Northcentral US with the Stocks 2012

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Ken & Sheila said:
Nice Park, we've stayed there twice. Used to honor PA rate in the summer, but still a good park.

ken

I've become aware of more unusual, kind services they offer, like curbside trash pick-up daily, book exchange, games, puzzles, guest computer, TV, microwave & coffee maker available in guest lounge 24/7, a well-stocked general store, and free iron and ironing board available.  It's truly like we are guests!

We are going to Polebridge for breakfast tomorrow and taking it to Bowman Lake, providing the weather is in the 50s or better (I confess to being a wimp!).
 
Ned said:
Thanks, we just try to remember the things the docents tell us and what we read on the various signs.  Sometimes it takes a bit of looking on Google to refresh the memory :)

We don't do scrapbooking, it's enough work just trying to keep up the blog and our itinerary pages and still hang around here.

The blog is built using WordPress, so simple even an RVer can do it :D

I had heard you are a computer whiz!  I was teasing about scrapbooking.  I keep busy enough during the RVForum log; having a blog is more than I can handle yet, but if and when I do, I'll contact you re WordPress.
 
Dean & Linda Stock said:
having a blog is more than I can handle yet, but if and when I do, I'll contact you re WordPress.

I'll be here, just holler.  Or stop by and see us in Texas again and I'll help you set it up in person.
 
Ned said:
I'll be here, just holler.  Or stop by and see us in Texas again and I'll help you set it up in person.
We may take you up on that next spring!  We had such a good time in Texas, but we never do "repeats".  However, I feel a strong magnet pulling me back to Texas and Alaska, and Sherlock thinks your park is the best he's ever visited!  We're in a great park now, but no birds or leaves.  He hopped in Dean's seat when we first came, uttered a "HMMPH!" and turned his back on the window.  I laughed until tears fell.
 
August 25, 2012 Day 8 Coram, MT

We got up before 7:00 to see wild animals.  When we left at 8:30, it was 32?.  Hot coffee sounded good, so we stopped at the first caf? inside Glacier NP at Apgar.  Coffee and service were great; breakfast was passable, but not worth $26.  Lake McDonald was a disappointment?brown in color (I think it was a reflection from all the dead trees on the other side of the lake) and all the harlequin ducks have migrated. 

At Avalanche Creek, we did the Trail of the Cedars, which was very pretty.  The sound of the waterfall (Picture 1) rushing toward the creek and the cedars were beautiful.  The lack of sound from birds and squirrels was puzzling.  I was amazed at this toppled cedar with its shallow, perfectly flat roots (Picture 2); it was like a work of art.  I expected those tall cedars to have deep roots.

We were lucky to have our Handicapped Placard and that someone was just leaving because the parking lot at Logan?s Pass was jammed with a gridlock of cars going both ways in the lanes.  Note to Me:  NEVER AGAIN GO ON A WEEKEND?it?s a madhouse, and I could picture fights breaking out.  Outside the Visitors? Center and tiny display area was the second largest glacier we saw (Picture 3).  They say the glaciers will be completely gone in 2030 (just 18 years!) and those that are left are only 25% of the size they were in 1850.  At the visitors? center, we saw lots of red ground squirrels (Picture 4).  The squirrels, a female moose grazing at the side of the road, and enormous ravens were the only wildlife we saw, and we purposely stayed so we?d be driving around at dusk.  We?ll try again at dawn tomorrow.

We followed the Going-to-the-Sun Road to the biggest glacier we saw (Picture 5) and 2 beautiful turquoise blue lakes colored by the flowering glacial silt. (Pictures 6 & 7)  We made many stops to gawk and had turned this 2-3 hour drive into  6 hours, so we drove about 1 mile out of the park to the town of St. Mary for lunch.  We ate at Johnson?s, which had been highly recommended.  They have been there for about 50 years and bake all their own breads.  Their soup was delicious, and service was great.  It?s worth stopping just to read the interesting Johnson family history on the menu.  The original owner died about 4 years ago at age 96, and his kids (in their 50s +) run it now.  I wanted huckleberry pie to-go, and the waitress recommended that we stop at Two Sisters, which we did on our way to Many Glaciers (a separate part of the NP).  There was no parking lot fairy this time, and we drove around twice and gave up.  I would have liked to see the interior of this original magnificent waterfront hotel.

