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CDN_Taxman

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Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« on: June 22, 2010, 08:15:27 PM »
I have a 2009 F-150 with the standard mirrors and not the extendable towing mirrors. I really don't have a problem seeing the back of my trailer with the mirrors as is. Do I have to get towing mirrors or is this a question that varies state by state and province by province?

I'm in Ontario and heading down to New York in a month and wouldn't want an unnecessary ticket!

What are the better add on mirrors out there?

Mike
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 08:21:44 PM »
The details vary from one jurisdiction to another.  In my part of the world you have to be able to see 200 feet behind you, which in practice means that the mirrors do have to extend somewhat beyond the width of the trailer.

There are all kinds of them for sale out there.  Check Camping World and Etrailer.com.

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 08:45:12 PM »
I don't know if they are mandatory, but they sure make a lot of sense. The more you can see the better.

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 08:50:29 PM »
If you can see a car behind you with the standard mirrors.. you are good.

The towing mirrors are needed when you have a trailer that's 8.5' wide and a tow vehicle that's 7.. The mirrors can not see the car in back of the trailer.
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 09:07:06 PM »
When I had my F150 I seldom remembered to install the towing mirrors over the OEM pieces as I could easily see behind me and way more then what others have said - and I'm in New York State. What you will currently get a ticket for in NY is mainly for speeding and hand held cell phone use. State Troopers in NY have been told to write tickets, no warnings. The state budget was due on 01 April and there is still none in sight, so every ticket dollar counts to help keep this state in business :-[ :-[.

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 09:58:25 PM »
What you will currently get a ticket for in NY is mainly for speeding and hand held cell phone use.

Not a problem here! Pulling the trailer, I won't likely be speeding and it's too expensive to use my cell phone down there too!

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 08:48:35 AM »
I think you'd be hard pressed to find a trooper in any state that would write you a ticket for that. He might addd that as an afterthought to a speeding ticket if you were being exceptionally belligerent.
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 09:52:33 AM »
The best way to determine if you need them is... Line the TV & Trailer up dead straight. Then walk about 50' behind the trailer and sight straight down both sides of the trailer, if you cannot see the mirror then you DO need tow mirrors!!
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 10:22:09 AM »
Most "Equipment" tickets are issued secondary to something else (NOTE: MOST does not equal all, sometimes the car was stopped due to an equeptment issue, Tail lights out, Busted,  Windshield Cracked and such)

The law requires you have mirrors sufficent to see the car behind you.  IF the trailer is WIDER than the mirrors.. You thus need extensions.

Most poilce won't give mirrors a 2nd look unless someone developes a sudden leak in the radiator area (Assumes a front engine vehicle)

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2010, 10:33:17 AM »
Just a word about NY State Troopers. I made a less then 35 mile round trip from I-87 Exit 10 to Exit 4 this morning. There was a total of 11 different patrol cars and them having 4 cars stopped for some reason. They are very active trying to fill the State's coffers :o

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2010, 07:05:35 PM »
Do not be so sure it is the state's coffers they are trying to fill..

Remember Speed, Texting while driving, OUI and several other things troopers might stop you for KILL people.

IT may be they are trying to NOT fill the state's coffins.
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 08:15:12 PM »
Just a word about NY State Troopers. I made a less then 35 mile round trip from I-87 Exit 10 to Exit 4 this morning. There was a total of 11 different patrol cars and them having 4 cars stopped for some reason. They are very active trying to fill the State's coffers :o

I'll add that to the continually growing list of reasons why I will never return to the Northeast United States.
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 08:06:09 PM »
I bought a set for my 1/2 ton Ram from etrailer.com.  They made a world of difference when towing my travel trailer, which is wider than my truck mirors.  They fit over the factory mirrors and a slight vibration on the highway, but well worth the money.

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 09:32:28 PM »
I also have the stock mirrors.  Not the lil baby ones, but the medium ones that are steel/chrome and only stick out about 6, maybe 12 inches.  I have thought about getting the extenders but always worry they will vibrate and be worthless anyway.  When going straight, I can't see directly behind me, but I can see and look on every slight turn.  I guess I have pulled enough that it does not bother me, but If I was 100% assured some 30-50 dollar add one's would work I would probably get them.
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2010, 09:48:52 PM »
Tried on the "official 2009 F-150 extension mirrors today and found I only gained a very small improvement over what I can see now. So, I didn't buy them, but now know where I can find them.

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When driving forward I cannot see the back corners of my trailer, but as you said Derby, a small slight turn I know what's there. I've very comfortable pulling it and the two add ons would cost be over $ 100.00.

I'll be taking on this trip to New York next week for a two week period and if all goes well, then I won't bother  buying them.

Mike

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2010, 07:27:29 PM »
I have a 2003 Chevrolet that I tow with, I can tow short distance and dont worry with the extended mirrors, but if I am traveling a distance I feel more secure by putting them on due to I can see alot better who is coming up before they are there, I would us your better judgement on this one.

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2010, 09:28:16 AM »
Well, so far so good. Almost 2,500 miles and certainly no fears with the standard mirrors.

Now, that being said, I will buy the proper mirrors but certainly not here in Canada.

I'll be down in Rochester, NY next March. Is there a good trailer supplies place there?

Mike
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2010, 09:47:15 AM »
Not mandatory that I know of, just good common sense.

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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2010, 11:13:15 AM »
Just a bit of trivia - you can NOT have extended mirrors on your vehicle in Yellowstone Park if your not towing.
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2010, 01:13:14 PM »
I'll add that to the continually growing list of reasons why I will never return to the Northeast United States.

So you feel safer in states that do NOT enforce their traffic laws?
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2010, 06:08:53 PM »
Somewhere I think there is a rule that you have to be able to see a vehicle behind you in the mirrors...   I can check MICHIGAN law if you wish since I have a digital copy.  but.. There are 50 other states (IF you count Washington DC)
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2010, 08:02:11 PM »
Even with the CIPA addons, I still couldn't see directly behind the trailer. One of the reasons I didn't bother buying them.

Mike
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Re: Are Towing Mirrors Mandatory
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2010, 08:22:38 PM »
I don't think you will ever see directly behind the trailer without a camera system. I can see much farther behind me in the lane next to me in the towing mirrors than I see with the truck mirrors. On interstates I can see a little past the trailer with the truck mirrors. With the towing mirrors I can see far enough back to know it's safe to change lanes and nobody is coming up on me.
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