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« on: December 13, 2011, 04:09:31 AM »
Curious if anyone has ever RV'd in Australia? If so any comments? Would it be best to rent or can you take an RV over on the boat? Would that be cost effective if so? Is it cost effective to rent?

One place I'd like to visit and stay for a time and seems this might be a good way to go in order to see some of the outback.

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 08:05:19 AM »
We have several Australian RVers that post here from time to time so hopefully they will chime in since I don't know much about RVing in Australia. I do know that in Australia they call it Caravanning. If you do go to Australia remember no one goes into the outback with less than 2 spares and the ability to change said spare. Not a lot of RV repair shops in the outback, so it is best to carry a lot of spare parts.

As a scuba diver and a bird photographer it always makes my heart beat faster thinking about visiting Australia. They have the Great Barrier Reef and an amazing collection of birds that can't be seen anywhere else. I just haven't found the right highway yet.

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 08:46:09 AM »
You will need to rent, lhd vehicles are not allowed on their roads. Go for it, that would be the trip of a lifetime. 8)
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 08:50:34 AM »
You will need to rent, lhd vehicles are not allowed on their roads. Go for it, that would be the trip of a lifetime. 8)
I had never heard of lhd vehicles being illegal to use in Australia so I Googled it and found the following information:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_legal_to_drive_left-hand-drive_cars_in_Australia

It appears that it is legal to drive lhd vehicles in Australia, but the rules differ from state to state.

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 09:06:19 AM »
It may be legal to drive one if you already have it, but it's not legal to import one for use..
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2011, 09:30:32 AM »
It most certainly is legal to import a lhd vehicle into Australia. If it was illegal there would never be any lhd vehicles there.

http://www.aaa.asn.au/touring/bringing.htm

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 10:11:17 AM »
I seem to recall that forum staffer Lou Schneider rented an RV in Australia some years ago. Hopefully, Lou will see this and jump in.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 11:21:34 AM »
As I understand it, any permanent import has to meet Australian Design Rules, which preclude Lhd among several other things that are generally incompatible with US RV standards. Glad to see they have an exception for temporary touring - that's quite nice of them!
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 06:04:35 PM »
Hi folks, sorry I am in the middle of the Santa Season so cant look it up for you but there is a Limited Import program whereby LHD and other vehicles can be imported. There are a swag of conditions and requirements and you would need to be talking to professionals about it but the simple take away is that YES, AFAIK you can import LHD vehicles into Australia.
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 07:55:24 PM »
We had a Aussie here a couple years ago who was going through all kinds of machinations because he was not allowed to import a LHD US motorhome. He was trying to find one that was most suitable to being modified once it reached Austrailia, which apparently was something that several shops specialized in becasue a lot of non-Aus spec cars get imported.   He also said he would also have to have to shipped direct to the modifying shop - couldn't pick it up at the dock and drive it there.  There was also a strict rule about the location of the entry door - it could not be on the Aussie street side.   That meant that every US made RV would have to have its US curb side door sealed off and another cut in on the opposite side (the Aussie curb side). Seems to me there were a couple other glitches, but they were minor compared to to the drive and door issues.
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 08:07:11 PM »
Here's a prior topic with several posts by Ian on importing an RV into Australia.

You can also browse this RV'ing outside the USA board for other prior related discussions.
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2011, 08:09:05 PM »
Quote from: Tom
I seem to recall that forum staffer Lou Schneider rented an RV in Australia some years ago.

I forgot that Lou previously corrected me on this one. See his post here.
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 09:00:04 PM »
Darn, Tom - that was quick!  Now you left me with nothing to add to the discussion.   :)

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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 09:05:13 PM »
Oops, sorry Lou. Just wanted to correct my error and lapse of memory  :-[
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 12:45:02 AM »
Hi All,

Thanks for the many responses  and links posted here. I did do a search but didn't seem to get the right responses that I wanted. Probably wrong key words.

Looks like it is a straight forward process of taking your RV with you, if you are only going to be there for a short period (six months or less). My idea would be there for a couple of months or a bit longer.

I'll try to do some research on cost of taking your RV with you. Don't know if that would be cost effective or not. Only problems I see is driving in a reverse environment. My idea is not to drive in populated areas but rather rural settings. I am familiar with some of the hazards that are there. I'd most certainly want to take it slow and easy.

Any other comments people can offer are most welcome. Are there enough people here that might want to caravan in a trip together sometime?? There would be strength in numbers and safety where help can be several hundred miles away. I think the beauty and ruggedness of the country would be worth the trip.

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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2011, 01:00:50 AM »
O.K., did a bit of research (not much) and found that it costs about $3,000 U.S to ship an average size car from the US to Australia. I'd guess that an RV (even a B class) would cost one and a half to two times or even more. I didn't go to the trouble of getting an actual estimate at this time at various places.

There is one place that checks all the shipping companies at once and provides you with choices on price a insurance and so forth.

So it is obvious to me that you don't want to ship your unit over there as the cost is high enough that you can probably rent a nice unit and come out ahead on the deal. There are positives and negatives doing it either way.

Since we have some Aussies here on the forum, I hope to bend their ear and get some info on where to go in order to rent units. I do see that some of the past threads address this cost. Best to all!!


http://www.costhelper.com/cost/home-garden/ship-car-overseas.html
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2011, 03:08:20 AM »
Greetings,

Looks like it takes about 24 to 31 days from California to travel by boat to Australia. O.K. if you have lots of time. I'm not that fond of being on the water but if taking an RV with you and traveling for 24 days I might be tempted.

