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On reflection, there is no physical reason for not taking a big vehicle up/down the Moki Dugway. It was originally built in the 50's to transport Uranium ore from the Mesa down to Mexican Hat for processing. So I imagine those ore trucks were quite big.
 
While I'll agree that a large vehicle will fit, I still don't suggest it.  The washboarding will be rough on the RV contents, and even with the paving of the switchbacks meeting another large vehicle coming the other way can be tight.
 
Of course if you are 40 ft long and weigh 10 tons then that becomes a problem for the traffic coming the other way
 
I forgot to mention that I watched the bus make the last hairpin turn & it appeared that it had rear wheel steering, like some Mazda 626 sedans from the late 1980s.  This would allow it to make sharper turns.  The coach is a Setra TopClass S417 http://www.setra-coaches.com/images/coaches/Setra_TopClass_FINAL_2010-29-01.pdf which is built by Daimler in Germany for the narrow, winding roads in Europe.  I guess it is right at home on the switchbacks of the Moki Dugway.

Mike Wagner
 
ceemike said:
We did Moki Dugway in May in our toad going uphill.  The DW wasn't sure she wanted to do it until we saw a tour bus as big as a Prevost coming down.  See the attached photo.  DW figured if something that big could do it it must not be too bad.  On the way up we encountered a Class C motorhome, a livestock water tanker truck & a dirt bike all coming downhill in addition to the usual assortment of cars & SUVs. 

If you get to Mexican Hat you need to have dinner at the Swingin' Steak. 

Mike Wagner

That steak place is really excellent! I've been there 3-4 times and each time was great.  The motel is marginal.  I recommend going before sunset if you like being able to see your food.
 
taoshum said:
I recommend going before sunset if you like being able to see your food.
If you get there late you can eat by the light of the wood fire from the grill. ;D 

Mike Wagner
 

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Getting close!

I am now here.

Today, we spent most of the day in Arches National Monument.

And what good timing. I just turned 62 a couple of weeks ago and I now have my Senior Pass.

We ended up taking US 50 most of the way here.

-Don- in rainy  Towaoc, CO.
 
Betty Brewer said:
I second what everyone said about Mesa Verde.  Take a couple of Ranger led tours.  You will learn  so much about ancient history.
Will most likely be our next stop! Sould be there before the end of today!

-Don-  Towaoc, CO.
 
DonTom said:
I am now here.

Today, we spent most of the day in Arches National Monument.

-Don- in rainy  Towaoc, CO.

If you drove from Arches to Towaoc yesterday, we were traveling the same roads ! Did you see a Class A towing a yellow VW anywhere?

When you go to Mesa Verde, be sure to stop first at Far View Visitor Center to check on tour availability and pick up tickets.

Nice weather for the doggies staying in the motorhome.

Enjoy our beautiful area.
Wendy
 
Wendy said:
If you drove from Arches to
Towaoc yesterday, we were traveling the same roads ! Did you see a Class A towing a yellow VW anywhere?
I Don't think so. A 1974 yellow VW bug in tow would be hard to miss! Besides that, it was dark already during our drive to Towaoc.
Wendy said:
When you go to Mesa Verde, be sure to stop first at Far View Visitor Center to check on tour availability
and pick up tickets.
We got there just a little too late for any tickets. But there's a lot to see
from the road anyway.
Wendy said:
Nice weather for the doggies
staying in the motorhome.

The doggies got out a lot. The rain has been off and on where we have been, never lasting all that long.
-Don- (now in Ignacio, CO)
 
I just spoke with some friends who were on some unpaved roads near Chinle.  Got caught in a thunderstorm, instant deep mud and stranded over night.  They had to use a satellite phone to call for help.  B4Warned if you are out and about in that area.
 
We just got home from Flagstaff while on a rally with our Chevy SSR club! There were 4 of us  from Michigan plus Ohio, Indiana and Illinois traveling in a caravan.
On the way out to Flag we did all the canyons plus Monument Valley. Don't forget to add the John Wayne museum to your must visit list!

Scott
 
taoshum said:
I just spoke with some friends who were on some unpaved roads near Chinle.  Got caught in a thunderstorm, instant deep mud and stranded over night.  They had to use a satellite phone to call for help.  B4Warned if you are out and about in that area.
We were on some unpaved roads too, didn't get stuck, but mud everywhere. Was lucky to get out on our own (one walking to find best path out). But in case we do get stuck, I can call for a tow on my Spot Messenger, which also works via satelite.

