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SeilerBird

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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2013, 12:10:17 PM »
That is what I figured, but I can always hope. Well my N4 arrived in Vegas and I put in a shipping request so it will be here Friday.

Thanks for checking the startup time John. My Exhibit takes twice as long, 45 seconds, just to get to the home page (if that is what it is called on a cell phone) then it takes another minute for Media scanning to complete before the phone is usable. I won't miss a slow processor and all that crapware.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2013, 05:04:02 PM »
I just got a notice from my mailbox that they shipped my N4 Priority mail and it should be here Friday. It only cost me $9 to get it shipped across country. It will be a well traveled phone by the time it gets to me.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2013, 05:29:26 PM »
Good deal Tom, I know the wait will seem like an eternity though.

Received my first call on the N4 about 30 minutes ago from the FedEx guy asking how to spell the name of our street  ::) - I'm expecting Jeep parts.  I was impressed with the clarity and volume of the call.  Three thumbs up so far.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2013, 05:35:43 PM »
I have been reading about the Nexus line this afternoon and I found out that the Nexus phones and tablets are always the first ones to get upgraded. I hate upgrades but I will have to live with that minor problem since I love Google so much. The good thing is that the upgrades are transparent to the user. We should be among the first to taste Key Lime Pie. Two days will pass quickly for me since I will be at Disney World. I have been here a week already and it only feels like two days, except in my feet, which feels like I have hiked from California :-X Man this place is gigantic.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2013, 05:44:41 PM »
.. I found out that the Nexus phones and tablets are always the first ones to get upgraded. ..
That's a bonus for me  :).

I used to work at AT&T's Exchange Drive data center in south Orlando and for a couple of years wife and I bought annual passes to Disney.  We would run out there once or twice a week after work and would typically walk around Epcot and have dinner there.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2013, 06:03:21 PM »
The reason why Nexus gets upgrades first is because the OS is written specifically for Nexus. Once it is released the other manufacturers have to make changes to the new upgrade to make it work specifically on their phones.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2013, 08:25:34 PM »
Tom or John,

Where does my Samsung Galaxy Nexus fit in the spectrum of Nexus devices when it comes to getting upgrades to the OS?  Currently my phone has Jelly Bean but it's version 4.1.1, not 4.2. 

Also what is this bloatware or crapware you mention that comes on some phones?

Thanks.
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SeilerBird

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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2013, 08:39:54 PM »
Where does my Samsung Galaxy Nexus fit in the spectrum of Nexus devices when it comes to getting upgrades to the OS?  Currently my phone has Jelly Bean but it's version 4.1.1, not 4.2. 
You might be eligible for an upgrade. It depends on your carrier. Check your carriers web site. However the phone has been discontinued so your carrier may no longer be doing upgrades for your phone. You may have 4.1 forever. My Exhibit is stuck on Gingerbread forever and it is not that great a version of Android and one of the reasons I am getting the N4.
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Also what is this bloatware or crapware you mention that comes on some phones?
That would be apps that come pre-installed on your phone that you will probably never use. Almost everyone of them is a demo and if you like the demo they will sell you the full version. Carriers put crapware on to help underwrite the cost of the phone. The more crapware, the cheaper the phone. The problem is that you can't remove them. The Nexus phones come without crapware so they boot quicker and run faster with more memory space available to you.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2013, 09:05:53 PM »
Tom,

Thanks for the reply.  When I got my phone last October it was running ICS and it upgraded to JB shortly after I registered it.  I'll check with Verizon to see if there's any info about an upgrade.

Enjoy Disney World.  We love Fort Wilderness.  We had planned to be there this month but things didn't work out this year. 
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2013, 10:11:31 PM »
Dear Wife has the Google Samsung Nexus and it's a really nice phone - even if you are stuck on your release of Jelly Bean, you could do a bunch worse.

Couple of advantages of the Google phones are the upgrade path is controlled by Google and not the carrier and the fact that it is running a pure version of Android not tweaked (ruined) by the hardware vendor with other stuff insisted on by the cell carrier.

