2007 Voyage 35A - Any concerns ?

Don't hesitate to call Winnebago owner relations and ask them your questions.

A new 2007 with only 600 miles on it & wrong papers??  And dealer won't show you where stuff is.  You must live VERY close to Winnebago factory. Mine arrived NEW with 2000+- mi from trip out to CA from IA.  Diagrams/Schematics  I have downloaded are pretty durn close to what I find.  JMHO but something doesn't mesh.

Art In Mobile said:

I have an 06 Voyage with the Ford & like it. The only thing I suggest you look at is the plastic dome on the bathroom vent on the roof. On mine when it was brand new the plastic from sun UV had cracked & turned to almost like soda crackers & it leaked rain water. It was very easy to replace with a screwdriver. Other than that I have been pleased & have put 16,000 on it. Good luck & enjoy. Art

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Slight deviation from topic,  but where did you get the replacement dome?

Thanks for the feed back..
I tend to agree with everything you've said but the seat problem is that it's aliigned 2+ inches towards the right side of the steering wheel - not directly towards the center of the steering wheel... have talked to Win Techs - they told me the dealer would correct.....
Suspect you're correct.. I should be able to find water heater that way - it actually appears from underneath that the water heater must be mounted internal  - but... the water pump and screen unit are not where the manual / diagram / specs had them either .. and I was on phone with Winn tech quite a while to track that down... they are not in the water service compartment where they were supposedly mounted... they are actually behind a screwed on side panel  just in front of the water service compartment and between it and the panel to the forward of that.... the area they were mounted in is a "dead mini compartment area" between opening compartments -  has no entry other than taking off the side of the water service compartment area.... is impossible to work on unless you are <2'6" and 50#, left handed..... I'm going to have to open an area from the compartment in front of this deadspace so one can get at them when needed.....
That should allow reasonable access to those...........
Dealer is in Green Bay WI so suspect thats why mileage was very low... now have approx 4000 mi on it... 46 hrs on generator - both getting oil /filters this week .......
Just got valve extenders on for inside duals, have Pressure Pro system now so hope to get that all  on shortly....
Little by little.....

jc2
I got the fan roof cover at an RV store in Texas. Most Rv stores have them. Art

In looking at page 7 of the plumbing diagram: http://www.winnebagoind.com/diagram/2007/07_f35a_plumb.pdf  It appears the HW heater is on the driver side about 2 compartments up from the water utility bay.  This is the same location as on our 07 35L however on the 35L there is NO latch to open the compartment. There are two screws under the edge that you have to remove then it opens on hinges like a regular compartment. It is a real PITA to drain the HW. Not sure if yours is the same way or not but in any event the mesh vent will be at give away for the location.

Interesting ... I will check that area and look for screws on the bottom of what appears to be a dead panel - never guessed that might be the way to get access to it....maybe it's hinged and they saved putting a latch there .......
Along the same thought, I and the Winn tech finally discovered the area and found how to get at the water pump and screeen......will also look to see if I can get at the water pump and screen behind the panel on the other side of the coach between two actual latched compartments also.... I thought I was going to have to cut an opening from the water service compartment into the dead space where the pump and screen are ..........they are on opposite side of coach and behind compartment from where the schematics show them.....
Thanks for the info ... will check later today...

check your exterior fiberglass panels which are glued onto the chassis... mine are failing like leaves off of trees in the fall.

Be carefull with valve extenders, they are the cause of many flats, also adding new batteries to old ones in a bank is poor form, the old ones will effect the new negativly.>>>D

utahclaimjumper said:

Be carefull with valve extenders, they are the cause of many flats...>>>D

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say more por favor...


I just installed some extenders so that I could add air and check pressure without bashing my knuckles/fingers trying to get the valve stem cap off of the OEM valves. 

You are increasing risk a little with any kind of extender, but I think with a quality braided steel extension the risk is very minimal.

That's my understanding so I talked with tire specialist at local truck / tire store...they maintain several fleets of trucks for local companies so they have quite a bit of experience with tires, duals, etc...  ended up putting solid straight 5" extenders from inside duals through the outside rim hole to outside of dual - got rubber sleeves that fit the rim hole and hold the extender in place......all the outside tires/rims  have the solid curved valvestems facing towards the inside of the rim... but in all cases, I can easily get to the nozzle with the two way 45degree guage and air line nozzle.... Also, in all cases, the Pressure Pro sensors will fit on the valve stem and not vibrate against anything......
Believe I'll be all set when I get it done......

taoshum said:

I just installed some extenders so that I could add air and check pressure without bashing my knuckles/fingers trying to get the valve stem cap off of the OEM valves. 

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If you had a good Tire Pressure Monitoring System you'd be able to do that without even having to take the caps off ;D

BernieD said:

If you had a good Tire Pressure Monitoring System you'd be able to do that without even having to take the caps off ;D

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yes, yes... and then I'd get to deal with all the false positives, false negatives and 10 sensors that will fail from time to time as well as the display, the power supply for the display, the batteries for the sensors and the cables and the connectors and the LCD and the various circuit boards and so on, so on... plus the cost of 3-400$.  I think I'll stick with the mechanical pressure gage, a trained visual inspection and a good thump on the sidewall from time to time.  And, we are actually considering the power company's offer to run electricity to our house next year. LOL.