With the expense of shipping an RV along with the time getting there  (24 or more days there and 24 or more days back) It is becoming crystal clear that flying in about 14 hours and renting is the only way to go, unless you shipped the RV then flew to get your RV as it arrived (which ultimately sounds the best way to go).

I'll keep looking at various options until I figure out what is best. Thanks again for the good advise on this so far!!

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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2011, 09:43:45 AM »
Just put the rv on a freighter and meet it there. No need for you to babysit it enroute - you probably wouldn't even be able to see it, let alone access it.
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2011, 12:44:04 PM »
One thing not mentioned is are the US/CA RVs allowed in AU.  I seem to recall a list of modifications needed that was mentioned a few years ago on this forum.  I think a check with the AU consulate in the US before you go very far in this.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2011, 12:34:20 AM »
Hi Jim,

I think there are links in this thread that touch on this subject. If not then somewhere else in this area of RV'ing outside of the US.

From what I have gathered, if you are not taking the rig there for more than six months, then you don't have to meet the Australian requirements. Talking to the authorities there would be in order to avoid delays and trouble later on.

Hi Gary,

I appreciate your posts! That was my point to put it on a ship and fly over to meet it but the cost seem way too high to justify it (shipping the RV). Probably $4,000 to $6,000 one way! Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.

Flying there and renting seem the cheapest way to go.

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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2011, 11:30:13 AM »
Renting isn't cheap either. I don't know about Australian rates, but I'll bet a month in country is going to run upwards of $4k for a small van and $9k or more for a larger motorhome. Do some research on what you want to rent and for how long before deciding.

Remember, though, if you ship your rv over there, you also have to ship it back.
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2011, 10:13:55 PM »
I would add to Gary's comments that you need to find out about what roads are available.  I've been to the Outback a couple of times and it didn't seem like there were a lot of roads to wander on.  Around the shorelines there are more but the middle of Australia is one huge red desert!  I saw a lot of "road trains" there but not many RVs.  I'll amend that - no RVs.

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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2011, 11:13:27 AM »
If you're planning to tour the Outback, you need something better than a motorhome.   In fact, unless you rent a 4WD based micro-motorhome and agree to be responsible for loss or damage, you'll find the rental companies prohibit taking their vehicles on unpaved roads.

But don't worry - Australia has plenty of paved roads to explore, including routes between all of their major cities including Alice Springs, Darwin and surrounding points of interest.  You can circumnavigate the continent without getting your tires dusty.

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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2012, 01:23:28 AM »
Greetings,

Just found a wonderful site that I feel fits in this section for people that might contemplate traveling to Australia and renting a RV. In the driving in Australia section, they have a place you can plug in a date when you would like to pick up an RV. Asks various questions on type and where you will pick up and drop off. A "B" size Van costs about $114 a day that seems to include everything (as insurance). I got the rate by renting out the RV for 60 days. They have bigger rigs for more money.

Even if you don't go but want to read a lot of information about Australia and travel there in one form or the other, it's a good site. I think the website is a must see.
 
The website is here: http://www.ritas-outback-guide.com/

I believe that a 40 or 60 day rental might be what I am looking for then could finish out my travels by seeing the sites in the more populated areas. I know that beats a boat ride for a month and a half.

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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2012, 02:18:00 AM »
That is a nice site to suggest. Lots of good practical suggestions.
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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2012, 06:25:11 PM »
We have rented several times in Europe through  www.ideamerge.com but they also rent in Australia. They have contracts with various rental companies.
Excellent service and you can play with the website, put in different dates and immediately see the cost. Find out about low/shoulder/high season. We have been exploring this in Australia, wanting to go there for about 5 weeks, and it seems that May is by far the least expensive, for reasons that Aussies have not been able to explain to me.

It seems to me that I read somewhere that 2 months is the breakeven point for shipping/flying vs renting/flying.

Does this help?

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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2012, 08:05:46 PM »
Good to see your post Ian!
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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2012, 10:17:44 PM »
I still drop by now and then Bob, and every time I drive past my local Winnebago (Australia) dealership I keep inviting their Diversion to come home with me LOL
http://www.winnebago.com.au/diversion-campervan-2

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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2012, 01:14:34 AM »
We have been exploring this in Australia, wanting to go there for about 5 weeks, and it seems that May is by far the least expensive, for reasons that Aussies have not been able to explain to me.

Elly

Hi Elly and all,

May is the end of Autumn which is from March to May and Winter is from June to August. It might be a bit cool then unless you stayed in the more tropical regions. My understanding is winter can be mild in the outback but at night it can get down right cold. Add wind and you have a miserable combination.

I am sure Ian can explain much better than I can, living there. Yes, apprecate your comments on rental. Best to all!

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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2012, 06:05:19 AM »
Yes indeed Camper Al, May is starting to be Winter-ish and June is really on for Winter.

Ely, it will still be reasonably nice in much of the Outback but night will require winter clothes as soon as dusk arrives because the temperature drops suddenly once the warmth of the sun goes away. Along the East Coast heading downwards, New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, expect most days to be reasonable unless you get really South. Forget Melbourne, and lower down to Tasmania as Winter will be in with a vengeance. Adelaide and higher shouldn't be too bad but storms are likely at any time. Brisbane and higher up should be rather pleasant weather though again there could be storms blowing through that spoil that nice weather. Generally Perth and higher up shouldn't be too bad but storms are not unknown.

Check out temperatures and much more on http://www.australia.com/
Cheers, Ian - from Adelaide, South Australia. GMT+0930 +1 for Daylight Robbery - Oct to Apr
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