One attribute that I absolutely detested with my ATT iPhone 3gs was that the user had zero control of carrier selection.  I would be in a poor to very poor signal area and the phone would take forever to switch to roam, that was beyond my control unless I hacked the phone with a Jailbreak.  Obviously ATT wanted to avoid paying roaming fees to other carriers to my disadvantage.

On DW's Nexus, we could select a carrier with a better signal and use it assuming they have a roaming agreement (not always the case as we discovered in Forest City, IA.)

On another note..

Both of our phones have Near Field Communications (NFC) - I've been playing with putting the phones back to back and transferring apps, just started playing so I'm not all certain what can be transferred.

I also set my N4 for face recognition unlock, still evaluating that feature.
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SeilerBird

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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2013, 11:17:25 PM »
I am also excited about NFC. I hope Walmart starts using it for payment.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2013, 06:48:54 AM »
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I also set my N4 for face recognition unlock, still evaluating that feature.

I use that on my N7.  Give it lots of training images with different lighting and it works quite well.  For those times that it can't identify you, a 4 digit PIN unlocks it.
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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2013, 08:20:54 AM »
Ned, yes, I've been taking more pictures in different lighting situations for training.  I've got it set up to lock/unlock with the power button, the N4 wakes up and recognizes my face astonishingly fast, the phone continues to impress me  :).

Other thoughts..

It's a little early to make any firm evaluations but at this point I think my iPhone has a slightly better keyboard in spite of the smaller screen - rarely did my finger touch a wrong letter.  With the N4, I've tapped quite a few wrong characters but maybe that's me and not the phone.  I remember with Honeycomb on my tablet, the keyboard was utterly and completely horrible - a lag when you hit a character and when trying to position the cursor, it may or may not (usually not) show up where you tapped the screen.  After the Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade the keyboard was magnitudes better but still not good enough (Edit - some of that problem could have been hardware-related.)

I know the Google Droid developers will continue to refine the user interface and other stuff 'under the hood', so I look forward to incremental improvements and more features with each release.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2013, 09:03:28 AM »
Practice with the built in Skype Swype and I think your keyboard problems will be minimal.  It's incredible how accurate it is.  I just have to remember to use it :)
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2013, 09:53:08 AM »
Practice with the built in Skype and I think your keyboard problems will be minimal.  It's incredible how accurate it is.  I just have to remember to use it :)
Okay - I'll call you on Skype and practice  ;D.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2013, 10:12:54 AM »
Ok, fixed  :P   Also, the voice to text works quite well.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2013, 12:38:53 PM »
Whoo-hoo my N4 arrived as planned. Amazing. I ordered it on Friday Feb 1st and it arrived Friday Feb 8th. The Play Store said it would ship in one to two weeks. And it had to travel across the country twice. Google always exceeds my expectations. It is on the charger now.
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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2013, 01:49:13 PM »
Outstanding Tom!  Have fun playing.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2013, 01:53:12 PM »
My SIM card is too big so I am going to have to take a taxi over to Tmobile in the morning and get it fixed. I have to go there anyway to get the camera on my old phone looked at. I just turned it on and played with it for a minute and it is really smooth.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2013, 06:47:55 PM »
Been playing with Google navigation more and decided it's pretty darn good, not quite up to my Garmin Nuvi's performance, but then again the Nuvi is a one-trick pony.  The N4 took a little bit longer to recalculate a route than the Nuvi (seat of the pants evaluation) when I didn't obey its driving instructions.

While spending a delightful two hours at the VA medical center in San Antonio this afternoon (nothing dramatic going on) I was on the phone enjoying 4G speeds and was non-stop checking mail, surfing, playing games, etc and keeping an eye on the battery charge.  Wow - 4G, I likee.

