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BadjerJim

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Guitars and RVs ?
« on: May 08, 2011, 12:11:45 PM »
Hello!
The wife and I got our first 5th-wheel RV last October, and we're really loving it. We've learned that an older "bargain" RV may not be such a bargain after all - we've put more money into this rig than we ever intended.

There's a lot of good info in this forum.  Thank you!

At any rate, we'd like to take a guitar along on our trips.  Are there any special considerations? It should be an acoustic guitar that does not need an amp.

The recent MotorHome magazine had an article about a guitar called a Voyage-Air, and it folds in half for compact carry.

Anybody have one of these Voyage-Air guitars, or any experience with a guitar that's kept in the RV?

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Re: Guitars and RVs ?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 12:24:53 PM »
We have a few guitarists here, and hopefully they'll jump into the discussion.
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BadjerJim

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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 12:27:07 PM »
We have a few guitarists here, and hopefully they'll jump into the discussion.

SuperCool !  Thanks!

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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 12:49:38 PM »
Hi BadjerJim and welcome to the Forum,

I carry seven guitars on board (1 electric bass, 3 electric, 2 acoustics, and a steel resonator), not to mention a few pedals, a 7-guitar stand, and a Marshall amplifier and 412 cabinet.  The hard part is making room for the instruments, but since I'm not married I usually have too much of a problem in that regard.

The major problem is controlling extremes of heat and humidty so as not to damage the instruments but with a little care you should be able to work that out.

It looks like the Voyage Air won't have too much of a problem with heat and humidity since it folds.  However, I've never played that particular guitar and am skeptical of a "folding" guitar and would never purchase one. 

You seem intent on saving space, have you thought about the Martin Backpacker?  http://www.martinguitar.com/guitars/choosing/guitars.php?p=m&m=Steel%20String%20Backpacker%20Guitar
« Last Edit: May 08, 2011, 02:16:20 PM by Luca1369 »
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2011, 02:01:28 PM »
I carry three guitars and an amplifier. One acoustic, one semi hollow and one electric. My motorhome didn't have an inverter so I installed a 400 watt ($40) to run the amp and my TV. Heat and humidity can be a problem. So what I do is to only carry cheap guitars. None of mine cost over $400 so if I ruin one I can replace it cheaply. But in my 9 years on the road I have rarely had to even retune my guitars.

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2011, 02:35:06 PM »
Keep it in the case, if humidity or lack therof is a problem, there are ways to control it.  If you have a tall closet, stanf it against a dise, use a bungee and some clips to hold it in place.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2011, 02:46:13 PM »
BadjerJim,

    Here's a link to a short primer on heat and humidty and their effects on a guitar.

http://www.musiciansworkshop.com/humidity.html
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2011, 06:08:10 AM »
When on the road, we tend to keep the coach somewhat comfortable for us, even when we are off sightseeing, or whatever. So far my 12 string hasn't needed more than minor retuning, and often none at all. I do keep it in its hard case, when not in use. I'm usually more concerned with keeping it from banging around than with the "climate."
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2011, 07:38:21 AM »
I've had no problems carrying guitars around over the years, there's usually one with me at all times ;D.  I generally take my Martin DM with me and just leave it in the hard case when I'm not using it.  The guitar has never seemed to mind the humidity, they were made to play and not necessarily in a climate controlled environment.  I've taken several electrics with me (Fender's, Epi's) and sometimes carry a small Fender Bronco amp to jam on.  They really don't take up much space.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2011, 10:15:04 PM »
Well, I decided to pull the trigger. Bought a Voyage-Air folding guitar. I'm not a pro guitar player, but the wife and I are breaking out the 5th wheel (now that it's mostly stopped raining). I'd rate myself 'advanced amateur' - I've been playing all my life, and play at church every Sunday.
 
At any rate, I bought the Voyage-Air entry-level model for $399 including back-pack case. Model VAOM-02. First was the case: it's a really well made backpack with zippered pockets for stuff. Along with the guitar, there's enough room in there for a picnic lunch and drinks and other stuff.

