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Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« on: October 04, 2009, 08:09:36 AM »
Hello all,

 I have a dream to be a fulltimer when its possible. I was wondering what other fulltimers do as far as thier house is concerned. Do you sell it or keep it? Thanks for your comments.
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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2009, 08:27:31 AM »
Good question and I suspect you'll get a variety of answers.  We sold our "dream home" designed and built by ourselves when it became too much to keep up.  We had a large house, four car garage, an acreage that took 5 hours just to cut the grass and extensive gardens that while beautiful to look at were just too much work.  Every time we wanted to travel I was paying someone to look after the place and we love to travel!

In the end we made the decision to sell, store what we wanted to keep in sea containers, buy a motor home and hit the road.  To date we've been on the road for 13 months and not regretted a day.  The proceeds are invested and some day in the distant future we'll probably buy a condo and settle down again, but not till we've satisfied our wanderlust.

Everyone's need for a base vary but for us, at this stage of life having a house just wasn't that important.

Good luck in you travels.

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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2009, 09:20:49 AM »
We put everything we wanted to keep in storage and sold the house.

The closest thing we have to a home base is a full hook up site my wife's sister put in for us at her commercial peach orchard in Palisade CO. We spend Oct, and Nov there each fall visiting family.
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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2009, 11:13:45 AM »
We too sold our house and put in storage what we wanted to keep.  Every year we recheck what we have in storage and put some of it up in yard sales.   Some day it will all be gone and done away with.
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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2009, 11:28:08 AM »
When I retired in 2003 we sold our home and put lots of  stuff (later to be detrmined as mostly junk) into storage.  After 5 years of wandering the USA,  Mexico and Canada, I wanted a home base.  So we took proceeds of house and built a smaller home in AZ as a base.  But we continue to travel in motorhome  extensivlely.

Every family will have different priorities and those will evolve as we age, experience what we wanted and have changing health concerns.

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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2009, 01:31:30 PM »
Owning a house and full-timing are almost mutually exclusive.  I suppose a few have elected to rent their house, for one reason or another, and even fewer just leave it vacant waiting for a time when they no longer wish to travel.  However, both of those elections  are filled with risks, and potential disaster.

We sold ours.  It was too big, located in a huge metroplex, too much exterior maintenance and way too much to worry about being gone 365.  Even renting really wasnt a good option, compared to the worry free cd we chose.  Only if appreciation was high every year would it possibly make much sense to rent it, and even then, rental risks were something we didnt want to deal with.

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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2009, 02:16:40 PM »
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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2009, 03:47:43 PM »
I know a few fulltimers who kept their house, intending to return to it one day (Ron & Sam Ruward did just that a couple years ago), but most people would not be coming back to the same house anyway. Too big, too expensive, wrong location, whatever.

We are long-timers - we elected to keep our house as a winter home base. It's our retirement bungalow, so was already downsized and down-priced before we went into RVing as a long-time activity. There are some advantages to having a permanent home base, but there is also some upkeep and expense associated with it.
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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2009, 04:23:34 PM »
Hello all,

 I have a dream to be a fulltimer when its possible. I was wondering what other fulltimers do as far as their house is concerned. Do you sell it or keep it? Thanks for your comments.

I don't see how one can be considered a full-timer if they have a home to return to. If they rent it out or never return to it, I would consider that to be fulltiming.

I am sure I never will be a full-timer, as I like to have at least a couple of homes to return to. But someday, we might take a trip for about six months or so.

But not in Alberta, where a decent hamburger costs almost $20.00!

What happened to the USA dollar compared to Canada?

A correct exchange rate, IMO,  should be about 2.50 Canadian dollars to each US dollar. But it's only $1.05 to one US dollar (in banks) at this time. Almost everything in Canada costs about 2.5 times the USA price these days! Gasoline is a bargain in Canada at just over one dollar per liter (about four US dollars per gallon).

Gas is a little cheaper in Alberta where food is a lot more expensive than in BC!

