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Need RV Size Musical Instrument
« on: March 23, 2005, 10:03:31 AM »
Retirement gives an opportunity to accomplish things that were impossible during hectic working days.  Playing a musical instrument would be one accomplishment that might be worth working toward.  The problem with misic and RV's can be storage.

A piano are not easy to fit into the average rv.

Whatis an easy instrument to learn for someone with average ability, not much musical background but a desire to play?

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2005, 12:13:43 PM »
A friend of mine has an electronic keyboard that doesn't take up much room and can get just about any instrument sound that you could want including piano, gaitar, etc.  Don't remember the brand name but can find out.  If I remember it had a full piano keyboard.
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2005, 02:02:00 PM »
Whatis an easy instrument to learn for someone with average ability, not much musical background but a desire to play?

And what about an Irish Whistle? Sure n' their small in size, but large in melody! 'Tis said that when you whistle an Irish tune on an Irish Whistle, there'll be nobody sittin' around, ya know -- for they'll all be up a-dancin'!

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I have two tin whistles and you're right nobody is around when I play one. But they aren't up dancing either!! ;D ;D

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2005, 03:49:46 PM »
Whatis an easy instrument to learn for someone with average ability, not much musical background but a desire to play?

Most of the small electronic keyboards would fit your needs.  Plan on an hour a day practice for a year before your first concert.  If you have 2 or more hours a day to kill, you will find having the keyboard a lot more fun than if it just sits idle and takes up space.  My piano teacher used to say that just looking at the piano does not count, you have to make the keys work to really enjoy it.  :)

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2005, 12:16:40 PM »
I have a full-size Casio keyboard. It's light, stores fairly easily, and reproduces almost any instrument you can think of, and some you can't - ala PDQ Bach. Sam's, WalMart, and many other stores have a wide selection of them, but get one with a full size keyboard with full size keys; those with smaller keys are hard to play especially if you have large fingers. And get a decent stand as table tops and knees are not good substitutes. I can also recommend which instrument NOT to get - Bagpipes! (Sorry, Tom ;D)
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2005, 01:06:24 PM »
LOL Karl, it's Jim who plays the pipes.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2005, 01:33:07 PM »
I have discovered the harmonica as the ideal instrument for me.  I had always wanted to play a musical instrument so I tried a guitar, and though I enjoyed it found I did not have the coordination.  I later tried a keyboard and should have remembered my guitar experience.  The keyboard was far too complex for me to learn.

A harmonica is an instrument which is easy to carry, can be played relatively quietly and does not need a knowlege of music.  There are a number of websites that teach harmonica playing of familiar melodies.  At last I can make music...at least to my own ear.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2005, 10:15:04 AM »
Retirement gives an opportunity to accomplish things that were impossible during hectic working days.  Playing a musical instrument would be one accomplishment that might be worth working toward.  The problem with misic and RV's can be storage.

A piano are not easy to fit into the average rv.

Whatis an easy instrument to learn for someone with average ability, not much musical background but a desire to play?

Instruments on board certainly can be a problem. I have a couple of tin whistles I am trying to learn to play. They don't take up too much room and aren't as loud as my bagpipes. ;D ;D

A Dulcimer is another fairly small instrument that can be played easily in a coach and won't offend the neighbors. I may try that next winter if I have time. My problem is I really don't read music!

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2005, 11:32:55 AM »
Jim,

If you are interested in a dulcimer, I know of a couple at TGO that are not being used, that you may be able to borrow....
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2005, 11:40:37 AM »
Jim,

If you are interested in a dulcimer, I know of a couple at TGO that are not being used, that you may be able to borrow....

Steve,

We'll see what happens when we return next fall. :) Dave Reavis plays the dulcimer and he's getting good at it.

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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2005, 08:00:58 PM »
Jim,

[[ My problem is I really don't read music!]]

There are music books for various instruments for people who do not read music.  These books show the melody in so called   Tabs.

"Tabs" (or Tablature) defined- Tabs are a simplified way to notate instrumental solos, instrumental parts, melodies and songs, without having to formally read music"

In the case of a harmonica, for example, the tab will indicate hole 5, blow or draw  in a shorthand form which becomes second nature to read after very little practice.

