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ArdraF

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« Reply #210 on: December 10, 2012, 03:08:03 PM »
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My Mom died from smoking.  She was a 3 pack a day smoker, and her daily excercise amounted to getting up off the couch to fetch the remote control so she could change the channel to Wheel of Fortune.  She had her first heart failure in 2006, followed by a triple bypass.  They were not going to do the bypass unless she agreed to quit smoking.  They did the bypass and she did quit (made a little easier by me taking all her cigarettes, ash trays, lighters, matches, everything).  But it was really too late.  She was on oxygen from then on, had two more heart failures before the last one finally took her in 2008.  The worst part of that whole ordeal was seeing her in the ER or ICU everytime.  And her final weeks in a nursing home.  I won't go into details, but it was not a good time for me and my family.  My youngest brother was the last one in our family to quit smoking, and though it took him another year after Mom passed away, he did quit.  And Mom was his motivation.

Family and how much a smoker cares for them might be far more of a motivation than money.  We watched both my dad and my mother-in-law die long, slow deaths from smoking-related causes.  I'll never forget my father-in-law saying "Why wouldn't she listen to the doctors?  Now I'm left all alone when we could have had so many more good years together."  My mother lived another 38 years after Daddy died at 56.  Perhaps wanting your wife to have your companionship into old age and seeing your children and/or grandchildren grow up will help motivate you to stop.

On the money side, think about this.  We all pay higher medical insurance premiums because of our/your bad habits.  One of my mother-in-law's month-long stays in ICU cost over $100,000.  Medicare paid it and all our Medicare premiums are going up.  Just something to think about.

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« Reply #211 on: December 10, 2012, 04:28:48 PM »
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  I told my nurse coach that I was shooting for New Years to put the damn things down.  I am already doubting myself to accomplish that promise.
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Don't doubt it -- that's self defeating. Just tell yourself you'll do it, then become a NON-smoker, not an EX-smoker.

When I quit four years ago, I planned it for a few weeks. Finally, with the last carton on hand, I managed to time it so that I finished almost the last cigarette at bed time, then threw the pack away, and told myself repeatedly -- "I am a non-smoker." The next day I told myself that, too. I managed to change my frame of mind from smoker, to ex-smoker to non-smoker in short order. Note that I had no more on hand, by design.

I, too, was still enjoying smoking, but noticed very small things such as getting out of breath a little easier, and my throat was a little drier and scratchier on occasion, and a few other things that finally decided me to try it (it had been almost 40 years since I'd last tried). That next November morning after quitting the craving wasn't real bad, and by the time a couple of weeks had gone by I had only occasional craving.

Perhaps it helped that I'm rarely around smokers these days, but it's been a lot easier these last four years than I'd expected, and now I rarely think about it. If it does come to mind I try to think of something else.

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« Reply #212 on: December 10, 2012, 05:34:35 PM »
All great replies!  Maybe I need a better reason to quit, like Roadhappy mentioned.  Maybe I'm a confrontational type of person.  I kind of figured that anyways based on some previous threads in the past.  One that speaks their mind.  Which would explain the excuses I spewed to the nurse coach.   :-\

Here is where I stand:
I like to smoke.  Smoking helps get me through the night while working.  But, I know I should quit for myself and my family.  The motivation just isn't there.  I told my nurse coach that I was shooting for New Years to put the damn things down.  I am already doubting myself to accomplish that promise.

I know the money savings is a bit of a trivial thing.  But right now, that is the best I can come up with.  The anger towards the insurance companies is fueling the rebellion.  I am trying to come up with more concrete things to base my reasons for quiting on.  And then build upon that.  I'm working on it. 

Allow me to give some advice.
 
Quit rationalizing and thinking about it -- that is just an avoidance device.  Just DO it!
 
Step 1:  Quit. Stub out the last butt of your life.

Step 2:  Throw out all the cigarettes in your house.  Enlist the family in tossing all the ash trays*, lighters, and other smoking paraphernalia in your house, car, garage.  They should destroy cigarettes, cigarettes scatter or flush away tobacco. 

Step 3:   Since smoking has strong elements of oral gratification, pick a substitute like hard candies, chewing gum, or even toothpicks to suck on.   Strong flavored hard candies seem particularly effective in the effort.   Myself, I used clove flavored Life Savers.  (Google the term). 
 