On our way back to the RV park, we stopped at the St. Mary?s VC in Glacier NP to see the film and exhibits.  I especially enjoyed the 3 flags?United States, Canada, and Blackfoot Nation?all flying at the same level because they all own part of the eastern part of the park?all working together for the benefit of the park and its visitors. (Picture 8)  Two other tribes, the Kootenai and Port____, also own part of western Glacier NP.

Staying at North American RV Park--$77.04/2 nights with 10% discount for registering using internet or Good Sam 
 

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Really enjoying your trip writeup.  It seems like I'm living through everyone on the forum.  :)

Robin
 
Hi Linda,
    I am so looking forward to your upcoming trip postings. Please let me know if you receive this! Thanks. Happy Trails!
                                                                          Bonnie
 
August 27, 2012 Day 10 Billings, MT

We had a great start to our day with ? of the cinnamon roll that we bought at the Polebridge Bakery.  It was wonderful! (Just like Ken told us it would be.) 

We drove about 10 miles from Great Falls Walmart to the Benton Lake National Wildlife Refuge.  As we approached the Visitors? Center, I saw my first sharp-tailed grouse (the ranger told me what it was).  One grouse chased another into the bushes.  The ranger had a place where he parks his fire truck, just the right size for the motorhome.  We detached the Jeep and made the wildlife drive.

The lake was really low, and most of the birds were small sparrows and brown ducks.  (Picture 1) We had been here before in the month of May, and there was a lot more activity.  We are between the summer season (many birds have already left) and the migrants from the North haven?t arrived.  We decided to just drive on through, and I had taken off my binoculars when a huge hawk flew low right across our windshield.  He took my breath away.  I have no idea what kind he was because I was so startled.  In the second ?lake? there were probably a hundred Canadian geese (Picture 2). 

We chose not to take the interstate and stick to US highways.  There should be no shortage of wheat this year.  There were rolls of wheat everywhere.

Staying at Billings WalMart

 

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Roadhappy said:
Really enjoying your trip writeup.  It seems like I'm living through everyone on the forum.  :)

Robin

Thanks so much.  I'm looking forward to especially great times in Minnesota & Michigan.  If you've been in any of these states, be sure to give me tips.
 
Bonnie Lawrie said:
Hi Linda,
    I am so looking forward to your upcoming trip postings. Please let me know if you receive this! Thanks. Happy Trails!
                                                                          Bonnie

Bonnie, I am so pleased you joined.  Yes, all is good!
 
August 28 & 29, 2012 Day 11 Medora, ND

Tuesday--we traveled and saw lots of cows and wheat.  When we arrived at the RV campground, the dirt was blowing from the dirt roads within the campground, we were escorted to a back-in (totally my fault--I forgot to request a pull-through), and we had no trees for shade in weather that was over 100?.  However, we have great full hook-ups, the AC keeps us comfortable, have WIFI that works well, and Cable TV.  We passed by the FDR National Park, and we weren?t impressed.  I had planned on staying extra days, but I decided instead to book into Bismarck for the 30th through Labor Day so I could do my cleaning that I wanted to do.  We will kick up aw lot of dust when leaving, which would sabotage my hard work.

Wednesday?You can?t judge a book by its cover!  Theodore Roosevelt National Park is great!  We saw a 17-minute introductory film at the Visitors? Center which raised questions, so we talked with the ranger who was full of answers and interesting information.  I have always admired Roosevelt, but I now find him so intriguing and inspiring that I bought a 500-page biography, which I?ll probably finish in the next week or so.

History Buffs: Roosevelt came here when his wife, Alice, and mother died in his house in New York ON THE SAME DAY.  His wife died giving birth to his daughter who was also named Alice.  He refused to say the name Alice ever again, and he called his daughter Baby Lee.  She was taken in by his sister, and Roosevelt took off for his Elkhorn Ranch in North Dakota.  He did not return until his soul had healed 2 years later.  He hated being called ?Teddy? because Alice called him that, and he didn?t want to hear it from anyone?s lips but hers.  He remarried and had two more children.  He said that he would never have been president if he hadn?t come to ND.  He also said the happiest years of his life were those he spent here.