This allows someone like me with virtually no ability to read music to play my favorite melodies on my harmonica.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2005, 08:09:24 PM »
But you still have to have some musical apptitude or talent of which I have none.  It would take some might good tabing to help me play. ;D ;D
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2005, 11:29:02 PM »
Jim,

[[ My problem is I really don't read music!]]

There are music books for various instruments for people who do not read music.  These books show the melody in so called   Tabs.

"Tabs" (or Tablature) defined- Tabs are a simplified way to notate instrumental solos, instrumental parts, melodies and songs, without having to formally read music"

In the case of a harmonica, for example, the tab will indicate hole 5, blow or draw  in a shorthand form which becomes second nature to read after very little practice.

This allows someone like me with virtually no ability to read music to play my favorite melodies on my harmonica.

Steve,

I know of no such thing for the pipes but I do have that for the tin whistle. Tabs work fine if you have a music book with such notation. Doesn't help if the music has only notes. Hard to learn new tunes that way. :)

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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2005, 08:11:39 AM »
I play and carry with us a mountain dulcimer. It is easy to play, even for someone like myself who has
NO musical talent. It takes up very little space, does not make a loud sound to offend the neighbors
and perhaps best of all there are dulcimer festivals all over the country. These are great excuses to go
somewhere and meet some great people and hear some great old time music.

The dulcimer can take you as far musically as you wish to go, or like myself you can just play for your own
personal enjoyment. There are excellent tab books and internet sites to obtain music. A few include:
dulcitunes.com, everythingdulcimer.com, and geocities.com/pickinwright. The best web sites for
festival information is gilamountaindulcimers.com and dulcimerplayer news, I think their web site is
dpn.com.

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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2005, 11:18:25 AM »

[The dulcimer can take you as far musically as you wish to go, or like myself you can just play for your own
personal enjoyment. ]

But Dave,
 I recall with fondness the memory of your entertainment  of a large group of women at a Quartzsite Red Hat Society Tea.  You were awesome and so was your music.

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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2005, 04:08:37 PM »
Retirement gives an opportunity to accomplish things that were impossible during hectic working days.  Playing a musical instrument would be one accomplishment that might be worth working toward.  The problem with misic and RV's can be storage.

A piano are not easy to fit into the average rv.

Whatis an easy instrument to learn for someone with average ability, not much musical background but a desire to play?

Casio, Yahama and a bunch of others make excelent electronic keyboards, Some do a very good piano,  Plus, Have you ever watched Star Trek: The Next Generation?  Well... There was an episode where a woman came on board and she had brought a roll up piano with her

You can get one, I don't recall if it's Signals or Wirelsss (The stores for Public TV and Radio) or "The music stand" (Do the www. and .com thing and you should hit them in no more than 3 tries) that sells them

However,,, RVers often are parked near campfires... And a Campfire, with a bunch of folks sitting around with copies of somethng like /Rise Up Singing/ and at least one of them with a guitar.. Now that's an american tradition
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2005, 07:33:22 PM »
Retirement gives an opportunity to accomplish things that were impossible during hectic working days.  Playing a musical instrument would be one accomplishment that might be worth working toward.  The problem with misic and RV's can be storage.

A piano are not easy to fit into the average rv.

Whatis an easy instrument to learn for someone with average ability, not much musical background but a desire to play?

Acoustic guitar.   Harmonica.
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2005, 07:31:03 PM »
I will have my Dobro along with me.  I'll sell my regular acoustic to save on size and the fact I haven't quite figured it out yet.  Jolene will probably take both the mandolin and fiddle.  The mando is nice because small, and it is not that difficult tp play.  Using tab as has been mentioned will get you thru a melody.  Learn some chhhords and you are in. 

Probably most portable instrument is your voice.  If you can sing, you are welcome at any bluegrass jam.

That brings me to the genre question.  Classical, country, bluegrass, rock, or hip hop.  Many others as well, bu the genre will have a big inout on the instrument.  Cymals aren't used much in bluegrass, nor is the banjo in hip hop. 

