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> It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« on: January 30, 2013, 08:04:03 AM »
Instead of adding to my S3 or iPhone 5? thread, I thought I'd start a new one about the N4. A few weeks ago the N4 wasn't on my short list (it wasn't even on the radar!), so this is an interesting evolution.

Once I decided to pull the trigger on buying an N4, Google was sold out   ::) so I've been checking their website literally every day for the product and ta-da, today Google is accepting orders for shipment in one to two weeks.

So I have the 16Gb model and the case bumper on order.  Yea!

Here's a link if you want buy one - act quickly.  If you're on the fence, here's one of many reviews out there.
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Re: Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2013, 08:16:55 AM »
Lucky you!  I think you'll love the Nexus 4, I am quite happy with my Nexus 7 tablet and my next phone will probably be a Nexus.
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Re: Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2013, 08:55:37 AM »
Thanks Ned.  I think next device on the list to replace is my Acer Icona A500 tablet - Acer has some hardware issues (research indicated I had to turn off the auto-rotate feature to keep it from freezing up) and I'm been patently disappointed with it for months.

I might make it into an end table, I'll just need to add some legs  ;D.
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Re: Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2013, 09:15:39 AM »
Sounds wonderful... especially no bloatware and SIM compatible!

Haf to wait tho, no 4G... the tsunami of VOIP, app based SMS & the rate shakeout could rattle the cell communication world to the core... who knows tho?
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2013, 09:19:56 AM »
That's one of the big advantages of the Nexus devices, pure Android.  No crapware from the carriers.  I have to wait for a Verizon LTE device before I'll buy one, however.  For now, my Bionic is working just fine.  It's how we're getting online today using FoxFi and our Surf Mini.
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Re: Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2013, 09:21:45 AM »
Not having 4G capability isn't a big deal for me.  Interestingly the phone has a 4G chip inside that works on Canada's 1700 Mhz 4G system. 

The two attributes (or lack thereof) that I don't like are a non-removable battery and no external storage, but obviously not a deal-breaker.  If the N4 battery is as good as what's in my iPhone 3gs, it should last as long as I want to keep the phone.
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Re: Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2013, 09:40:02 AM »
I am also excited about the Nexus 4, it will be my next phone. Although it doesn't have 4G it does have HSPA+ which is what T-mobile calls their version of 4G.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2013, 10:24:30 AM »
Congratulations John. I got excited about the Nexus when I read your recent message and reviews, but I kept reading reports that Google was unable to deliver. I decided not to wait, and went with the SIII. Maybe Nexus next time  ???
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2013, 11:16:13 AM »
Tom - I was getting very, very close to buying an S3, but glad I got busy being preoccupied with other stuff.
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2013, 12:04:08 PM »
Looking forward to your first review of the Nexus John.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2013, 09:41:47 AM »
Looking forward to your first review of the Nexus John.

Will do Tom!  My phone was shipped and to be delivered tomorrow - yea!  ;D :D ;D
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2013, 12:32:17 PM »
After I read Ned's remarks in another thread I was interested so I researched the Nexus 4 and decided that was the phone for me. I ordered mine the other day and I am waiting anxiously. Thanks Ned. ;D
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2013, 01:02:28 PM »
Maybe I should ask for commissions from Google :)
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2013, 01:10:13 PM »
And if I like the Nexus 4 as much as I think I will then I will get me a Nexus 7 tablet. ;D ;D
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2013, 05:15:22 PM »
And if I like the Nexus 4 as much as I think I will then I will get me a Nexus 7 tablet. ;D ;D
That thought has crossed my mind as well...
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2013, 05:31:35 PM »
That thought has crossed my mind as well...
It is a no brainer for me. I don't own a tablet yet and I have been waiting until I saw one that appealed to me. Jelly Bean is a huge attraction for me. The 32 gig model is $269 and I am a huge Google fan. I use almost every service Google offers. I love my Chromebook and I am looking forward to adding a Google phone and a Google tablet. Then the last thing will be a Google TV.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2013, 10:03:53 AM »
I have a 10" tablet (Acer Iconia A500) and that tablet cannot migrate past Ice Cream Sandwich due to hardware limitations so here we are stuck in the past, but other than that, I've come to hate the A500  8).
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Re: Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2013, 05:26:37 PM »
It's here!