Current Events Buffs:  I planned to see several sites and refuges in the Berthold area, not knowing of the discovery of the Bakken formation, which has made North Dakota the second biggest oil-producer in the U.S.  Located two miles below the surface, it was not extractable until a highly controversial technique, ?fracking? or hydraulic fracturing, allowed oil companies to quadruple their daily oil production.  This has brought tens of thousands of new jobs, and many of the workers are staying in RV campgrounds.  There are those who drink and are rowdy, and I read horrible RV park reviews, so we skipped that loop on our trip.

(excerpt from Visitor Guide)  ?All 3 ND national parks are having serious issues due to the oil boom.  New wells can be seen from inside park boundaries.  Each new well means another drill rig, well pad, pumpjack, debris pit, flare pit, storage tanks, and access roads on the landscape.  Each new well requires 2000 ?trucking events? to complete its setup and begin pumping oil.  Noise and dust from heavy truck traffic and pumping equipment is constant.  Numerous flares can be seen in the formerly dark night sky as excess natural gas is burned off.  Socioeconomic impacts are altering local communities.?  I was told by the KOA park manager in Bismarck that he won?t let them stay there.  He also told me they are drilling like crazy, then capping them because they don?t have the transport capacity yet.  They only have to pump a certain minimal amount of oil every 2 years while they are developing their support system.

We embarked on the 36-mile drive, but it was so hot (over 90?) that I thought all the animals would be hidden from view.  However, we?d get to see the geological features. Sure enough, we came around the first curve and saw all these whitish hills among the grass.  Then I saw a prairie dog on top of one of those hills, stretching his front paws to the sky, and emitting a shrill cry.  The prairie dog on the next hill responded in kind.  Every time we stopped, those nearest our car did this same warning. Today we saw THOUSANDS of prairie dogs, and Dean took lots of pictures.  But they only do their warning once, and you can?t stop and get a camera on them before it?s all over. (Picture 1)  There were several prairie dog towns on the tour, and we were always treated to a different show.  They dug in the dirt causing mini-dust clouds; they jumped, bounded, and chased each other.  Some were quite chubby, well prepared for the coming winter.  (Pictures 2 & 3)

Not even a mile further on, we saw HUNDREDS of bison.  One stood right next to our car saying, ?Please don?t disturb my sleep.? (Picture 4)  Another came right up and greeted us (Picture 5).  Throughout our drive we saw groups of 30-40, and Dean couldn?t avoid all the buffalo pies on the roadway.

We saw pretty badlands, second only to those in South Dakota. (Picture 6)  Some had scoria, which is formed when veins of lignite (coal) in the rock formation catches fire and bakes the surrounding sand and clay.  Lignite doesn?t emit enough heat to be useful to people, but once ignited, it is hard to put out.  One of the fires lasted from 1951 to 1977.  (Picture 7)  Over the years, erosion removes the softer earth on top and leaves the bluffs this bright red color.

As we were just admiring the small hoodoos and cannonball concretions, a white-tailed deer bounded across our path.  I?m glad we were driving slowly.

We had such a great day that we planned to go back at dusk and look for elk, bighorn sheep, and mountain goats.  We were told by the ranger to go around 7:30 for best light for pictures.  Unfortunately, it was too dark, so we?ll get up early tomorrow and try to catch them at dawn.  I wish we had at least one more day here. 

Red Trail Campground ($30) is actually fine.  After boondocking, I was into ?clean?, and seeing the dust popped my bubble.  I?d stay here again.  It has everything, including nice people and fun things like karaoke
 

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My parents really liked Roosevelt NP, said it reminded them of "Death Valleywith grass."

Unfortunately, most NPS sites are having trouble with industry and towns encroaching.
 
Linda, when I read in the first paragraph that you weren't going to go through the T.R.N.P. I said on no, they're going to miss a really neat place.  I'm so glad you changed your mind.  I love the place!  It's such an interesting contrast to the South Dakota badlands - one with grass and one without grass.  We even saw a herd of wild horses our last time through there.  Anyway, I'm glad you went.

