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Re: Buying a RV for 6mths
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2011, 05:44:46 PM »
Hey Lou,

What are the rules about buying an RV in Arizona, then driving it out of state to register it? Or does this depend on the state you are going to?

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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2011, 06:28:42 PM »
When you take an out of state delivery, the seller will drive the RV to the other state and that's where the actual purchase is made.  You are then responsible for for registering it in your intended state.  If it's a new RV, you will receive a Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin, or if used, a title, that you'll need for registration.  You don't drive the vehicle in AZ at the time of purchase or it's considered an AZ purchase.
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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2011, 08:13:06 PM »
You need to consider your future plans.  If you're going to forever stay in a state that doesn't impose their own tax on the purchase, it might be beneficial to avoid paying sales tax to the selling state.  But if you're going to a state that imposes their own tax, most of them will credit any sales tax already paid to another state so there's no advantage to avoiding the initial hit.

In my case, I was living and working in CA.  So I just paid the AZ sales tax, and CA credited me that amount against their sales tax when I registered it there.

A couple of years later, I moved to WA state and changed the registration to there.  WA collects an excise tax on used RVs coming in from other states.  But they likewise gave me full credit for the sales tax I had already paid to AZ.

So it was a wash either way.  If I had gone through the motions and avoided paying the sales tax on the initial purchase, I still would have paid an equivalent amount further down the line to one of the other states.

AZ will issue a short term trip permit after you pay their sales tax, if you're taking the motorhome to another state.   Saves having to pay AZ a full year's registration fee if you're going to register it somewhere else.
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« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2011, 10:20:10 PM »
Might be that Arizona charges more than the destination state, though?
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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2011, 03:49:08 PM »
We don't plan to stay in any particular state for very long, we will be traveling from state to state and even up to  canada. We just need to register and get plates in "a state", but I'm told most states need a permanent address to register, whilst others have even stricter rules such as needing a state drivers license..

I have a forwarding address setup in texas but if I can avoid having to travel there that would be good as we're landing in LA.

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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2011, 04:55:08 PM »
Dear Tom and helpful others,

Thank you once again for all your useful posts and website links. You do not have to apologise at all, I think you are just trying to warn us and we are grateful for that!!
Sorry we haven't replied or been on the forum for a few weeks. We have been busy sorting things out regarding our house and have said goodbye to some friends and family already.

We have booked our flights and will fly to Seattle on the 12th April. We had to make a decision and although we are not sure this is the best state to buy and register we think we are able to register a RV there as non-residents. We have been keeping an eye on available class C RV's there (most of them seem to have gone over the last few days/week!).

We have decided more or less on our route which will take us to the desert asap. From Seattle we want to go down the west-coast and then into the desert to Yosemite and other national parks, then via a part of route 66 back to the west coast, then up to San Francisco and via part of the 'loneliest road' up to Yellow stone and then towards Chicago. We are hoping to go into Canada from there and then via Niagara Falls to the Appalachian mountains.

Our biggest worry, of course, is still spending our savings on a good RV, as we have no knowledge regarding engines, RV's etc. We have printed useful information from the forum and stuck this in a book to take with us. We can 'study' this info before we go 'hunting' to try and get a good deal and a good RV.... Are there any forum members who live in the Seattle area and would know where we could get a reliable opinion on a RV that we might consider buying? Or any mechanics we could contact?

Also, could anyone make any recommendations regarding insurance companies?
Once again, thank you so much for your help already and trying so hard to prevent us from making the wrong decisions!

Best wishes, Annie and Paul
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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2011, 05:31:33 PM »
Phew! Thanks Annie and Paul, I was worried that we (I) might have chased you away.

Exciting times, although I understand what you've been going through getting ready to leave and saying your goodbyes.

Earlier today, I asked fellow Brit Mick to look in on this discussion. Mick and his wife Pat blazed the trail with the immigration form I-539 that supposedly allows you to extend your stay in the US without having to leave and re-enter the country. Hopefully, Mick will share his experience.