We decided to come home a week early because we didn't want to go broke while in Canada!

BTW, in a few months, the HST tax will increase to 12% in Canada!

Canadians should come to the USA to spend their money! The USA must be a real bargain to them now! Especially in Oregon where there is still no sales tax! It seems so strange to buy something that costs $19.99 and get a penny back when you hand them  a single 20 dollar bill. Here is SF, get another five out to pay the the sales tax! But here the sales tax is 8.75%, not 12%!

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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2009, 05:58:35 PM »
Some people like their stick houses or the location enough that they keep the place but rent it out for an indefinite period of time.  As Gary said, the Ruwards did that first while they were living around the world for his work and later while they fulltimed for about ten years.  Many people just don't want a house so they sell out and store their treasures until they finish fulltiming.  Then there are many of us who like to have a home to return to after a lengthy trip.  We fit into that category, every year taking a trip that lasts anywhere from two to five months, depending on where we want to go and what we want to do.  For us, coming home always feeels good.  I personally was born with a suitcase in my hand as my mother used to say because we were a military family.  I never had a "real" and permanent home until after we were married and having a home is very important to me.  I love to travel but there's nothing quite like returning home.  Other people don't have that same need, so this is a highly personal and subjective decision.  I might add that both people of a couple need to feel pretty much the same way or it won't work.  I always say that you can't live someone else's dream.  If you both have the same dream, that's great but if you don't then it can cause a major problem.

As you can see from the answers so far, we tend to categorize ourselves as full-timers (no stick house or one that's rented out), long-timers (with a home base to which we return regularly), or short-timers (who take vacations of a more or less specified length of time).

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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2009, 07:14:09 PM »
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For us, coming home always feeels good. ... we tend to categorize ourselves as full-timers ... long-timers ... or short-timers (who take vacations of a more or less specified length of time).

Too restrictive Ardra. We consider ourselves mid timers. We leave from our front door (via road) or from our back door (via water) for a few days, weeks or months at a time, often leaving on a whim. Rarely are our trips planned, and they are often of unspecified duration, although that doesn't mean we don't do appropriate trip prep.

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For us, coming home always feeels good.

Same here; As we're re-entering our community, I'll usually look at Chris, who is almost always at the wheel or at the helm, and ask "glad to be be home?", and she always nods her head.

We can't imagine not having a home base to return to. OTOH we consciously downsized for retirement so we could lock up, take off, and not worry about the place.
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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2009, 11:48:41 AM »
Thanks for all the comments. It gives me a lot to think about when the time comes. I like the idea of downsizing to a homebase that requires little upkeep. But like one of ya'll said it has to be something that my wife and I agree on. Only time will tell. Thanks
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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2009, 12:48:25 PM »
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Too restrictive Ardra.

This is true, Tom.  I was just trying to give the OP an idea that there are many types of RVing so the answer to his orginal question isn't as clearcut as his question implied.

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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2009, 06:42:30 PM »
vetrncwby,

One thing that has not been mentioned is to not make the decision to sell the house too quickly.  Give you and your wife some time to actually experience the "full-timing" part, then make the decision.  The worse thing to have happen is that you sell and then decide after 8 months of full timing that you actually don't like it.  You can't get back the things you gave away; or sold.  I was one who thought I wanted to full time; and then found out, to my surprise, I didn't.

We have a full timer section in our library, have a look around.

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Re: Do fulltimers sell thier house or keep it for a home base?
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2009, 06:54:58 PM »
"glad to be be home?"

But to a fulltimer, isn't home wherever they park their RV?
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2009, 07:21:50 PM »
That's true Don, but I was specifically talking about my wife and I, who I termed "mid timers". Our primary residence is here in your old stomping ground, on the CA Delta. Our coach is in nearby storage, and the fleet is moored behind the house. We can leave by road or by water on a whim, although I usually tell the driver/captain I need a couple of days to get the RV or boat ready.

