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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2015, 09:15:53 PM »
There are both high and low pressure LP hoses. If the extension is after the regulator, then the gas pressure is very low and no problem. If you run a hose from tank to a remote regulator, you need either gas pipe or high pressure hose because the line is basically operating at tank pressure. I've used low pressure extensions as long as 20 ft.

If you are talking about a fixed LP tank in a motorhome (as opposed to DOT portable LP bottles), you cannot connect anything to the "RV tank fill valve" (fill port). There is a separate outlet port of an fixed (ASME) LP tank to make connections. Normally that outlet is piped to a regulator and any further connections are made after the regulator.

Sorry I could not give a simple answer, but I did not want to risk a simple yes or no when the question is somewhat vague.
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2016, 08:30:57 PM »
The fill valve on the large tanks should only let the gas go one direction. Now I know there's only one valve on the 25, 30, 100# tanks, but the larger ones, strapped to the frame(s) of MHs, atleast all the ones I've seen, basically have a check valve in the fill "hole".
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2016, 01:40:18 PM »
I used to work at a store here in Canada that did propane cylinder exchanges, and we could not accept a cylinder that was 10 years or older, unless it was re certified.

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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2016, 09:54:56 PM »
There are both high and low pressure LP hoses. If the extension is after the regulator, then the gas pressure is very low and no problem. If you run a hose from tank to a remote regulator, you need either gas pipe or high pressure hose because the line is basically operating at tank pressure. I've used low pressure extensions as long as 20 ft.

If you are talking about a fixed LP tank in a motorhome (as opposed to DOT portable LP bottles), you cannot connect anything to the "RV tank fill valve" (fill port). There is a separate outlet port of an fixed (ASME) LP tank to make connections. Normally that outlet is piped to a regulator and any further connections are made after the regulator.

Sorry I could not give a simple answer, but I did not want to risk a simple yes or no when the question is somewhat vague.

Our old RV had an exterior propane valve for hooking up a gas grill.  We never used it as we have a Baby Webber charcoal BBQ.  We were confused as to what you can actually hook up to the connection which I understand is regulated.  Some grills have built in regulators and some don't?  Hooking up an already regulated grill would result in too low of pressure to operate?

Our new RV (MH) also has the outdoor port.  We intend to still use the Webber BBQ, but wondering if a propane camp stove that operates off a disposable cylinder can be connected to it with a quick connect hose, or does the camp stove have its own regulator?  It is confusing.

Here is the stove we have: http://www.sears.com/texsport-propane-stove-super-high-output/p-00644413000P?sid=IDx01192011x000001&gclid=CjwKEAjwsYW6BRCTzvu5y8DPhi0SJABnGLlHIkSR0S0MNBp5HgtPNH8_tiqpLTyLIE8ajCXecDZLsxoCgpHw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2017, 03:41:49 PM »
Thank you for the article! I am new at the RV life and I have been very uncomfortable at using the gas but this makes me feel a little better.

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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2017, 07:02:32 PM »
Anyone know why my frig works fine on 110/generator but not on propane?(it gets. 'Behind' in hot weather....had cleaned 3 separate times/places

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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2017, 08:21:50 AM »
Mine is the other way around... Suspects include the burner orifice (Clogged) burner adjustment (Clean blue flame, no red or yellow please, no smoke) Clogged flu, bird's nest upper end, mud daubbers, et-al.   Beyond that all i can suggest is the addition of fans both outside and in.. Fans inside tend to reduce ice build up on the fins and circulate cold better

Fans outside help with the cooling.. I have 2 of each.   All are standard computer type fans (like the power supply fan on your desktop)
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2017, 06:37:34 PM »
OK thnx..... but shouldn t cleaning have uncovered this? I paid them about $70 ....3 times....shouldn t it have been covered?   

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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2017, 02:43:28 AM »
OK thnx..... but shouldn t cleaning have uncovered this? I paid them about $70 ....3 times....shouldn t it have been covered?

It depends. You mentioned that the fridge lacks in cooling during hot weather. How hot are we talking? Descriptions of temperature can be described in a variety of relative terms. That all depends on where you are and what you're accustom to.