Uncharacteristically for me, I spent more time reading the included N4 user's guide (in the phone) today and discovered the integral Google Now. Google Now is a little difficult to describe - I suppose the most concise definition would be it is an aggregation of helper apps - what restaurant is nearby, what does the traffic look like on my commute home, etc, etc.

And now for one of the most complained about aspects of the N4 - battery life.  After two hours of very heavy use this afternoon and while running Google navigate on the way home, I got a low battery warning (20%? - I forgot) about 45 minutes from the ranch.  Turned off the nav app and we were okay for battery from that point on (for how long though I don't know.)

My gut feel is you are going to need a recharge source during the day if you are going to be a heavy user of the N4 (other than phone calls) - either a portable battery, cigarette lighter charger, AC charger, etc.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2013, 07:12:06 PM »
Yep the GPS is battery intensive. Try running your Garmin on the battery for a while. I am not a heavy user at all so I have no problem getting my phone to last all day. I plug it in every night and rarely do I use more than 25%. Battery life is the main complain of all smart phone users. They want a light weight real thin phone, but then they want the battery to last for days. It ain't going to happen with todays technology. You can't have your cake and sit on it too.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2013, 10:51:20 AM »
I went over to the T-mobile store this morning and got my SIM card cut down to size. I plugged it into the N4 and it is working perfectly. It is so much nicer than the Exhibit. I am glad I upgraded. Like the guy at the store said, it is like going from a 72 Pinto to a new Cadillac.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2013, 06:31:44 PM »
So far I am really thrilled with the N4. Saturday I went to Hollywood Studios and the only camera I took was the N4. Here are the results. Pretty good for a phone. The compression you see in the sky is not in the original. It is caused by compressing the photos to post online.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2013, 09:39:18 PM »
John,

My Galaxy Nexus is a real battery hog too.  I am using the OEM battery.  I thought about upgrading to the larger battery but I have an Otterbox case & I've read that the larger battery doesn't work well with the Otterbox.  To save battery when I'm out I keep the data turned off & turn it on only when I want to check e-mail or surf.  I also have it set to CDMA (3G) because I read somewhere that uses less power than the CDMA/LTE setting.  I also bought an i.Sound 16,000 mAh battery that I can take with me when I'm travelling.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2013, 09:43:41 PM »
....I also bought an i.Sound 16,000 mAh battery that I can take with me when I'm travelling.
I need to get one of those on order.

Followup report...

Phone updated to 4.2.2 Jelly Bean three or so days ago.

Face matching to unlock the phone indoors works maybe 25% of the time in spite of many, many training sessions.  Lots more work to be done there.  Just a while ago something went wonky in the phone and I couldn't pull down the top down to reveal current emails , updates, settings, etc.  Took a reboot to restore that feature.

The N4 is a great phone in spite of the poor battery life, very pleased.
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Re: > It's here - Whoo-hoo - Google Nexus 4 ordered
« Reply #55 on: February 22, 2013, 03:47:11 AM »
My N4 also updated to 4.2.2 a few days ago too. However it is a totally insignificant upgrade:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/02/15/getting-to-know-android-4-2-2-many-extremely-tiny-changes-and-an-androidhome-sighting/

I am not having any problems with battery life. I don't think I have used more than half the battery in a day more than twice. I am now using it as a hotspot for my Chromebook and my Windows Laptop and it works real slick. Now instead of paying $35 a month to Verizon for 3 gigs for my Chromebook and $30 a month to T-mobile for the phone, I am paying $45 a month to T-mobile for everything. And the speed is way better since the Verizon Internet for the Chromebook was only 3G.

The best app I have found so far is the Fox35 Weather app. It is from a local Florida TV station but it works nationally. Amazing for a weather junkie like me:

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=fox35+weather+app

It's free with an small obnoxious ad on the top. What I like best is it adds the current local temp to the top of the screen in very small print.

I have not one problem of any kind so far with the phone. Works flawlessly 100% of the time.  I don't use the face recognition feature, I use the pattern draw. It is fast and works perfectly.

5 stars. :D
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