Step 4:  During the early stages, avoid socializing with smokers to the greatest extent possible.   When there is no choice, move up wind and as far away as possible.  Remember pressing matters elsewhere as soon as you can.   If you are invited to a smoked-filled social event -- quickly acquire a case of social influenza and beg off.
 
Step 5:   Your home is a nonsmoking area.   Pass the word.   Exile degenerate nicotine addicts (ie smokers) to the patio or backyard when you must have them over. 
 
Step 6:  Coffee is good, even decaf.  It tastes bitter and sipping it is a good displacement activity.  Keeps the fingers and mouth occupied and helps the getting thru the night.
 
Step 7:   Let it be known that you are a recovering addict.  Do not worry about being kidded by your friends.   If they kid you about saving your life, they are not your friends.
 
The whole process can be a complete bitch.   But hang in and get 'er done.   Take consolation in that if you suceed and quit the weed forever, you will not have to go thru the damn thing ever again.   It will take about 6 months to a year to get completely clear, but within a few months you will discover that the stench of second hand smoke and tobacco stench has become utterly repellant.   That is when you know that you are making it
 
Good luck. 
 
Carl L  -- 3 packs a day but quit in 1965 and am still around at 76 - as of today.
 

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« Reply #213 on: December 10, 2012, 07:38:46 PM »
If you never paid any attention to any advice in your life, please pay attention to Carl L's post.  Especially this:
 

Quit rationalizing and thinking about it -- that is just an avoidance device. Just DO it!
 
He summarized what I had been thinking ever since first reading your message.  I quit in 1989 after 30 years smoking on my own and 20 years breathing parents' smoke.
Said all those statements you have been making about "freedom" and "my rights".  Looking back on those statement, never felt so absolutely stupid in my life!
 
Man up.  Do it.  You'll never regret it.
 
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« Reply #214 on: December 10, 2012, 08:55:23 PM »
I too liked Carl's message but, as someone said, a person will change when they're good and ready, and not before. As a recovering (nicotine) addict, I respectfully suggest that all the well-meaning messages of "encouragement" will, at best, be ignored, and may even have the opposite effect from what was intended.

I started smoking while still in grammar school, and continued for a number of years. My parents first found out after I started work, and my Dad's only advice was "as long as you smoke, you won't have any money in your pocket". This was when I still lived in the UK, where taxes on cigarettes were astronomically high. Dad was right. Today, 88% of the retail price (in the UK) is tax.

I first gave up smoking in the 60's and, 6 months later, I accepted a cigarette from a well-meaning cousin. It made me ill, but the second one made me less ill, and soon I was smoking 5/day, 10/day, and it wasn't long before it was 50/day. That continued until the late 70's. I smoked in bed until I woke up to a cigarette burning my chest. After that, I'd smoke my last cigarette of the day before going upstairs, and first thing in the morning I couldn't wait to get downstairs and light up.

I woke up one Saturday morning to "that (awful) taste", and decided on the spot to skip the first cigarette, and continued to fight the strong addiction for several days, then weeks and months. It's been approx 34 years since the last one, but there are still times when I consciously fight the urge to light up. The really vulnerable times are/were after a meal and after a cocktail. I'm continually reminded of the old UK saying "a pint (of beer) in one hand, and a cigarette in the other".

As an aside, dental hygiene care was non-existent when/where I grew up, and I recall being the only kid to take a toothbrush to school for use after the school lunch. When we first came to California, several years after my last cigarette, my first dental hygiene appointment here released some nicotine trapped in/under plaque. That drove me crazy for several weeks, and I really had to fight hard to ignore it. The next dental hygiene appointment released more plaque and nicotine that was missed during the prior cleaning; Again, I had to fight it for several weeks.

Remember those tobacco execs who, under oath, said "nicotine is not addictive"? They LIED!

Edit: Fixed a few typos and added a few minor clarifications.
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« Reply #215 on: December 11, 2012, 04:08:52 PM »
Any of ya'll (smokers) reading these posts think it's not worth it????  Dead wrong (pun intended) it's fantastic!  No more laying in bed and thinking the congestion and chest clearing cough is 'normal'... The past 9 mos has really been awesome, huge difference in breathing easy!  It is truly amazing how fast breathing clears, if you (smokers) do not believe it, just give it a try for a few weeks and see for yourself.  Last week a guy came up to me at work, he remembered me from the smokers area outside of work last year... Asked how it was going (he knew without asking I had quit) I told him it was great, just plain smart move.  He's giving it a go now, when ever I pass him in the halls I give him a thumbs up!  I'm at over 9mos now, feeling great.  The smell of smokers in the elevators is .... well, 'nasty'... I smile with personal satisfaction now....  No more nasty.
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« Reply #216 on: December 11, 2012, 06:20:28 PM »
Good for you Jim. You set a good example and it's always easy to get inspiration from someone who's doing it 'now' rather than those of us who did it a hundred years ago. Keep it up.
 
