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BadjerJim

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Re: Guitars and RVs ?
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2011, 10:57:17 AM »
Yes Fender made hollow body strats for a while in the 70s. They are rare because it kills the strat sound so they went over like a lead balloon.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Pawn-Shop-72-HH-Semi-Hollow-Stratocaster-BODY-/190537082148?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2c5ce52524#ht_912wt_905

That is ONE WEIRD STRAT!  Body shape like a strat, hollow F-hole chamber, but the pickup and control routings are pure Telecaster.  What an odd thing.

mike eddleman

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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2011, 07:07:49 PM »
What I said Topdownman was I have a hand made true hollow body  Strat. Witch I have. It is hand made. If it was from Fender it would not be a hand made Strat. I say True Hollow body because the body's you can buy are not true hollow body's. They have had some of the wood remover to make them lighter. This one and the other Strat I made have 90% of the wood removed. You can play these without plugging them into a amp. They are not as loud as a flat top. The sound is a real warm sound kind of like the mood music of the 70's. They are made from Finder Strat plans that came from Finder. including the neck.

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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2011, 01:14:20 PM »
I buy cheap full sized guitars and fiddles and figure that heat and the road will inevitably take their toll at some point.

The guitars (I often travel with other musicians) tend to end up in the shower at night to save space, and are on the beds at other times.

In response to the question upthread, yes, there are folding upright basses.  I know of at least one gigging band that uses one.  They require an amp.

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« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2011, 02:20:07 AM »
Thanks for the very interesting info on Guitars and RV's.
Being an alien (as the border people say), we have to leave our trailer to the elements in the summer and winter (for some reason we prefer the Spring and Fall for our travel in the States). When we say that we leave our instruments in the trailer we get sharp intakes of breath, like a plumber about to give a quote, and advice that the glue used on guitars will break down above 120 degrees.
However we have had no problems so far. We place each instrument in its case, in a vacuum bag (no vacuum, just most of the air removed). Each time I have the internal debate about detuning, and have come to the conclusion that it sits at home for months without any problem, so the first couple of times I backed them off, but now I have left them fully tuned. So far we have had no problems (summer humidity in Orlando and arctic cold in Dallas).
The idea of the folding guitar gives the same feeling as scraping nails on a blackboard, but the you tube video seems to show it working.
As for portable instruments I rather like the idea of an inflatable double bass.
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« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2011, 06:54:52 AM »
So far we have had no problems (summer humidity in Orlando and arctic cold in Dallas).

I remember once, when I was in my early twenties, I pawned a six-string acoustic for a month or so during the dead of winter.  When I went back to get it and opened the case, it was broken, its seams split in many places.  The pawnbroker admitted to not leaving any heat on at night in his shop (Atlanta). 

On the other hand, I recall playing in a band in Guatemala, in a marina on the edge of a river with jungle all around.  It was summer, hurricane season, and the Rio Dulce was a great spot for boaters to hangout and pass the time while waiting for hurricane season to end.  Anyway, I was playing in a band in the marina's restaurant in the high jungle humidty.  I've never had so many problems with tuning, constantly, after every song and sometimes during a song.                       
Steve
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Re: Guitars and RVs ?
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2011, 08:38:49 AM »
Inflatable bass!  Love it.  Oh, and Arctic cold of Dallas!  Good stuff. 

Summer of 2009 left fiddle, guitar and mando in the house in FL with mostly 95 deg temps, then when the thermostat failed in the AC on mode, another month at ??? degrees?  They were all fine upon return.

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« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2011, 11:26:10 AM »
Well Luca 1369, we have moved on since Guatemala, we have steel strings now rather than cat gut, and if you played in the marina, as stated, then I am sure that the dampness would have got to your guitar whatever the strings.
So I can buy my Martin now then and it will be safe, I will tell my wife the good news. Just as I was going to buy some of those tire pressure gizmos, that I have been reading about on another thread.
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Luca1369

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« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2011, 02:02:50 PM »
Well Luca 1369, we have moved on since Guatemala, we have steel strings now rather than cat gut, and if you played in the marina, as stated, then I am sure that the dampness would have got to your guitar whatever the strings.