We have a number of friends and near-neighbors, some of whom are forum members, who mid time, just like ourselves.

We have friends (and forum members) who "fulltime" by spending approx 50% of their time in their RV and the other 50% aboard their boat. They sold their large house near Sacramento a number of years ago, thinking they'd give "living aboard" a try for a couple of years. That was 7+ years ago, and now they have no intention of buying another house. However, they bought an RV, and later upgraded to a much larger, nicer coach.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2009, 05:53:08 PM »
As Marsha said, try out full-timing first before making a rash decision about selling your house.  Unless you have thoughts about selling it anyway, then yes go ahead and sell it.  But it's always best to first try on a pair of shoes before walking out of the store in them, so do try a long trip 3-9 months or even a year trip far away from your house.  See how much you miss it while you're gone.

We tried it for seven months first, had our son who needed housing at that same time live in it.  Then when we came back he needed it for another couple of months before a job change took him across country, so we lived in the RV.  We liked the full-timing a lot, so the next year we decided to try it again, only this time we left the house empty with other kids checking up on it.  In the meantime we had someone offering to buy it.  We couldn't just then decide, so we didn't.  Took another 9 month trip and decided we no longer wanted a nine-room house and fourteen acres to tend.  So we took up the offer by the family who still wanted it.  They've been living happily ever after in it, and we had lived happily in our RV for about ten years.  And those were the best ten years of our lives.  If we were much younger, we would still be in it.  However, once the health issues manifested, we were more willing to look for a stick-house.  So we did end up buying a house again, but in a much warmer climate, in an area we absolutely love.  And until this year, have again made many months' long trips all over the west, to catch up on a lot we had missed in prior years.    

However, now I'm finding I'm having conflicting thoughts about both places.  When I'm in the house I absolutely enjoy it, but long for the open road more and more.  When were on the road, exploring new avenues, I am enjoying it very much, but as time goes on I find I'm miss the house.  So the only solution is to live in one until the urge gets too strong to see the other, and then switch places.....  :D

I love having choices..... ::)

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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2009, 06:36:07 PM »
Great response Daisy.

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However, now I'm finding I'm having conflicting thoughts about both places. .... So the only solution is to live in one until the urge gets too strong to see the other, and then switch places.....

That's what happens to us; We get the urge to leave in the coach, and miss the boat. We leave in the boat, and miss the house. We stay home and miss both.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2009, 06:23:18 AM »
But to a fulltimer, isn't home wherever they park their RV?
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YES, yes, yes!! Home is where we park it!!!


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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2009, 11:21:23 AM »
Another thing that plays into the decision to full time is finances.  It's expensive to have both a house and a motor home.  Both need up keep and maintenance.  And, it's expensive to tour around/ sight see in a motor home. 

When we were calculating all the numbers, it was about the same costs to maintain a house as it was to travel and maintain a motor home.  If you sell the house and can't afford to travel in the motor home, sitting around in a the motor home in a campground not traveling might not be much fun either.

It's a complicated decision.

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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2009, 09:13:35 AM »
We sold our home and most everything in it and have never looked back.  We love full timing!  I have to admit, it was a little scary at first selling all my "stuff" and a little sad.  But, its just stuff.  We could not afford the upkeep and insurance, etc on both. 
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2009, 06:29:30 PM »
In 99 I sold my home and gave another one to my Son.
I sold or gave everything inside of it away that didn't go into the MH.

Everything worked out perfect. On my last day at work I got off at 3:30PM
At 4PM I was in town closing on the sale of the house.
Next morning headed out in the MH on my full time journey.
Never looked back, or regretted getting rid of it.

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2009, 04:34:34 PM »
At the moment I consider us to be part timers.  We have a home in Colorado Springs, and we have a lot in Texas on the Gulf Coast.  We travel pretty extensively in the summer using the Colorado home as our summer base.  Just the opposite in the winter, using the lot in Texas as the home base.    We'd have sold the Colorado house this last year, but because of the economy decided for us it's best to wait, and HOPE...  the market comes back a little, at which time we sell it.  Like the other folks, it's just to much work.

