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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2013, 05:52:54 PM »
we have a 1990 34' actual length Champion Lasalle motorhome, 67K miles. Lots of work getting it the way it should be, like sealing the roof, new sofa sleeper, dining booth, new front curtains, new 120 volt fridge. Good thing we paid very little for it, grand kids are loving it too.
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #61 on: July 09, 2013, 07:44:45 PM »
1987 Triple E Regency Class C 6.9L diesel.  191000km's on the odo. C6 tranny.

Picked it up for $4500 and spent the winter restoring it at an additional cost of around $3000 (power steering, tires, brakes, belts, flushes, leaf spring, new AC receiver dryer and r134 conversion, suspension bushings, some soft wall repairs and resealed windows).  All work done myself.  Everything works on it and some early camping trips have gone well.

Wanted a smaller diesel class C for our impending 9600km round trip out west and back to Ontario.  So far I am getting around 12mpg doing a mixture of local and highway driving.  Once I am on holiday I will drive a bit slower ;-)

Definitely have to be a DIY type for an older motorhome, but the end result can save you some $ and be rewarding.  Not to mention that if something is to go wrong I will likely have an inkling of how to fix it.

Hey Biffidum! Good to see another Canuck on the forum!

Any tips for wall repairs? I've got a big soft spot on one of the walls of my 92 Southwind. Compliments of a crappy caulking job at the roofline above. How hard is it to cut out a section and replace with new plywood?
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2013, 08:36:36 AM »
Wall repair depends on the type of wall construction you have in your MH.  Mine happens to be a foam board sandwiched with 1/8 plywood on either side.  The exterior is then covered with 1/8th fiberglass sheeting.  I cut the exterior fiberglass off as neatly as possible and used it for a template.  I manufactured my own replacement wall board by gluing a sandwich of 1/4 plywood / pink foam board / fiberglass shower liner (1.5mm ??) (home depot).  The thickness in the end matched the factory sandwich almost exactly.  I could not find 1/8 plywood that didn't cost a fortune and I thought the fiberglass liner would add extra moisture protection if oriented towards the exterior.  I used a commercial polyurethane glue for the laminating process.

Once the glue set I placed the exterior section over the board and cut out the board for an exact fit into the MH.  You have to leave some room for lapping the edges for strength.  I also cut into the stringers in the wall for added rigidity.  You should carefully mark the best spots for screwing the wall to firm mounting points.

Once in place I squirted in some flexible window foam sealant and then glued the exterior fiberglass panel in place.

Turned out quite well I think.

You will definitely want to reseal all your windows with the window mastic putty stuff or you will have more troubles in the future.  I also went around the roof edge and sealed it with self leveling sealant as the silicon stuff will not do the trick.
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2013, 08:57:46 AM »
Nice job on the wall repair! That's a big job  :o :o  And thanks for posting the pics and how-to. Very informative for other hopeful DIYers.

I believe the walls of my coach are built similarly to yours. As the fibreglass seems to be in OK shape (though I found a spot of delam over the driver's door last night while resealing what I hope is the leaky spot), I'm really hoping I can simply cut out the interior ply layer and replace it with new..... Will have to read up on repairing delamination before I get into it though. May be a one-shot deal!

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #64 on: July 10, 2013, 11:19:09 AM »
If you are sure there is no water damage, ... for delamination I have heard of some people drilling a small hole and injecting an adhesive, then placing a thick board against the spot and applying horizontal pressure with a plank up against the side of their house of some firm vertical wall of some sort.  You could use gorilla glue which will foam into the surrounding area if you leave a gap for a few minutes and then apply pressure.  Just be sure to inject a bit of moisture for it to cure properly.  You might want to mask the area of the hole with some tape so you can clean up what comes out under pressure to minimize a glue stain.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #65 on: July 10, 2013, 11:37:33 AM »
If you are sure there is no water damage, ... for delamination I have heard of some people drilling a small hole and injecting an adhesive, then placing a thick board against the spot and applying horizontal pressure with a plank up against the side of their house of some firm vertical wall of some sort.  You could use gorilla glue which will foam into the surrounding area if you leave a gap for a few minutes and then apply pressure.  Just be sure to inject a bit of moisture for it to cure properly.  You might want to mask the area of the hole with some tape so you can clean up what comes out under pressure to minimize a glue stain.

Cheers!

