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JCZ

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2012, 07:38:17 AM »
Thanks for the help y'all! I'm in an rv park for maybe three days before I head out again.

Would I do anything different?  Nah

You go girl! ;)
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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2012, 11:18:29 AM »
I just checked overnightrvparking.com, a subscription site that has verified status of Walmart parking. Is this the Walmart # 2557 at 8400 Rosedale Hwy in Bakersfield (closest Walmart to Rosedale itself)?  If so, permission overnight parking was confirmed as recently as 11/12/2012.  But if it's the one 5075 Gosford Rd, then Walmart does NOT own the property and overnight stays are prohibited by the property owner/management.

Personally, I would not give much credibility to somebody's business card lying on the ground, but would have taken it to the Walmart Customer Service desk and asked them to confirm or deny.
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singlemom7

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2012, 12:28:41 PM »
It was 5075.  Prohibited by management does not a city code make.  Right?

Been wrong before.  Thanks for the updated info.  I will obviously run into issues again and will need you great people to keep those cards and letters coming!  Lol

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2012, 12:50:07 PM »
No two people tear paper the same.  We all do things differently, handle situations differently.  Hopefully we do the best we can and learn from our mistakes.  In this case, I'm skeptical there was any wrong so what will be, will be.

Now if you're a knucklehead like me......you may have to experience the lesson a few times before you learn from it. :P
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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2012, 04:54:20 PM »
We stop at a few Walmart parking lot's while traveling, have never thought more than an over night is appropriate... It's not a campground.  Pull in during evening, go shop, sleep, wake up, leave....  To spend anymore than that is strange, unless you have some weird view of entitlement to others property, it's not public, it's someones business.  Like others, just an opinion.
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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2012, 11:40:32 PM »
Regarding the earlier post about there being two different walmarts here.  I am staying just two lights from the other "permissive" walmart and um YOWZER!!  Some of you guys would be a gasp to see that place.  Might as well start an RV park there, they look like they have by design planned to house what currently is about 12 large RV's.  Jacks down, slides out and been going on all day.  I will admit I dont keep abreast of the Rallies an what not but maybe there is some sort of RV rally here in town. 

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2012, 10:22:01 AM »
I must be the only paranoid one in the crowd. to me the card was a warning to LOOK for danger, as in someone casing the RV to do wrong.
let me put it this way, lets say I am a bad guy looking to steal stuff from cars/rv's in a parking lot. what would I do but stick a flyer or business card on the windshield or door then go sit somewhere and see how long it takes until it gets removed, if card is still there on day too, then it is unattended and I should have no troubles getting in getting stuff and getting out.

I would have either "pulled up stakes" right away or taken the card into Walmart to make sure it was a true business card. not some sort of "timer" for the bad guys.

Just my thoughts anyway, I have no experience staying at a Walmart and don't really plan on doing so. I have slept for a couple of hours on an exit ramp behind a transport truck when just too tired to go any further. but that was over 20 years ago.
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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2012, 10:23:26 AM »
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It was 5075.  Prohibited by management does not a city code make.  Right?

Right. Though there may well be a city code that could apply to public parking areas as well. Often it is a matter of interpretation - or the property manager using compliance with the spirit of the city regs as a crutch.
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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2012, 12:48:21 PM »
No it's called anger management, I win because I refuse to let them upset me.  Lol
You did win right there.  :D
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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2012, 01:22:20 PM »
The manager could have just been doing his job and letting you know nicely so you might avoid issues with the local municipality.  Walmart might not care at all that you are there, but they know that the municipality might and they don't want their customers in trouble. 

I'd take the card in and ask for the person whose name is on the card and thank them for the heads up, or to just find out if it was not them.
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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2013, 09:10:44 AM »
...my take on this is different, she and her daughter were INSIDE the RV when the card was placed! (Remember, she stepped outside and saw it on the ground.) Obviously (to me) the person placing the card was not really all that invested in having them leave - but perhaps merely "doing their job". Otherwise she/he would have knocked. Sounds fairly benign.

The other side of the coin though as I see it is something that hasn't been discussed fully... and I'm not pointing fingers or trying to make anyone feel bad, but I feel that what Wally's policy actually is needs greater understanding by all. That said, I admit I've never read it, so this is MY understanding of Walmart's policy gleaned from a variety of sources and experiences.

Camping is not allowed. Overnight parking is.   ...and as mentioned above, it's a safety stop - take a break, get some sleep, perhaps do some shopping, and be on your way.
Overnight parking is not: arrive at 6pm, jacks down, slides out, generator on, make dinner, watch TV, go to bed, wake up and leave at 8am!
Overnight parking is not: arrive at 8am, unhook the toad, go visit friends all day at their home nearby!

