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deber

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2005, 07:21:19 AM »
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Like you we plan to not eat out much (see our picnic table posts  Cheesy ) and do a lot of boondocking (main reason for a motorhome rather than a fifth wheel) and like you work at various short term low level jobs and some workkamping.  I am really happy to get away from a professional career where the job owns me and I am enjoying lower paying but interesting odd jobs which I can feel free to walk away from at any time.

Hi Smokey,
We are working to get out of the suffocating office routine and right now plan to get a 30' 5th wheel.  At that size, I'm not sure if boondocking is a realistic option.  Is it?  Why does a motorhome lend itself to boondocking better than a fifth wheel?
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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2005, 09:41:12 PM »
Deb:

I am sure others more experienced than me will jump in.  I can tell you what I learned from my "intensive" 8 months of experience, but have almost no boondocking experience other than in my 30 foot trailer, which was entirely unsatisfactory without a genset.

My feeling is that the motorhome is more suited to integrate the various electric and fuel technologies than a fifth wheel.  I do know a lot of people who boondock in 5th wheels and do so successfully.  I bet they added gensets and inverters and have pretty large 5th wheels to hold everything.  The motorhome already has much of what is needed to begin with.

Mine will have solar panels to keep the batteries charged, a 2kw inverter, an 8kw Onan genset, and a lot of sophisticated wiring and circuitry direct from the factory.  When I researched fifth wheels I found that most of this stuff were "add ons" and a lot of dealers were vague about how to do it properly.  No dealers seem vague at all when they talk about boondocking motorhomes.
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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2005, 10:03:15 PM »
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... plan to get a 30' 5th wheel.  At that size, I'm not sure if boondocking is a realistic option.  Is it?  Why does a motorhome lend itself to boondocking better than a fifth wheel?
deb

Moterhomes usually come with the stuff (generator, inverter, etc.) you need to boondock comfortably.  You have to add them to most 5th wheels.  We have a 5th wheel and do a lot of boondocking.  BUT, my husband installed the inverter and other items.  We have a portable generator, rather than a built-in one.  You also need good sized fresh water and holding tanks, which many 5ers don't have.  I don't think the length of the rig matters much.

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deber

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2005, 08:23:04 AM »
Thanks for the replies, Smoky and Jeannine

We may do some re-thinking on this as we definitely want to boondock...with solar.
We considered the 5th wheel more economical in the long run because we would only have one motor to maintain.  With a motor home, we will need to tow. 

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2005, 01:22:04 PM »
I think a lot depends on HOW you want to deal with life on the road.  Don't forget that when you get to a place, you unhook and drive around a good sized truck.  We are going this way because we already have the truck, don't need to buy to pieces.  We have a motorcycle to get us around a bit too.  (not yet sure how this will be carried), with a MH you pull a little car, and have nice economical transport.  2 motors, sure, but that doesn't really enter into the equation that much. 

When I fulltime I will go MH.  For our current situation the 5er is best,  but will likely keep the slide-on camper.  We can go offroad with this combination, and as a trade-in, with the year it is, it is worth more to us to keep than to trade.

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2005, 01:23:32 PM »
I meant to answer some of the boondocking here too.  Other than way offroad, which most stuff won't do anyway, boondocking would be fine in a fiver. With solar easy, and with a 5er set for a genset, or a prortable, you can take care of the other issues. 

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2005, 12:46:30 PM »
Deb:

Originally we were going to fulltime in a 5th wheel.  It took many months to gradually swing over to the MH as our preference.  One thing I did not like was the idea of driving around in a truck.  We will be on a very tight budget and gas mileage will mean a lot to us.  We wanted something more economical to drive around in.

Another thing that swung us over was going to many many shows.  The more time we spent in MHs, the more we liked what we saw.

But either will work well.  I would say don;t set your sights right now on one or the other.  Just look at as many as you can and let the final decision come of its own accord.
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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2005, 09:07:36 PM »
I finally got around to re-uploading Ken Tarkin's detailed list of fulltiming expenses to our library. You can view it by clicking the Library button in the toolbar above, then clicking Fulltiming and selecting Fulltiming expenses. The data is a little old, and you'll have to extrapolate a little to today's $$, but it's quite detailed information.
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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2005, 09:15:15 PM »
Mike and I are inching our way toward full-timing so I've enjoyed reading this thread. On the 5th wheel vs motorhome discussion, my parents started full-timing in 1976 and still go out for 3-4 months at a time. They started out with a 20-foot trailer, moved up to a 35-foot 5th-wheel (all before slide outs) and now have a 25-foot 5th wheel with a slide out. They do a lot of boondocking and have never had a problem, Dad has a couple of solar panels he sets out when they're staying somewhere awhile and a small generator he hauls in the truck bed. HOWEVER, they are very, very low maintenance people when it comes to electric use....not big TV watchers, didn't have a satellite for years, and the computer stays home in Oregon when they go traveling. I guess what works for you depends a lot on what you do and how much "juice" you need !