We played in the marina's restaurant, an open air venue, no walls, just a railing.  The restaurant sat sat out over the water (in fact my avatar is a photo where I'm sitting along the railing during a gig).  My guitar had steel strings and the humidity would have affected a guitar regardless of the string composition (as long as the guitar was made of wood).  I met someone down there who had one of those new carbon-fiber acoustic guitars and humidity did not seem to affect it in the least, even the fretboard was a carbon-fiber laminate! 
Steve
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fastrak100

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« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2011, 02:57:52 PM »
Well that looks and sounds like a dream location.
Good on you.
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mike eddleman

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« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2011, 07:05:25 PM »
You could get something like Gene simons Bass it's made of aluminum

Luca1369

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« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2011, 07:31:32 PM »
You could get something like Gene simons Bass it's made of aluminum

I don't know...there's something about an electric guitar made of metal (even though you still get shocked through the stings/bridge).
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mike eddleman

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« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2011, 04:15:30 AM »
Every electric guitar is set up to kill you. The way they are wired, you are the ground. The first one I ever made I thought I had a bad wiring Diagram. I talked to the owner of the local music store and he said it was bad but it was the only way they would play. I have tried many times to find another way of doing it, but it just will not work any other way

mike eddleman

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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2011, 04:18:12 AM »
May be that's why Gene was always sticking his tongue out he was getting shocked

fastrak100

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« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2011, 06:06:41 AM »
Well I have learned something.
I had a good laugh at the concept of electrocution by guitar.
However have researched a little and it seems it is possible.
Found this article on Guitar Nuts:
http://www.guitarnuts.com/technical/electrical/safety/index.php
Don't know when it is dated from though.
Many thanks, I will stick to the acoustic.
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Luca1369

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« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2011, 08:17:39 AM »
I had a good laugh at the concept of electrocution by guitar.

I don't recall ever hearing of a musician dying from electrocution but shock stories abound.  I've been shocked many times and learned the best way to avoid it is not come in contact with a microphone (since I don't sing this is easy). 

When the Grateful Dead played at Woodstock their crew warned the show's stagehands that there was a grounding problem.  Their warnings went ignored and Bob Weir suffered a burn on his lip when a blue flash knocked him backwards at one point.
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fastrak100

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« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2011, 08:35:29 AM »
At the risk of going a tiny bit off topic (forgiveness required) and bearing in mind that we all have to go sometime.
Here is a list of the way that rRocka and Rollers have died:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_in_rock_and_roll
Of which you will only find two attributed to playing, and one of those was in their recording studio, not necessarily playing a guitar.
Which probably goes to show that it is safer to go on vacation with your guitar than to either drive or fly!
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seilerbird

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« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2011, 09:43:05 AM »
Every electric guitar is set up to kill you. The way they are wired, you are the ground. The first one I ever made I thought I had a bad wiring Diagram. I talked to the owner of the local music store and he said it was bad but it was the only way they would play. I have tried many times to find another way of doing it, but it just will not work any other way

Not if you use a wireless transmitter. 3 volts generally won't kill you.

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« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2011, 09:47:10 AM »
I don't recall ever hearing of a musician dying from electrocution but shock stories abound. 

Ever hear of John Rostill of the Shadows? He died of electrocution by guitar. So did Keith Relf of the Yardbirds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_in_rock_and_roll

fastrak100

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« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2011, 10:46:02 AM »
Still off topic:
Seilerbird see my reply above re. John Rostill (who was he anyway? Hank Marvin, Bruce Welsh, Brian Bennett, Jet Harris, Tony Mehan yes, but John Rostill? I know he played with them, but not iconic to me).
So who else of the milllions of Giterists have been killed. Still think it is safer than RVing.
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« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2011, 02:44:09 PM »
Still off topic:
Seilerbird see my reply above re. John Rostill (who was he anyway? Hank Marvin, Bruce Welsh, Brian Bennett, Jet Harris, Tony Mehan yes, but John Rostill? I know he played with them, but not iconic to me).
So who else of the milllions of Giterists have been killed. Still think it is safer than RVing.
He played with the Shadows. You would have to be English. Cliff Richard and the Shadows were the biggest thing in English music until some group from Liverpool upstaged them.