ArdraF
 
ArdraF said:
Linda, when I read in the first paragraph that you weren't going to go through the T.R.N.P. I said on no, they're going to miss a really neat place.  I'm so glad you changed your mind.  I love the place!  It's such an interesting contrast to the South Dakota badlands - one with grass and one without grass.  We even saw a herd of wild horses our last time through there.  Anyway, I'm glad you went.

ArdraF

Ardra, we were always going to see it, but I just had really low expectations, and I was VERY pleasantly surprised.  I would have loved to see the wild horses.  I thought of you when I bought my Roosevelt book because you are such a history buff.  Remind me when I see you next, and I'll give it to you.  i am hoping to see RVForum people in January (no, not in Quartzite).
 
Me?  A history buff?  Goodness, dear Miss Taylor, my seventh grade teacher and Miss McCormick, my h.s. history teacher, wouldn't agree at all!  ::) It turns out I just hated to memorize dates and such, but now that I'm all grown up I do enjoy learning about such things.  Anyway, I'll look forward to the book.  And I'm so glad you were so pleasantly surprised!

ArdraF
 
Hello from Minnesota!  I'm not sure your route thru MN, WI and the UP of MI, but would love to help you out with travel advice.  Please drop a message to your travel route.

Paul
 
MN Cake Eater said:
Hello from Minnesota!  I'm not sure your route thru MN, WI and the UP of MI, but would love to help you out with travel advice.  Please drop a message to your travel route.

Paul

You wrote at the perfect time, Paul.  Just tonight, Dean and I just spent an hour or two revising our route through Minnesota, based on new info.  For now, it is Detroit Lakes (stay there) to Park Rapids to Lake Itasca SP (stay there), on US 2 to Duluth (stay), then I-35 to Minneapolis/St. Paul. 

I have conflicting info on Lake Itasca SP and Avay Up Nort.  Friends who live in Park Rapids say that the SP can't handle our 38' rig, but the SP says "no problem"--that they actually have much larger rigs come in.  I'd like to stay there because it's a SP and has 50-amps (we are an all-electric coach, no propane at all, and the beast loves those kilowatts for cooking, washing, etc.)  My friend says Avay up Nort is great, has 50-amps, big-rig parking, FHU, but its website and RVparkreviews.com says it isn't so.  I think what we have decided is to go into the SP and see for ourselves, being careful to not get into a pickle.  Then, if that doesn't work, we could go over to Avay Up Nort.

Then on to Madison, Milwaukee, up US 41 to Green Bay, checking on leaf color in MI before deciding on whether to do the Door Peninsula, over US 51 up to Ironwood, east on SR 28 across the Mackinac Bridge, head S on I-75 to Flint, Lansing, Ann Arbor, and Detroit, then look at the date because we MUST be home in Southern California for Thanksgiving--possibly go into Cleveland, Columbus, Indianapolis.  However, our focus is on the Big Three--Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan.  Anything beyond that is gravy.

We would appreciate any knowledge you have on this, especially any guesses on when the leaves will be at their peak on the UP and any info on RV parks in the UP.  They sound kind of marginal to poor, but we can happily boondock on any level site for a few days.





 
Linda,


There are two parks in the St Paul/Minneapolis area that we have stayed at, our favorite is in Apple Valley near the MN  zoo and the other is Ham Lake Campground on Constance St? in Ham Lake.  Both have room for 38' coach and 50amp.  Apple Valley has FHU at all sites in the one area for big rigs.  Be sure to check out the state capitol in St Paul and the MN zoo.  There are other things but I am usually there to visit family.


In Madison I am not sure of a campground because the only time that we stayed there was many years ago and it was a county park.  Be sure to see the capitol there because it is located on an ismas? between two lakes.  In Milwaukee I wish I were there because would take you around.  Since we aren't be sure to see the Milwaukee Art Museum and the Discovery World on the lakefront.  The zoo is also very good.  We have stayed at the fairgrounds which is convenient to most everything and has FHU and no problem with a 38'.  However is an asphalt park with no shade but it should be cooling off when you get there.  When we are there every summer we have a reserved site at Oak Creek Estates on College Ave and 23rd St.  It is a mobilhome park with sites on either side of the park. The east side of the park has more shade but the west side is nicer and easier to park.  Right now they are doing some construction on the east side.  Both parks are right off I-94, fairground park is on the way into downtown and Oak Creek is on the south side on the way to Chicago.


