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What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« on: December 02, 2012, 08:58:43 PM »
Not sure if this is a Winnebago issue, although I want to put it in a Win Adventurer 37G.

 The previous owner put in a 27 inch flat screen in the front over the dog house.  It looks like they supported it with plywood.  I would like to put a larger screen TV in there for football.  They have 65" TVs now that weigh less than 100 lbs. 

1) What would you think is the largest/heaviest I could go? 

2) Where would you mount it?

Although it would be nice in the same place the other flat screen is, it doesn't have to be there.  And, I do worry about something falling while I'm driving.  I've already had things fall in transit that I forgot to secure before hitting the road.  Just little things, but it made me stop and look.  If a 65" TV falls on my head, I'll probably be stopping, but my looking days may well be over.
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 09:26:29 PM »
I have a 46 inch in my living room. All modern digital tvs come with VESA mounting holes in the back of the set. If you bolt the TV solidly to the VESA holes it will not come down.

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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 09:44:11 PM »
Here are some better pictures of the living room.  I'd like to put it over that window over the easy chair behind the passenger seat, as I usually watch TV from the couch or the dinette, as I use my computer there.  But that window is a problem. 

I thought about putting it on the back wall where the mirror is, but the slide covers that up when it's in, so I think the slide would hit it.

Any suggestions where to put it?   I've seen 46" flat screens that are only 27" high and only 38 pounds.  Do you think it would be safe where the small flat screen is?
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 10:05:57 PM »
You might consider optimum viewing distances. Here is some interesting information on the subject http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance.

We have a 42' HDTV in the rear of the living room and have to watch it from the driver/passenger seats. You can be too close. I can see the stitches holding the players names on their jerseys from anywhere in the coach.

To Tom's point, using a properly secured VESA mount insures that flatscreens will go nowhere. I have four (factory installed, not my idea) and have not lost one yet.
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 10:39:12 PM »
You might consider optimum viewing distances. Here is some interesting information on the subject http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance.

We have a 42' HDTV in the rear of the living room and have to watch it from the driver/passenger seats. You can be too close. I can see the stitches holding the players names on their jerseys from anywhere in the coach.

To Tom's point, using a properly secured VESA mount insures that flatscreens will go nowhere. I have four (factory installed, not my idea) and have not lost one yet.

I, personally, have thought that those "optimum viewing" distances are too conservative. Yes, you can be to close, but only when your entire periphery is the TV. I think in an RV, you'll run out of mounting space before you are too close.


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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2012, 01:07:52 AM »
Here is what I consider to be the best option.  This pic is of the 42" buffet TV that is in my Journey.  If you could find a place for this set up, it works really cool.  It came as a stock feature from Winnie. 
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2012, 09:30:26 AM »
Here is what I consider to be the best option.  This pic is of the 42" buffet TV that is in my Journey.  If you could find a place for this set up, it works really cool.  It came as a stock feature from Winnie.

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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2012, 09:39:19 AM »
When I was shopping for a new TV last year my main question was what was the largest TV that I could watch inside a motorhome (left to right, not front to back). I read several articles on optimum viewing distances and most concluded that 1.5 was the proper minimum distance. In other words I have an 8 foot wide coach. The TV is suspended one foot from the wall. My head rests on my chair about one foot from the opposite wall. That leaves me 6 feet or 72 inches between my eyeballs and the screen. For a 46 inch TV that means a minimum distance of 69 inches (46 + 23). So I bought a 46 inch TV after going to Walmart and standing exactly six feet from the TVs on display and making sure my calculations were correct.

However there is a small problem with viewing at that distance. If I am viewing a relatively new Blu ray the picture usually looks about as good as a TV can look. However if I watch an older movie then the grain becomes apparent and some times it is even distracting.
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2012, 10:43:34 AM »
Think about a projector and a roll down screen. You can then adjust the size via the lens to fit whatever size screen fits your rig. Projectors nowdays are tiny. You will not get a perfect picture, but then my eyes aren't perfect either. Check 'em out at the store and see if that might be an option.