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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2005, 07:42:22 PM »
Would you elaborate on what a dobro is?  I've heard the term and believe it is a variation of a guitar..but would like to understand more.
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2005, 12:37:26 AM »
Hi Bill,

A Dobro is as big as a guitar!!! We have a former neighbor who played one in a blue grass band for several years. He now Emcee's many of the CT shows. I'll bet he does the East Hartford show. His name is Glenn Huffer.

I have two tin whistles but have been thinking about trying a Dulcimer. So many instruments, so little time. :)

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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2005, 05:02:16 PM »
I understand there are a few dulcimers and maybe even players at TGO!  Some instruments have not seen the light of day in quite a while...do they lose their music if they are not played    ???
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2005, 06:34:31 PM »
I understand there are a few dulcimers and maybe even players at TGO!  Some instruments have not seen the light of day in quite a while...do they lose their music if they are not played    ???

There's an ad in The Happenings for Dulcimer players and wannabe's. I may check it out when we get back.

If you are going to store the Dulcimer for a long time, just like the pipes, you need to plug all the holes so the music doesn't leak out. ;D ;D

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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2005, 10:54:36 AM »
Luv2rv:

Whatis an easy instrument to learn for someone with average ability, not much musical background but a desire to play?

You can purchase a kids guitar for less than $50. I found one at CostCo a number of years ago and was able to answer the question, "Could I ever play one of these", prior to buying a real guitar. An acoustic would be a nice instrument not only for the RVer, but also, for those around the campfire that could also enjoy and sing along. Just as with keyboards, you can find easy to learn from books as well.

I "mess around" with the guitar but my interest is more in a "non RV" kinda instrument -- the trumpet. I began playing while in high school, so it wasn't a decision I made with RVing in mind. Actually, I stopped playing just after my Navy days 1/2 century ago and am now exploring taking it up again. It IS a tough instrument to practice on in an RV. ;D However, Yamaha for one makes a practice mute that is real clever that muffles the sound so only you can hear it by way of earphones. I have several mutes that I use plus pick the time of day to lessen the problem of annoying my neighbors while I decide if I will ever be able to play again.

Another thought for you is private instruction once you decide on an instrument. While visiting my sister in Austin earlier this spring, I just went to the local phone book, plus Google, and found very good private lessons.  While there, I took 4, $20 lessons within a 10 miles of my parking place. I am now working on what I was taught there, and will soon seek another group of lessons here in NCal. You can mess around on your own (which is great fun as well), or, if your want to move along faster, I would find a good pro to work with from time to time. Bad habits that we teach ourselves are hard to break if we have done a good job. :D this would also move you in the right direction as far as learning a bit about reading music and some basic music theory.

Good luck on your search for the right instrument. It is nice that you plan to move in a music direction. At what ever level you begin or continue, not many things will ever give more enjoyment and satisfaction. Unfortunately, my horn is not for playing around a campfire. :-[ Here's a link that explains my renewed interest in the horn, FWIW:

www.rvspacemanager.com/trumpetStuff.htm
 
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2005, 07:12:57 PM »
Bob,

I think more people would tolerate the trumpet rather than the bagpipes. ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2005, 08:06:11 PM »
Bob,

I think more people would tolerate the trumpet rather than the bagpipes. ;D ;D ;D


Jim, it would probably be a toss up!! But, hey, if we happen to get to a rallye campsite earlier and find other folk or critters have taken up our space, we could just play a duet or two. That would probably even run the cayotes off :o
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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2005, 09:04:36 PM »
Bob,

I think more people would tolerate the trumpet rather than the bagpipes. ;D ;D ;D


Jim, it would probably be a toss up!! But, hey, if we happen to get to a rallye campsite earlier and find other folk or critters have taken up our space, we could just play a duet or two. That would probably even run the cayotes off :o

Let me know when you need help and I'll be there!!! ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2005, 07:31:59 AM »

But Dave,
 I recall with fondness the memory of your entertainment  of a large group of women at a Quartzsite Red Hat Society Tea.  You were awesome and so was your music.

Betty

Thanks for the kind words Betty. Hopefully I have improved some since then. I have been to several week long workshops and lots of practice.

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« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2005, 02:06:31 PM »
[I have been to several week long workshops and lots of practice.]

