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There are actually two Wal-Marts in the Grand Junction area. One is at the East Side in the Clifton Area and the other on the West Side. We have stayed overnight at each of them.

The Parking restriction is actually a city thing. We were told by the store manager who happened to on duty each time that if we parked overnight, and if we were contacted by police, to just inform the officer that we parked to shop and when we are finished shopping we will move out. We were never contacted by police or asked to leave anytime.

There is also a very nice Colorado State Park just off the Fruita exit of I-70 just across the street from the Fruita KOA. We have stayed at each these also. They are both very nice and both full service.
 
We must just have lousy timing because the times we asked about overnighting at the west Grand Junction Walmart, we were told absolutely not. That was when it was first built so sounds like things may have changed. Actually, it sounds like they have the same policy as the Cortez Walmart where the city put up "No Overnight Parking" signs (at the encouragement of the local campgrounds) but the store managers say it's ok to park overnight so long as you don't park in the employee parking area. Will have to give the GJ WM a try next time we're that way.

Besides the state park on the west side of town, there's also one on the east side, east of Palisades, on the Colorado River. But Colorado state parks aren't cheap.

Wendy
 
Rancher Will said:
The Parking restriction is actually a city thing. We were told by the store manager who happened to on duty each time that if we parked overnight, and if we were contacted by police, to just inform the officer that we parked to shop and when we are finished shopping we will move out. We were never contacted by police or asked to leave anytime.

There is also a very nice Colorado State Park just off the Fruita exit of I-70 just across the street from the Fruita KOA. We have stayed at each these also. They are both very nice and both full service.

Thanks for the info, Will & Wendy.  We love Walmarts when we are traveling because they don't close, we don't have to worry about when we come in, they are well lit, and we don't have to unhook.  We love state parks when we are going to be in an area for a couple of overnights or more.  Next time--actually every time--I will call ahead, which had been my past practice.
 
September 27, 2011 Day 7 Lincoln, Nebraska

I woke with great anticipation.  We waited here in Lincoln for an extra day because the University of  Nebraska International Quilt Museum was closed on Monday, and I really wanted to see it.  It is a gem-rated AAA attraction, and we really enjoyed the quilt museum in Paducah, KY.  Admission was $5, and I am sure it would be a delight for a true quilter.  I have had an aversion to sewing since I had a terrible teacher in sewing class in 7th grade.  Looking back, the teacher was either crazy or mean.  She assigned us to wash polished cotton fabric before we made it into an apron.  My mother said that it was pre-shrunk and would look ?old? sooner, so she refused to let me.  My mother won the battle, but I really believe that the teacher stole my sewing bobbins, thread, etc. to delay my completion of my projects. We each had a drawer in her closet where we were mandated to keep all our belongings, and no one else was ever missing anything.  I wanted to just carry my things in and out every day, and she said that I was trying to not follow her rules.  I was caught between two headstrong women.  Dean does all our sewing.  So, when we went to the first museum, I was thrilled?it was like art on cloth.

This museum?s displays started with quilts from England that were made in the 1840?s.  Sidenotes spoke of the type of quilt, type of knots, and type of stitches, which meant nothing to me. One quilt took 9 years of continuous work to complete. I could see that the stitches were tiny and perfect, which would require time and expertise.  However, it was muted in color and the busy, complex designs didn?t appeal to me. I found this pineapple quilt (Picture 1) attractive.  One quilt really intrigued me. (Picture 2) From afar, it had an interesting design.  Up close, they look like tumbling blocks.  I discovered the I like bright, scenic, or geometric quilts.  We stayed less than an hour.

Three Nebraskans recommended that we enjoy a Nebraskan treat?a runza.  It is ground beef, cheese, chopped cabbage and onions, and ?secret spices? wrapped in dough and baked.  It was delicious!  I discovered two other interesting Nebraskan dishes.  They eat chili with cinnamon rolls?they dip the cinnamon rolls in the chili!  Also they have ?frings?, which is a half-order of French fries and a half-order of onion rings.