Unboxed but I haven't turned it on as yet, got it on the charger.  The N4 is a nice size, not too large but I need to go holster shopping.  I'm pretty certain the SIM card from my iPhone 3gs will plug right into tie N4 but there are hoops to jump through to get on a higher speed plan than my 3gs based on web research.
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2013, 08:45:20 PM »
I think the mystery part is a SIM ejection tool. What carrier are you on? I am on T-mobile and for me it is just a matter of swapping the SIM card out.
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2013, 10:06:00 PM »
Yup Tom - it's a SIM ejection tool!  To my surprise I discovered the SIM card in the iPhone 3gs is larger than what the N4 will accept  :P.  I know that some cut the cards to fit but I think I'll just drop by the ATT store tomorrow.  I need to get moved to a smartphone 4G plan so that should be an interesting experience.

I've spent maybe three hours playing with the N4 tonight and I like it - a lot!  The display is amazingly sharp and the phone feels good in the hand.  I've had to learn to hold a finger down a little longer than with the iPhone to activate a touch part of the screen so that will be a little bit of a learning curve.

The swipe keyboard (move your finger from letter to letter) will take some training on my part - I got some very weird results but I think that's me and not the keyboard.

The included email app is very basic and not one that you want to use - K9 email is 100% better.

The phone is maybe twice as fast as my Acer tablet, and I dare say right up there with my three year-old Toshiba laptop as least from a user interface perspective.
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Re: Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2013, 05:53:30 AM »
John - At T-mobile I get 100 minutes, unlimited Internet and unlimited texting for only $30 per month. I have been very happy with Tm as I move around the country.

Whoo-hoo! I woke up this morning to an email from Google telling me my N4 has shipped. The web site said one to two weeks. It was only 5 days. The problem is that I am at Disney World and I had it shipped to my mailbox in Las Vegas. So as soon as my mailbox tells me it is there I will have them overnight it to me. I am still going to be here ten more days so I should have the phone in a week. I didn't want to take a chance and have it shipped directly here since it could have arrived here after I left here.

I am anxious to hear more of your opinions. I use Gmail so I won't be using their generic email client. I use a whole lot of Google products and they all exceed my expectations so I am assuming the N4 will too.

Interestingly the camera in my Galaxy has died. I get a camera failed error message. I looked for a solution on the Internet and none of the solutions worked. So I have to take it back to Tmobile and if they can't fix it then they will have to get me a new one. Either way it will most likely be going up for sale soon.
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2013, 07:39:53 AM »
Unfortunately there is no T-Mobile in our area or they would absolutely be on the list for consideration.

Great news yours shipped!  Mine came by 2-day air but I certainly understand the issue of getting mail on the road, we've dealt with that for years.

I have three email accounts, one Gmail, one for personal and one that I use with businesses ( ______@janeandjohn.org) and I use IMAP for them since I check email from several devices.

While installing apps on the N4 last night I discovered my Chirp USA paid app (bird calls) has no Android equivalent  >:(.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2013, 05:10:47 PM »
Stopped by our AT&T wireless store this morning (to get a new SIM card and have my account changed to a 4G smartphone plan without jeopardizing my unlimited data plan) and to my pleasure everything went exceedingly well.  The young fellow (heck, almost everybody is younger now  ::)) that was helping me was a little perplexed - I don't think he's dealt with many unlocked phones before.  Oh boy, I'm getting geared up for a fight.

I chatted with him for a bit loosening him up - we talked about Apple's iOS and how slowly my 3gs has performed after every Apple upgrade and how I was considering a Galaxy S3.  I said there was probably no IMEI listed for the Nexus 4 since it's not an ATT branded phone and that from what I've read on Android forums, you just need to pick an ATT branded 4G smart phone to use its IMEI to associate with my plan.  He didn't say anything but continued to tap away on his company iPad.