My suggestion...
Put a fridge thermometer inside for a few days on 110v/genny and record the temps. under normal use. Then switch over to LP and do the same. That should give you a good average interior temp using both power sources.
Post your findings.

Lets find out just what the temp difference is between the two and go from there.
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2017, 10:44:00 AM »
Items....I keep a thermometer in fridge now and because I LIVE in my RV, I m able to monitor constantly: here s some notes: I live in Southern cal, during the winter, it's fine but when the temp climbs to 80 ish is when I watch food; when it gets to 90+, I ve been moving a couple items to the freezer(the temp climbs to 70 in-- i m careful to keep all meat frozen)..... I did check while plugged in (rare) and the temp went up 20 degrees in 3 hours....... So pretty sure I m on track there. I ordered an orifice from Dometic now, will have that replaced next..... What do you think will come of that?

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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2017, 11:38:20 AM »
We tow a 2004 Alumascape TT (Holiday Rambler).  We have NEVER traveled with the refrigerator running.  In fact, we turn off the propane at the tanks.  We've been on the road for 12+ hours in hot weather and items in the freezer are still frozen and still cold in the fridge (and I'm a stickler for a cold beer after a long drive ;).  This might seem like overkill but it eliminates having to turn off the propane during fueling and gives us peace of mind on the road.


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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2020, 01:17:48 PM »
I came across a really excellent article on propane basics as they apply to RVs and written in layman's terms.   It covers all the practical aspects of propane valves, differences in fixed ASME tanks vs DOT portable cylinders, fire safety, and such without a lot of technobabble. Written by Derek Gore, aka RV Roadie, I highly recommend it to all RVers.

http://home.earthlink.net/~derekgore/rvroadiervfulltimingwhatisitreallylike/id44.html

Hello Gary. This link is no longer working. Would you happen to have a copy of the information? I just joined the forum after buying a 1990s slide in Sunlite Skyhawk for my small pickup. The Dometic RM2190 fridge works on electric but both the furnace pilot and the fridge pilot light and do not stay lit, which makes me wonder if the propane line has a leak. I'd like to learn more about troubleshooting propane appliances and came across your post. Thanks!
P.S. Am I going to have to ID the funny letters and take an intelligence test every time I post on this forum? I'm up for the IQ/citizens test (though it gets tedious), but I have trouble with the funny letters every time.

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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2020, 02:13:43 PM »
Welcome to the forum. After 4 or 5 posts, the questions go away.
I just tried the link and it did not work for me either. Either Gary or our forum moderator Tom may be able to fix it.
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2020, 02:43:13 PM »
P.S. Am I going to have to ID the funny letters and take an intelligence test every time I post on this forum? I'm up for the IQ/citizens test (though it gets tedious), but I have trouble with the funny letters every time.
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2020, 04:50:26 PM »
Sorry - Derek Gore's RV Roadie website seems to be gone and I don't have a copy (it was an entire website, not just a page or two).  He was active on IRV2.com up til February, so I will try to contact him there and learn what happened and if there is a another way to view the info.
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2020, 05:25:39 PM »
The latest listing I found for Derek Gore's site on the WayBack Machine was Oct 15, 2018. The info should still be accurate though...

https://web.archive.org/web/20181015210000/http://home.earthlink.net/~derekgore/rvroadiervfulltimingwhatisitreallylike/id44.html
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« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2020, 05:36:37 PM »
Thanks Dutch. I forgot all about that archive.
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #47 on: July 14, 2020, 08:14:50 AM »
I heard from Derek Gore last night and he is in the process of moving his RVRoadie.com site to a new server.   No definite date for it to go live again - anywhere from a week to a month or so.  I'm hoping he will remember to notify me when it happens so I can update the link in this topic.
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2020, 08:19:00 AM »
Glad to see that, Gary! The site has been useful RV'ing resource...
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Re: Propane 101 - an excellent article for laymen & Rvers
« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2020, 02:51:27 PM »
I heard from Derek Gore last night and he is in the process of moving his RVRoadie.com site to a new server.   No definite date for it to go live again - anywhere from a week to a month or so.  I'm hoping he will remember to notify me when it happens so I can update the link in this topic.

In the meantime, I modified the link in the original post to use the Wayback Machine archive copy NY Dutch found.  We can change it to the new site when Derek gets it up and running.