-Don- Monument Valley, Utah
 
Here are some destinations you should consider hitting on your way there or back:

  • Zion NP (on the east exit there is a tunnel you need to check on. You will need an escort. Check with the park web page on clearance.)
  • Cedar Breaks National Monument, Stay at Duck Creek National Forest campground nearby.
  • Bryce Canyon. While there, consider staying at the national forest campground at Red Canyon, which is maybe 15 miles west of the park. Take photos at sunset at red canyon after shadows fill Bryce canyon.
  • Escalante National Monument - If possible (using a towed/toad) drive from Boulder Utah, out Hole in the Rock to Devil's Garden, which has very scenic hoodoo formations. A lot of this is washboard dirt road, impassible when wet. But you don't absolutely need a 4wd, but good clearance is required. I drove it no problem in my Chevy 1500 pickup.
  • Capitol Reef National Monument - If possible (using a towed/toad) drive from Boulder Utah, out burr trail road to the dirt road in "Waterpocket Fold", then down the road to Bullfrog, and then backtrack back through waterpocket fold, and up to park head quarters, then west/south back to boulder on the highway. A lot of this is washboard dirt road, impassible when wet. But you don't need a 4wd, but decent clearance is required. As long as there's no mud, it's an easy, though bouncy drive in a Chevy 1500 pickup. Do NOT stay at the campground on burr trail road, unless you walk in to make sure you can get back out. There is no place to turn around! The campsites are small! You CAN boondock in the national forest before you enter the National Monument.
  • Upper and Lower Antelope Canyon, just outside of Page, AZ. I recommend the Lower canyon. Tell them you are a photographer and you can stay as long as you like at no extra cost. Any camera qualifies you. On the upper canyon, you have to stay with the tour.
  • Nearest of these places is Valley of the Gods, a bit north of Mexican Hat. This is an excellent boondocking spot, but has NO facilities of any kind. The view from the escarpment North/west of the valley is very nice, and the Goosenecks is a nearby beauty spot. The mexican hat rock formation is fun.

Essentially, this is part of the "Grand Circle". You could of course expand this to include the Grand Canyon's North and/or South rim.
 
Wendy said:
Well, how did you guys like Mesa Verde?

Wendy
We never seen anything like it before. Seem like it must have been a real hassle for some of those people to get back home! They must have all  been good mountain climbers back in those days.

-Don- Now located here.
 
GregScott said:
Here are some destinations you should consider hitting on your way there or back:

  • Zion NP (on the east exit there is a tunnel you need to check on. You will need an escort. Check with the park web page on clearance.)
  • Cedar Breaks National Monument, Stay at Duck Creek National Forest campground nearby.
  • Bryce Canyon. While there, consider staying at the national forest campground at Red Canyon, which is maybe 15 miles west of the park. Take photos at sunset at red canyon after shadows fill Bryce canyon.[/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l]
  • Been to all of those places in past years, including backpacking in Zion's high country which included a hike down to the canyon (and back)  from the West Rim.
    Escalante National Monument - If possible (using a towed/toad) drive from Boulder Utah, out Hole in the Rock to Devil's Garden, which has very scenic hoodoo formations. A lot of this is washboard dirt road, impassible when wet. But you don't absolutely need a 4wd, but good clearance is required. I drove it no problem in my Chevy 1500 pickup.[/q]
    • Capitol Reef National Monument - If possible (using a towed/toad) drive from Boulder Utah, out burr trail road to the dirt road in "Waterpocket Fold", then down the road to Bullfrog, and then backtrack back through waterpocket fold, and up to park head quarters, then west/south back to boulder on the highway. A lot of this is washboard dirt road, impassible when wet. But you don't need a 4wd, but decent clearance is required. As long as there's no mud, it's an easy, though bouncy drive in a Chevy 1500 pickup. Do NOT stay at the campground on burr trail road, unless you walk in to make sure you can get back out. There is no place to turn around! The campsites are small! You CAN boondock in the national forest before you enter the National Monument.
    • Upper and Lower Antelope Canyon, just outside of Page, AZ. I recommend the Lower canyon. Tell them you are a photographer and you can stay as long as you like at no extra cost. Any camera qualifies you. On the upper canyon, you have to stay with the tour.
    • Nearest of these places is Valley of the Gods, a bit north of Mexican Hat. This is an excellent boondocking spot, but has NO facilities of any kind. The view from the escarpment North/west of the valley is very nice, and the Goosenecks is a nearby beauty spot. The mexican hat rock formation is fun.[/l][/l]
    •   I don't think I have been to any of those places, but we have to save a few places to see for our next trip. Also, we didn't visit Canyonlands, even though we drove right by it, but was kinda late then (about ready to get dark)      BTW,  I just turned 62 a few weeks ago, so I can now get into such places at no charge. I found out about that "senior pass" while at Arches National Monument and used it to get in Mesa Verde for no charge.
            -Don- Elko,NV
 
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