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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 11:09:52 AM »
Older motor homes were designed to support CRT televisions and a decent size one often exceeded 100 pounds so weight is not much of an issue.. I just replaced one of my televisions and the new LCD/LED job (19" is kind of a "Featherweight" compared to the older LCD it repalced,, and that was a feather weight compared to the CRT it replaced.

(Got all the features I wanted too, AV in VGA in and RF in)  Plus one I did not know about USB port, plug in a USB memory stick and it will pause programming) and an HDMI (which I expected and actually DO have a use for thanks to this laptop)

As to "how big" that is a matter for your tape measure.. In my case the 19" size (Smaller than the NTSC model it replaced) was choisen by the tape measure, it fits the hole in the wall exactly in one dimension and I can fill in the other..
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2012, 02:48:11 PM »
That TV descends into the desk? Those Winnie guys know how to pimp it out...
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Yes, there is a switch on the wall that raises and lowers the TV as needed.  There is also one by the recliners on the other side of the rig if I am just too lazy to stand up and walk over to it!  They put it in a buffet, bit I am sure that the same mechanism could be adapted to a much thinner cabinet. 
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2012, 11:02:28 PM »
If you want a TV lift, try here, Firgelli Automation.
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2012, 04:47:17 PM »
We have a 47" LG in our 88 and it mounts to the ceiling just above the doghouse.  When we drive it swings up to the ceiling (manually) and fastens to the ceiling.  Works well for us.
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2012, 05:29:46 PM »
Problem with the buffet TV is that you can't watch it sitting at the dinette, can you?
 
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2012, 05:57:25 PM »
As I've thought about this, I was thinking of something like the buffet, stored behind the passenger seat.  Then I could raise it, which would cover the window, and it could be watched both from the couch or dinette.  It addition, as it would be lowered when in travel mode, I'd be secure about it staying put.  Just an idea at this time.  All the suggestions are appreciated.
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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2012, 10:08:30 PM »
Look at the site I  suggested as they had some examples along the lines you are suggesting.  For me to do it, I would have to give up my computer work station.

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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2012, 10:16:42 PM »
Look at the site I  suggested as they had some examples along the lines you are suggesting.  For me to do it, I would have to give up my computer work station.

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Great link thanks.  Yes, I'll have to give up my computer desk there, but I use the dinette for the computer instead.  I have a chair there as well that will be coming out.

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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2012, 11:13:30 PM »
Great link thanks.  Yes, I'll have to give up my computer desk there, but I use the dinette for the computer instead.  I have a chair there as well that will be coming out.

SWMBO says NO computer stuff on the dinette or in the Kitchen so NO TV across from the couch!   :)
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2012, 01:30:36 AM »
Problem with the buffet TV is that you can't watch it sitting at the dinette, can you?
 
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Actually you can, but you wouldn't want to do it long term.  Usually if we want to watch something while we eat, we usually sit in the recliners across from the TV, or use the 32" mounted over the windshield.  Normally we watch the buffet TV from alternate locations around the RV, and not at the dining table. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2012, 12:20:43 PM »
Actually you can, but you wouldn't want to do it long term.  Usually if we want to watch something while we eat, we usually sit in the recliners across from the TV, or use the 32" mounted over the windshield.  Normally we watch the buffet TV from alternate locations around the RV, and not at the dining table.

Well, that makes sense. Maybe we'll have to take another look at that floorplan.
 
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2012, 12:37:48 PM »
I think a 46" is plenty for any MH, but that is my opinion.  I would strongly suggest an LED LCD TV. Enjoy.
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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2012, 01:56:30 PM »
1) What would you think is the largest/heaviest I could go? 

2) Where would you mount it?
My '96 Adventurer has the same floorplan as yours. Earlier this past spring, and with help, I removed the old TV and first bought a smaller 19" LED HDTV while trying to decide what to do with the two questions you have asked. It was small enough to just set on the doghouse cover while viewing and on the couch while underway.