The University of Nebraska State Museum was gem-rated by AAA and us.  I had no idea that there were lots of elephants in Nebraska in ancient times?so many that they estimate that at 1 out of every 10 homes there is an elephant fossil buried underneath.  We all know that elephants have 2 tusks, but many ancient ones have 4, two extras in the lower jaw.  ?Four Tuskers? were built for power, not speed. (Picture 3) They plowed through the lush forest about 6-14 million years ago.  In later times, the two lower ones grew larger and flatter so the elephant could use them as a shovel (Picture 4 & 5)  They also have the largest mammoth in any U. S. museum. (Picture 6)

In Nebraska, 3 million years ago, hundreds of animals, including hundreds of giant camels (Picture 7) got stuck in the ooze of a drying lake bed and died.  In the 1930?s , paleontologists discovered their remains in a pasture.  I had no idea there even were giant camels?let alone that they lived in Nebraska.  I also learned that 300 million years ago, sharks lived in the warm, shallow sea that covered Nebraska.

They also had good exhibits in their Nebraska Wildlife gallery and Endangered Species gallery.  Their mineral exhibit was sub-par.  The elephants, dinosaurs?actually ALL their fossils were really outstanding.

Staying at Lincoln Race Course Campground?FHU, $45/2 nights
 

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Dean thought I had lost my marbles when I told him I wanted to visit the Historic Pottawattamie County Jail, also known as ?The Squirrel Cage.? (Picture 1) But, it was really interesting.  Pictures 2 & 3 show a model of the jail.  It was 3 stories high, and there were ten pie-shaped cells on each level.  There was one entry point on each level.  The inmate would enter the cell, and then the jailer would crank the cell around.  18 rotary jails were built between 1881 and 1888.  They ranged from new York to Salt Lake City.  This iron jail was build in sections in Indiana, and brought here by rail.  The construction took 3 months and cost $28, 200 (equal to $4 million dollars today).  Each cell (Picture 4) had a toilet in the rear called a ?privy?.  Running water would fill basins above the lining which flushed when full.  There was no provision for washing hands or getting a drink.  The cells were tiny, as you can see from this man-sized mannequin in Picture 5.  And, they put up to 6 people in each cell.  There were only 2 bunks.

The jailer had the whole 4th floor as his quarters, but he also had a sitting room and bedroom on the 2nd floor because he could get to the door quicker when the police would bring in a new inmate. (Picture 6)

Solitary confinement was really harsh.  Anyone unfortunate enough to end up in the tiny room that is the size of a school gym locker (no kidding!), and was fed bread and water twice a day. (Picture 7)  Coffee cans were used as toilets.

There was one shower area, and they rarely used it.  They called it ?laundry day? because they showered wearing their clothes.  They wore the same clothes that they were arrested in for the whole time they stayed there.

Inmates would scale the 28 foot walls and scratch or scorch their names on the ceiling.  There is one recorded fatality from a prisoner falling to his death.  The prison closed in 1965 because they were afraid of prisoners being trapped if there were an earthquake.  And, to think that in California, our prisoners have cable TV!

We returned to the Horseshoe and played blackjack for a couple of hours.  I won $100.  They are giving free buffets to people who play, so we ate a delicious meal there.  Dean came out to the coach, and I played slots and won a nice jackpot!  The head of security walked me out to our coach?very nice!

Staying at the Horseshoe RV Park.  They say they have full hook-ups, but it?s really 50 amps, a place to fill your water, and an RV dump. Weather?84? high.
 

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by the time we left the gift shop (Yes, Ardra, I bought a book)

Of course, Linda.  Doesn't everyone?!?  ;)  Nah, you're just testing to see if I'm here and I am....

The capitol is interesting but that jail is something else.  Never heard of one like that before.  Bet they didn't have many escapes either.

