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« on: September 06, 2010, 03:37:59 PM »
Just got back from a long weekend, finally got the lp working, the fuel gauge came back
to life, the ref decided Lp wasn't bad and ran home in that mode, the only problem
is the damn left rear jack will not retract, so I jacked it back up to within a inch of home,
would not go any more, so I drove home with the stupid alarm buzzing but my stereo
was buzzing louder, all seemed good, got the rig back on our lot and shut down, hooked up power for the a/c, damn it is hot in Florida,  DW said can I open the rear bedroom slide, I said sure, and that is when the Crap started.....slide would not go out so I tried the front
slide, could hear the solenoid kick in but no go.  Went out back to check the hydraulic fluid
level, it was very level all across the concrete!!!!!!!! Can't find where it came out but I sure know where it is......so called a mobile RV guy and I'll let him handle it. 

Maybe he can fix the stupid Sony backup camera that failed tooooooo.......hey did I tell you folks we had a great time??  Stay safe..Phelpo


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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 05:34:12 PM »
I've had moments like that, but not with our Horizon. 

Our new-to-us 40' sailboat needed a lot of TLC when we bought it - it was ten years old and was most likely neglected for three or four years before our purchase.  Jane and I took three or four weeks of vacation and made another trip to the Bahamas from our home port of Cape Canaveral.  I had the starter on the propulsion diesel (we also had a diesel gen set) rebuilt before we left and sure enough it decided not to work very well by the time we got to Nassau.

Friends from Texas were meeting us to spend a week cruising with us, so the pressure was on to make a schedule, and for everything to work correctly.  The starter solenoid refused to work, so every time I needed to start the engine, I went into the engine room with a pair of pliers to jump the solenoid.  After a week of this, it got to be quite the joke and I was forced to pose with my pliers for a picture  ::).   

Then not even that would work.  I had a starter overnighted to Nassau - by the time I got through paying shipping and duty, the starter cost about $900.

And on another trip to the Bahamas, we lost reverse in the transmission.  That was okay as long as we were cruising around and anchoring.  Problem was we needed to return to the Cape and had to go through a lock on the barge canal to get to our marina.  I called the lockmaster and told him we had go, but no whoa.  It was exciting entering the lock with a following breeze and no reverse.

Then there was the time the original fuel filter clogged up and the engine wouldn't run over idle speed.

Then there was the time ...
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2010, 06:21:27 PM »
John is you want to match sailing mishaps, I go them.   Had a 32' Downeaster, weighed 17,000 dry...blue water
all the way.   Took it over to the Bahamas,  sailed all thru the diff islands, stopped at one where we decided to do a Bahamian anchor.......don't try this if you don't have a clue....well we thought we did.....crap.....wrapped the anchor line around the shaft and corkscrewed the engine off the motor mounts.  We are like no where.  I got
a fisherman to give me a ride to Walkers Key, hoped a flight make to Fl to pick up the mounts (from NY) the flew
back and got a ride back to the boat.  Raised the motor with a comalong, bolted them in and we were off.  There
was no way to sail out of this area with that boat.    Then there was the time in Key west when our anchor
let go and we were on the rocks in the harbor with a 50 mph wind blowing us again it.......called the coast guard
and they said where are you, we said 1/4 mile south of you on the f'in rocks.  next question, what is the color of your boat, hell were the only ones on the rock dumby......finally they came over and pulled us out, we were taken
on water........was not a petty picture.
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 07:59:58 PM »
Would you like to hear about the day the mast went overboard in high winds and high seas on Lake Michigan?  Or the time the rudder post broke a 100 feet from a rubble wall and we had no steerage with a onshore breeze?  Sailboats can be exciting :)
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 08:41:01 PM »
We need a "you can't believe what happened to me on/with my _____"   ;D ;D
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2010, 08:57:59 PM »
I can't beat any of those...but.I did flip my airboat once and had to bail out of it twice to keep from getting "tree-ed".
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2010, 09:04:25 PM »
Man you guy's gotta keep this post going, makes me feel alot better about my problems ;D
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 08:25:13 AM »
so Ned why did you throw your mast overboard????? Was it bad????? Never lost a mast, my mind but not a mast, Ned your mast helps you sail, (well sometimes).

