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Paul UK

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Brit touring US....ANY advice appreciated!
« on: October 31, 2010, 07:00:22 PM »
OK there seems to be a few posts regarding this question but in my case it's a bit different so here goes....

I'm taking early retirement in December and considering touring the US. I've toured extensively throughout europe using a small Ford campervan but each trip had been limited by having to return back to the UK due to work. I may well eventually sell my house and move to live in europe but before I do i'm seriously thinking of doing a US tour....possibly for up to three years.

Now.....i'm a single 60yr old guy used to driving solo and would be travelling alone. So when it comes to choice of motorhome i'm not necessarily looking for masses of space. It has to be economical, practical to use anywhere, cheap and simple to get any mechanical parts, have a rear fixed bed, all weather use (winterised), and good for long distance travel.

Do I buy privately or from a dealer?

Florida seems to have a large number of RV dealers around and is easy to get to from the UK but is there any particular state/s which is best to buy from, i.e. taxation, price, insurance etc?

I've looked at a few RV dealer sites in the US to get some idea of price and whats available and feel that a C class may be my best bet (full blown A class RV's are simply too big for my needs.....and expensive to run). I notice though that most C class RV's seem to be petrol (gas) engine and i've not seen any diesel. Is this generally the rule?

Back here in the UK I had an old Ford Transit diesel campervan. Engine and box would throb away all day every day, was extremely economical to run, but most of all I could still get parts for it anywhere throughout europe. It helped of course that Ford is common as muck over here and there are Ford Garages in virtually every town or city. So what is the make/model to go for in the US? What is 'common as muck' (as we say here) which makes it cheap to buy (because there are plenty around), and easy to obtain any parts in any state?

My plan is to fly out, view a few RV's, buy one then ride off into the sunset! If that sounds mad......well I am British after all!  ;)

Any thoughts, views and pointers to useful websites will be most appreciated.

Finally.....if my plan does come off I will be looking for temporary accomodation whilst I look around for a suitable RV so here is a chance for any budding amateur 'hoteliers'!  :)


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Re: Brit touring US....ANY advice appreciated!
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 10:22:43 PM »
Hi Paul and welcome to The RV Forum.

In addition to the messages here, you might want to check our forum library by clicking the Library button above.

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... i'm seriously thinking of doing a US tour....possibly for up to three years.

Be aware that you'll only be allowed into the U.S. for a maximum of 6 months at a time. The actual limit will be set by the Agent at the airport or other border crossing. If you smile and talk politely, s/he'll give you 6 months. Most long-term visitors get around the 6 months limit by leaving the country (e.g. by crossing into Canada) for a few weeks, and returning to restart the clock. However, we've heard/read of a few isolated incidents where returning Brits weren't allowed back into the U.S., apparently because it was "obvious' they were merely trying to circumvent the rules.

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It has to be economical, practical to use anywhere, cheap and simple to   get any mechanical parts, have a rear fixed bed, all weather use   (winterised), and good for long distance travel.

Since you're talking about a class C, don't expect much in the way of fuel economy. OTOH our petrol (and diesel) prices are half of what you pay in the UK. The term "winterised" here means something different, i.e. it means that the RV has been prepared for winter storage. "All weather" is somewhat subjective, and few if any class C's will be suitable for the really cold climates in our northern states during the winter. It might help to know where you think you might be that needs cold weather protection.

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Do I buy privately or from a dealer?

Your choice but, assuming you're buying second hand, you might get a better deal buying privately.

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... is there any particular state/s which is best to buy from, i.e. taxation, price, insurance etc?

Covered at length in prior discussions and in our library.

What's your budget for buying this RV, and what's the age expectation?

I can't think of any diesel powered class C's off the top of my head, but maybe others will jump in with some suggestions.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 03:50:16 PM »
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Be aware that you'll only be allowed into the U.S. for a maximum of 6 months at a time.
Suspected this. Looks like I will need to examine the Visa requirements more as 6 months to tour the US is no use to me at all.