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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2009, 12:14:38 PM »
In 2007 we (my wife and 4 kids) sold our home, bought a 40' class A and traveled the country for a year.  We've home-schooled our kids from the start and maintained their schedule while traveling.  It was the time of our lives.  For us, we know it was temporary and when out journey ended we sold the coach and bought a house.

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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2011, 10:03:15 AM »
Hello all,

 I have a dream to be a fulltimer when its possible. I was wondering what other fulltimers do as far as thier house is concerned. Do you sell it or keep it? Thanks for your comments.

I keep my homebase, which is land about 150' long by about 30' wide, with a beach on the East side, a swamp and forest on the west side, and RV parks to the north and south. Here I have a natural brook, a rose garden, fruit trees, a vegetable garden, and enough of a driveway to park a small motorhome in. In this town, you are not allowed to live in an RV on your own land, nor are you allowed to add private hookups on your own land, but if I need hook ups, there's an RV park right next door and I could park there and still have daily access to my land, should I ever need to do so, so far I haven't, but the option is there for me. There was a house on the land years ago, a 1940s 16'x9' beach cabin. There is no house today, a flood decided for me that I did not need one anymore, and the town zoning laws decided for me that my land was too small to put a house on. I asked them: I'm not allowed to put up a house where I already had a house, I'm not allowed to live in a motorhome, what exactly AM I allowed to live in?". The guy sarcasticaly joked and said: "Well there is no law regarding tents."  So I put a tent where my house used to be, and I pretty much live on this small piece of land in a tent, full time, a thing I have done for 5 years now.


I don't see how one can be considered a full-timer if they have a home to return to. If they rent it out or never return to it, I would consider that to be fulltiming.


There are fulltime travelers and there are fulltime RVers. They ARE NOT the same thing.


First off, let me explain that there are two types of full-timers: Full-Time Travelers and Full-Time RVers and than there is a third type known as FullTime RV Travelers...which seems to be the sub-type to which you are refering to. Do not assume all fulltimers are FullTime RV Travelers, this is only one subtype.

Full-Time Travelers are on the road a lot. They rarely stay in one location more than 3 or 4 months, and most only stay at each stop for a week or less. They may or may not live in an RV. Some live in cars, some live in vans, some live in trailers, some live in motorhomes, some live in tiny pop-ups pulled by motorcycles, and I've meet a few who live out of their backpack while crossing the country on bikes. Some live in their cars during the day and sleep at motels or in tents during the night. They call no place their home and move from one place to the next, year after year.

Full-Timer RVers may or may not be Full-Time Travelers. They live in a trailer or a motorhome full time. They may be "Snowbirds" living 6 months in the north and 6 months in the south always parking in the exact same location, which they may either rent or own outright. They may be "Homesteading Boondockers" living off the grid all year long never moving off their land at all. They may be "Part Time Travelers" living in the RV on their own land most of the year and traveling in the RV only a few weeks of the year.

Full-Time RV Travelers are when Full-Time Travelers are also Full-Time RVers.

But this is all just the "basics", and with in each of these are tons of variations, including PartTimers, Boondockers, LongTimers, ShortTimers, SnowBirds, SunBirds, and loads of less common terms. In the end every one is different and has different ways of thinking about fulltiming, and that's okay, because as long as it works for them, who cares about the details, right? In the end we are all a mixed pot of folks who live in RVs for varying ammounts of time and varying reasons and varying types of travel, and it's all good because the thing all fulltimers seem to hae in common is the agreement to disagree about what exactly it is that makes a person a fulltimer, which is pretty cool, when you stop and think about it.