OK Dave, How can we book you for our next rally?  keep your travels public so that we might all know where to find such fine entertainment.  With the new learnings are you going to charge  more for admission to your concerts in the future? I recall we got  our money's worth  last time you played for forum Floozies.

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« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2005, 06:17:34 AM »
Jim, yup just like a guitar.  Steve a dobro or resophonic guitar is essentially a guitar body with an 11 inch sound hole, with a spun aluminum cone inside.  Looks like a speaker cone.  There is something called a spider bridge over the top, it the strings stretch across.  Over all this is a cover late, usually chrome, with a pattern cut out.  We sometimes refer to this as a hubcap.  Within this there are 2 variations, 1 is a roundneck, which is the same sort of neck a regular guitar has, and is played in the same fashion.  The other, is a squareneck, this has a very beefy neck, squared off, and this is played horizontally., you use a steel slide for 'fretting', and it is tuned to open G tuning. 

(too technical I know...  )

If you have aver seen Alison Kraus and Union Station play on TV, you may notice the guy on your left side of the stage.  That is Jerry Douglas, he plays the dobro.  Heck of a nice guy too!  Had the chance to meet him a few times. 

Dobro is typically a bluegrass or country music instrument, but the roundneck is featured in a lot of blues music. 

Then again, you may just think of it as a steel guitar, or Hawaiin guitar.  There are more subtleties, but we don't need to hit those. 
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« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2005, 07:46:47 PM »
[I have been to several week long workshops and lots of practice.]

OK Dave, How can we book you for our next rally?  keep your travels public so that we might all know where to find such fine entertainment.  With the new learnings are you going to charge  more for admission to your concerts in the future? I recall we got  our money's worth  last time you played for forum Floozies.

Betty

For you Betty the price is always free. Besides if I charged people may be more inclined to throw things.
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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2005, 09:15:45 PM »
My wife had always longed to learn to play the piano and, about a year ago, bought a Roland (baby grand) piano and started music lessons. She's so involved with those lessons, that I could see that our motorhome outings could be compromised, so I inquired about a professional keyboard and learned that Roland makes a couple of them. The sound that's produced would fool a well trained ear....tho the cost could scare you. I bought one for her and sprung it on her on our last trip.

I don't know how you guys figure it, but long ago I adopted the motto "happy wife, happy life" and all I can say is the happy music coming through our motorhome is well worth my investment. The Roland is a top-of-the-line instrument and not a toy. She's never going to be a concert pianist, but by-God she's a happy camper.
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2005, 09:45:29 PM »
Hi Bob,

You are one very smart individual!!! I agree with your theory about happy wives. Glad it has worked out and, perhaps, someday we will hear a great concert from your better half. ;)

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« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2012, 11:19:02 AM »
Maybe a mandolin or fiddle. In the really small and inexpensive department is the harmonica.
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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2012, 12:26:55 PM »
Nice easy portable for steel guitar type instruments is a lap steel.  Use one of the little lunch box amps, create sound level of an acoustic.



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An inexpensive option would be a ukulele you can make yourself from recyclable materials:

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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2012, 12:59:02 PM »
I see an interesting old thread has come back to life.

I perform at a variety of outdoor festivals and through that have come to know many other musicians who have an interest in outdoor, acoustic performance.  As a rule we have to carry our instruments all day so as a community we have over time figured out some things that do and don't work.

The smallest, lightest, and most durable instruments suitable for performance are hand percussion (shakers, tambourine, finger cymbals, etc) and the "Irish" whistles.  There are a number of better quality sets of whistles out there and a few boutique makers who produce sets with a single fipple and interchangeable bodies to cover a variety of keys.  It takes at least three whistles to cover enough different keys to be useful for performance.

Next on the list are mandolin, violin, and flute, which aren't as durable but are still small and light.  We find that the mandolin is the smallest instrument that can, by itself, provide useful accompaniment to a singer.

While the guitar is a larger instrument there are backpacking guitars that work out OK, and a few of my friends use them for public performance.  My road guitar is a cheap Ibanez cutaway that has a built in pickup and tuner, which means I don't have to buy new tuners all the time (they inevitably get lost once in a while, and more often if you're a street performer).  I have a tuner app for my android phone but it isn't practical to pull it out in the middle of a show.