I have a mobile rv mech coming thursday to see what the heck I blew out to cause my hyd fluid to float on the concrete...

Isn't rying fun???????

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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 09:12:26 AM »
Phelpo,

An upper shroud parted inside a swedged fitting due to hidden corrosion that caused broken strands in the wire rope.  To this day, I do not trust swedging.  Several other boat owners had their rigging either x-rayed or magnafluxed after that happened and some found hidden corrosion inside their swedged fittings.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2010, 10:25:46 AM »
What is swedging?
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2010, 10:42:12 AM »
Swedging (or swaging) is defined as:

Swaging is a metal-forming technique in which the dimensions of an item are altered using a die or dies, into which the item is forced.[1] Swaging is a forging process, usually performed cold, however it can be done hot.[2]

In my case, the shroud made of wire rope was inserted into a hollow tube-like fitting and then cold rolled under pressure to lock the wire rope inside the fitting.  What happened was several strands of the wire rope broke inside the fitting, obvious when we saw the ends that pulled out were rusted, weakening the swage causing the failure under tension.

More information than you really want to know is at Wikipedia.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2010, 10:46:11 AM »
And here I thought it involved a bottle and consumption of liquid refreshment, sometimes after the event in question.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2010, 10:57:13 AM »
Considerable liquids were consumed once we reached dry land that day.  But that was swilling :)
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2010, 11:40:41 AM »
So Ned I am appalled that you hadn't maintained your swedging,  isn't that a capital offense???

Man I was checking mine every 10 yrs or so.......

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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2010, 11:55:24 AM »
Did you x-ray or use some other non-destructive method?  There is no way to visually check swedging short of destructive testing.
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2010, 02:34:38 PM »
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To this day, I do not trust swedging.

  In your opinion, what is the alternative to swaging/swedging? And if there is one what is the failure rate on those?

Do the America Cup boats use swaging?

  Just curious..

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2010, 03:20:20 PM »
Multiple cable clamps, while not pretty, are much easier to inspect.  I have no idea what the AC boats are using these days.  I lost interest in that event when they stopped sailing real boats.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2010, 06:32:20 PM »
I (as in me, myself) installed new rigging on my sailboat and like Ned, I wanted no part of swedged fittings.  I used Sta-Lok fittings.  They can be easily assembled with simple hand tools and are essentially bullet-proof.  Another popular fitting was a Cast-Lock which used epoxy in the cable end fitting.  They apparently aren't in business any longer.
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2010, 06:49:33 PM »
John, I had forgotten about Sta-Lok.  They can be taken apart for inspection and then reused, a big advantage.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2010, 06:54:53 PM »
Gosh - looks like I started the mother of all thread-drift  ::)  ;D
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2010, 07:02:03 PM »
John, considering the topic subject, it covers pretty much anything :)
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2010, 08:02:07 PM »
John, considering the topic subject, it covers pretty much anything :)

Even TPT redux ;D ;D
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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2010, 08:42:23 AM »
I'm not feeling the Love on this thread anymore....or any less!

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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2010, 10:41:23 AM »
John you ever sail into the Little Abaco series of islands?   Where we tore the engine up was in Carter Cay.

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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2010, 12:31:24 PM »
Not more than a dozen trips  ;D
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2010, 02:27:04 PM »
hey did I see a corgi in your pics?    We have Bailey 14 month old tri color......if so I knew there was something
I liked about you.....just couldn't put my finger on it. then I was some Wyoming pics,  moved from there in 1986.. Casper that is.

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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2010, 04:39:24 PM »
hey did I see a corgi in your pics?