After he played with the N4 for a bit he said, this is better than the S3  ;D - he's a big fan of LG electronics.  I asked a couple of questions like "are we good here..." regarding to getting me set up and his response was yes, no problem.

New SIM card inserted, plan changed to 4G and we're out the door in 20 minutes - OH YEAH!

More playing with the phone today.  I was standing in a line at Lowe's (it seemed like forever) and when in these situations I whip out my phone and read news, email, play Sudoku, etc. and discovered the phone is so wide that I can't use one hand to reach the entire screen area to manipulate the app (stuff to buy in one hand, only one hand free.)  That I can live with - I'll take the larger screen every time.

I tested the display in bright sunlight (as in zero clouds at 2pm) and found it almost hopelessly washed out.  Checked the settings and discovered that the brightness was at about the 50% level.  Crank up the brightness to 100% and it's completely useful now.

A few test pictures attached.  The panorama feature is way cool, the movie I shot looked good.

Edit:  the test pictures are not manipulated in any way and were saved in Photoshop 4 as a very high quality jpeg


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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2013, 07:38:35 PM »
The photos look very impressive. How long does it take from pushing the power button until the phone is usable? What is your opinion of the charger? Is it fast? What are your current thoughts on getting a Nexus 7 or 10?

My phone will be in Vegas tomorrow. It was shipped 2nd day. I will have it shipped 2nd to me in Florida so I should get it on Friday. To quote you, Whoo-hoo. I am glad I didn't hesitate any longer. There is a currently a 2-3 week waiting period now on both the 8 and the 16. LG just can't make them fast enough.
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2013, 08:28:16 PM »
Tom - I think not much shutter lag considering it's a phone, I've had more lag with my Nikon D80 under certain conditions.

No feel yet for battery life or recharge time.

Thinking seriously about a Google tablet but I haven't researched it yet, but the N4 is a winner for sure!
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2013, 08:39:04 PM »
Thinking seriously about a Google tablet but I haven't researched it yet, but the N4 is a winner for sure!

Come on over and you can play with my Nexus 7 for as long as you like.  We'll be home tomorrow, barring any serious problems.
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2013, 10:20:53 PM »
John, I wasn't asking about shutter lag. I was curious to know how long it takes the phone to turn on.
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2013, 08:27:39 AM »
Come on over and you can play with my Nexus 7 for as long as you like.  We'll be home tomorrow, barring any serious problems.
Jane's volunteering at the library today, but that would be fun to come over and say hi sometime in the near future.  Seven inches for a screen size seems small, my Acer tablet is 10" and that size seems about right.

John, I wasn't asking about shutter lag. I was curious to know how long it takes the phone to turn on.
Hmm, wonder how I got shutter lag out of that question, must have been that last glass of Chardonnay :P.  I timed boot up and it was 27 seconds (+- a second or two.)

I don't think I've commented on call quality yet, made one call and left a message on DW's Samsung Nexus.  On my end the volume was loud with very good tonal quality.  There are complaints on forums about a buzzing or rattling sound from the speaker but this particular N4 seems fine.  I listened to my message on the Samsung and I thought it sounded just a tad muffled - not crisp but very easy to understand - I'm being very critical here, I'm sure most people wouldn't think twice about it.

Obviously you can't draw any conclusions from one call - it will takes a few weeks to really wring out the N4's call performance. Another facet of the phone's performance is battery life, don't have a feel for that yet.
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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2013, 08:55:11 AM »
John - A 7 inch screen does seem a bit small to me that is why I will be getting the Nexus 10 with a 10 inch screen. The amazing thing about it is the screen is a dazzling 2560-by-1600 high-resolution display. That is 4 megapixels compared with 2 megapixels on a lot of modern computer monitors. The 16 gig version is only $399 and the 32 gig is $499.