Thanks for the advice! Sadly I know the area of delam is not dry - discovered it while (hopefully) sealing a leak that has rippled the wallpaper on the inside of the motorhome wall right behind the driver's seat. Not sure if the water is on both sides of the wall (ie both plywood layers) or just the interior layer though.  I may poke an exploratory hole into one of the delam bubbles and have a peek. Given as how I'll be poking a hole there to repair it in any case, there's no harm!
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2013, 06:48:25 PM »
When they installed the right front window in my coach from the factory, they didn't get the seal in right. I had delamination and wood rot . I pulled the window out and cut all the damaged area away. Mine has an aluminum frame so no frame damage. Scraped all the glue off the outer skin and replaced the foam and used 1/8 in luan. don't remember what adhesive I used, bought it at the lumber yard with the rest of the material. It was a slow set so I had time to complete the job and get some bracing on it, inside and out. Then I used some material I had from redoing the seats in my old Itasca, to make door panels. Came out pretty good, now I just have to make another panel for the drivers side. That was a couple years ago, still very solid. I was able to use the original seal after I warmed it up. No leaks now. Your problem maybe hard to get the outside to be straight while the glues set up. If you push too hard on it, it'll stay that way when you remove the shoring.
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2013, 10:01:11 AM »
1986 Winnebago Elandan 32k miles 31ft 454chevy w/banks p30 chassis, first RV for me and I love it. Ex-in laws owed it since new.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2013, 09:04:58 AM »
My wife and I have a 1982 Sport Coach and she is still running strong! We are full-timers in it right now. It might not have all the facny things that the new motorhomes have, but it works for us. I don't think there's a motorhome out there that is pefect. They all have issues at some point, or another. Nothing wrong with needing some TLC now and then. The oldies are the goodies in my opinion from what I've seen! :D ;D

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #69 on: July 18, 2013, 01:18:08 AM »
Going to put a new set of tires on ours soon, have to go to a bigger city to find them.

Need to check the levelers, one in the front slowly went down, saw some fluid in the foot, hubby said maybe leaking hose, he is going to try and check.

Also we think the radiator on the genny is losing water.

It's old, has been 6000 miles since we got it on the road, soooo

Also getting an oil change

If Tom doesn't get time to look at those items then I'm off to the factory.  Maybe they will like seeing one of their old 1992's still on the road.    But it will be a lot cheaper if he can have the time to fix those items.  Likely hoses old and rotted.


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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #70 on: July 18, 2013, 07:24:47 AM »
Going to put a new set of tires on ours soon, have to go to a bigger city to find them.

Need to check the levelers, one in the front slowly went down, saw some fluid in the foot, hubby said maybe leaking hose, he is going to try and check.

Also we think the radiator on the genny is losing water.

It's old, has been 6000 miles since we got it on the road, soooo

Also getting an oil change

If Tom doesn't get time to look at those items then I'm off to the factory.  Maybe they will like seeing one of their old 1992's still on the road.    But it will be a lot cheaper if he can have the time to fix those items.  Likely hoses old and rotted.

Hey patriot. Sounds like your rig has hit one of those "maintenance milestones" again! Mine never seems to get past them! My rig is the same vintage as yours, but a lot simpler in some ways - gasser engine, no levellers, no genny (bummer when it's HOT on the road, but nothing to break down or leak on me either!). Mine will be in the shop next week for it's semi-annual feel-and-tickle (oil change, chassis lube, filters, brake and tire inspection, etc). Seems a little crazy sometimes for the limited miles we (plan to) put on it this summer, but it's better than a middle of nowhere breakdown!


Decision time might be next season, though, as I'll have to decide between $2000-$3000 on new tires for a then 22yo MH or sink the same into a payment on a new(er) rig.  ??? :-\
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2014, 09:35:00 PM »
1995 Winnebago Luxor Class A Pusher Diesel.  Very well built and in great condition.  Even fun to drive!  We call it the "Freeway Flyer".  We love it!
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2014, 03:20:15 PM »
This year has been an expensive one, we bit the bullet and bought the new tires, 6 Michelin XZA2's, ouch.

Now I am on an 1800 mile trip so far, will be several thousand more before I get back home.  I've had issues, hubby didn't get it totally winterized apparently,
the p trap on the washer leaked, and a bypass valve at the water heater
 
The other day the fridge went, that HURT BAD,  but it was 22 years old so what can I say.  I debated on getting an RV fridge or home one, decided I didn't want to worry all the time if the food was good or not, so bit another bullet.

The RV repair guy must love me by now.  By the way he is very good I think.  My 1 furnace blower and motor is going.  He can't get it apart was going to put new parts in it.  It's rusted I guess, he said he had a whole used furnace he had bought and will check it out for me and if it works ok I will buy that, will save me a bundle.  Oh I forgot the water heater quit working too, he ungraded it to electronic but I have a couple of used parts in it too.  I like someone like that.  If anything else goes wrong I likely will wait till hubby can fix it.  Enough money for 1 year. However, I don't really envision more issues.  We have had it going on 3 years now and did nothing to the inside, wanted to make sure the mechanicals were ok first.  It's just we could have done a lot of this so much cheaper if hubby were home.