ArdraF
 
ArdraF said:
The capitol is interesting but that jail is something else.  Never heard of one like that before.  Bet they didn't have many escapes either.

ArdraF

Actually, they did have few escapes.  Where there's a will, there's a way.  Apparently one guy went out through behind the toilet and through the pipes in the sewer system.  Yuck!  I guess if you are desperate enough....  For the last 5 years it operated, the fire marshall made them remove the bars from the cells, so it was like one big locked dorm.  They could only keep inmates on the first floor.  The jailer refused to go in unless he had an armed escort.
 
September 29, 2011 Day 9 Council Bluffs, Iowa

We had a wonderful day at the Doorly Zoo.  Thanks to the RVForumers who made us aware of this attraction! We paid our admission of $13.50 (discounted because we are annual members of the San Diego Zoo?Doorly is a partner with many zoos throughout the U.S., so if you support your local zoo, try for the discount).  There were lots of kids and school busses and kids, so we by-passed the first cages and started at the rear of the zoo.  The tram and several other attractions were closed today.  The weather was overcast and breezy, and many of the animals were active. 

I felt like I was meeting old friends when I saw the red river hogs (Picture 1).  They are so ugly that they are cute.  With the tufts on the point ears, the warts on their faces, and their overall body shape, they have no clue that they aren?t gorgeous, and they just embrace life with vigor.  They came running toward us (as a welcome?), but we quickly realized that they were merely snorting among the food on the trail, trying to find their favorite morsels.  They make me smile.

Next, we spotted the beautiful cheetahs.  They were all eleven (11) months old, and they loved playing with each other. (Picture 2)  All of a sudden, without any provocation, one of them let out a growl/scream, and they all took off running around the enclosure, kicking up clouds of dirt. (Picture 3)  They really are fast?even in a pen!

The zoo is divided into several habitat zones, and we especially enjoyed the Desert Dome.  There was a wide variety, and many animals roamed about without being under any control.  Dean and I thought this bright orange and blue long-tailed bird was especially pretty. (Picture 4)

Most of the bears were active.  One black bear showed me a new behavior?he was using his paw as a cup and drinking water.  I thought they would just lean over and lap it up.  We found it unusual that they seemed to be shedding BEFORE winter, and one of them looked like he had a Mohawk. (Picture 5)

The aviary was another favorite spot.  One of this zoo?s strengths is that it provides large enclosures for the animals, and they seem happy and well-cared-for.  The aviary was huge and this Orange Bishop Weaver was especially beautiful (Picture 6).

The lack of obstructive fences made photography easier.  They used moats and geographical features to separate the people from the animals.  This zoo had a nice ?feel?.  We often felt like we were getting a view that others would get only in the wild.

I would highly recommend it.

Oddities we?ve encountered?
1. The U of Nebraska in Lincoln has a dairy store where they sell cheeses and ice cream that they make themselves.  They gave me a taster of sweet corn ice cream?which was surprisingly good.  My son-in-law loves corn, and I wish I had thought to buy some corn ice cream before we left Lincoln.  If anyone reading this lives in MO or Iowa and knows where I can buy some, please let me know.
2. In Lincoln, there are people selling barbecued foods and Mexican foods from stands at the side of the road after 10:30 at night.  We saw three of them!

Staying at the Horseshoe RV Park.  They say they have full hook-ups, but it?s really 50 amps, a place to fill your water, and an RV dump. Weather?69? high, breezy.
 