The accordion is the most portable of the keyboard instruments.  Newer accordions are typically smaller and lighter than those from the "golden age of the accordion" (1950s).  Mine weighs about 15 pounds.  The stylistic range that can be achieved by a competent player on a good instrument is considerable.  They're not just for polkas and waltzes.

I have a stage piano and while it is portable and can withstand the rigors of the road it's big and weighs 40 pounds, and I don't usually bring it along unless I have a gig that absolutely requires it.  It requires a stand, amp, speakers, stool, cables, and so on, although I guess there are consumer models that are self-contained and have little speakers built in.

I have trouble recommending some of the common folk music store instruments that lack expressive and stylistic range because it still takes work to learn to play them but they can't be made suitable for performance.  The psaltry, mountain dulcimer, and autoharp are all in this category IMO.
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« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2012, 10:35:02 AM »
Here's a vote for Voyage-Air guitar.  Full-size acoustic guitar that folds in half, and fits into a backpack case.  I used to take a full-size guitar in the 5th wheel (packed standing-up in the shower), but the Voyage-Air is just so darn handy.

It comes with a back-pack case and the guitar with case weighs around 10-pounds!  Very handy for wandering around campgrounds to join a jam session that pops up from time to time.

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« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2012, 02:08:51 PM »
Retirement gives an opportunity to accomplish things that were impossible during hectic working days.  Playing a musical instrument would be one accomplishment that might be worth working toward.  The problem with misic and RV's can be storage.  A piano are not easy to fit into the average rv. Whatis an easy instrument to learn for someone with average ability, not much musical background but a desire to play?

I have a Mountain Ocarina and purchased Learning to Play Mountain Ocarinas from the same company and it is easy and for the first time I am actually beginning to be able to relate the dots on the page to the notes on my instrument!  It is fun for me and the accomplished players I have heard can get some soulful music out of one.

I also own an autoharp and I LOVE them!  Easy to chord, and lots of capacity for noting that I might someday grow into.  Another delightful instrument and the autoharp crowd of people are absolutely the nicest people.  Cyberpluckers is the list for autoharp discussions and I think some of them also RV.  There are some GREAT autoharp players out there who produce amazing expression in their playing.  I've several CD's of it on my computer. 

Both instruments are small and easy to find space for in an RV.  Also, neither requires electricity so it doesn't matter if I am powered up or not in the RV we are redoing ourselves.

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« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2012, 02:15:58 PM »
Certainly agrtee on the dulcimer.  I am sure there are many accomplished players out there, but back in FL we had 3 come to our jams, and each would get a turn and play at 1/2 regular speed.  Yawn.  Now I am not a very good dobro player, and would skip my turn, but dang, waiting through the dulicmer was painful.

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« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2012, 02:57:07 PM »
Jim,

[[ My problem is I really don't read music!]]

There are music books for various instruments for people who do not read music.  These books show the melody in so called   Tabs.

"Tabs" (or Tablature) defined- Tabs are a simplified way to notate instrumental solos, instrumental parts, melodies and songs, without having to formally read music"

In the case of a harmonica, for example, the tab will indicate hole 5, blow or draw  in a shorthand form which becomes second nature to read after very little practice.

This allows someone like me with virtually no ability to read music to play my favorite melodies on my harmonica.

Music for the dulcimer is much more likely to be in tablature format than in "standard" musical notation. You can also find several books of dulcimer music with CDs so that you can hear what you are seeing.

If you are at all handy, there are dulcimer kits available at rather modest prices. I built one for my daughter. Although I am far from an expert woodworker, the sound quality was comparable to quality, ready made dulcimers.

My one problem with it is that (like any similar instrument) it needs frequent tuning. I don't have a real good ear, so I need to use an electronic tuner.

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« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2012, 03:13:20 PM »
Bob,

I think more people would tolerate the trumpet rather than the bagpipes. ;D ;D ;D

I have a bagpipe chanter which is generally far more tolerable than the whole bagpipe. I've not learned it, but I understand that once you can play the chanter, transitioning to full pipes is fairly easy.