Be sure to check into The RV Forum regularly during your trip so that we can keep up to date with your progress and your travels. Also, you'll likely find that, if you plan to be close to any forum members, they'll likely offer to meet up with you and give you a warm welcome.
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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2011, 08:37:38 PM »
Hi Paul and Annie, Phew what a long thread so far, rather than try and work out your plans let me tell you briefly what we did, the problem of course matters may have changed as we found  from those who advised us back in 2007.

Okay, back in Oct 2007 we also arrived in Florida with our B2, I had already booked a villa for 28 days and we had a hire car as part of our fly/drive only deal. I also had set up using a new account with HSBC in the UK an account also in Florida, this takes a month or two.

We stayed in North America exactly from Oct 2007 to Aug 2009 in this way.

USA from Oct 07 to Apr 08.    1st US visa

Canada Apr 08 to Aug 08

On 6th Aug 08 we flew back to the UK for 6 weeks for the birth of our first grand daughter.

16th Sept 08 returned to Canada.

8th Oct 08 crossed back into the USA.    2nd visa

April 09 was when our 2nd visa expired however we completed and posted our I-539 form along with $300 for a 6 month visa extension, this is completed and sent a month or two before the expiry of your current visa.

On the 27th April received letter from US Customs requesting further details for our application.

About one or two months before we flew home we received our extension to our visa that would have taken us up to October 2009.

Before our arrival in the USA I arranged.

Our address with a company in Kissimmee but you are using a relative I believe?

This company for our Montana LLC http://www.heggenlawoffice.com/  ask for Ron

This is the broker with whom we insured BOTH our RV & toad.  http://www.gardencityins.com/   ask for Keith the actual insurance company is Progressive.


Sorry if this is a bit 'All over the place' but I'm trying to type this at 02.15 in the morning.

My UK driving licence was okay for the insurance company.

We bought our 2005 RV as a private sale from a fellow Brit who owns a villa in Florida, but we bought the Jeep brand new from a Jeep main dealer in Orlando, if you do obtain a Montana LLC then your RV and car if you buy one will BOTH be registered as Montana vehicles and bear Montana number plates or 'tags' as our American cousins call them, these would be sent to you from Heggan Law if you use them.

If you intend to NOT pay import duty and tax when you ship back to the UK you must have owned the vehicle/s for 6 months and been out of the UK or EU for 12 months.

Paul this could take forever could you PM me with your land line phone number or better still do you use Skype? We are currently in Spain. A quick phone call will be far better than trying to second guess exactly what you need, okay?

If you are on Skype my user name is voyager1836

Hope to here from you soon.

Mick :)
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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2011, 01:07:08 AM »
Thanks for jumping in Mick. I especially appreciated reading about the I-539 as I've had no personal experience with that process, although I was aware of it.

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On the 27th April received letter from US Customs requesting further details for our application.

I'm curious what additional details they needed &/or what it took to satisfy them and grant the extension.
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« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2011, 02:20:23 AM »
Thanks for jumping in Mick. I especially appreciated reading about the I-539 as I've had no personal experience with that process, although I was aware of it.

I'm curious what additional details they needed &/or what it took to satisfy them and grant the extension.

Tom, I have asked 'Her in doors' ( you can explain that one if any one asks)  ;) if she recalls what 'extra' information was and neither of us can remember sorry, I do recall having to photo copy EVERY page even the blank ones of our passports and that was for four because during our stay we renewed our passports to the new biometric ones but our B2 visa's were in the old 'expired' ones and still are to this date.

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« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2011, 02:37:33 AM »
OK thanks Mick. If it comes to mind later, please let me know - for the next time this comes up. You folks blazed the trail on the I-539.

I never fail to be amazed at how many potential visitors think that, just because they have a B1 or B2 stamped in their passport, they can stay here for as long as they like. I'll occasionally run across someone who thinks they can do it under the visa waiver program which, of course, has a maximum stay of 3 months with no extension privileges.

Had an intense discussion with an immigration lawyer a few months ago. Since I was paying him by the hour, I was determined to maximize the info I received for my $$$. It's a story for around the campfire, but he brought me up to speed on some interesting stuff.

I'm off for my daily diet of The Archers.
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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2011, 02:50:23 AM »
Tom, What really surprised us was after paying a small fortune and jumping through ALL the hoops the American Immigration asked ie having been interviewed the paper work we received along with the visas stated that having been granted a visa does NOT guarantee entry into the USA  :o

Mind you we have the first six seasons of the TV programme 24 ( 42 DVD discs) and having started watching through them for the second time I can understand why.