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_10_16GB?id=nexus_10_16gb

I am hoping I can use one to replace my Chromebook. But from what I have read it doesn't replace laptops. I really wish I could edit my photos with it since it has such a great display then I could get rid of my Windows laptop, but Lightroom is not available in Android yet.
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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2013, 10:26:27 AM »
I've had my tablet for maybe a year and I also found it is not a replacement for a traditional PC.  As Ned says, good for content consumption and not content creation.
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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2013, 12:10:17 PM »
That is what I figured, but I can always hope. Well my N4 arrived in Vegas and I put in a shipping request so it will be here Friday.

Thanks for checking the startup time John. My Exhibit takes twice as long, 45 seconds, just to get to the home page (if that is what it is called on a cell phone) then it takes another minute for Media scanning to complete before the phone is usable. I won't miss a slow processor and all that crapware.
I would like to apologize to anyone I have not yet offended. Please be patient and I will get to you shortly.
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Grand Canyon photos:
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2013, 05:04:02 PM »
I just got a notice from my mailbox that they shipped my N4 Priority mail and it should be here Friday. It only cost me $9 to get it shipped across country. It will be a well traveled phone by the time it gets to me.
I would like to apologize to anyone I have not yet offended. Please be patient and I will get to you shortly.
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Grand Canyon photos:
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2013, 05:29:26 PM »
Good deal Tom, I know the wait will seem like an eternity though.

Received my first call on the N4 about 30 minutes ago from the FedEx guy asking how to spell the name of our street  ::) - I'm expecting Jeep parts.  I was impressed with the clarity and volume of the call.  Three thumbs up so far.
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2013, 05:35:43 PM »
I have been reading about the Nexus line this afternoon and I found out that the Nexus phones and tablets are always the first ones to get upgraded. I hate upgrades but I will have to live with that minor problem since I love Google so much. The good thing is that the upgrades are transparent to the user. We should be among the first to taste Key Lime Pie. Two days will pass quickly for me since I will be at Disney World. I have been here a week already and it only feels like two days, except in my feet, which feels like I have hiked from California :-X Man this place is gigantic.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2013, 05:44:41 PM »
.. I found out that the Nexus phones and tablets are always the first ones to get upgraded. ..
That's a bonus for me  :).

I used to work at AT&T's Exchange Drive data center in south Orlando and for a couple of years wife and I bought annual passes to Disney.  We would run out there once or twice a week after work and would typically walk around Epcot and have dinner there.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2013, 06:03:21 PM »
The reason why Nexus gets upgrades first is because the OS is written specifically for Nexus. Once it is released the other manufacturers have to make changes to the new upgrade to make it work specifically on their phones.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2013, 08:25:34 PM »
Tom or John,

Where does my Samsung Galaxy Nexus fit in the spectrum of Nexus devices when it comes to getting upgrades to the OS?  Currently my phone has Jelly Bean but it's version 4.1.1, not 4.2. 

Also what is this bloatware or crapware you mention that comes on some phones?

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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2013, 08:39:54 PM »
Where does my Samsung Galaxy Nexus fit in the spectrum of Nexus devices when it comes to getting upgrades to the OS?  Currently my phone has Jelly Bean but it's version 4.1.1, not 4.2. 
You might be eligible for an upgrade. It depends on your carrier. Check your carriers web site. However the phone has been discontinued so your carrier may no longer be doing upgrades for your phone. You may have 4.1 forever. My Exhibit is stuck on Gingerbread forever and it is not that great a version of Android and one of the reasons I am getting the N4.
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Also what is this bloatware or crapware you mention that comes on some phones?
That would be apps that come pre-installed on your phone that you will probably never use. Almost everyone of them is a demo and if you like the demo they will sell you the full version. Carriers put crapware on to help underwrite the cost of the phone. The more crapware, the cheaper the phone. The problem is that you can't remove them. The Nexus phones come without crapware so they boot quicker and run faster with more memory space available to you.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2013, 09:05:53 PM »
Tom,

Thanks for the reply.  When I got my phone last October it was running ICS and it upgraded to JB shortly after I registered it.  I'll check with Verizon to see if there's any info about an upgrade.