I put up a new light fixture in the bedroom, I think the old one has some pieces that need soldered.  I like the original better, I bought 2 at a flea market but only put one up for now.  If hubby can resolder the one connector I would rather have them, they are heavy duty and much nicer then new.  But its also nice to have light back there and not stumble around in the dark to get to the head of the bed to turn on a light.

Now lets see if I can go many more miles this year without buying something else!  I hope so.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #73 on: January 31, 2014, 03:48:53 PM »
I think I may have hit the proverbial wall with our 1992 Southwind. My contract at work came to an end this month, so we were thinking about getting a seasonal site for the old rig, but it seems no one around here wants a rig THAT old on their sites! Most lenient park I have found so far has a 15-years-or-newer policy for its seasonal campers. (Sigh).

That, on top of a limping-home-from-camping experience last fall (lost the seal on the EGR valve - NOT a fun way to drive through the border crossing at Buffalo, NY/Niagara Falls, ON. Had to two-foot it all the way home to keep from stalling out - one foot on the gas at all times, including when braking with the other foot! A white-knuckle drive I do not care to repeat.

The repair cost there wasn't too bad at about $650, but the DW and I get the sinking feeling that the cost/benefit ratio of keeping the ol girl on the road is tipping significantly out of our favour! In fact, after that crappy trip, I went out and bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee as a future tow vehicle I don;t also mind using as a daily driver.

For Sale sign is up on the Southwind, and I'm looking in earnest for a suitable travel trailer.....

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2014, 08:35:06 AM »
Driving a 96 here. Still going strong. :) It is our first RV, so plan to keep it 4-5 years then upgrade.
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #75 on: February 02, 2014, 04:14:32 PM »
We have a 1993 Barth Breakaway 36 ft 8.3 cummins and allison 3060 trans (6 spd). We are, for practical purposes, the 2nd owners. No slides-- no problem! !
The coach has a beautiful paint job and with chrome bumpers and some chrome accents-- looks great (our humble opinion). :) We are currently very happy with it-- we'll be starting into our 6th year with it in a couple of months.
We also have a 1977 Barth 21 foot for use here at home-- it takes a bit more TLC to keep it moving down the road but did a 2000 mile trip with it last year (closer to home).
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #76 on: February 02, 2014, 08:48:20 PM »
biffidum,
     You have my respect and something else. I owned an 1987 Triple e class C, the same colors as yours. And, had a bad leak in the wall about the same place that you had to repair yours. I replaced the interior walls myself, but not the outer walls. I heard everything from pin holes in the aluminum roof causing the leaks to leaks along the seam where the roof meets the wall. Had the ceiling peeled out and the mold all cleaned out. After having it all repaired, I sold it off and purchased a diesel pusher, and now I could not be happier to be rid of the Triple E. Just too many repairs.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2014, 11:17:08 PM »
Where were you going they wouldn't let you in?  I haven't  had that problem yet but I worry that I will, then I will have to do something.  Either buy another or give up motorhoming and just drive the car.  Going to be hard going back.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #78 on: February 06, 2014, 03:00:21 PM »
My wife and I have a 1988 Rockwood Driftwood 37' motorhome.
We have had it for a few years now.I like the older style motorhomes, and not having notes helps too.
When we bought it, I worked on it for 1.5yrs, before we used it.There is 45.000 miles on it, but because
of age, alot of things needed to be fixed.I upgraded the kitchen,and totally upgraded the bathroom.
also did alot of little things to bring it up to date.I fixed oil leaks overhauled the carb,replaced all ignition parts,
new fuel lines,brakes.Just worked it from bumper to bumper including some painting.
It may be old but it looks great inside and out.We live in it fulltime now,and have run it up and down the east coast,
with no problems.All you need to do is upgrade things,just do a little at a time.In a older rig,you mostly have alot
of little things to deal with.If you bought a newer rig,you would have to start all over,going through it.
You will always want to do things, to your taste.Every motorhome on the road will always need something.
Ours is just right for us.We have no plans to replace it. Good luck,and enjoy your rig!
Thanks! Kevin & Terrie Woodward
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #79 on: February 07, 2014, 09:36:20 AM »
Looking back, the radiator didn't have a leak on the genny.  Husband said the fan motor was not working so not cooling good and  using water.  He found another pretty cheap a new one and put it on, end of that issue.

At the age of ours lots of things are finally giving up the ghost with use.  Unless its the motor or tranny we will just keep it going.  I don't know what we will do if it gets to that, will wait till then to make a decision, no indicator of problems there yet.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #80 on: September 16, 2015, 12:47:23 AM »
Just posting, we still have our old 1992 Eagle, almost bought a newer one but didn't happen
for several reasons. 