Mick
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« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2011, 09:36:50 AM »
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.... the visas stated that having been granted a visa does NOT guarantee entry into the USA

Aye, as I always warn folks, the final decisions on whether you're allowed in, and for how long, are up to the agent at the port of entry. But the visa stamp is a prerequisite, and the 6 months maximum is a hard limit. No big surprises for me, since many of the rules were in place when I was traveling between the UK and the US in the 70's. That was long before the 'T' word was commonplace.
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« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2011, 05:01:14 PM »

2 weeks to go!!! Ive even started to make films about the trip!!! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXTtU54IxUw

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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2011, 05:33:53 PM »
LOL nice one.
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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2011, 01:52:41 AM »
2 weeks to go!!! Ive even started to make films about the trip!!! 

Paul and Annie,  Wow shall keep my front seats reserved for when its released, brill.

Now we started and still keep a blog, here is its location    http://www.getjealous.com/mick1836

Now using Get Jealous costs 0.00 for first 100 photos added to the blog for a year,then  there are upgrade stages to, Premium 500 photos 15,Silver 1000 photos 25, Gold Unlimited 30 I am currently on Silver, my expiry date is 1oth June 2011 and renewal will cost me 25, but an upgrade will only cost me a 5 between renewal dates. You will see that as well as being able to add photographs, you can add movies.

I presume you will leave a lot of relatives and friends in the UK, well the advantage with a blog and in particular Get Jealous if you visit my opening page you will see in the left column you will see " Subscribe to our News" and under those words an empty  white box with "Enter your email adress:"above it, now if you do use this for a blog enter ALL your relatives and friends email addresses in that box and send them in and EVERY TIME you add or change anything to your blog an email is sent out to those relatives and friends, this saves you continually phoning home and folk's back home can see on the map exactly where you are.

Enough blog plugging, we also used Skype a lot to contact the UK in fact we used it a lot also in the States and Canada as most sites had good wi-fi.  Talking of Skype and my last but one message I still haven't received a PM or Skype contact invite so that we could chat rather than do all this blooming typing  :(

Hope the above helps and I here from you soon?

PS Just a thought, check out the RVf forum member UK-RV strangely enough  his name was PAUL and his wife was ANN-Marie they bought toured and shipped before we did, in fact we used a lot of information that Paul obtained and boy when it came to research Paul is your man, if you view his previous postings set several hours aside to read them.  :)

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« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2011, 12:06:29 PM »
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..... his name was PAUL and his wife was ANN-Marie .... if you view his previous postings ...

Aye, Paul Chatwin (UK-RV) blazed the trail on a lot of stuff. One caveat - he also holds the record for the greatest number of oopsies, as in "wish I hadn't done that". We have a special award here for such occasions - known as the HFWPOH award (Hit Forehead With Palm Of Hand) - and Paul earned a few of them  ;D

Here's one of Paul's classic HFWPOH moments.
 
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« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2011, 10:04:53 AM »
Hi,
I am new to the forum as we are travelling to West Coast in June for 3 months on an esta visa(max 90 days), and plan on buying a used rv to tour in.

After reading numerous threads and posts, it has become apparent that I know next to nothing about the legal aspects of rv camping.

Like Comense' post, we will be buying in LA, then travelling through various states (arizona, nevada, idaho, washington oregon etc) and also hopefully in mexico and canada for a few days.
Do we need to have a permanent address to register the rv? Is insurance a legal requirement? and how would we get the rv smogged? taxed? etc.

Any solutions/responses are greatly appreciated.
Michael

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« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2011, 10:17:51 AM »
Hi Michael,

Just curious why you went the visa waiver (ESTA) route? It shouldn't affect what you plan to do, or the answers to your questions, but it does limit your options should you enjoy the trip so much that you'd like to stay longer.
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« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2011, 10:30:23 AM »
Due to job commitments, 3 months is the longest we can get away. and the esta was the cheapest visa for the 90 days.

It will be a budget trip and renting a newer rv would be much more expensive than buying(and selling again) an older rv (between 1985-1990) (cost around $5000) that will hopefully do the job.