Taoshum, Your avatar and others like it allways creates a question in my mind, Have you been to all the states that are colored? or the ones that are white??>>>D

utahclaimjumper said:

Taoshum, Your avatar and others like it allways creates a question in my mind, Have you been to all the states that are colored? or the ones that are white??>>>D

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Well, you know I have this CRS virus so I'm guessing but I think it's neither.  The MH has been to the states that are colored, I've been to the ones that are white as well as the ones that are colored plus some that are not shown.  At the FMCA show I saw a map with all of the US, the Canadian provinces, all of the Central American countries and all of the South American Countries.  Some of these maps caused me to wonder about the same question, especially when I looked at the MH.

taoshum said:

yes, yes... and then I'd get to deal with all the false positives, false negatives and 10 sensors that will fail from time to time as well as the display, the power supply for the display, the batteries for the sensors and the cables and the connectors and the LCD and the various circuit boards and so on, so on... plus the cost of 3-400$.   I think I'll stick with the mechanical pressure gage, a trained visual inspection and a good thump on the sidewall from time to time.  And, we are actually considering the power company's offer to run electricity to our house next year. LOL.

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Taos

As I said, "if you had a good TPMS system", then you wouldn't have to worry about all of those issues By the way, tests have proven that an experienced trucker with a thumper cannot discern lower tire pressures (I'm not talking about flat or very low and I don't have a link to those tests). And none of your 3 checks work very well when you are driving down the highway where most blowouts occur. And it sure is nice to be able to check tire pressures when it is raining without getting wet ;D

BernieD said:

Taos

As I said, "if you had a good TPMS system", then you wouldn't have to worry about all of those issues By the way, tests have proven that an experienced trucker with a thumper cannot discern lower tire pressures (I'm not talking about flat or very low and I don't have a link to those tests). And none of your 3 checks work very well when you are driving down the highway where most blowouts occur. And it sure is nice to be able to check tire pressures when it is raining without getting wet ;D

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Hi Bernie,
I can tell that you bought one and trust it.  I'll wager that even a "good" TPMS will fail from time to time, likely when you are driving down the road in the rain and get hit by lightning.  If you get a false positive, what do you do?  Probably get out, look at the tire, thump the tire, pull out your manual pressure gage, check the pressure and either call for road service or continue the trip?  If you get a false negative, you still have a problem and don't know it and won't even bother to do a visual, mechanical and thump check when you stop for gas or lunch. 

NASA has every safety system, monitoring system and technical gizmo known to man and they still lost two.  A $2B AF jet has every known montoring system available and they still lose several every year.  These systems are quality checked minute by minute (or milli second by milli second), monitored by a herd of engineers, technicians and maintenance folks and they still crash.  The "best" TPMS is mass produced (probably in China) and sold at a huge profit.  It is, maybe, tested once at the factory and then installed by a technician that does maybe two per month.  My "trust" level would not be very high... maybe it is better than nothing but how do you know, for sure?  I don't get it. 

Rigorous manintenance and "passive safety systems" like "Run flat tires" as a backup... that makes lots more sense to me.  I believe "passive" safety sytems will save more lives than "active" safety systems every time.  In My Humble Professional Opinion.  Thanks for your discussion.

If everyone bought only products that had no possibility of failure, we'd all be living in underground bunkers with none of life's amenities.  Perhaps we should stop driving as every vehicle has possible catastrophic failure modes.  Don't stand under a tree as you might get hit by lightning.

I would rather have a TPMS that occasionally gives a false positive (usually due to pressure drops in cold weather) than none at all and suffer the consequences of a tire failure.  I've not heard of any false negatives with the Pressure Pro and I do know of many incidents where it warned in sufficient to avoid a bad failure.

[quote author=Ned]If everyone bought only products that had no possibility of failure, we'd all be living in underground bunkers (except in earthquake zones?)with none of life's amenities.  Perhaps we should stop driving as every vehicle has possible catastrophic failure modes(as the wreck statistics prove beyond any shadow of doubt).  Don't stand under a tree as you might get hit by lightning.[/quote]

Any thing can be taken to an unrealistic extreme I guess...as Lee Trevino said "if you're in a lightning storm, hold up your one iron, even God can't hit a one iron" LOL

I would rather have a TPMS that occasionally gives a false positive (usually due to pressure drops in cold weather) than none at all and suffer the consequences of a tire failure.  I've not heard of any false negatives with the Pressure Pro and I do know of many incidents where it warned in sufficient to avoid a bad failure.

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 That's the "sales pitch" for the PP system.  It is very convincing.  When it works, it's great and those are the only stories that are repeated.  You probably won't hear of any "false negatives", i.e., it shoulda warned you but didn't... it's hard to notice a faulty bulb that doesn't light up when it should...unless yet another monitor system is available to test the bulbs. Many systems have a "built in self test" that basically tests the bulbs, like the bulb display on the dash when you turn on the key.

I guess this dead horse has been beat enough... thanks for the discussion
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