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« Reply #217 on: December 11, 2012, 06:32:27 PM »
Well I started the evil habit at four years old. No use in trying to quit.  In fact this thread has caused some stress and I am fixing to go fire one up. Thanks.  Now back in the good old days in the oil patch heard of a fella who could put half a pack of Beech Nut chewing tobaccy in each cheek..half a can of Copenhagen under his bottom lip..drink a beer and smoke a cigarette all at once. Now Paducah Patty could do this too..and she was a girl.

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« Reply #218 on: December 11, 2012, 08:18:17 PM »
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.... those of us who did it a hundred years ago.

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« Reply #219 on: December 12, 2012, 11:04:27 AM »
I don't know what to say.  After reading Carl, Tom, and Jim's reply, as well as the rest of them, I'm at a loss for words. 
I really don't have an excuse, do I?
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« Reply #220 on: December 12, 2012, 12:04:37 PM »
I don't know what to say.  After reading Carl, Tom, and Jim's reply, as well as the rest of them, I'm at a loss for words. 
I really don't have an excuse, do I?

Nope.  But just acknowledging that fact will take you a long way in your journey to quit.   :)
 
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« Reply #221 on: December 12, 2012, 12:11:49 PM »
After re-reading the previous posts (I couldn't help but re-read them), a quick note to AndraF...
My father passed just a couple of years younger than yours.  A totally different reason as to what took him compared to smoking.  But, who really knows?

He quit smoking in his 40's and passed at 54.  A type of MS (rare) finally made his heart weak enough after 8 years to take him.  We still don't know if the smoking made a difference or not.  I'll bet it didn't help matters any!

Just my opinion.

Margi,
Got the reply at the last second.  I hear you.  Thank you!
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« Reply #222 on: December 12, 2012, 01:49:51 PM »
I don't know what to say.  After reading Carl, Tom, and Jim's reply, as well as the rest of them, I'm at a loss for words. 
I really don't have an excuse, do I?

Excuse?   Excuses are what you take to school when you are absent so that you do not get hauled off to the vice-principal's office and put on detention.    All you have here are rationalizations and consequences.   

One last thought:   A person meets plenty of folks who regret having ever started smoking.   Have you ever found anyone who regrets having quit?

Get it done!
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« Reply #223 on: December 12, 2012, 03:49:44 PM »
I hear ya, Carl.  Thanks.
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« Reply #224 on: December 12, 2012, 04:44:21 PM »
All 3 of us have quit - but - we smoke electronic cigarettes with 0 nicotine and 0 tar.  I (Dave) have COPD and my pulmonologist says that I can have all of these I would like.  They are water vapor and flavoring (we like vanilla).  My COPD has improved immensely since I have switched to this.  We started with just 6 mg of nicotine and found that it was soon too much and then we went to 0.  Has done wonders for all of us, and we don't miss not smoking cause we feel like we still do.
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« Reply #225 on: December 12, 2012, 05:01:26 PM »
Well I started the evil habit at four years old. No use in trying to quit.  In fact this thread has caused some stress and I am fixing to go fire one up. Thanks.  Now back in the good old days in the oil patch heard of a fella who could put half a pack of Beech Nut chewing tobaccy in each cheek..half a can of Copenhagen under his bottom lip..drink a beer and smoke a cigarette all at once. Now Paducah Patty could do this too..and she was a girl.
Sorry to have caused you "stress".  For those of you that have been inspired, if you (we) gain even one extra year of life, this was all worth the 'stress' of typing!
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« Reply #226 on: December 12, 2012, 10:00:41 PM »
I hear ya, Carl.  Thanks.

Get'er done and a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you.
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« Reply #227 on: December 13, 2012, 08:56:34 AM »
All 3 of us have quit - but - we smoke electronic cigarettes with 0 nicotine and 0 tar.