In the Duluth area we stayed at Northland RV Park in July and it is a very nice park with FHU and 50amp.  Their laundry room isn't the best but everything was working when we were there.


In upper Michigan be sure to go to Pictured Rocks National Seashore and do the boat trip if they are running.  If it is to windy and rough they won't take you out.  Also, Whitefish Point to the Shipwreck Museum and the Bird Observatory.  If it is a beautiful day when you get to St Ignace take the ferry out to Mackinac Island it is worth the time.  The fort and the Grand Hotel are very interesting.  As for lower MI Barb Weimart probably has more info.


Give me a call or email me for the phone # if don't have it if you would like more info on anything in MN and WI.  The leaf color should be good in the northern areas and possibly Door County.  You can probably do Door County in a day or at most two.  Green Bay Packer Hall of Fame is a possibility if you are interested in football.



 
Hello Stocks, Welcome to MN at the most beautiful time of year! 

It sounds like you have some plans already made, so I'll try to fill in the gaps.  I'm familiar with the Park Rapids area, but don't know much about the state parks.  The state parks we've been to with 50 amp service have been big rig friendly.  (We travel in a 40 ft. DP.)

I'll start in Duluth.  Beautiful area!  If you are looking for a CG, you might want to consider running up the shore to Two Harbors.  City owned campground with newer big rig area.  It sits right in town and is on Lake Superior.  Another option is the KOA that's probably equal distance south of town.  Camping in the Woods. 

Hinckley, about half way to Mpls. on I35 has a casino with a very nice campground too.

Lorna had two good CG's in Mpls.  Dakota County parks has a wonderful CG in Apple Valley.  About 1 mile from the MN Zoo and 10-15 from the Mall of America (can't miss this!).  You'll feel like you're camping in the woods and only be 5 minutes from Target, grocery stores and other shopping.

Ham Lake CG in Ham Lake, MN is another good choice as is Bunker Hills Regional Park (Anoka County Parks) in Coon Rapids, MN.  Only $25 per night.  Both these CG's are on the northside of the Twin Cities.  Apple Valley is on the southside.

After leaving Mpls, consider driving down US Hwy 61 towards LaCrosse, WI.  A very nice CG in Wabasha, MN (Wabasha Motel & RV Park), my sister and niece work there and you can visit the National Eagle Center.  Also don't miss LARK Toys in Kellogg, MN.  It's a toy shop and museum and is rated as 1 of the top 10 independent toy stores in the world.

A good area to stop in WI is the Wisconsin Dells area.  Lots of campgrounds!  By the time you get there all the kids will be back in school and the place should be much quieter.  A couple fun things to checkout in this area is the Circus World Museum in Baraboo and the train museum in North Freedom, WI.

Skipping ahead....Green Bay Packers museum is attached to Lambeau Field (easy parking) is interesting.  Hard to believe such a small city is home to a NFL team.  The National Railroad Museum is located in GB as well.

Off to MI, the Houghton/Hancock area is wonderful.  We've stayed at the city CG in Houghton.  It's beautiful!  Marquette is another scenic area.  We also spent time this summer in the Mackinac City area.  Make sure to take the ferry out to Mackinac Island.  It's a wonderful way to spend a day.  I can't remember the name of our CG in Mackinac City (it was southeast of town), but it sat on the lake and had a free shuttle to the ferry docks.

After leaving Mackinac City head down towards Petosky.  Two wonderful CG's, KOA and Hearthside Grove.  Both owned by the same family.  Hearthside is where we stayed in July.  Very upscale and the nicest park we've ever stayed.  The KOA is a former KOA of the Year award winner.  Make sure to continue to Charlevois, MI.  Another beautiful town, but the thing to check out is "Castle Farms".  (Easy RV parking) Take the self guided tour.  This place is incredible!

Here's my fall color report for UP of MI and northern WI.....you should see colors in the UP during mid-Sept.. You might have to wait until mid until late Sept for northern WI.  Southern MN usually doesn't get very good colors until October.

I hope this info helps you out.  Let me know of any other questions.

Paul 
 





     
 
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