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2005, 07:11:01 PM »
I read most of the posts about plans, costs, different units etc.  One thing I have yet to see is the upkeep on whatever unit you have.  Most of the big motorhomes require expert maintanence.  Even the newer pickups do not lend much for do it yourselfers other than oil change/filters.  RV appliances are not as long lasting as normal household ones.  Parts are expensive and again, generally require professional experience.  All of these things should be expected and included in your so called budget.  In my years I have seen full timers in everything from a van to a Prevost conversion.  All had to live within their means.  Don't be fooled by our government's estimation of inflation, it is considerably higher when you are on the road.  I can almost promise you that you will underestimate your expected costs.  That said, do it anyway but just be careful.  Life is too short to worry.  You will rarely re-coup your initial costs of any RV.  In 10 years you will probably have replaced that 250K MH and be farther in debt but you would have had fun.  Cannot put a price on that. 

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2006, 02:48:05 AM »
This is a great thread!  I anticipate in three years I will be hitting the road with no more house.  I have been debating between the MH and the 5th Wheel for some time.  We have a 37 foot Toy Hauler, the toys to go in it, and a truck to pull it.  The MH's are excellent and a four slide 40' MH could be lived in very comfortably.  It would also mean attaching a trailer to haul the Jeep and the bikes.  Maintaining a MH seems like it will be far more expensive than a 5er and when it comes time to replace it the expense will be significantly less.  The debate rages in my household and there appears to be no firm answers out there.  Beyond that I hope to follow motorcycle rallys around the nation and sell coffee to offset my travel expenses.  During the winter I will go to the local school and be a sub and pay for lot and life expenses from that.  Then again a nice space in Mexico near the beach just might do it!  Thanx for the great advice..
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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2006, 11:29:37 AM »
Phil:

You might want to chat with Shayne.  He is here at the QZ rally, tows a 24 foot trailer behind his 40 foot Pace Arrow MH, and also attends many motorcycle events.
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The magic of a campfire
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the mountains get higher
the hike was uphill both ways
and new friends become old friends

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2006, 09:21:39 PM »
If you want to see some actual numbers, we have four years of actual expenses from our fulltime RV living posted on our web site under the Full-time RV Living section. Also, under links there are two other fulltimers who have expenses posted. Just visit Roaming America and See Ya Down the Road from the "Favorite Links" page.

The URL is in my signature. Hope that is helpful.

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2006, 11:10:18 PM »
I don't plan to be a fulltimer any time soon but this was a great thread for future reference.

Thanks.
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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2006, 11:24:25 AM »
 
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in 2002 we rented a full time spot at Desert Gold RV Resort in Brenda, AZ
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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2006, 05:04:28 PM »
We stayed at Desert Gold in Brenda the winters of 98 through 2004.  In the beginning the park was nice and the seasonal rate we considered reasonable.  However, the park quality began going down hill when they started moving in what they referred to as park models but were actually run down  50/60/s model house trailers that were being kicked out of a Mesa park, and the rates began to raise each year.  More money for a more junky park.  We elected to move to Yuma the last two years.  Much better in Yuma as long as you get out in the foothills area.  I can not recommend Desert Gold any more.  Seems to get worse each year.
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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2006, 05:52:00 PM »
If I spent 51K a year I'd really be in a hole.  In 52 yrs of marriage I didn't average 51K a year  And I  don;t cheapen myself by doing without.  If I reallyu want it i find someway ti get it.  But I'm not foolish enough to throw it away either.  Heck I came from a poor family and as we gain stature and things progressed and we haven't recovered since.  If I can't do it on 20 K  I'll go back to misery in ILLinois and pack up and die.
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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2006, 07:14:25 PM »
Well, Yuma is a snow bird Mecca and the crime is on the rise. Costs are going up...but if you are spending more than $250 a month you are being ripped off. Any where the snow bird crowd goes, the prices are going up. Hard to avoid them, but there are still some "golden nuggets" out there. Where??? Aaaah, that is the secret:)

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Re: Help Calculate Actual Cost of Fulltiming??
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2006, 11:20:11 AM »
C'mon!  Share your secrets Woody!  We are among friends here.

We love our park, but prices are increasing 10% a year... 3300 to 3600 this current year.  We do not want to move, but this winter we are going to go look for some nuggets and see if there are good alternatives.  The thing we like most about our park are the facilities including their own golf course, and the activities among the members.  We also like that we have an annual rate wich permitted us to build our own 10x14 shed on our lot.  But if we had to we could go with a smaller setting. 

Please share!!  Or anyone else who has some winter park nuggets to suggest!
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The magic of a campfire
where the fish get bigger
the mountains get higher
the hike was uphill both ways
and new friends become old friends

2005 KSDP3910 Newmar Kountry Star
Toad - Taurus wagon w/ axle lock
On our way to the Poudre River in Colorado for the summer!

 

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