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Since you're talking about a class C, don't expect much in the way of fuel economy. OTOH our petrol (and diesel) prices are half of what you pay in the UK. The term "winterised" here means something different, i.e. it means that the RV has been prepared for winter storage. "All weather" is somewhat subjective, and few if any class C's will be suitable for the really cold climates in our northern states during the winter. It might help to know where you think you might be that needs cold weather protection.
Blimey! With a C class being smaller than an A class i'd have expected fuel economy to be better. What make/model type is common over there.....easy to obtain parts for and economic to maintain? In other words, basic but solid and reliably engineered. The more electronic 'gizzmo's' the more there is to go wrong which equates to expensive maintenance costs.

Don't know much about your weather 'pattern' but gather it's generally warmer on the west coast during winter than on the east or up north? So i'd try to plan to avoid the colder areas as much as possible.

Here any 'brit' motorhome folk touring europe go down to Spain, Portugal or Morocco over winter when the weather is fine and also no tourists around! Then as the south begins to warm up they head up north where it's cooler......and of course avoiding the tourists. Best of both worlds!


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Your choice but, assuming you're buying second hand, you might get a better deal buying privately.
Any website links where I can find private sellers?


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What's your budget for buying this RV, and what's the age expectation?
Up to $30,000.
Age doesn't bother me if the 'spec' is right, condition A1, and is up to the job.


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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2010, 05:04:43 PM »
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Looks like I will need to examine the Visa requirements more ...

All you needed to know about temporary visitor visas, including the Visa Waiver Program. However, remember that the actual time of your stay will be determined by the agent at the port of entry. In any event, it will not be longer than 6 months at a time, so plan some crossing of our northern or southern border in order to restart the clock.

There is an option to apply for an extended stay once here. I don't recall the form number (might be I-539), but it's spelled out either in a prior conversation or in one of the articles in our library. I don't know how long an extension they'd give you, and we've only had one Brit report that he used it.

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With a C class being smaller than an A class i'd have expected fuel economy to be better.

It probably is, but it's all relevant. Our old gas (petrol) class A used to do around 5 miles per gallon (that would be US gallons). Our current diesel motorhome (much bigger and heavier) does around 9.8 mph.

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What make/model type is common over there.....easy to obtain parts for and economic to maintain? In other words, basic but solid and reliably engineered.

I couldn't answer that directly, but $30,000 will get you a decent second hand class C. When it comes to parts, etc think chassis rather than make and model of motorhome. The common ones will be on a Chevy (Chevrolet) or Ford chassis. Newer models will be on a Sprinter chassis made by Mercedes Benz, Dodge, or Freightliner, and it's diesel. Here's an example of one.

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Don't know much about your weather 'pattern' but gather it's generally warmer on the west coast during winter than on the east or up north?

Few Brits understand the size of the US or the widely varying climates. We live in California (west coast) and enjoy relatively mild winters. Our daughter lives just a few hours north of us, also in California, but she gets a lot of snow. An hour or so north of her and they get some serious winter weather. For calibration, we're as far from the east coast as you are.

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Any website links where I can find private sellers?

eBay and Craig's list are used by many folks.

Before your trip, be sure to view and download/print one or more of the checklists in our forum library. They might save you some pain when buying a motorhome.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2010, 05:39:03 PM »
Frogot to mention that you can get some idea of prices if you go to NADA Price Guides and click on the RVs tab. After selecting a make/model/year, do not select any of the options before asking for a price guide.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2010, 07:17:03 PM »
Few Brits understand the size of the US or the widely varying climates. We live in California (west coast) and enjoy relatively mild winters. Our daughter lives just a few hours north of us, also in California, but she gets a lot of snow. An hour or so north of her and they get some serious winter weather. For calibration, we're as far from the east coast as you are.

eBay and Craig's list are used by many folks.

Before your trip, be sure to view and download/print one or more of the checklists in our forum library. They might save you some pain when buying a motorhome.

Thanks for that.