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September 30, 2011 Day 10 North Kansas City, MO

We drove to the Hitchcock Nature Center in Honey Creek, Iowa, hoping to see eagles and hawks.  We are about two weeks early.  We did meet a fascinating school bus driver who gave us a better appreciation of the flooded Iowa landscape.  What I thought was the Missouri River was actually flooded farmland.  There were two other large ?rivers? between me and the real Missouri.  We contacted AAA for advice on road closures after talking with him, and ended up taking US 59, which was very, very bumpy.  Everywhere we look, we see them repairing the roads, but there are still many roads, including Interstate 29, which are still under water.  You should have heard the anger as the 2 bus drivers talked about the Army Corps of Engineers and how they should have started letting water out of the dams upstream in March.  As they spoke about how the U. S. Government had helped those affected by hurricanes, especially Ike and Katrina, they vented about how all the Iowa claims have been denied.  They felt that the Iowans were especially entitled to compensation, since the Corps of Engineers lowered the dams and sent them a flood worse than they have ever had before.  They are expecting even worse floods in 2012.  I have to agree with that they deserve help.

We didn?t seen any hawks or eagles; in fact, there were very few birds at all.  The bus drivers did tell us that the nearby De Soto National Wildlife Refuge plays host to more than 50 pairs of nesting bald eagles, and there are tons of hawks and other raptors.  All kinds of ducks and waterfowl love it there.  However, DeSoto is still under water,  so we will have to try for it on a future trip.

Boondocking at Harrah?s in North Kansas City, MO Weather?low 70s
 
October 1, 2011 Day 11 North Kansas City, MO

Independence is less than half-an-hour from KC, and we enjoyed seeing Truman?s Presidential Museum today.  It is much like the man?very straight-forward.  The building is impressive, but not at all ostentatious.  There is a great orienting 45-minute movie that put Truman?s decisions in perspective.  I was surprised to learn that when he left the presidency, his approval was less than 30%, although he is well respected today, known for, ?The buck stops here!?

There is a replica of the Oval Office when he was there. (Picture 1) How different it is from the one we saw in Clinton?s Library.  The TV in Picture 2 is just like the first one my family had, that we purchased in 1957.  I was surprised that the Great Seal was a barely discernible raised pattern in the carpet. (Picture 3) I?ve always seen it in red, white, and blue.  There were many easy-to-read transcripts of his papers and explanations of all views on whether or not the atomic bomb should have been dropped.  We spent 2.5 hours there, and we learned a lot, especially about the problems when all the servicemen returned after WWII.  That has implications for us as we withdraw our troops from Afghanistan.  I hope history doesn?t repeat itself.

When we left, we grabbed a quick lunner and went to see, ?How Does She Do It?? at the AMC theatre.  It was a cute comedy.  We had an enjoyable day.

Boondocking at Harrah?s in North Kansas City, MO Weather?low 70s
 

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October 2, 2011 Day 12 North Kansas City, MO

Today we re-supplied and caught up on tasks?Costco run, etc.  KC has every store you could possibly want?even the ultra-expensive, exclusive ?boutiques?.

Boondocking at Harrah?s in North Kansas City, MO Weather?low 80s

October 3, 2011 Day 13 North Kansas City, MO

Today we drove over an hour to Topeka, the capitol of Kansas.  The exterior was covered with scaffolding, part of a remodeling project started in 1999.  The first thing they built was a 2-story garage UNDER the capitol.

The first capitol was completed in 1903, and they are currently restoring it to the way it looked back then, but with new plumbing and electrical systems.  They built it one wing at a time?east wing, west wing, north wing, south wing, then the central core connecting all the wings, and the dome?over a period of 36 years.  It took them the next 99 years to decide what to put on top of the dome?an finally decided on an ?Indian?, Adastra, who is holding an arrow pointing to the North Star.