But of course - here's Sassy (and we have a rescue kitty.)
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2010, 07:04:02 AM »
Hey Sassy looks like our first Corgi, Boomer.......they are great dogs.   I'm off to the rig to met the mobile
rv mech, hopefully and prayerfully it will be a small problem.

Oh, I found out the water hose reel's power comes from the same source as the power cord reel.

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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2010, 08:08:35 AM »
An RV is a hole in the road now which you pour money!!!

Best RV is a comfortable van and stay at a bed & breakfast.....

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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2010, 08:15:09 AM »
An RV is a hole in the road now which you pour money!!!

Best RV is a comfortable van and stay at a bed & breakfast.....

budster.
My hole in the road costs a lot less than a mortgage payment. And it cost way less than any bead and breakfast.

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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2010, 08:42:51 PM »
tom nice pics
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« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2010, 08:11:27 PM »
You want to talk about a bad day boating?  Check this out:

http://rsanityrvtravels.blogspot.com/2010/08/rescuing-rescuers.html

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« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2010, 09:21:51 PM »
I have a lot of respect for the Coasties who risk their lives in many cases to serve others.  Unfortunately they sometimes wind up risking their lives due to poorly educated boaters possibly operating poorly maintained or inadequately equipped vessels.  Over many years of boating and listening to countless hours of marine VHF channel 16, we heard a little bit of everything.  Once I remember a boater calling the Coast Guard saying their anchor was dragging.  The weather was nice and the caller was somewhere around the waterway.
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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2010, 07:44:44 AM »
You're right John.  I've seen many dumb things, too.  We call it: "Saving the Boaters from Themselves".  ;D

At least it's steady work...and it paid for my RV.  People ask me why did I get an RV instead of a boat?   I tell them when I break down, at least I can walk for help.

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« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2010, 12:22:21 PM »
I once, as a teen, took a 21' whaler off the coast of SC to fish, after leaving the second fuel tank sitting in the 7-11 parking lot. That was an Oh Crap Day! Got towed back by another friendly fisherman. All's well that ends well.
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2010, 05:17:16 PM »
Quick story...

I was relocated to Orlando from Dallas and we had our 28' sailboat transported from Lake Texoma to a marina on the Florida west coast (north of Hudson Bend).  I had a slip arranged in Hudson Bend so I made arrangements for myself to single-hand the boat offshore from point a to point b (our new marina.)

It wasn't a long trip - forgot how long it should have been.  Left in the afternoon and got about a mile offshore and went hard aground on a falling tide (it is very shallow there.)  No water, no food - it was going to be a short trip.  All of the provisions were safely locked up in the car ashore  ::).

Called our new marina on the VHF asking for my cooler to be brought out to the boat.  No problem - it will be xx$ an hour.  Fine - I'm hungry and thirsty - whatever.  He came out in a dingy (I'm about a mile offshore and the new marina was a couple of miles south) that won't plane - it had like a 5 or 6 horse motor on the transom.  An hour later he comes out to my hard aground sailboat to get the keys to unlock the car.  Back to shore.  Unlock the car, grab the cooler.  Dingy the cooler to me.  Dingy back.  The meter is running.

Then Florida Marine Patrol stops by and informs me I can't anchor in the channel.  I was hot, tired, hungry, thirsty, embarrassed - it was a darn good thing I didn't have a weapon of mass destruction handy.

Jane was safely and comfortably housed back in Orlando so I felt the need to share my misery (we do like company.)  Further adding to the expense of the weekend I phoned her via the marine operator.  I'll bet everybody listening had a good laugh, so did we when the bill arrived.