Farther on up, somebody asked about storing a dulcimer for prolonged periods. Extremes of humidity can adversely affect anything made of wood. Other than that, just loosen the strings a little bit.

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« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2012, 04:30:20 PM »
Joel,

It certainly is true that moving from chanter to full bagpipes is much easier once you have mastered the chanter. As you probably know, the music is really played on the chanter. and the rest of the instrument is for accompaniment. The hardest part of the full pipes is getting your lip conditioned (helped greatly with chanter practice) and the lungs capable of filling the bag as needed. Getting the rhythm of breathing and filling is pretty easy with practice. Once you have all that you will be amazed at how easy it is to play the Great Highland Bagpipe!!

I hope you decide to learn how to play. Once you do you will find it very rewarding. I still carry a practice chanter in the coach. Finally took the pipes off last year after having carried them for 11 years and only practice a couple of times. i do miss it but I'm just not in one place long enough to join a band which is the very best way to learn!!
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« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2012, 04:48:53 PM »
... I'm just not in one place long enough to join a band which is the very best way to learn!!
Amen brother. That is the one thing that really bothers me about full timing, I want to be in a band again but it is impossible when I am living in a new town every week :o
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« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2012, 06:09:30 PM »
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I spent about 20 years with an Irish Pipe Band, starting as a side(snare) drummer, moving to Tenor drummer, and then on to the pipes. I was struck by the beauty of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards' version of Amazing Grace. I only wanted to learn to play that tune.

After many months of practice with the band pipers I was asked by the Pipe Sergeant when I was going to play on the street. I said I wasn't ready but he disagreed. I finally did and our son took the tenor from me. It was probably one of the most rewarding accomplishments I have ever had and marching in parades was exhilarating. Of course, the good times after where really fun. ;D ;D

I doubt I will ever play with a band again but I still enjoy listening to them and reminisce of those good times. :)
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Jim - I was in the orchestra and marching band in high school. One of the high points of my life. We marched in many parades and half times doing the formations and the whole 9 yards (pun intended). I played a tom tom with aluminum handle felt mallets and had a ball. Our band leader, Mr. Earl Jardine, wanted the drums as loud as possible so he had a standing offer of a chocolate malt to any drummer who broke a drum head while marching. Of course you aren't going to break a properly tuned plastic drum head with a felt mallet, but that didn't stop me from trying. I remember coming home with bleeding hands and having to wash the blood off the drum. The outfit was wool and weighed a ton. I remember marching in the Palm Springs Easter Parade and almost passing out from the heat.
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« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2012, 06:37:04 PM »
Jim - I was in the orchestra and marching band in high school. One of the high points of my life. We marched in many parades and half times doing the formations and the whole 9 yards (pun intended). I played a tom tom with aluminum handle felt mallets and had a ball. Our band leader, Mr. Earl Jardine, wanted the drums as loud as possible so he had a standing offer of a chocolate malt to any drummer who broke a drum head while marching. Of course you aren't going to break a properly tuned plastic drum head with a felt mallet, but that didn't stop me from trying. I remember coming home with bleeding hands and having to wash the blood off the drum. The outfit was wool and weighed a ton. I remember marching in the Palm Springs Easter Parade and almost passing out from the heat. Of course we spent a lot of time playing "Wipe Out". ;D
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« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2012, 08:47:44 PM »
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« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2012, 09:59:33 PM »
Whatever instrument you choose, make sure that you purchase it because you want to play it, not because it saves room.  Acquaint yourself with the instruments that are on your list and choose accordingly.  Think ahead.  That harmonica will fit in your shirt pocket but will you have the wind and tongue/lip coordination to play it?  Are your fingers too big for a mandolin or uke?  Will you buy a guitar and three months later decide you don't like having to learn chords, or worse yet, you have no rhythm?  Does the dulcimer create a sound that soothes your soul and urges you to express yourself?  Just saying...choose that which moves you and you'll enjoy it more.  And when you have chosen, play it, play it, play it...
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« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2012, 11:46:02 AM »
If you are interested in guitar, check out this one:
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/guitar/silent_guitar/

The top hoop dismounts making it small for storage. It comes in steel or electric string and has a built in amp for headphone use. It also has 2 levels of built in reverb, and an input for a CD player (for you to play along with) and an output to an amp. The sound is acoustic, even though you have to use battery or plug in for it to work. OTOH, you can practice finger exercises relatively silently, while watching tv, etc, especially on the nylon version. Finally, the playability is phenomenal. Very low action, very friendly neck and frets. Brian May uses one in some of his shows.