Craigslist looks very interesting with some amazingly cheap prices.  :) Even spotted a motorhome at $2850!! Looked pretty tidy too considering its age. You would not be able to buy even a campervan over here at that sort of price. $10-11,000 is the absolute minimum start price. Life in UK is hellish expensive.

Looks like I will have to figure something out re. the 6 month visa business.


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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 08:09:23 PM »
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Life in UK is hellish expensive.

Having lived there for 32 years, I fully understand. OTOH I've been amazed at the wealth accumulated by folks since we left.

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Looks like I will have to figure something out re. the 6 month visa business.

Gave you all the options I'm aware of.
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2010, 08:32:41 PM »
Having lived there for 32 years, I fully understand. OTOH I've been amazed at the wealth accumulated by folks since we left.

Gave you all the options I'm aware of.

I won't ask why you left......I can guess!

I want to see the US as over the years i've formed a biased opinion of the people and the country influenced largely by watching TV documentaries. That's not really any good as I know from touring many of the more obscure areas of Europe, particularly the ex-DDR areas, you have to get out and meet the people. I've been in areas of east Poland and the Ukraine where no english is spoken at all. But I got by ok and had fun communicating!

I'm a bit of a 'culture vulture' and like to meet people from different backgrounds.....rich, poor, black, white, whatever....it doesn't bother me. Never really been a city lover (I like the peace of the open country), yet have been drawn back to Berlin many many times.....and would go again!

I've seen one or two very nice C class and even B class on Craigslist at very tempting prices. I prefer something reasonably compact that is driveable anywhere. An A class would just be far too big for one person despite many selling for prices not much more than what a used car sells for over here! But whatever I go for it has to be liveable 24/7.

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2010, 10:07:54 PM »
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I won't ask why you left......I can guess!

An offer I couldn't refuse; I worked for a California company in (not so) sunny South Wales for 10 years before being asked to transfer to HQ.

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... i've formed a biased opinion of the people and the country influenced largely by watching TV documentaries.

Don't believe everything you see on TV (or the internet). I watch and listen to a lot of documentaries on the Beeb, and never fail to smile at the narrow perspective. We've traveled across the US numerous times over the last 30 years, both on business and for pleasure, but wouldn't attempt to form any opinions. There's a huge diversity of people and cultures, and most folks are just downright nice people.

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.... touring many of the more obscure areas of Europea ...  you have to get out and meet the people. I've been in areas of east Poland and the Ukraine where no english is spoken at all.

A man after my own heart. I spent more time in Asia than I care to remember, but always enjoyed wandering out into the sticks in, for example, Japan where no English is spoken outside the major cities.

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But I got by ok and had fun communicating!

That's always fun. One of my favourite stories is about negotiating with a taxi driver in Indonesia by scribbling in the dirt with a stick.

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... have been drawn back to Berlin many many times.....and would go again!

Me too. I have a photo around here somewhere of me by the wall, when there still was a wall in the 70's, and another years later when the wall was gone.

I'm sure you'll have a great time wandering around the U.S. and meeting people. Be sure to post your plans here, as we have members all across the U.S., and many would be glad to extend a welcome if your travels take you near where they're based. In fact, a number of visiting Brits have met various forum members. Many of our members have developed lasting friendships through meeting at campgrounds, and many of us seek each other out as we travel, often camping at or near each other's homes.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 06:57:50 PM »
BTW where in the UK are you Paul? Just curious.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2010, 08:01:47 PM »
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Don't believe everything you see on TV (or the internet). I watch and listen to a lot of documentaries on the Beeb, and never fail to smile at the narrow perspective.
I certainly don't, though said that documentaries is one of the few things the Beeb really does excell at.

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I have a photo around here somewhere of me by the wall, when there still was a wall in the 70's, and another years later when the wall was gone.
I used to tune in to RBI (Radio Berlin International), the East German radio station transmitting to the west on shortwave. When the wall came down in '89 it all happened so quickly I was torn between RBI and watching the news on television!

