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My next boat
« on: February 15, 2013, 05:50:19 AM »
All it takes is wealth of a few $B to consider a toy like this 533 foot yacht:

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Re: My next boat
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2013, 06:07:16 AM »
I am not impressed. You can't water ski behind it. :(
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2013, 08:19:13 AM »
Aren't two onboard helipads overkill?  Not too mention a submarine and an anti-missle defense system!  I would love to see the interior of this boat!
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 10:52:55 AM »
Over kill, (Aren't two onboard helipads overkill) you got to be kidding right? This is just your average largest yacht in the world, how could anything be over kill?!!! ::)
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 12:33:03 PM »
I saw this boat once while traveling in the Caribbean.  It's imposing.
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2013, 02:29:43 PM »
These megayachts get bigger and bigger. Some years ago we were berthed alongside a 187 foot Feadship at Sausalito, on San Francisco Bay. This thing sure made our boat look like a little toy. The boat was featured in the next annual 'World's 100 largest yachts' issue of Power and Motoryacht magazine. That was the last year it was featured; It was surpassed by boats like Paul Allen's 400 footer (he had two boats in the same issue of the magazine). Looks like the threshold is going up, and it will take an LOA of 500+ feet to make the cut.
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 02:53:06 PM »
The costs of these boats/ guess they really are not boats but ships! Anyway I know they costs a bunch to build but I wonder how much they really cost on a yearly bases and if they actually have some kind of yearly income from any kind of use. Still way above my wildest dreams for sure, but then I don't think I really would want that level of anything, seems like you would never really feel like anything was really your own with so many people required to operate items this large.   
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 03:04:01 PM »
imagine how much it cost to pay a crew to operate "your" boat
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2013, 05:09:53 PM »
The average cost of just maint. is 20% of the build cost of any given yacht. That is to keep it in pristine shape with no major damage or machinery casualties.

The cost for crewing: Master  $180,00 - 240,000 per yr.
                                Mate (2-3) @ $120,000 per yr.
                                Chief Engineer  $180,000 - $240,000 per yr.
                                Asst. Engineers 2 @ 120,000 per yr.
                                Deckhands and Oilers 8 @ $75,000 per yr.

Hotel staff (double the above and then some depending on size)

Fuel- on the 500 footer is somewhere in the 8-10 tons per hr @ moderate speed $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The above pay rates are approx. industry standards. You can expect to pay much more for people with experience with certain equipment.

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Re: My next boat
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2013, 06:44:40 PM »
It was some time in the 90's when we were berthed next to the 187' Feadship. We got to know some of the crew fairly well, although they were tight lipped about the owner. They were on their way from Alaska to New Zealand, and were berthed in Sausalito to give the crew some shore leave.

The boat gets moved to a different part of the world, just in case the owner decides to invite some folks aboard for dinner. The owner flies to the destination, and s/he might not even invite someone aboard. The crew then waits for orders to move to the next place.

Can't recall the fuel consumption, but we guestimated an annual budget of $7-8M for this boat at that time (the 90's), given various pieces of data we could extract from the crew.

Oops, forgot to mention there was a fulltime crew of 13, including the Captain, two chefs and two engineers.

Scale all this up for a 500+ foot boat.
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2013, 06:51:40 PM »
God I love my job!  ::)
Just be careful you don't injure your wrist operating that joystick 8)
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2013, 07:02:04 PM »
I saw a boat at the Harbour Club Marina in Nassau once, it was owned by some big arms dealer, you'd recognize his name if I could just remember it.  Anyway, his vessel was about 300' LOA and his "dinghy" was 60', my own boat was 40'.  Talk about envy!
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2013, 07:20:01 PM »
I am fine with my 23' jet boat!
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2013, 09:46:46 PM »
Just be careful you don't injure your wrist operating that joystick 8)

Not gonna happen! That is what my Mate is for. LOL
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2013, 06:11:33 PM »
Imposing!