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If you are interested in guitar, check out this one:
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/guitar/silent_guitar/

I use the Silent Brass system for trumpet by Yamaha. One could hardly hear the sound from 5 feet away, whereas the sound in my headset is almost pure trumpet. Plus there is a lot of flexibility for recording and such with the control unit. They will range from $99. to $150. according where purchased. I paid $120. at a music store in Austin.
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« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2012, 01:40:06 PM »
That Yamaha instrument, or its bugle equivalent, might have been a good gift for one of our local Delta characters. Hal Schell, who lived full time aboard his boat on the California Delta; He was well known for rising at dawn while anchored in some secluded (peaceful?) slough and playing Reveille on his bugle. Hal passed away in 2006, and nobody has stepped forward to take his place playing the bugle at the crack of dawn.
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« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2012, 06:22:14 PM »
Did they bury the bugle with him?
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« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2012, 06:35:12 PM »
Yamaha 76 key synth.   Now if I could only lean to play it.  I keep it and the stand in a soft padded carrying case.  It's about 1/2 the size of my golf bag and much lighter.  Great way to unwind.   
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« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2012, 07:08:44 PM »
While visiting the home of a fellow ukulele band member today, I was introduced to the charanga aka charango, a Peruvian instrument. It's about the size of a small-medium sized ukulele, but has a different shaped back and 10 strings. Tuning is like ukulele 'C' tuning, but with an extra 'E' (GCEAE). The middle two 'E' strings are tuned an octave apart.

The instrument is part of the lute family, so it has a brighter sound than a ukulele, and the extra strings give it a fuller sound.

This Wiki says that the back was originally made with the shell of an armadillo, giving it the unique shape. But it's now made from wood, retaining the original shape.

Here's a You Tube video of a Peruvian playing the charango and the zampona, a pan flute. Interesting mix of sounds, and an interesting strum on the charango.
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« Reply #55 on: July 20, 2012, 07:48:14 PM »
Wow, those guys are pretty good!
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« Reply #56 on: July 20, 2012, 08:15:53 PM »
Aye that's true Steve. I just don't have 10 fingers on my left hand  ;D

The pan flute might attract some complaints in a campground, but it sure adds to the eclectic style of South American music.
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« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2012, 08:39:21 PM »
I just don't have 10 fingers on my left hand

Simple enough to play, at least if you have any experience with an 8 string uke or a mandolin...five pairs of strings, learning the chords and scales would probably be the hardest part I would think.

I would love to learn how to play a Sitar, but after researching it there's a let more to it than meets the eye, it's a hole 'nother can of worms, not to mention it would require more storage than your ordinary acoustic guitar.
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« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2012, 09:14:25 PM »
Right Tom, I never could get the grasp of tuning the instrument.  The frets are movable and are tied to the instrument.  I'm amazed just to watch Ravi Shankar and his daughter play. 
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« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2012, 10:44:47 PM »
Amusing, but never really liked the sound of sitar. 
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Amusing, but never really liked the sound of sitar.

I suppose it's difficult to appreciate, might sound too "twangy" to some, it did to me too until I realized the how the structure of the instrument creates its unique sound and just how superb a musician some Sitar players are. 

Below is a link to a raga performed by Ravi Shankar and featuring his daughter Anoushka.  Watch and listen to it and you might enjoy his fingerpicking technique, his sheer speed is amazing on some of his runs.  His daughter, although in traditional garb here, is very much into modern music and blending it with more traditional Indian ragas.  I must warn you it's a bit long perhaps at 11 minutes, about the length of a short Grateful Dead number.

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« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2012, 12:29:34 AM »
I suppose it's difficult to appreciate, might sound too "twangy" to some, it did to me too until I realized the how the structure of the instrument creates its unique sound and just how superb a musician some Sitar players are. 