Will see how long this one keeps going I guess.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #81 on: September 16, 2015, 12:48:28 PM »
Man, this thread makes me really happy... when I started my MH search a couple years ago I joined another forum (that will remain nameless) asking for advice, and the sentiment was "Don't bother with anything older than 10 years." Well, I wasn't interested in spending thirty or forty grand on a toy, but it did make me feel poorly about what result my money was actually going to get.

I ended up with a '93 Southwind 30E, probably identical to the OP's, and I love it. Then I found you guys, and I love you too! :) The only issues the Southwind has suffered have been totally minor, not even worth worrying about. All the big stuff - the electrical system, plumbing, drivetrain, has been flawless and a pleasure to operate. The '90s were a good time for GM mechanicals and it shows even in a motorhome - a strong engine and a perfectly behaved transmission. I also like the narrower footprint of the older models, and since I'm more interested in just a travelling bathroom than an actual travelling house I appreciate the simplicity of no slides and such. The Southwind is a mobile bed & bath for us, not so much a mobile home. :)

I do foresee a time in the future when the electrical system is going to give unexpected problems - I am *shocked* at what a poor job Fleetwood did - unprotected terminals and non-weather-proof connectors everywhere. I've done a bunch of upgrades on the electrical system, and each time I do something I end up spending an extra hour or two cutting back corroded wires or terminals or connectors and replacing them with proper, automotive-grade parts. I've spend a relative fortune on marine-grade heat shrink, Permaseal hardware, and Weatherpack terminals, but hopefully the long-term result is worth it. :) On the upside, I'm keeping a great old rig running great and satiating my OCD at the same time. ;) I just redid the battery cables, and even walking by the front of the thing makes me feel good. :)

http://www.sacsaabs.org/sacsaabs.org/misc/southwind_batterycables.jpg

Still got more work to do up there, but the foundation is solid.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #82 on: September 16, 2015, 01:16:02 PM »
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the sentiment was "Don't bother with anything older than 10 years."

That's garbage!  Many of us are driving older motorhomes.  This summer we passed 102,000 miles on our current one.  What's most important is not its age but its maintenance.  If the owner doesn't take care of it, then of course it will have issues.  Some problems are inevitable but continuous maintenance prevents many of those problems.  We're both "easy" drivers too which means we use the throttle and the brakes judiciously.  We had our brake linings checked during one of our maintenance stops this summer and they're "like new" because we save hard braking for when it's really needed.  That's just one example.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #83 on: September 16, 2015, 02:25:50 PM »
Anyone who has seen Ardra's coach will know it's immaculate inside and out. Ardra's hubby Jerry is fanatical about maintenance, and they're both fanatical about appearance.
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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #84 on: September 16, 2015, 05:32:55 PM »
Just a little OCD!  ::)  But we're really lucky to have a garage which is much nicer than keeping it outside.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #85 on: September 17, 2015, 10:13:36 PM »
What year is yours?

 I got my carpet cleaned today, wanted them to do the ceiling but the guy said his insurance
won't let him.  I bet it could have been cleaned nicely. I'm having my 2 kitchen chairs recovered.
Wondering if one of the hand steamers would clean the ceiling, I think its oxite or something like carpet, he was afraid of loosening the glue.

Drove it home the other day from the diesel shop, it has a bit more pep in the lower mile
per hour range.  But as hubby said its not going to have much more with only a 4 speed tranny, sounded really smooth.  hope the old girl has a lot more trips left in her.  I do like driving it but slides would be nice, sigh.  I need to open the engine cover and see what the new canister and filter deal looks like.


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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #86 on: September 18, 2015, 03:54:03 PM »
Carolyn, it's a 2004.  As to your ceiling, yes it probably is ozite which used to be very popular for use in RV ceilings.  You might Google ozite cleaning and see what you can find.  But first search here on the RV Forum.  Just use the word ozite and you'll find some discussions because others have also wanted to clean their ozite ceilings in the past.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #87 on: September 18, 2015, 05:35:46 PM »
1992 bounder 34j. Ford. 57,000 mi. Owned 20 yrs. know every bolt, nut, and screw. Love it! Looks good, drives good, and lives good. Pulls 1992 geo tracker toad.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #88 on: September 18, 2015, 06:48:39 PM »
Ok I thought you have a newer one.

I washed it today and I'm going to work on waxing tomorrow.  I cleaned 3 of the chrome wheels with the Mequier chrome cleaner, came out nice.

I will look up the ozite stuff, it wasn't to bad but I spot cleaned some of it and also where the AC's were replaced it could look better. 

I want it cleaner looking, thinking of replacing the front curtains too, might even replace some of the blinds, everything in it is 1992 of course.

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Re: Who's keeping an older MH on the road??
« Reply #89 on: September 20, 2015, 08:40:35 PM »
Just bought a '97 Discovery DP.........I hope it lives another two years , because if it does we will both have seen
a lot of America............" Buy an RV, and see the U.S.A."

John and Jennifer
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