In 1953, on the 50th anniversary, they has paintings that tell the history of Kansas painted around the rotunda.  They showed Coronado looking for the City of Gold.  Then came a picture of the one battle in the Civil War that was fought in Kansas (The Yankees won.)  Then we saw pioneers building sod houses, which were great because there were no trees, and the sod kept the homes cool in the summer and warm in the winter.  Our guide?s mother was born in a sod house.  She told a story of a lady driven crazy one winter by the whitewash that was applied to the interior walls to create the illusion of plaster walls.  Between the all white inside and the snow creating an all white outside, it was just too depressing.  The next picture was of Lewis and Clark, whose exploration was very important to the development of Kansas.  Following that, we saw pioneers coming on the Oregon/California trail; over 300,000 people came through Kansas.  That continued even after the railroad (which was the next mural) because railroad fare was too expensive, so pioneers kept using oxen and wagons.  The last mural was of the Chisholm Trail and the importance of the cattle who came to the wonderful Kansas pastureland to fatten before being sold.

We went to the third floor on this wonderful elevator that was built in the 1920s (Picture 1).  It is driven by a person with a lever, and she had to line up the elevator with the floor.  By law it will never be automated and will always have a live operator.

As we entered the Senate, I was amazed at its grandeur (Picture 2).  There is 22K gold trimming the edges of the walls and ledges (Picture 3).  The chandeliers are replicas of the original gas lights, and there are 34 stars on each globe because Kansas was the 34th state admitted to the Union.  The columns were totally black with soot from the gas lamps and the senators smoking tobacco products.  They are copper mixed with bronze and silver so they don?t tarnish.  The senate has the 3rd highest dome in the U. S. (Pict. 4)  Then Dean looked back to the entrance and noted its beauty. (Pict. 5)  The desks are the original, 126 year old desks.  However, the chairs are new, but made to the same specifications as the original chairs.  Above the entry is the state seal (Pict. 6)  The Latin words mean, ?To the stars through difficulty.? The leaders of Kansas realized that they were not perceived as being as cultured as the people in the East, so they wanted to have a very grand capitol to show that they were equals.

At the age of 12, children can become a page for a day.  They get a day off from school, their picture taken with the senator from their district, and a paycheck of $3.  Each senator represents 36,000 people.  They meet for 90 days each year, and receive $27,000 plus retirement and health insurance benefits.  They vote by voice vote on 10 bills at once, and the clerk records the votes on her computer.  They can vote a mix of yeas and nays.  The Senate is much more traditional than the House.  They may only speak to the Chair, not each other (except by telephone).  Their office assistant is only paid to work while the senate is in session.  Committees meet after the session is over, but the senators have no help.  The state is a balanced budget on a cash basis, according to the state?s constitution.

As we went over to the House, the glistening of the copper stairs caught my eye. (Pict. 7)  Sunflowers (the state flower) and scrolls were inscribed on the balustrade.

Going into the House was like entering a different world?though it was also pretty.  They vote electronically (Pict. 9); their names appear on the wall, they push their yes or no button, and their vote is recorded.  They can?t speak from their seats?they have to go up to the speaker?s stand.  There is no dome, but there are pretty murals depicting the dawn of liberty, justice, and law.  There are pretty pink ?marble? pillars (actually made of a composite).  Pict. 10  Around the perimeter are 10 names of important founding fathers, including John Brown, who appears in places of honor throughout the capitol.  However, in every picture, he looks like a lunatic with a flying beard and wild, long hair.  He was a famous abolitionist, and while I don?t like his methods?he had a reverend send him rifles labeled as ?Bibles?, he took hostages, and he was a violent person?I do agree with his objective.  I hope my ?take? on his pictures doesn?t offend anyone.  Above the House is an impressive public gallery (Pict. 11)

In 1976, they installed two stained glass windows honoring today?s servicemen (Pict. 8) and the soldiers from the Revolutionary War (Pict. 12).

We went to the governor?s ceremonial office (Pict. 13)  The companion desk has kneeholes on each side of the desk so two people can work at the same time and was made by the students at the State School for the Deaf.  The buffalo over the desk represents the state mammal.  A picture shows the Flint Hills, one of the most massive mountain ranges on Earth, but the mountains are underground.  It is the only place in Kansas where there could be an earthquake.  Our guide told us that Kansas used to extend to Denver, Colorado.  However, they decided to separate because ?mountain people had to be governed differently from prairie people.?