I have been playing guitar most of my life and RVing most of my life. Neither one has ever hurt me.

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« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2011, 03:09:22 PM »
What about the drummers in Spinal Tap?
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« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2011, 05:29:43 PM »
What about the drummers in Spinal Tap?
I didn't know that they RV'ed! Did any of them die from RVing? I thought that they were mostly serial self combusters.
Certainly as drummers they were very unlikely to be electrocuted by a guitar.
Mind you when you look in the buses that groups have, the thought of being on the road for days on end for a tour .......................
This is getting very silly, I am off to bed (yes it's now 11.30 p.m. over here). But it has made a fun day.
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« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2011, 09:17:01 PM »
I've carried along my Taylor "Baby" on three two month trips without any problems.  Sounds very good for a 3/4 sized guitar.  I leave my other two Taylors at home.

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Angiodan

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« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2011, 01:38:58 PM »
Hi Guys and gals,
I always bring my mando (collings MF5) and guitar (either my martin or taylor depending on my mood) whenever I travel . I bought them to play and if you are just a little bit carefull you can enjoy them where ever you are. Have great day and...
Keep on pickin !
Dan

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« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2012, 08:11:56 AM »
I carry at least a guitar and banjo regularly, and sometimes a square neck resonator guitar. The travel guitars  and banjos are ok for practicing, but generally not for playing with others. The challenge i to find the space in the camper for them. In my old camper, I stored them in the over-cab bunk. Now I store them in the space between the rear bed and the back wall of my trailer. When not moving, sometimes I lay a folded towel in the base of the shower and stand them in the shower. The most important thing is to avoid high heat.
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BadjerJim

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« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2012, 09:43:24 AM »
A reply on this thread made me realize:
I've had the Voyage-Air folding guitar for almost a year.  It has never given me a bit of trouble and I play it a lot more than I thought I would. Just going to hang out with friends or for church strum-alongs, I can throw it in the car and it doesn't take up the whole trunk!  And it never fails to start conversations wherever I take it and unfold it and then play it!

At $399 it does NOT compare to my Martin D-28, but the Martin is 7x the cost!

I think the Voyage-Air is a great guitar and a unique idea. It plays and sounds great and I take it places I wouldn't take my other guitars.

Their website is here: www.voyageairguitar.com

I'm one happy guitar-camper!

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« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2012, 07:01:14 PM »
I just saw the Voyage-Air guitars for sale at a festival last weekend.  The problem was that the dealer didn't have one set up to play, so no one would consider buying one without hearing it.  Stupid dealer; at a festival full of RV's, and he didn't use his head.
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BadjerJim

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« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2012, 07:14:48 PM »
I just saw the Voyage-Air guitars for sale at a festival last weekend.  The problem was that the dealer didn't have one set up to play, so no one would consider buying one without hearing it.  Stupid dealer; at a festival full of RV's, and he didn't use his head.

You're kidding!  What festival was this, and where?  Those guitars are hard to find in stock anywhere these days!

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« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2012, 07:41:36 PM »
Gettysburg Bluegrass Festival.  I believe Picker's Supply from Fredericksburg, VA, was the vendor, but don't hold me to that.
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« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2013, 06:54:53 PM »

i never leave home without it. 1-acoustic/electric 1-tele.
you can run into some problems though. even with other musicians. bluegrassers wont play if you plug into an amp. rockers dont like country, country dont like rockers.
one place we were playing under the awning at 7pm and about 40 people were sitting in their lawn chaires listening and someone a couple rv's down said they were watching a movie and we were disturbing them. security came down telling us we had to shut it down. we didn't object, but the 40 people listening came close to running the security out of the park.
this being said, find the right place to play and obey the rules.
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