Me? I am a Full-Time Boondocker, a Semi-Full Timer RVer, and only an occasional vacationing traveler. What this means is this: I live on my own land, without utility hook-ups (no electricity, no running water, no sewer/septic). On dry warm days I live in a tent and on cold, rainy, or snowy days I move into a motorhome. My traveling consists of monthly weekend visits to in-state tourist attractions, festivals, fair grounds, beaches, fishing villages, state parks, etc. I am a Scottish Traveller (Gypsy) by birth, race, and culture (note the double "LL"), but I am not a Traveler (single "L") by life style.

To farther explain and confuse, FullTime Boondocking has NOTHING at all to do with RV Boondocker, which is a horse of a completly different color.

Boondocking is a term that has been around for close to 200 years. It was only recently picked up and used by RVers in the last 15 years.

"To Boondock" by correct, proper, and true dictionary definition, means to live off the land, in an isolated location on the deep far outskirts of society, without electricity, without running/tap water, and without sewer/septic/toilets, and on an very abnormally low income at least 50-75% below the poverty line (generally considered to less than $5,000 per year, per person in the household).

Boondocking means "Living out in the Boonies" or "Living in the Sticks", or inother words to live outside of town, outside of the city limits, or deep in the woods and swamp regions where the average person does not live.

People "Living out in the Boonies" (a Southern term) or "Living in the Sticks" (a Northern term) are said to be "HillBillies" (in the South), "Hermits" (in the North), or "Mountain Men" (in New England and the Rockies).

Since the above terms are now considered to be culturally slanderous, degrading, hate names, or politically incorrect, the modern term used by the general public today is "Boondockers", "Hipsters", and "Hippies" whom are "Living Off the Grid" or "Living Off the Land" or "Living an Eco Friendly Green Lifestyle". In the 1960s and 1970's "Hipsters" and "Hippies" were the preferred terms, but since the 1990's the preferred term has been "Boondockers".

Terms which have always been considered degrading include: "Bums", "Tramps", and "Hobos".

Boondockers whom own there own land are referred to as "Homesteaders".

Boondockers whom camp out on publicly or privately owned lands without the permission of the land owners are referred to as "Squatters". Most states have laws regarding "Squatter's Rights" which allow the Squatters to camp out on government owned lands for a specified length of time (which varies from as little as 6 hours to as long as 4 months, depending on the local laws.)

In some regions it is a stereotyped myth to assume that all Gypsies, Irish Travellers, and Scottish Travellers are ALWAYS Boondockers. In the case of my family this was not a myth, as we can trace our family back to the 1400's and pretty much no one in our family tree ever settled down to a "normal stix n brix" lifestyle.

Traditionally someone who lives "Out on the Boondocks" lives outside of the city limits, often on public land, usually in a densely wooded area where they can not be seen from the road. Often living in huts, shacks, tents, cabins, lean too, covered wagons, trailers, and shanties. If they had a house at all, it was usually abnormally small and often had only 1 room. Usually they lived this way because they were too poor to live in town. Many Boondockers had large families with 7, 8, 10, 12 or more kids, all sleeping in the same bedroom. Some begged for food, some worked in near by mills or mines or fisheries. In areas where several Boondocking families gathered together, became know as "Shanty Towns", "Hobo Cities", or "Tent Cities".

"To Boondock" by correct, proper, and true dictionary definition, means to live off the land, in an isolated location on the deep far outskirts of society, without electricity, without running/tap water, and without sewer/septic/toilets, and on an very abnormally low income at least 50-75% below the poverty line (generally considered to less than $5,000 per year, per person in the household).

And that is the way is has been ever since the late 1700's through the 1800's and on into the 1900's until the late 1980s/early 1990s when WalMart arrived on the scene and gave a whole new meaning to the word: Boondocking.

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Skip ahead to the 1990's and the arrival of WalMart.