My interest in Germany is WW2 history and also post war, in particular the ex-DDR. I had read books and watched documentary footage of 'life in the east', but felt that I was being 'fed' by the western propaganda. I wanted to meet people who had lived and grown up behind the wall.....not just read about what my own country wanted me to believe. So each time i've been out to east Germany and met many from there.

If like me you are fascinated by Berlin, Matt Frei, a BBC journalist made an excellent three part documentary about the city. It is one of the best i've seen in a long time and certainly recommend viewing. Frei is German though speaks better english than most Brits! His parents are also Berliners and still live there. He is currently the BBC's political correspondent in Washington so you may even have seen him on US television. It is simply called "Berlin" and you can find it on any good DVD retailer.

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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 08:36:57 PM »
I watch Matt Frei and his cohort Kathy Kates (sp ?) daily on BBC America. I also listen to Matt's podcasts. But, I have to say that he's a bit naiive about the USA.

I'll look for his documentary on Berlin; Sounds good, thanks.

So, where in the UK are you located?
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2010, 03:39:08 AM »
Don't forget about Canada.  We spell words properly compared to the the Yanks.    :)

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2010, 07:50:55 AM »
So, where in the UK are you located?

In Cheshire right on the Staffs border with the closest town (to me) being Newcastle-under-Lyme.


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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2010, 08:04:50 AM »
Don't forget about Canada.  We spell words properly compared to the the Yanks.    :)
With the six month US Visa 'business' this may well be a good idea.

Yes American English is always of some amusement to 'brit's'. However, the UK is often subject to 'americanisation' in many aspects of daily life, not only political but in many other areas. As the saying here goes..."what America gets today Britain gets tomorrow". It often turns out to be true. We don't get mega cheap diesel or petrol (gas)! Our price is more than double theirs.  >:(

But we did get their barmy ban on smoking in public places which decimated the licencing trade and closed down thousands of Pubs (Bars) due to the smoking ban.

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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2010, 12:04:14 PM »
Do I buy privately or from a dealer?

Rvtraderonline.com is a resource. Craigslist will have better bargains.

I don't see any reason to have a diesel in a Class C. I doubt there are many anyway. Gas is cheaper here (usually). Parts for the vehicle won't be that much of an issue. You will want to make sure all the applicances and stuff work. As the year of the vehicle gets older, then parts for those items may be less easy to find.

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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2010, 01:06:43 PM »
Thanks Flyboy.

Noticed very few diesel engines apart from some of the bigger A class. I suppose my intention of going for diesel over petrol (gas) is typically brit in that our fuel is so highly taxed here, if buying a motorhome then a diesel engine is virtually top of the list! But then considering your used mh/rv prices are much cheaper than ours (and I mean quite seriously a lot cheaper!), it won't bother me to get a gas engined rv/mh.

Until earlier this year I owned a 17 year old campervan. Diesel engine 2.5 direct injection Ford Transit. Crude, basic and simple engineering that engine would go forever and a day. Even ran it on veg oil a few times which was ok as long as you had the right pump! 35-38mpg on long runs and I could still easily get parts off the shelf for it.

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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2010, 03:49:42 PM »
In Cheshire right on the Staffs border with the closest town (to me) being Newcastle-under-Lyme.
That sounds right near ROF Radway Green, which is well known to older Yanks in
the military and where I once did penance for my sins in a life now very distant. 
I have been in the US since 1982, UK and Kuwait before that.

Anyway, any Brit coming for anything more than a one-off fortnight's holiday is strongly
advised to get a visitor's visa through the US Embassy in London.  As one who studied
immigration law long ago let me repeat that - get a visa from the US Embassy if you intend
to do something like buying a vehicle (as contrasted with merely renting one).

And never ever overstay (3 months) an entry on a visa waiver. Visitor's visa (same thing as B2 visa)
allows for a six month stay which can be extended for good reason. Overstaying a visitor's visa
entry is not recommended but forgiveness is possible in some circumstances. But none of that
applies to a visa waiver entry. Overstaying a three month visa waiver entry will almost always
result in a  semi-permanent ban from the USA.