One of Paul Allen's yachts, Meduse, went up the Columbia through Bonneville Lock when we were there last summer. Not nearly as big, but still impressive. The helicopter was not present at that time, but saw it later when they headed back downriver. I heard that after they got upriver, they got held up for a couple of weeks waiting for parts when something vital broke down. I asked them for information, to share with our visitors, such as whose yacht it was and where they were headed, but they said it was all confidential.
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2013, 07:35:27 PM »
Back in my sailing days we used to see some pretty impressive yacht porn in Newport, RI, but nothing like these.  Princess Subaru had a heli-deck, and that was enough to impress us.  I am more impressed with sailing yachts, with crew.  Those huge boats, are just for showing off, not using.



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Re: My next boat
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2013, 07:39:31 PM »
Here's the Serengeti, Johnny Carson's boat, berthed in Marina Del Rey.
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2013, 01:35:00 AM »
When we did our tour of Europe with Terry & Liliane in '01, we stopped at Antibes for dinner. Terry & I walked along the pier viewing the many yachts that were tied up. I remember him remarking "you really think you are well off until you see this". I don't think any ship was less than 150'.

Attached is a photo I shot from Monte Carlo on the same trip. This was taken way above the harbor. As you can see, one ship outshines all the others.  ;D
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2013, 05:58:12 AM »
Aye Jim, as we always say, someone always has bigger boat  ;D
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2013, 08:35:42 AM »
Not that it was ever a consideration, but I felt that if I couldn't sail it myself, why have it?  My enjoyment was working the boat, not just being on it.  Our largest was a 26' sloop, with an inboard diesel.  At times I miss having a boat, but now that I have a kayak I am pretty much OK.

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Re: My next boat
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2013, 11:26:19 AM »
Bill, did you get 2 foot-itis and bought a 28' Kayak ?   ;D
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2013, 04:53:25 PM »
Nope, downsized, 9.5.   
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2013, 05:30:46 PM »
Quote from: Tom
... someone always has bigger boat

A friend took a couple of shots of us passing a cruise ship as we entered Cruiseport Marina in Ensenada. It made our 51' LOA look like a small duck waddling by. From an earlier topic:
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2013, 10:30:54 PM »
Tom that's but a dingy for that ship!  No really you have a very nice boat there and not that small at all!
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2013, 01:54:32 AM »
Some (unverified) numbers tossed out on TV for the Eclipse:

Cost:  $1.2B
Annual expense:  $50M
One fill of fuel:  $650,000
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2013, 07:19:05 AM »
Tom, Nice boat,

 Like everyone I have the urge for "2 foot more". A couple of feet more for the Sea Ray Cruiser, a couple of foot more for the RV or maybe a extra slide, maybe a few more horsepower on the airplane.... Good thing I have the wife to knock some sense in to my head. To quote my bride of 37 years, "I should have killed you in your sleep years ago" to which I reply, and you would have missed out on such a wild ride!  ;D

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Re: My next boat
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2013, 08:42:01 PM »

Someone mentioned that you wouldn't be able to waterski behind this boat.  I guessing you could surf its wake. 

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Re: My next boat
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2013, 10:13:05 PM »
In the photo world we only wish for 100mm longer in lens.  I did the boat thing, did the RV thing, I still want a 500mm prime. 
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2013, 02:26:54 AM »
I have a 200-500 and I am no longer wishing for 100 mm more. It would be too big and too hard to hold for me.
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2013, 08:25:00 AM »
Of course. 
Which 200-500?  Sigma or Tamron?

Guessing Tamron.  but if the Sigma, I totally understand, that lens weighs 37 pounds! 
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Re: My next boat
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2013, 02:46:06 PM »
The Canon 500mm is "only" a little over $10K. Why not just go for the 800mm at bit over $13K instead (and a crane to hold it maybe, at 9.9 lbs.).
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