That does the TV surround sound also.?? Thank you!!
Now to find the plug-ins they left unplugged from the new TV.....
Can you elaborate on the box you are referring to. I'm not sure what you are talking about.
Thanks 


Now guys next question.....
What controls the volume when you have the surround speakers plugged in and the speaker switch set to TV?
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #110 on: November 09, 2010, 12:45:49 PM »
If your 'surround' sound is like mine (Q-Surround or something like that), it is driven by a variable line-level output from the TV or dash radio.  The Q-Surround is basically an amp that drives a bunch of cube speakers (and a woofer or two) and the amp controls are set at the Winnie factory.  You do not directly control the amp.  (This is how my system operates at least.)
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2011, 05:44:11 PM »
OK!

2 hours into my trip to Fl, I pulled into Walmart and replaced the front tv!  I put in a 22" Emerson in the Wal mart parking lot - it looks great - all i need to do is find some natural oak at a cabinet shop on my way, and I'm converted!!!!!

The original tv developed MAJOR feedback on the way, the kids were screaming, blah blah blah, $300 and 3 hours later we are rollin with great DVD's and clear sound!

Although, when I run the generator the sound is clear.  When I pull power thru the inverter, there is a small amount of feedback.  Any ideas there??
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« Reply #112 on: January 30, 2011, 06:00:25 PM »
Although, when I run the generator the sound is clear.  When I pull power thru the inverter, there is a small amount of feedback.  Any ideas there??

Ah - DVDs - the great entertainer  ;)

Your inverter's output is not a pure sine wave, but a square wave which drives some electronics batty (or is known to cause premature failure in certain devices) - here's a pretty decent FAQ about the issue (lower part of the page.)

You have inspired me to create the "Most Unlikely Place to do a Mod" award.  I should have anticipated this and installed my roof air in our local WalMart parking lot instead of my shop.

You rock  :D
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #113 on: February 07, 2011, 07:23:10 AM »
lol!  thats funny john, i also did some electrical work in the wal mart parking lot!

so i got the tv in, i got some oak at menards and trimmed out my existing "shroud".  it looks great.  there is no feedback when i am plugged in, or when the gen set is running, but there is a little feedback when i am running on 12v.

should i just get a new inverter?

just sold my 1999 Winnebago Chieftain, Freightliner Chaisis, Cummins 275hp
sold the toad!

currently i am rv less - i am however borrowing my father in laws camper!

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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #114 on: February 07, 2011, 08:22:45 AM »
I'm a big fan of pure sine wave inverters, but they are considerably more expensive than the square or somewhat more expensive than stepped square wave inverters.  Here's a good Xantrex pure sine wave inverter that would be a good candidate for your application.  Don't even click on the link unless you are willing to fork out about $1.5k  :P.
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #115 on: February 07, 2011, 11:34:10 AM »
wow!

for that kind of $$, i will just run the gen set while the kids are watching tv going down the road!!!

lol!  thanks!
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #116 on: June 08, 2011, 06:13:16 PM »
The first order of business was the removal of the old TV and donating it to the guys in the office of the storage yard. The next and perhaps the most time consuming phase was measuring the available space and coming up with a workable means of mounting. As you can see, once the old TV is removed there remains an irregular flat surface and the front wooden frame. Not much vertical surface for mounting a flat panel unit.

My solution was to build an elevated shelf that would serve two purposes:

One, it raises the TV towards the upper portion of the frame more efficiently filling that space, while leaving suitable space below the shelf for placing a DVD player or satellite receiver.

Second, it allows a solid base to support a vertical frame element holding the TV itself. The open area to the left rear is for access to the rear of the receiver or DVD player without removing it. Well that, and I did not have the right tools for cutting the complex angles required to miter in the piece that would be required to complete that fourth side. I have installed a piece of the same carpet covering the base as a light shield over that opening to eliminate distracting light if watching TV during the day. But, who does that?

We originally planned to use a 26 TV, but since we seldom watch TV in the bedroom we elected to economize and go with a 24 unit. The mounting will accommodate a 26 TV should we, or a subsequent owner, want one. Rather than try to shave away the raised square of fiberboard in the center of the shelf I elected to retain it to hold the future DVD player in place with Velcro.

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« Reply #117 on: June 08, 2011, 06:47:55 PM »
Hi Bill,

Good job! 

You need to reduce the size of your pictures - can you do that?
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #118 on: June 09, 2011, 02:29:50 AM »
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Location of TV : entertainment center over passengers seat
Old TV: 27" RCA Tube Color TV, dint know the model number
New TV: 26" LED LCD 720p LG off Amazon.  Key features for me.  Power consumption (low 37watts), weight (11 pounds), Head phone jack ( got a head phone jack to RCA jack splitter off Amazon to connect to existing surround sound), RGB video input (to use as a monitor for my laptop)
Problems with the install:  The biggest problem is that when I removed the old TV I discovered the area behind the TV unfinished, bare particle board, and 1x2" framing.  Gained great access to the surround sound amp.  I cut 3/4" plywood to form a deck and cover the framing.  Next I got a discounted box of laminate flooring.  I custom cut flooring to cover bare particle board on inside of front cap, plywood covered 1x2 framing, and 3/4 plywood deck.  Mounted TV to through 3/4"plywood and 1x2 frame on extending arm.  Mounted printer behind the TV.  Connected sound Jack from laptop to sound in RGB jack on TV to get sound from laptop (DVDs, Netflicks, music) to TV.  Connected Main TV out on selector box to TV with coax TV cable (for Sat, Antenna, or cable).  Connected RGB output from laptop to back of TV to use as laptop monitor.  Connected wireless keyboard and mouse to laptop via USB.  Connected Droid 2 to USB port on laptop using PDAnet to internet access.  I removed the DVD player and use the area in the entertainmet center for the laptop.  Eventually I plan to bypass TV for sound and go directly from the laptop to the amp for surround sound system. 
I sit on the couch and check email and forums thru the Droid (as Modem) to the laptop to the TV as a monitor with wireless keyboard and mouse.   
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Re: Survey of CRT TV to LCD replacements
« Reply #119 on: June 09, 2011, 08:21:15 AM »
We need pictures!!
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