We have seen a lot of RVs on Craigs list but some of them are not smogged ot taxed. Would you know of any other websites/dealers that sell around the LA area?


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« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2011, 11:02:12 AM »
Ah yes, ESTA does save a few quid (and time), and jobs do tend to get in the way of having fun.

Here's a list of RV dealers in Southern California. I can't speak for the accuracy of the list or the reputation of the dealers, but I see several well-known names that have dealerships in other places.

I'd think that, with the limited time, you might have some difficulty selling before you have to return home.
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« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2011, 11:07:20 AM »
Michael, What size RV would you be requiring or for how many persons?

Here is one company who rent RV's in the USA & Canada, not knowing your exact dates, number of berths required start / finish locations it was impossible for me to work out a rental price for you, but be prepared to hang onto your hat and don't forget to add to whatever figure you get add cost of fuel, camping fees, food, attraction admission fees.

http://www.cruiseamerica.com/

Your UK car driving licence will cover you to even the largest RV this company offers and no doubt insurance is included in the fee.

Hope this helps a little?

Mick
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« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2011, 06:35:47 AM »
Thanks for the speedy suggestions.

Mick, I had originally intended on renting for the 3 months (from mid june to mid sept) as it seems an easier option, but have realised its more feasible to buy and hopefully sell again.
The cruise america site was quoting $10 000 for the duration.
At least with an rv purchase, you may get some of the money back at the end.

I will take note of a few of those dealers you suggested Tom, thanks. And perhaps suggesting a buy back option to whoever we purchase from? what do you think?

We only need a 2 berth, and looking at rvs around 20" to 25".
Any advice on campsites in US?
Do you need to book in advance? Does it cost more for bigger RVs per night?


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« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2011, 12:17:22 PM »
Hello...

I have read the attached posts with interest as my husband and I arrive in LA in May for a 6-9 month trip around the National Parks of Western US and Alaska...if all goes well at the embassy - appointment booked...!!

We intend on buying a MH in the LA area (having seen a few on the internet that look pretty good), registering it at my brothers' address in LA, and possibly insuring it through www.sunriseworldwide.com - a company that specialises in insuring foreign nationals particularly those from the Services and diplomats (although we are neither!)...

We originally intended on bringing our MH over from the UK but the costs started to get very expensive so we decided to buy instead...

We understand that our B2 visa (if granted) will be for 6 months max and we plan to travel down into Central America when we have to leave the USA...or it may be that we apply for an extension depending on how our trip is going...

A couple of questions for any on the forum from the LA area -
We would like to get the MH we choose inspected by an independent mechanic - any recommendations?
I have read about selling a MH on commission...anyone have any comments on how good a system this is?  We thought at the end of the trip that we might put the MH on sale via a dealer on commission if we could not sell it straight away - that way we could leave to get back to the UK without having to flog the MH for a fraction of its value...will dealers do this for anyone?

Anyway - we are really looking forward to coming out...we have just spent a year driving around Europe and Morocco in our MH as part of our 2 year career break and are raring to get to the States...

Look forward to hearing from anyone with any advice..

Tara



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« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2011, 09:58:10 PM »
Hello all

Well who would have thought that time would have flew past so quick... and after a fantastic 7 mths driving around america our family road trip is now approaching the end and we are starting to look at the horrible prospect of having to part company with our RV and put it up for sale!!

It has been a fantastic experience and the Duck (RV) has done great.

If anyone is interested in a quality 25ft Class C RV with low miles then please feel free to contact us. We are currently in Lake Tahoe and heading north to Yellowstone before heading back to Seattle. We should be back around late September.

The RV details can be found on Craigslist:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/rvs/2615952148.html

There is also a lot more information on our website:
http://www.familyroadtrip.org/RoadTripUSA/The_Duck.html

Alternatively, feel free to email us directly at familyroadtrip@me.com

Thank you for everyone who has provided advice over the past year or so and helped in making our trip great.

Thanks Paul

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« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2011, 10:11:00 PM »
Glad to hear you had a good time Paul. Good luck with the sale of the RV. We have a Private for-sale area here on the forum, and you're welcome to post an ad there (free).
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