If things have not changed a lot you apply for a B2 visa and they give you both B1 (business trip)
and B2 (tourism) visas.

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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2011, 01:12:28 PM »
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That sounds right near ROF Radway Green.....
Know it well......I worked there for the past 27 years until recently taking early retirement. Just over a month now since I finished but still getting used to changes, particularly sleep patterns after having done shift work most of the time.

Still 'toying' with the idea of touring the US by flying out with as little luggage as poss, buying a suitable sized motorhome (don't need anything huge), and driving off into the sunset. Sounds simple and it should be. Unfortunately the Visa business is a bit restrictive as six months isn't much to do coast to coast plus more. I may well need to look at options as mentioned by Tom. I want to see the US........not race through it!

Florida seems to be a good start point as it's easy to access from the UK and there seems to be lots of dealers there plus I found many private sellers there as well. Something like this appeals to me http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/rvs/2168799113.html the size of which is plenty big enough for me. Here in the UK you would easily pay double that price for something similar, though it would be diesel powered, not petrol (gas).

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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2011, 12:38:52 AM »
The six month tourism visa allows entry to be extended for good reason. For example you planned to complete your tour in 5.5 months but find extra time is needed. It is of course, all at the discretion of the immigration officer.

Every State capital has an ICE (Immigration and Customs) office. If it is a State relatively rarely used as an international entry point the that may be (almost?) the only ICE office in the state. Presenting yourself to apply at an ICE office in a State capital (often State capitals are relatively small cities, for example Dover, Delaware or Montpelier, Vermont (pop. 8000!)) means that is an excellent change the office is not busy and you will get friendly personal attention without waiting around all day.  If you seem genuine and friendly they will extend without fuss, if not you have to leave but can reenter for another six months after a few weeks back home in the UK.

I imagine it has been a while since ROF Radway Green made 303 British ammo for the Enfield rifles. That's one of the joys of visiting Florida, it won't be hard to find someone keen to take you to the shooting range to show you their Enfield and Garand and the like and let you pop off some ammo that you just might have had a hand in making years ago.

Again, if you are the least bit serious get a passport with a goodly fraction of its ten year life left to run and get a proper tourist visa. Do it before you need it because these things always take longer any time you are in a hurry.

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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2011, 06:48:37 AM »
Yes six months isn't anywhere near enough time for what I would plan. I'd need double that.....minimum, and maybe even 18 month. Interesting info about the more remote ICE offices. My passport is due to run out in Jan 2012 so I need to apply for a new one anyway. Still......I have a fair way to go yet as i'm looking at selling up my property.


I imagine it has been a while since ROF Radway Green made 303 British ammo for the Enfield rifles. That's one of the joys of visiting Florida, it won't be hard to find someone keen to take you to the shooting range to show you their Enfield and Garand and the like and let you pop off some ammo that you just might have had a hand in making years ago.

303? Blimey!! No idea when we stopped making that but it was a very long time ago, somewhere during mid 70's I think. There simply isn't a commercial market for 303. It's all 5.56 and 7.62 now.

Believe it or not i've only ever fired a few rounds of 5.56 and it's not uncommon to find someone who may have worked their entire life at Radway but never fired even one round!

If I manage to eventually make it to your country one place i'd be interested in looking at is the Lake City plant. Whether I could charm my way to get an inside look is another matter, but I reckon my credentials hold up pretty good and they would always be free to check me out via BAE! Radway Green was privatised and sold off with other RO factories in the mid 80's to what was then British Aerospace, now known as BAE Systems.


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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2011, 10:45:11 AM »
There is a place in Texas that has a large selection of RV's for sale, all on consignment. That is they don't own them but sell for private owners. This may offer the best of both worlds. They must look after the buyer and seller in a deal and of course themselves. They usually have pretty good deals but more important there web site has a large selection, and you should get a good idea of what is for sale here in the US and the prices. Give them a browse mate and learn all you can.
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/
 
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2011, 02:19:32 PM »
Don't know if this is correct but I was under the impression you need to have a residential address in the usa to buy an rv. Can someone verify this.