WalMart realizing that RV travelers needed a place to stop and shop and stop and get a few hours sleep between driving, came up with a marketing screme to bring in more customers, by allowing RVers to camp out in their parking lots 100% for FREE. In the beginning, all WalMart's allowed RVs to park in their parking lots. Some WalMarts even offer hook-ups and dumping stations. All you do is drive out behind the WalMart to the designated RV parking spaces, park, head  in to the service desk, give them your name and info (make of RV, plate number, etc) and tell them how many nights you need to stay. The only thing WalMart requires of you, is that you come into the store each day.

However, while ALL WalMarts allowed RV parking, not all cities give WalMart permission to do so! It is not uncommon in certain places, for the police to wake you up at night and tell you to clear out of WalMart, wither you have permission from WalMart or not. Cities started charging WalMart fines and many WalMarts were forced to tell RVers they could no longer park over night. Fortunatly cities banning WalMart parking were few, and there are still over 400 WalMarts across the country, which welcome RV overnight parking.

Originally there was no limit on how long you could stay in WalMart's parking lot. Need to park for a week? A month? Six months? A year? As long as you went inside and bought something every day, they did not care how long you parked. Entire caravans would park in WalMart, 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 RVs traveling together. They'd pull out their slides, set up their tents and lawn chairs, set up a fir pit, and than every day go into WalMart and buy one .99c item. They'd lay out on beach towles and play loud music and annoy and disrupt WalMart's regular customers. When they left they often left piles of garbage in the parking lot. They almost ruined it for every one.

Times have changed.

Today, some WalMarts don't want to deal with the hassle and choose not to allow RVers at all. Most however, ask that you park, but don't "set up camp". (In other words - don't open your slides, don't pull out your awning, don't set up a tent, leave the lawn chairs indise, and don't cook on your grill or fire pit.)  Many now have time limits varying from 1 night to 14 days, often only allowing employees to stay longer periods. Some disallow caravan groups. And if you only rush in and buy a single .99c item each day of your stay, rather than doing your regular shopping there, they may ask you to leave and not let you come back. And remember - if you break too many rules - they took down your name, RV make, and plate number - you could get banned from WalMart nation wide, not just the one you parked in.

Other stores now follow WalMart's lead and it is not too difficult now to find, shopping centers, malls, gas stations, truck stops, casinos, race tracks, and other commercial businesses which allow RV parking. Rarely will any allow more than a 3 nights stay.

But the result of all of this was a new breed of people who had begun to call themselves "Boondockers" or "RV Boondockers" or "WalMart Boondockers". Because they were dry camping (without hook ups) while at WalMart, these same folks began to call themselves "Boondockers" any time and every time they parked ANYWHERE without hook-ups. If they parked in an RV Resort and opted to dry camp no hook ups, they called themselves Boondockers, even though they had bumper to bumper people and amenities on all sides. If they are parked in WalMart without electrify, they call themselves Boondockers. In they are parked on the street in the middle of the city, surrounded by apartment buildings, they call themselves "Stealth Boondockers". If they are in a National or State Park, they call themselves Boondockers.

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And so what is the difference between Boondocking and RV Boondocking?

"To Boondock" by correct, proper, and true dictionary definition, means to live off the land, in an isolated location on the deep far outskirts of society, without electricity, without running/tap water, and without sewer/septic/toilets, and on an very abnormally low income at least 50-75% below the poverty line (generally considered to less than $5,000 per year, per person in the household).

"To RV Boondock" means to live in any location an RV without electricity, without running/tap water, and without sewer/septic/toilets, and gives no regard to income levels.

 RV Boondocking, if you want to get technical about it, is not true Boondocking and is actually a slang term for Dry Camping. Dry Camping means to camp in a spot where you do not have access to electricity, running water, or flushing toilets. This covers everything from camping in your RV to the family fishing trip in the tent along side a river. If done only occasionally as a vacation it is considered "just a camping trip", but if down every day, all year long as a lifestyle than it becomes Boondocking.