The backpack case is perfect. I mean, seriously, who wants to take a big guitar case, and haul it down to a campfire a few hundred yards away? Previous trips, when driving, I took a guitar and stood the case in the shower of the 5th wheel. Not a good idea, let me tell you. I should have put it on top of the Queen bunk at the front. But that was piled high with other 'camping essentials.'
 
The sound of this guitar is amazing. A folding guitar is something that just shouldn't work - but this one does. When you fold it open, it's the same size as a regular guitar, and you would never know it from a regular guitar by looking at it. The hinge locks secure, it's not wobbly at all. It's easy to play. And it's light too - about 9 lbs for the guitar and the case.
 
The sound does not compare to my Martin guitar - noway. But at the same time, I'd never take my Martin out camping. And the Martin is a way more than a $<500 guitar. I actually find myself playing this new Voyage-Air a lot.
 
A few days after I got it, the company put on a sale price for their appearance on the Shark Tank tv show. That figures. But I called the company and they credited me back $50 on my credit card to match the sale price. That's pretty cool.
 
Overall, this guitar is perfect for an RV. When folded and in its backpack case, it fits nearly anywhere. We keep it under the sofa in our 5th wheel - that way, it's easy to get to from the inside or outside. And it's just there, ready to play.
 
Many thanks to this forum. I've learned a lot. And jeez, have we spent the bucks getting the 5th wheel ready for the upcoming camping season.

I'm just passing stuff along. Never thought there would be an easy way to take a guitar out camping, that actually played and sounded decent. One with a backpack case so you can just tote it around to the lakeshore or whatever without a big and heavy case. Now there is. Thanks to all who replied with ideas. I like this guitar!

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Re: Guitars and RVs ?
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2011, 10:47:52 AM »
I carry a Takamine and have never had a problem.  Gibson has a life time warranty........

The Martin Back Pack is a good choice in that it takes up little storage space.  Problem is: 1) they sound funny and 2) the feel funny.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2011, 12:51:24 PM »
The Martin Back Pack is a good choice in that it takes up little storage space.  Problem is: 1) they sound funny and 2) the feel funny.

What, and a folding guitar doesn't seem funny?  What's next, a folding upright bass?  A folding tuba?  A folding baby grand?   ::)

I have to admit, a folding guitar does help with the storage problem.  I wonder though, do the strings mar the surface finish of the body when the neck is folded?  I suppose tuning will be a major issue whenever it is unfolded.  How tight is the joint where the fold/hinge is located and is it secure enough that string tension won't change the position of the neck when unfolded?  I would like to see one of these and feel how they play someday.
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BadjerJim

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2011, 02:10:00 PM »
Luca1369 - let's get together sometime. It stores and plays great.

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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2011, 04:44:49 PM »
Luca1369 - let's get together sometime. It stores and plays great.

What happens to the strings when you fold it and store it in its bag?
Steve
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2011, 07:15:38 PM »
What happens to the strings when you fold it and store it in its bag?

They coil up in the sound hole.

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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2011, 07:52:10 PM »
Do they chafe the finish of the guitar around the sound hole when they go in and out?
Steve
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2011, 09:03:59 AM »
I am a retired keyboard player. I carry my keyboard with me all the time. I also carry a mandolin with me. I found several dehumidifying bags and I place one in each case. I have never had a problem with moisture. Check with computer stores they usually have them packed in computer boxes and usually throw them out. Something else, there are many parks that have musician staying with them. It's always fun to get a Jam Session together......
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2011, 01:08:35 PM »
Regarding those little bags they put in computer boxes, remember.  Do not eat!  I don't know if anyone ever did that, but there must be some reason they put DO NOT EAT on the little bag.  "Hey Bob, watch me eat this bag of stuff....."