My general plan was to replace the molding around the old TV cavity with wood and a cabinet door - easy to find and the right size from several websites. The door would swing up to open. I would then secure the TV to that door. That way I could swing it up to open the cabinet doors on either side of the TV cavity. The rest of the time it would be down to watch or to travel. The angle of the TV would naturally be the same as it was with the old TV. That all seemed a better idea than to completely rip out everything up there and start over. A job I could not do myself or afford to have someone else do for me.

Next came the size issue. I am a solo RVer and watch from my recliner beside the side door. A huge RV was just not that important to me so I decided 32" was bigger than I had with the older TV - and much wider - and would work well for me. A 32" was also the size that allowed either 720 or 1080 res - so was able to save some bucks and purchased a Philips 32" LED 720 at Sam's for less than $250.

Since then I have simply replaced the 19" with the 32" on the doghouse and on the couch while underway. The 19" is now beside my bed in the bedroom. The smaller old TV in the bedroom is in the cabinet that is so far from my head position it's not much in viewing pleasure. I may do the same thing that I had planned up front in that I would attach the 19" to the upward swinging cabinet door. But for now I like it where it is. I just lay it on the bed while underway.

Am still operating the same way up front and have almost decided to just leave things as they are - other than placing an upward swinging cabinet door over the old TV cavity. One problem I have always had with the TV up there is the viewing angle from my recliner - probably 40 degrees or so. It would lessen from the couch or my dinette (which is now my office), but having the TV level with my line of sight has now spoiled me over up so far for viewing.

Anyway, you "could" place a larger than 32" TV up there attached to an up swinging cabinet door that would allow you to also access the two cabinets on either side. Another thought would be to swing it up and latch it to the ceiling while underway if the TV extended down too far.
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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2012, 04:30:26 PM »
If I could convince the DW to ride on the sofa or at the dinette, I'd use the swivel mount of the passenger seat post to mount a 60 incher for football games.... ;) ;D. Guess I'll just stick with my 26".
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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2012, 04:38:06 PM »
Lot's of great ideas.  Now to decide and then implement them for maximum game enjoyment.

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Re: What the Largest TV I can safely put in the MH?
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2012, 11:15:49 AM »
Wendy,
The big TV is great but it is the least of the advantages to the 34y floor plan! With a full body slide opposite two big slides, it's really roomy without that "I've got an extra couch for that extra eight feet, but ,,," feeling. We've found it to be the perfect floor plan for a couple that doesn't entertain much (the table does extend to seat four if desired).
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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2012, 12:14:09 PM »
Wendy,
The big TV is great but it is the least of the advantages to the 34y floor plan! With a full body slide opposite two big slides, it's really roomy without that "I've got an extra couch for that extra eight feet, but ,,," feeling. We've found it to be the perfect floor plan for a couple that doesn't entertain much (the table does extend to seat four if desired).
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I only have one couch, it and the dinette are on the same living room slide.  Across from the couch, in front of the entry door is a swivel rocker and a computer desk.  That is now where I'm thinking of putting the TV and removing the couch, as it doesn't recline, and putting two recliners there.

But that couch is also a bed, as well as the dinette.  I really prefer recliners to a couch, and the dinette makes a much larger bed than in some of my friends trailers.  In their trailers the dinette only makes a bed for the vertically challenged, so adults can sleep on the dinette comfortably if needed.  This Christmas I'm going to FL, and will have people stay with me in the MH, as well as others that will stay at my parents house.  But this is a rare time that I need extra sleeping capacity. 

My other thought is that if I took out the couch and replaced it with recliners, I could in times like this, use inflatable mattresses.  This would not decrease my sleeping capacity, while still being able to have my big screen TV.  And in that spot by the door, I'm coming to the conclusion from all the advice posted here, that a 60 inch TV will be about the best size.  And the link someone posted about mounts, if I build a cabinet for it, there's a mount I can bolt to the ground that will lift the TV up, then I can rotate it to watch it while I work in the dinette area. 

That little bitty TV up front may have been good for me years ago, but now I have to use glasses to magnify letters when I read, but they don't do a thing for the TV, and that makes it hard to follow a football game. ;)
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