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As I said, I am a Full-Time Boondocker, a Semi-Full Timer RVer, and only an occasional vacationing traveler. I am some one who lives in an RV, but I am not some one who travels in said RV. What this means is this: I live on my own land, without utility hook-ups (no electricity, no running water, no sewer/septic). On dry warm days I live in a tent and on cold, rainy, or snowy days I move into a motorhome. My traveling consists of monthly weekend visits to in-state tourist attractions, festivals, fair grounds, beaches, fishing villages, state parks, etc. I am a Scottish Traveller (Gypsy) by birth, race, and culture (note the double "LL"), but I am not a Traveler (single "L") by life style.

Anyways, yeah, there you have it...how some one can be a FullTimer and own land too.

I think, personally, if I was forced to try to define what the 'ideal fulltimer" would be: I'd probably say to be a 100% "true" fulltimer, you'd have to be living in a motorhome (not a trailer) for no less than 5 years, with no house or land or home base to fall back on. I'm not sure how my mind even came to think that, but whatever. I no ways fit that and I consider myself a fulltimer on some level, though more on a semi-fulltime level not a 100% fulltime level - does that even make sense?

Wow - I like this thread - you guys really made me take a "deep look" at what it is I consider fulltiming to be! LOL! Sorry I rambled on so long while I analysed this all out.
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« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2011, 01:02:44 PM »
Wow. You must have a lot of free time on your hands to consider all those variations of fulltiming-ness. Well and thoughtfully done, though.

But does any of it make any difference what you call it?  Or whether an RVer fits neatly into any single category or combination of them? I don't think so. However it makes  an interesting campfire topic, especially if accompanied with some adult beverages to lubricate the conversation.
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« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2011, 04:31:44 PM »
We sold the house and got rid of anything that wouldn't fit in the 5th. only thing that is stored at daughter's is pictures.
I scanned the ones we wanted and the kids are going to divide the rest. We planned this for probably half our married life (39 yrs).
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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2011, 07:43:27 PM »
Why do you have to have a motorhome rather than a trailer to be a "true" full-timer? My parents full-timed for 20 years in a trailer first then in a 5th wheel (which is, in essence, a trailer). For the first 15 years, everything they owned was in that trailer/5er except for a hope chest filled with "stuff" that was kept at my sister's. Then they bought an acre in Oregon with a well house and a deck and continued to travel full-time. I think they would argue with your definition of "full-timer."
 
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« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2011, 10:16:24 AM »
I don't think we could sell our house right now, sales are down like 90% and nothing is moving.  It's not an option.
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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2011, 07:28:16 AM »
My wife and I are pondering WHERE to have the "domicile."  Since we don't own, all we have to move around are a few belongings that can't go in the 5er.  We are looking having a place we can stay over between being in the western US and the southeastern US.  We are seriously considering a place in Michigan (we are originally from that great rust state) because we have family there.  This will provide us a lay over place as we head west in June and again as we are heading back to to the southeast area to winter come late September.
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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2011, 07:46:24 AM »
I do believe there is a tax advantage to having a home base. IRS use to say if you own a home then the tax on a motor home can be wrote off as a second home. You need to spend 10 days in the year in it must have kitchen and bathroom. We will try this starting next year as for now we are renting and will next year build a (small) home base house out of pocket. Small house for sure afterall if we can live in our MH why build anything big.
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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2011, 08:16:25 AM »
I think that fulltimers can deduct the interest on a loan to purchase the RV, because it is their residence. Check with your accountant.

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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2011, 09:13:09 AM »
Yes

I think if they are really full-time in true sense, they no longer have house.
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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2011, 09:39:39 AM »
As nuts says 10 days or more, sleep, eat and bathroom, can be deducted as second home.  Same for a boat.  We took advantage of that when we had a boat.  No loans on any of the RV's though. 

We started by selling the home and lots of the stuff.  Then bought in an RV park, then out for over a year, then sold place in RV park.  And the rest of accumulate stuff.  Now just in RV.  Full time.  We have address on RV lot bak in fl for tax voting etc.   This is the important thing full timers need, is an address, tied to a physical place.  Banks won't loan with just a po box.  Well they may, but when i was in sales, it was an issue.