I am a retired keyboard player. I carry my keyboard with me all the time. I also carry a mandolin with me. I found several dehumidifying bags and I place one in each case. I have never had a problem with moisture. Check with computer stores they usually have them packed in computer boxes and usually throw them out. Something else, there are many parks that have musician staying with them. It's always fun to get a Jam Session together......
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2011, 01:12:28 PM »
Okay, this is getting funny.  Sheesh, how did we go from Guitars to 'don't eat dehumidifying bags?'

You guys crack me up.   :)

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2011, 07:32:52 PM »
Regarding those little bags they put in computer boxes, remember.  Do not eat!  I don't know if anyone ever did that, but there must be some reason they put DO NOT EAT on the little bag.  "Hey Bob, watch me eat this bag of stuff....."

YUCK....No don't eat the bag......
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2011, 03:57:43 AM »
I have not ever carried any of my guitars yet but I have a full length bay that I have plans to build a pull out for my Moffet electric Baby Grand If I ever get to go full time. I hardly play the guitar anymore but still have 2 hand made guitars in the bedroom. I gave 13 guitars to me grand-kids about a year ago. Of the 13. 7 were hand made.  The 2 I still have , one is a true Hollow body Strat and the other is not completed yet but it is a PRS

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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2011, 08:10:30 AM »
The backpack case is perfect. I mean, seriously, who wants to take a big guitar case, and haul it down to a campfire a few hundred yards away?
I do!

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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2011, 09:22:15 AM »
I don't think I've ever seen a hollow-body Strat.  A Stratocoustic?

I have not ever carried any of my guitars yet but I have a full length bay that I have plans to build a pull out for my Moffet electric Baby Grand If I ever get to go full time. I hardly play the guitar anymore but still have 2 hand made guitars in the bedroom. I gave 13 guitars to me grand-kids about a year ago. Of the 13. 7 were hand made.  The 2 I still have , one is a true Hollow body Strat and the other is not completed yet but it is a PRS
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2011, 09:25:10 AM »
I don't think I've ever seen a hollow-body Strat.  A Stratocoustic?

I agree.  Pictures please!

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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2011, 06:53:20 PM »
Wroth makes a hollow body but they run a rougther about 10 times and leave about the wood I built this one and hollow about 90 percent of the body out and cut the F hole in it. The guy that wanted one wanted the warm, mellow 70's sound. I made this one out of popular with a maple neck just to see if it could be done. The one I made for him was made with Birdseye maple.
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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2011, 06:59:06 PM »
Guess I need to read up on posting pictures. Also on the PRS you will see a ooophs next to one of the holes. I have to repair that and still have to make the fret board

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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2011, 09:05:54 AM »
A bit of miscommunication maybe?  You said "one is a true Hollow body Strat", but that is not a Fender Strat, that's a copy.  Hollow body strat copy would have told me a lot ;)
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2011, 09:37:47 AM »
Yes Fender made hollow body strats for a while in the 70s. They are rare because it kills the strat sound so they went over like a lead balloon.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Pawn-Shop-72-HH-Semi-Hollow-Stratocaster-BODY-/190537082148?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2c5ce52524#ht_912wt_905

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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2011, 10:36:18 AM »
I'm fairly involved in the vintage guitar market and don't ever remember a hollow-body Strat.  The one you are referring too is a brand new model from the Pawn Shop Series.  They are not copies of anything, just Fender's interpretation of what "might have been" if somebody modded out a Strat.  From Fender's website:

The new Pawn Shop Series guitars draw inspiration from the eccentric and sometimes wildly innovative Fender creations of the mid-'60s and mid-70s era that sometimes found their way to the outside world and into the more esoteric pages of Fender history.

In fact, one of their new models is an exact copy of a Squier guitar (Squier 51) that became wildly popular with modders because they were so well built and dirt cheap.  I have two of those.  I paid $140 for one and got the other for a penny.  Now, they're selling it in the Pawn Shop series and asking $800.
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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2011, 10:50:23 AM »
I read a book on the history of Fender a few months ago and distinctly remember the hollow body strat. I don't remember the details but you are probably correct that it never made it into production. It probably sounded nothing like a strat.

 

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