Outside the governor?s office was a circular area with a big history mural.  It began with another picture of Coronado and Padre Padillo.  The padre was very popular with the Indians.  In fact, they like him so well that they killed him because they didn?t want him to ever leave.  This blends into a prairie fire, and John Brown  with the crazy beard and hair.  At the end of the mural is a tornado. 

There are 4 plaster statues, one of which is of Eisenhower.  The interstate highway system was started here by Ike because he wanted to be able to get from Ft. Riley to the airport (according to the guide).  Dean says it was because he wanted to be able to transport military goods and people easily about the United States.

Dean was hungry, so we went to Bobo?s Drive-In, a popular burger place here.  We wanted to see the Kansas Museum of History, which is highly rated.  We drove out there, only to find it closed.  But, it looks interesting, so we postponed tomorrow?s RV reservation by one day.  I?ll have to check days/hours more carefully.

We drove by Hollywood 14 Movie Theatre, and ?Moneyball? with Brad Pitt was just ready to start.  We really enjoyed it and thought Pitt was very convincing in his role.

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More pictures--my numbers in the verbage are off by 1--sorry.
 

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Hi Linda & Dean,

As always your posts are great. I'm originally from Nebraska and I've sure learned a lot about my home state from you.You have given me a list of places for us to visit next time we're there. If you get near the south east part of NE, be sure and stop in Brownville and visit the old Corps of Engineer's side wheeler river dredge they have there. My uncle was the last working captain on it.  Also a stop at the Brownville Milling Co store. They have an exhibit of indian chefs photos that is really great, however the last two times we were there, it wasn't open - don't know why. Also in Nebraska City they have a great display of turn of the century life at the Morton estate, called Arbor Lodge (Morton Salt Mortons and founder of Arbor Day).

Chet
 
Chet18013 said:
As always your posts are great. I'm originally from Nebraska and I've sure learned a lot about my home state from you.

Me too,
Betty

Born in Silver Creek,NE
 
Eisenhower.  The interstate highway system was started here by Ike because he wanted to be able to get from Ft. Riley to the airport (according to the guide)

Methinks the guide was putting a modern "spin" on this story.  What I've heard is that in Eisenhower's early military days, he had to move goods and people across the country.  The logistics were a nightmare because the lack of roads made it a horrendous task.  When he got to a position where he could do something about it (as President) he made having the Interstate Highway System one of his causes.  Lucky for us he did!!

ArdraF
 
October 4, 2011 Day 14 North Kansas City, MO

Today we drove over an hour to Topeka to see the Kansas State Museum.  Admission was $12.  We had chosen to wait an extra day because we thought this would be a premium site.  It is an excellent AAA gem-rated museum, and we learned a lot of individual facts.  The layout was confusing to both of us, and I think we may have missed some of it.  Some of the things I learned
? The ring was put into pigs? snouts to prevent them from digging with their noses.
? Buffalo were used as beasts of burden to pull plows and wagons.  I?ve always heard how dangerous they are, and I wonder how they got them to be compliant.
? There was a concerted effort by the U. S. Army to kill all the buffalo so that it would be easier to get the Indians to move to Oklahoma.
? The bar that Carrie Nation hacked up was re-opened just one hour later, and the owner sold pieces of the wood that was hacked for 5 -10 cents as historic momentos.
? 2/3 of the eligible males in Kansas signed up to fight for the North in the Civil War, the highest of any of the states.
? John Brown cleans up really well.  Instead of the crazy looking man we saw yesterday in the capitol, the photos today showed a clean-shaven man with his hair slicked back.
? Ad Astra, which translates from Latin to ?from the stars? is the name of the fictitious Indian at the top of the capitol?s dome?he symbolizes all the tribes in Kansas (My parents would be so pleased that I finally used my 3 years of Latin for something!)
? Kansas is not PC?we never saw the term ?Native Americans??they were all ?Indians?
? In rain storms, sod houses did sometimes fall down when they got saturated.  I asked that question at the capitol, and I was told it never happened.
? I didn?t realize that they had grass houses (Picture 1) built from bundles of grass tied together.  It also said they buried dried vegetables.  I wonder how they got the vegetables to dry without rotting.
? Kansas was the 9th state to give women the right to vote, before the  US even drafted the first bill.  They decided women should no longer be in the same category as disenfranchised Negroes, crazy people, convicts, and ?idiots? (again, not very PC)  However, the only elected position they could run for at the beginning was school board member.