I forgot all about those stupid things!  Do they work?  I always wondered if the "habit" aspect still remains due to still going through the same motions as if you were smoking a real cigarette?  I understand the concept that it's better to go through those motions (if you feel you have to) without the carcinogens.  I guess I'm asking if it's a constant reminder of actually smoking a Cancer Stick and possibly prolonging the pain of just getting over it PERIOD?
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« Reply #228 on: December 13, 2012, 01:58:33 PM »
Well, denmarc, if all these good folks with their great suggestions and encouragement haven't yet convinced you, perhaps your first (hopefully not fatal) heart attack will.  Or, perhaps one morning you'll wake up with a terrible case of smoker's bronchitis, and you can't breath.  Every step you take or every effort you make will leave you gasping for just a tiny bit of fresh air.  I'd be very surprised if you don't have a bit of that going on right now.  AND it will only get worse, the longer you smoke.  Those lungs have a finite capacity, and when they are filled up with smoke, tar, nicotine, there's very little space left for fresh air.  Keep that thought in your head while still rebelliously fighting it.

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« Reply #229 on: December 13, 2012, 02:06:31 PM »
I hear you Daisy.  While I have a very active and physical job and not experiencing your examples, I do know what you mean.  Point well taken.  Thanks for the support.
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« Reply #230 on: December 13, 2012, 03:41:14 PM »
And your lungs can quickly repair themselves once they expell all that crap.
 
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« Reply #231 on: December 13, 2012, 03:52:33 PM »
denmarc,  When we feel like smoking a cigarette, the electronic ones fulfill the desire, but we have the desire much less and it is never for the lack of nicotine.  Sometimes we go days with smoking any at all and sometimes we will smoke them quite a bit.  Either way, no harm no foul, and it seems to be much better for all our healths.  Good luck with whatever you decide.
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« Reply #232 on: December 13, 2012, 08:05:00 PM »
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And your lungs can quickly repair themselves once they expell all that crap.

Negatory. When I visited a pulmonary specialist and took the air expulsion/volume and other tests, his comment was "the damage is already done".
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« Reply #233 on: December 13, 2012, 08:23:41 PM »
Negatory. When I visited a pulmonary specialist and took the air expulsion/volume and other tests, his comment was "the damage is already done".

Hmmm. Dad's pulmonologist and my regular doc said that your lungs can repair themselves.
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« Reply #234 on: December 13, 2012, 08:43:30 PM »
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They don't, so someone lied. Simple logic says that tar and other gunk clogs up the tubes, and there's no way to clean it out.
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« Reply #235 on: December 13, 2012, 08:46:12 PM »
I've done a lot of research and some of it says yes and some of it says no. I prefer to believe those who say your lungs can repair, maybe not completely but certainly a good deal. I'm a glass half-full kind of gal :)
 
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« Reply #236 on: December 13, 2012, 08:50:09 PM »
Glass half full doesn't cut it in this case. If you'd ever worked with tar you'd understand, and your glass would look quite differently.

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« Reply #237 on: December 13, 2012, 08:59:33 PM »
Well ... I had asthma, I had beginning stages of COPD, I was short of breath .... and 23 years after quitting I have none of those issues.  NONE!  You can't convince me lungs don't heal if you quit smoking.  I'm living proof and so is Tom.
 
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« Reply #238 on: December 13, 2012, 09:00:45 PM »
Glass half full doesn't cut it in this case. If you'd ever worked with tar you'd understand, and your glass would look quite differently.

Remember, those tobacco execs LIED under oath about this stuff.

Who said anything about the tobacco execs? I wouldn't believe them if they said the sky was blue.
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« Reply #239 on: December 13, 2012, 09:14:01 PM »
Another thought:  We're talking about CANCER and HEART DISEASE and God knows what else.
 
Have you had cancer yet?  I have.  It's not pretty!  It's not pleasant.  Not something I ever want to repeat.   I'm a 12 year survivor.  Had I not quit smoking in 1989 would I have conquered cancer in 2000?  Probably not. 
 
Is smoking a cigarette worth losing your hair, losing a breast, losing your prostate function, losing your ability to breathe, losing your heart's ability to sustain your life?   It's a CIGARETTE, for chrissakes.   It's a detrimental habit.  It made money for the tobacco industry at your expense!
 
Give it up!  Stop!  Quit!  It will be the best thing you every did for yourself ... and for your loved ones.
 
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