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2013, 02:52:52 AM »
Michael Holden:
Sounds exactly what my understand is.....
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parmm

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2013, 11:50:38 PM »
When parking overnight at Walmart (or anywhere else) I always request to speak to a member of management in the store and ask if I can park over night.  If granted that permission, I get their name, plus I also ask if there is any  particular place they want me to park.  Each store seems to have a different place.  Some way out front and some on the side toward the rear of the store.

And here is a useful tool for Walmart parking:  http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/walmartrving/, the original Walmart RVing group that maintains the Walmart Parking List.
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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2013, 09:28:53 AM »
As a Landlord of property, I would not have approached the RV.  The legal responsibility is with "Walmart" and not with the RV.  Regardless of the Local ordinance or conditions set forth in the lease agreement it the responsibilty of the Walmart management to assure those legal issues are adhered too.  The property owner/management should and, if had any amount of professionalism, would address any violations with management as I addressed above.

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2013, 10:01:16 AM »
As a Landlord of property, I would not have approached the RV.  The legal responsibility is with "Walmart" and not with the RV.  Regardless of the Local ordinance or conditions set forth in the lease agreement it the responsibilty of the Walmart management to assure those legal issues are adhered too.  The property owner/management should and, if had any amount of professionalism, would address any violations with management as I addressed above.
This is exactly right. I am a professional (licensed) Property Manager in CA. I can tell you that I would NEVER even dream of approaching a customer of one of my lessees. The Property Manager's business is with the Lessee, not the Lessee's customer.

Having said that, if there is a local ordinance against something, placing a note on someone's vehicle may be construed as a common courtesy (I would consider it meddling). Doing it on your business card may be a different matter. If the receiver of the note took the business card/note into the business, the business could well have a grievance against the Management Co.

Since when does Walmart Lease property from an outside Management Co? My understanding is that Walmart Corp buys property (as part of their business plan) and Leases the land back to the individual stores. That may not be ALL stores but I just can't envision Walmart Leasing property from an outside source that they can't control.
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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2013, 09:22:39 AM »
So my daughter and I are sitting at Walmart in rose dale Cali where we were told we could overnight no problem.  We stepped out of rv to check something and a business card was laying on the ground.  Since I hate litter I picked it up and it was a business card from property manager stating on back "no overnight parking per city ordinance, thx bob". No knock or anything.  We are lucky to have found card.

I'm not sure of the confusion. The business card said you couldn't camp there not overnight. You yourself said your still there and hilariously not planning in leaving for a few hours even after being warned by the city ordinance
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parmm

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2013, 01:17:13 PM »
I'm not sure of the confusion. The business card said you couldn't camp there not overnight. You yourself said your still there and hilariously not planning in leaving for a few hours even after being warned by the city ordinance.
In all reality, the OP found the business card on the ground.  Nothing saying it was pointed at here.  Could have been on a tractor trailer and the driver threw it away, and the wind blew it over to here RV.  Commercial trucks is usually where these parking ordinances are pointed at anyway.  If I were to leave a business card on anyones vehicle , I'd be sure to stick it under the windshield wiper or slide it into the door opening above the handle where it could be seen.  But I've seen lots of people drive away from a parking lot with something stuck under a wiper, and who knows where it blows off at.
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Rancher Will

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2013, 04:19:14 PM »
From titme to time over the years, as recently as three months ago in Westminster, Colorado in the 136th Ave store, we have stayed overnight in a Walmart Parking lot. We always contact the Customer Service desk in the Walmart Store to get permission.

In those instances where we are told that there is a city ordinance (actually few places) we have been told that the ordinance does not prohibit parking for shopping. I have been told numerous times by the Walmart person to merely state that we have parked to shop in the store, if contacted by police or told that there is no overnight parking. Apparently the city ordinances cannot specify how long anyone can park to go shopping, even overnight. In fact, I have been told that if there is a problem to refer the police, or city enforcer to the store manager.

We do shop in the store every time we park in a Walmart Parking Lot and have never been told to leave.

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Re: Strange way to get kicked out of Walmart parking lot
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2013, 04:23:05 PM »
I forgot to mention above that there have a few Walmart Stores that do not have room for RV or semi truck parking. Those are usually obvious anytime we pull into the lot. In those cases we have been politely told that we should not park there since there is not enough room. We can plainly see the truth of this when it happened.

In those few cases we have even been referred to other nearby parking that is available.

 

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