There was a lot of interesting reading, but after a few hours, it got a bit dreary.  There also is a nature trail with labeled native plants, but it was too rugged for my scooter.

The man at the information desk highly recommended the Brown vs. Board of Education site. He said it was really excellent and told the history of civil rights, not just that one decision.  I wanted to see it, but Dean was not interested, so we came back to Harrah?s and gambled a bit.  I won what Dean lost, so we broke even at their slots, and we had some fun.  We saved money by boondocking here, and they have security cameras, so I felt safe.

I came across this picture (2) of the Topeka capitol when I was downloading the grass hut.  Our guide there wasn?t very knowledgeable, but she had great notes to read to us.  I wanted to know how the Kansas economy is doing, but she had no clue.

I apologize for not proofing this.  We used up our gas boondocking, and the generator quit.  We had already figured out where we'd gas tomorrow (actually...this) morning, so we drove up there.  The credit card company, Chase, rejected our card.  We've done all the travel notifications and have a zero balance, so I called and got that straightened out.  But things got complicated.  Anyway, we had other cards which Dean had used meanwhile, but gassing took forever and included 2 refunds. The station was screwed up also.  I really appreciate the comments, and I'll respond when I write next time.

Boondocking at Harrah?s in North Kansas City, MO Weather?high 80s
 

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Kansas is not PC?we never saw the term ?Native Americans??they were all ?Indians?

Kansas also has Haskell Indian Nations University so the state and the tribes don't care to be PC. And I say good for them.

Enjoying your travelogue. Glad to see you're finding places to visit.

Wendy

Wendy
 
Wendy said:
Kansas also has Haskell Indian Nations University so the state and the tribes don't care to be PC. And I say good for them.

Enjoying your travelogue. Glad to see you're finding places to visit.

Wendy

Wendy

You know so much!  And on so many different subjects.

I say good for them, too.  It's kind of like people...however they say their names is what I'll call them (except when I had students who came in with nicknames like "Stinky" and "Scooter".  I really like the area and the people.  Many of the places we've found are from RV Forumers.  We're headed to Binder Park Campground in Jefferson City today.
Linda
Linda
Linda(I enjoy having fun with you!)
 
Dean & Linda Stock said:
You know so much!  And on so many different subjects.

Actually, we have a friend who works at Haskell. He's Choctaw and he thinks the whole PC "native american" vs. "indian" thing is a hoot.

Happy travels.
Wendy
 
ArdraF said:
Methinks the guide was putting a modern "spin" on this story.  What I've heard is that in Eisenhower's early military days, he had to move goods and people across the country.  The logistics were a nightmare because the lack of roads made it a horrendous task.  When he got to a position where he could do something about it (as President) he made having the Interstate Highway System one of his causes.  Lucky for us he did!!

ArdraF

I agree with you. Your version is the way I've heard it before.  The guide was a sweet volunteer, but probably the worst guide we've had in any of the capitols.  Topeka was very ornate, but I loved Lincoln so much more--it was so well thought out.  I know my views on capitols are heavily influenced by the guides' presentations, and we try to make sure that we get there at the appropriate time for the tours.  On our self-guided tours, a lot is lost in the translation.  In many of the capitols, you can feel the love and pride that the guides feel.
 

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