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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2011, 02:41:55 PM »
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.... I was under the impression you need to have a residential address in the usa to buy an rv.

Not to buy an RV Alan, but an address would be required to register it. That could be a residential address or a company address in the state where it's being registered. Some folks use a service for mail forwarding, and they can comment if they're allowed to use the address of the forwarding service for vehicle registration &/or insurance.
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2011, 02:59:43 PM »
Not to buy an RV Alan, but an address would be required to register it. That could be a residential address or a company address in the state where it's being registered. Some folks use a service for mail forwarding, and they can comment if they're allowed to use the address of the forwarding service for vehicle registration &/or insurance.


Thanks for that Tom


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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2011, 04:48:35 PM »
Alan,

I haven't looked it in a while, but there's an article in our library called Guide for buying an RV in the USA.
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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2011, 06:07:54 PM »
Take a look at Gulfstream BT Cruisers (earlier then 2005) and the price point may be what you are looking at.  Found one that looks pretty nice on RVtraderonline.  Here is the link you can copy paste in "http://www.rvtraderonline.com/find/listing/2005-Gulf-Stream-Bt-Cruiser-96719747".  Located in Connecticut.  One thing you need to consider is sales taxes, license fees, registration fees and perhaps emission fees.  All of that adds to the bottom line.  I think most small diesels are above your price point but keep looking.  Good luck and perhaps we will see you in Colorado some day.

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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2011, 04:31:22 PM »
Thanks for that Gary.

Thats not a bad size and ample enough for me. Certainly cant see much point in going any more than 30ft max for one person anyway! From reading various ads i've now realised the percentage of diesel engined is quite small against gas, whereas here in UK and Europe it's the opposite with 99% of used motorhomes being diesel. In fact anyone who has a gas engined one here would struggle to sell it!

Yes cost of taxes, licencing/registering etc does concern me as I believe they vary according to State?

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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2011, 04:40:59 PM »
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Yes cost of taxes, licencing/registering etc does concern me as I believe they vary according to State?

Yes, very significantly.

For clarification, when folks here talk about "taxes", we're usually talking about annual 'property tax' or 'use tax'; The closest analogy would be your poll tax, or what used to be called rates; It's a county or state tax on RVs and boats, and we have some something similar on real estate here in California.

Separately, don't forget to add sales tax to the purchase price. Unlike your VAT, sales tax is not included in published prices, and this varies by state, county, and even by city. Some states have no sales tax, whilst others can be up to 10% or so, but still a lot less than your 20% VAT.

Vehicle license/registration costs vary quite significantly by state.
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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2011, 11:40:35 AM »

Separately, don't forget to add sales tax to the purchase price. Unlike your VAT, sales tax is not included in published prices, and this varies by state, county, and even by city. Some states have no sales tax, whilst others can be up to 10% or so, but still a lot less than your 20% VAT.

Vehicle license/registration costs vary quite significantly by state.

Hmmmm.....I like the sound of no sales tax!!  :)
But would I be right is assuming that any kind of tax is only applied to a vehicle sold from a dealer and not a private seller?

Obviously i'd need to register even if buying from a private seller, so how much does this cost and when you say it can 'vary quite significantly by state'.........how significant?



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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2011, 12:08:32 PM »
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... would I be right is assuming that any kind of tax is only applied to a vehicle sold from a dealer and not a private seller?

I don't know about other states, but here in California they get the sales tax from you when you register a used vehicle.

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Obviously i'd need to register even if buying from a private seller, so how much does this cost and when you say it can 'vary quite significantly by state'.........how significant?

The only way to know if to visit the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) or State Board of Equalization web site for individual states. Here's the relevant page of the California BOE web site.
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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2011, 12:13:01 PM »
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Here is a link to another board that has a lot of posts about the cost of plates in various states. The price can vary from $100 to $3,000, so it really matters.
 