Enjoy Disney World.  We love Fort Wilderness.  We had planned to be there this month but things didn't work out this year. 
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2013, 10:11:31 PM »
Dear Wife has the Google Samsung Nexus and it's a really nice phone - even if you are stuck on your release of Jelly Bean, you could do a bunch worse.

Couple of advantages of the Google phones are the upgrade path is controlled by Google and not the carrier and the fact that it is running a pure version of Android not tweaked (ruined) by the hardware vendor with other stuff insisted on by the cell carrier.

One attribute that I absolutely detested with my ATT iPhone 3gs was that the user had zero control of carrier selection.  I would be in a poor to very poor signal area and the phone would take forever to switch to roam, that was beyond my control unless I hacked the phone with a Jailbreak.  Obviously ATT wanted to avoid paying roaming fees to other carriers to my disadvantage.

On DW's Nexus, we could select a carrier with a better signal and use it assuming they have a roaming agreement (not always the case as we discovered in Forest City, IA.)

On another note..

Both of our phones have Near Field Communications (NFC) - I've been playing with putting the phones back to back and transferring apps, just started playing so I'm not all certain what can be transferred.

I also set my N4 for face recognition unlock, still evaluating that feature.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2013, 11:17:25 PM »
I am also excited about NFC. I hope Walmart starts using it for payment.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2013, 06:48:54 AM »
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I also set my N4 for face recognition unlock, still evaluating that feature.

I use that on my N7.  Give it lots of training images with different lighting and it works quite well.  For those times that it can't identify you, a 4 digit PIN unlocks it.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2013, 08:20:54 AM »
Ned, yes, I've been taking more pictures in different lighting situations for training.  I've got it set up to lock/unlock with the power button, the N4 wakes up and recognizes my face astonishingly fast, the phone continues to impress me  :).

Other thoughts..

It's a little early to make any firm evaluations but at this point I think my iPhone has a slightly better keyboard in spite of the smaller screen - rarely did my finger touch a wrong letter.  With the N4, I've tapped quite a few wrong characters but maybe that's me and not the phone.  I remember with Honeycomb on my tablet, the keyboard was utterly and completely horrible - a lag when you hit a character and when trying to position the cursor, it may or may not (usually not) show up where you tapped the screen.  After the Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade the keyboard was magnitudes better but still not good enough (Edit - some of that problem could have been hardware-related.)

I know the Google Droid developers will continue to refine the user interface and other stuff 'under the hood', so I look forward to incremental improvements and more features with each release.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2013, 09:03:28 AM »
Practice with the built in Skype Swype and I think your keyboard problems will be minimal.  It's incredible how accurate it is.  I just have to remember to use it :)
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2013, 09:53:08 AM »
Practice with the built in Skype and I think your keyboard problems will be minimal.  It's incredible how accurate it is.  I just have to remember to use it :)
Okay - I'll call you on Skype and practice  ;D.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2013, 10:12:54 AM »
Ok, fixed  :P   Also, the voice to text works quite well.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2013, 12:38:53 PM »
Whoo-hoo my N4 arrived as planned. Amazing. I ordered it on Friday Feb 1st and it arrived Friday Feb 8th. The Play Store said it would ship in one to two weeks. And it had to travel across the country twice. Google always exceeds my expectations. It is on the charger now.
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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2013, 01:49:13 PM »
Outstanding Tom!  Have fun playing.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2013, 01:53:12 PM »
My SIM card is too big so I am going to have to take a taxi over to Tmobile in the morning and get it fixed. I have to go there anyway to get the camera on my old phone looked at. I just turned it on and played with it for a minute and it is really smooth.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2013, 06:47:55 PM »
Been playing with Google navigation more and decided it's pretty darn good, not quite up to my Garmin Nuvi's performance, but then again the Nuvi is a one-trick pony.  The N4 took a little bit longer to recalculate a route than the Nuvi (seat of the pants evaluation) when I didn't obey its driving instructions.

While spending a delightful two hours at the VA medical center in San Antonio this afternoon (nothing dramatic going on) I was on the phone enjoying 4G speeds and was non-stop checking mail, surfing, playing games, etc and keeping an eye on the battery charge.  Wow - 4G, I likee.