As I recall, I did throw out the anchor, spent the night in the channel (not a busy one fortunately) and putted in the next morning to our new marina.
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2010, 07:52:36 PM »
ok one of my stupid boating mess ups, (no blodd involved in this one)  the dw and I buy a
32' Downeaster and sail it out of West Palm Beach, since we were from Wyoming we promised
ourselves we would not do any overnighters til we got better at sailing.  Well we are sailing along down the coast going south, and after many hours stop a water tower, great we'll know where we are......well we hardly moved much down the coast due to the current.  Current,
what is that, that is supposed to be in rivers, right?  Well sure enought the sun goes down
and we have not reached our portyet, even with the diesel running, so turn on the light so those fishing folks can see us, well the darn port light will not come on, so I turn on the house lights,  finally we get to the entrance we are looking for and slowly turn into the intercoastal,
but where to go?  It is like midnight now so we turn south and run into the coastguard inspecting a go fast boat, next they pull us over and board us, great.....ask what the heck are you doing out here at this time, I tell them that is a damn good question,  anyway we ak where
a marina is and he says well I can't recomend anyone but if you go under the next drawbridge
you might find one, sure enought there was one and we ran smack damn into a piling and bent
the life lines,
 
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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2010, 07:54:20 PM »
oh and by the way I got the ram out and the hoses off and have new ones coming from
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2010, 01:54:10 AM »
You guys are making me nervous.  Looking at moving from
sail to RV  and guess I better hurry before my luck runs out.
only problem is that damn pond.  maybe they ought to build
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« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2010, 07:19:42 AM »
Rick lots of ex-boaters and current boaters here.  Our Horizon was supposed to be a used 42' Nordhaven - my plan was to take it to Europe and cruise around there for a couple of years.  I even had a marina picked out in London  ???
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« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2010, 12:47:23 PM »
London!  I love London.  So does my wife, especially Harrod's.   :o

That must be some story, going from the plans for sailing around Europe, to becoming a Rancher in TX. 

We're glad you did, you've become quite an expert resource for us Winnie owners!  ;)

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« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2010, 01:13:10 PM »
When I hear these sailing stories, I realize (1) how lucky I've been never to have been bitten by the bug and (2) how much like work sailing is.

I did have a tragic incident at sea once, though:  I was at the observation deck bar on the Holland America SS Amsterdam, off the coast of Alaska, listing to starboard (me, not the Amsterdam) when the bartender accidentally spilled the last bottle of Jack Daniels while refilling the peanut bowls!  I was forced to survive on nothing but food and water until the ship made land at Skagway and a new supply was brought aboard.  I still have nightmares!......
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« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2010, 05:08:10 PM »
Paul - thanks!!

Bob & Sue - I feel your pain!  I vividly remember when the sun deck bar on one of the Seaborne ships ran out of Mount Gay rum   ;D :o - we were there!  Jane and I have maybe a dozen or 15 (20?) cruises behind us - we have over 100 days on Seaborne Cruise Line alone.
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« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2010, 05:58:13 PM »
Sad, Sad story John.  If I'd have had to go without for the whole rest of the cruise instead of just to Skagway, they would have had to lash me to the disco ball!

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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2010, 09:33:43 AM »
Well yesterday I replaced the two hyd lines in the bedroom.   Purchased them from Rvleveling
I had a friend at the park help me, I pushed the new lines thru the framing to the outside
and attached the lines to the ram.   He pushed and I pulled the lines back until the two
allen headed holes were correct.  Attached these bolts with locktight and reattached the lines
to the org lines in the engine compartment.   Greasy, greasy, what a mess,  anyway it was time to flip the switch to push the ram out to the end of the slide, (prayed) and yes it went out
slowly,  finally got the large bolt and cover attached and then returned the slide.   It took a
while due to the line having to drain itself of air.  But it worked.   I have no idea what the cost would have been if I took it to a repair shop.  But  the two lines were about $40 each.  I covered the lines with the plastic wrap, just like the factory did.

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« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2010, 12:43:33 PM »
Good job - did you take pictures?
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« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2010, 05:53:42 AM »
John, you are the leader, and as a good soldier I followed your orders.  Now I need to figure out how to up load them......I only got a string...Damn :'(

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