Below is a link to a raga performed by Ravi Shankar and featuring his daughter Anoushka.  Watch and listen to it and you might enjoy his fingerpicking technique, his sheer speed is amazing on some of his runs.  His daughter, although in traditional garb here, is very much into modern music and blending it with more traditional Indian ragas.  I must warn you it's a bit long perhaps at 11 minutes, about the length of a short Grateful Dead number.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xB_X9BOAOU&feature=related
An interesting sound, but if you have to sit like that to play a sitar, then leave me out.  I'd be stuck in that position the rest of my painful life.
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« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2012, 08:51:02 AM »
An interesting sound, but if you have to sit like that to play a sitar, then leave me out.  I'd be stuck in that position the rest of my painful life.
From what I understand it really helps to study yoga if you want to play the sitar. That helps sitting and playing the sitar since it is an awkward instrument to play. I have seen Ravi Shankar in concert twice and it was two of the high points of my life. He is one of the most amazing musicians I have ever seen. But I have never had any desire to learn the sitar.
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« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2012, 09:10:24 AM »
I give high kudos to sitar musicians.  An interesting note, Sitar is a combination and contraction of sit - arse  meaning position the yogas sit in to play.  The instrument was designed to fit this position.  the sound is what happens with the acoustic form the instrument took, and the screeching sound takes your mind off the pain you are enduring sitting there.  The pain it inflicts is the sharing of pain with the musician.

I didn't make this up, it just came to me in a vision while listening to that link.

As to hearing him in concert being two high points in your life?  I have no doubt.  I would have had to have been high as well. 


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« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2012, 09:18:24 AM »

As to hearing him in concert being two high points in your life?  I have no doubt.  I would have had to have been high as well. 
Nope, I saw him first in 1967 at the Hollywood Bowl and the second time in 1974 on George Harrison's Dark Horse tour. I didn't get high the first time until 1977 so I was straight as an arrow both times I saw him. I recently bought Concert For George and his daugher conducting was one of the high points of the concert.
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« Reply #66 on: July 21, 2012, 09:28:26 AM »
An interesting instrument, and clearly a good musician, but I'd think it would be too big to take along in our RV. Like Bill, I'd have trouble listening to it for any length of time. My bod wouldn't allow me to sit like that; Whenever I've eaten at Japanese restaurants with the very low tables, they've had to find me something to sit on besides the tatami mat.

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Re: Need RV Size Musical Instrument
« Reply #67 on: July 21, 2012, 09:53:06 AM »
Does George Harrison play the sitar?

Yes.  I've seen photos of George and Ravi Shankar playing together.

I played a Sitar once, or I guess I should say I tried to play it once.  Needless to say, I sat in a chair and placed the kaddu, the large bowl shaped base of the instrument, on a small table to my right. 
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Re: Need RV Size Musical Instrument
« Reply #68 on: July 21, 2012, 10:09:23 AM »
Thanks Steve. Now that I think of it, I think I might have seen a video clip of that on TV.
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Re: Need RV Size Musical Instrument
« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2012, 10:21:27 AM »
Isn't Indian music (sitar) played on a different scale?  One of the reasons it sounds so dissonant to western music ears.  I am just not evelved enough to appreciate this stuff.

Back on topic, you would need a big RV to carry one, and some evolved neighbors on campsites to play it.  Accordians are much easier to transport. 
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Re: Need RV Size Musical Instrument
« Reply #70 on: July 21, 2012, 10:25:25 AM »
George became interested in Eastern music in 1965 when the Beatles were making the film "Help". George met Ravi the next year and took a few lessons from Ravi. But by 1968 George had given up the sitar due to the fact that to become merely good at playing the sitar requires 8 hours a day of practice, not including yoga, for about 20 years. George and Ravi remained best of friends until George died 10 years ago.

Bill - Yep, it uses a few different scales with a lot more notes per scale than western scales. That is why they sound so odd, notes in between notes. It does take a while to get used to the sound, but once you do it is incredibly beautiful music.
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Re: Need RV Size Musical Instrument
« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2012, 11:42:14 PM »
It is that time spent getting used to it....

Too old for that now.
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