Uncharacteristically for me, I spent more time reading the included N4 user's guide (in the phone) today and discovered the integral Google Now. Google Now is a little difficult to describe - I suppose the most concise definition would be it is an aggregation of helper apps - what restaurant is nearby, what does the traffic look like on my commute home, etc, etc.

And now for one of the most complained about aspects of the N4 - battery life.  After two hours of very heavy use this afternoon and while running Google navigate on the way home, I got a low battery warning (20%? - I forgot) about 45 minutes from the ranch.  Turned off the nav app and we were okay for battery from that point on (for how long though I don't know.)

My gut feel is you are going to need a recharge source during the day if you are going to be a heavy user of the N4 (other than phone calls) - either a portable battery, cigarette lighter charger, AC charger, etc.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2013, 07:12:06 PM »
Yep the GPS is battery intensive. Try running your Garmin on the battery for a while. I am not a heavy user at all so I have no problem getting my phone to last all day. I plug it in every night and rarely do I use more than 25%. Battery life is the main complain of all smart phone users. They want a light weight real thin phone, but then they want the battery to last for days. It ain't going to happen with todays technology. You can't have your cake and sit on it too.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2013, 10:51:20 AM »
I went over to the T-mobile store this morning and got my SIM card cut down to size. I plugged it into the N4 and it is working perfectly. It is so much nicer than the Exhibit. I am glad I upgraded. Like the guy at the store said, it is like going from a 72 Pinto to a new Cadillac.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2013, 06:31:44 PM »
So far I am really thrilled with the N4. Saturday I went to Hollywood Studios and the only camera I took was the N4. Here are the results. Pretty good for a phone. The compression you see in the sky is not in the original. It is caused by compressing the photos to post online.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2013, 09:39:18 PM »
John,

My Galaxy Nexus is a real battery hog too.  I am using the OEM battery.  I thought about upgrading to the larger battery but I have an Otterbox case & I've read that the larger battery doesn't work well with the Otterbox.  To save battery when I'm out I keep the data turned off & turn it on only when I want to check e-mail or surf.  I also have it set to CDMA (3G) because I read somewhere that uses less power than the CDMA/LTE setting.  I also bought an i.Sound 16,000 mAh battery that I can take with me when I'm travelling.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2013, 09:43:41 PM »
....I also bought an i.Sound 16,000 mAh battery that I can take with me when I'm travelling.
I need to get one of those on order.

Followup report...

Phone updated to 4.2.2 Jelly Bean three or so days ago.

Face matching to unlock the phone indoors works maybe 25% of the time in spite of many, many training sessions.  Lots more work to be done there.  Just a while ago something went wonky in the phone and I couldn't pull down the top down to reveal current emails , updates, settings, etc.  Took a reboot to restore that feature.

The N4 is a great phone in spite of the poor battery life, very pleased.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #55 on: February 22, 2013, 03:47:11 AM »
My N4 also updated to 4.2.2 a few days ago too. However it is a totally insignificant upgrade:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/02/15/getting-to-know-android-4-2-2-many-extremely-tiny-changes-and-an-androidhome-sighting/

I am not having any problems with battery life. I don't think I have used more than half the battery in a day more than twice. I am now using it as a hotspot for my Chromebook and my Windows Laptop and it works real slick. Now instead of paying $35 a month to Verizon for 3 gigs for my Chromebook and $30 a month to T-mobile for the phone, I am paying $45 a month to T-mobile for everything. And the speed is way better since the Verizon Internet for the Chromebook was only 3G.

The best app I have found so far is the Fox35 Weather app. It is from a local Florida TV station but it works nationally. Amazing for a weather junkie like me:

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=fox35+weather+app

It's free with an small obnoxious ad on the top. What I like best is it adds the current local temp to the top of the screen in very small print.

I have not one problem of any kind so far with the phone. Works flawlessly 100% of the time.  I don't use the face recognition feature, I use the pattern draw. It is fast and works perfectly.

5 stars. :D
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