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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2011, 10:21:55 AM »
To sell or keep is always a hard decision to make and everyone will have a different situation. We kept our house and use it as a home base for the following reasons. It was payed for, it's small (1400 sq ft), it's in a small town, it's maintenance free on the outside, the town we are in is next to a COE lake, we like the house and the area, We rent my old business shop building for boat storage, we can keep our own boat, we don't have to have a fulltime liability policy because we still have home owners insurance. We come back the same time every year for doctor and dental appointments and maintenance of the truck and trailer. Our time there varies depending on our travel plans  :D

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« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2011, 07:02:48 PM »
We voted for "Sell it"

We really wanted no stress, no ties. We will still come to our home town twice a year or so to visit the family but no property worries for us. We have already decided that if we settle down someday we will rent an apartment but for now and hopefully for a lot of years we are tie-less except for a safe deposit box.   We launch in april or May 2012. This is our last winter in the snow. Just had 4 inches of the white stuff yesterday, October??? Can't wait to leave it behind.

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« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2011, 07:22:20 PM »
We like our house, so we aren't technically "fulltimers".   We enjoy "coming home" as much as we enjoy "heading out" in the coach, so about 6 months a year in each.  But our home base is in rural Florida, and it was a retirement home itself, purchased for a "no worries" lifestyle.  In a sense, we bought two retirement homes - one fixed and one mobile.
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« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2011, 08:27:38 PM »
We are houseless but not homeless. Our undeveloped property in Sebring FL is waiting for us if we ever decide to end this lifestyle. To us this is a dream life choice, simple and rewarding.  To us "owning" a house was a pain in the butt !

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« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2011, 08:55:51 PM »
Hmmmm...... people talk like "fulltimer" is some sort of badge of courage or something. I guess I just don't get it. My older brother has lived fulltime in a trailer since we were kids. When he moved from Mom & Dad's trailer he moved into his own. 37 years now, same trailer. Doesn't go anywhere anymore, but lives fulltime in his RV and goes to work from there.

I have a stick house, a motorhome and a boat. We spend 7 months in the MH, 3 months in the boat and 2 months at the house each year. As near as I can tell that means I don't have that coveted fulltimer status, but it sure feels like I'm having more fun.

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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2011, 09:20:28 AM »
Hello all,

 I have a dream to be a fulltimer when its possible. I was wondering what other fulltimers do as far as thier house is concerned. Do you sell it or keep it? Thanks for your comments.

This is a hard question to answer because there are so many variables. Very very few want to keep their houses becasue of size, location, cost of maintenance just to name a few. We keep ours but it's in area we like, it's small in a small town next to a COE lake, it's payed for, it's maintenance free, taxes are low so is the insurance, we rent out my old shop buildings for boat storage. We go back there in May for all of our doctor and dentist appointments and use it for a home base for summer travel and then head back south for the winter. One other thing to look at is the cost of fulltimers liability insurance, if you have a house your liability covers you without any added insurance. 

We are keeping a open mind and may find somewhere else to to use as a base or settle when we are no longer on the road but so far after 5.5 years we haven't found that place yet.  Are we true fulltimers by someones definition, who really cares I know we don't. The best advise I can give you is do your homework and come up with a plan that fits your situation and don't worry titles or what everyone else is doing.

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« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2011, 10:44:44 AM »
Kept it! But like others here our house is on 20A in the Boondocks. Its small, paid for, has a large pond in the front yard, and is at the end of the road. We have neighbors who collect the mail (what there is of it) and forward it to us.
 
We return for a few weeks once or twice a year to take care of physicals and similar stuff. Maybe we're part timers, but it's a lot of part time. I just don't understand the people who have to make a distinction (actually I do, but think its silly). I could just as well make the case that since we travel 15,000 miles per year or more, we're full timers and those who only put 5,000 or so miles on the MH are not. At some point, the house becomes just a storage building!

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