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/motorhome-tags-plates-how-much-83315.html
 
If a given state has sales tax or something similar then you would be expected to pay it no matter where you bought the coach. It's collected when you register the coach or car.
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2011, 01:57:09 PM »
Paul,

I forgot to suggest that you could use the Search button above to find numerous answers to the question if you search for "registration fees" (including the quotes).
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2011, 07:56:24 AM »
Blimey!!!

Colorado $2,500.00  :o :o

Louisiana $25.00

Why cant you guys get it together and make it one flat rate fee throughout?!! Though I can see that would please some but infuriate others!
But why such a huge difference between one State and another? Ten or twenty dollars fine ok.....but thousands!!!

At this rate it looks like I may well be buying in Louisiana! (Must be a catch in this somewhere!)  ;D

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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2011, 12:03:56 PM »
LOL Paul, it can be tough for a visitor to understand. Unlike the UK with its centralized government, individual states have wide powers and responsibilities (see here) which, in turn, need funding. Different states have widely different budgets, but they all need sources of revenue to fund their coffers. The sources of revenue vary widely, but can include things like sales tax and vehicle licensing & registration fees.

A state like Nevada gains much of its revenue from gambling-related taxes, reducing the amount of revenue needed from other sources.

A state like California has huge legislated expenditures that are tough to reverse, a huge government machine that has to be fed, and has allowed expenses to run out of control.

BTW I see that the boys from Twickenham beat the homeland at the Millennium Stadium. I forgot it was on Friday, and had to settle for watching France beating Scotland in a fast game at Stade de France. The Italy v Ireland game is recorded.
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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2011, 12:44:33 PM »
Paul
 
A lot of full time RV'rs register there coaches in Montana. This is done by getting a mail forwarding service in Montana and using that for a permanent address.
 
Here is a link to a TAX Free registration service for RV's.
http://www.taxfreerv.com/
 
And here is a link to a Mail Forwarding company in Montana.
 
http://www.travelersmailexpress.net/
 
I don't full time myself but so many that do do it through Montana that it's worth looking into.
 
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« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2011, 04:03:43 PM »
LOL Paul, it can be tough for a visitor to understand. Unlike the UK with its centralized government, individual states have wide powers and responsibilities.....

A state like Nevada gains much of its revenue from gambling-related taxes, reducing the amount of revenue needed from other sources.

BTW I see that the boys from Twickenham beat the homeland at the Millennium Stadium. I forgot it was on Friday, and had to settle for watching France beating Scotland in a fast game at Stade de France. The Italy v Ireland game is recorded.
Wow.......what a headache!! And here I am thinking I can jump on a jet, buy a motorhome off someone, then ride off into the sunset! I can see this is going to be FUN with a capital F!!

Ermmm......'boys from Twickenham'.......if thats anything to do with football i'm afraid you've lost me. I'm one of (quite a few) brits that doesn't follow football!  :-[ ;D

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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2011, 04:05:51 PM »
Thanks for that Dick.

All info is useful......i'm currently on a serious learning curve!  ;D

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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2011, 05:51:34 PM »
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Wow.......what a headache!!


Not as bad as it sounds Paul. Click the Library button above and, under Visitors to the USA, you'll find an article or two written by folks who've done this before.

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if thats anything to do with football i'm afraid you've lost me

The other kind of football, but you obviously don't follow rugby  :(
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« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2011, 01:54:59 PM »
Hi,
I have just been through most of the things you want to do in the US,so if you still looking for answers let me know,
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2011, 12:28:33 PM »
Hi Paul

We are from the UK and about to embark on a 5 month RV trip to the USA.

First of all I believe the visa waiver is only for 3 months, we had to go to the US embassy in London pay about 100 each and fill in paperwork etc etc, and we now have a US visa for 10 years.

We were going to buy an RV like you but with the hassle of setting up an LLC to buy it, register it, the stress of it breaking down and selling it we now decided to rent, however if you are going for 3 years then this is not an option. If you give me your email address then I will send you email correspondance I have had with a company in Montana who were going to set up a LLC for me and everything you need to know is in there.

Any questions please ask

 

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