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Dean & Linda Stock

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Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« on: February 26, 2013, 11:25:26 PM »
We're off on an Arizonan adventure--looking for interesting sites, interesting animals, and interesting birds.  I had planned on starting my log sooner, but we received a notice (which turned out to be a fake) that our Earthlink account had been corrupted, so Dean wouldn't let me near the computer.  We only had WiFi because there was only one long site available and we were next to a tall tree which blocked our satellite.  Our choice at the Wickenburg park was having electricity or having satellite, and we chose electricity. Dean didn't want to address the hacking problem until he had satellite-access because that's more secure.

Please let me know any suggestions you have about places to stay, sites to see, or places to eat in Tucson, Yuma, Anza Borrego, or Palm Springs (Palm Desert).

This monthlong trip has two goals--fun and a "shakedown" for our Alaska trip in May.
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 12:28:49 AM »
Feb. 22, Friday   Day 1

We traveled from Las Vegas to Wickenburg, AZ.  We arrived at Desert Cypress RV & Motorhome Park at 5:58.  They will not park you after dark, which they told us was 6:00, so we arrived 2 minutes early!  WHEW!  Management was very nice and let us park our Jeep in their carport.  They have cable TV, WiFi, 50 amps, a place to walk your dog, asphalt roads, and level concrete pads.  It's an older park, but the coaches are well kept and the people are a happy group.  Cost was $36

Feb. 23, Saturday   Day 2      Wickenburg

We set the alarm for 6:00 so we could be at Hassayampa Preserve at 8:00.  We hoped to see lots of raptors, resident birds, maybe some migrants flying through, and perhaps mule deer, javelinas, or lizards.  We had 16 mph wind, and it was cold.  The animals had more sense than we did and chose to sleep in. 

We did hear a woodpecker in the distance.  We tried to find him, to no avail.  A duck somewhere gave us one quack.  We got glimpses of a few birds flying quickly through the trees.  And we got to see some Anna's hummingbirds (which we have lot of in our own backyard).  One male did bring a smile to my face when he flashed his magenta throat at me.  However, the feeders were in the shade, so the pictures don't show the beautiful colors.

Hassayampa is owned by one of my favorite groups, The Nature Conservancy.  They only have 1.5 paid personnel, and there were 15-20 volunteers working hard at clearing brush (brush is great for birds but bad for fire prevention).  The office volunteers were anxious to share their knowledge, but I think we just chose the wrong day.

We were done so quickly, we'd seen the one movie that was playing, and we had time for Dean to do repairs.  We had new carpeting installed, and that necessitated taking out the chairs and re-installing them.  On the drive to Wickenburg, I found myself swinging back and forth in my seat with no way to stop it because I'm too short for my feet to touch the floor.  Funny for the first 2 minutes, not so funny after that.  Dean got the chair off, learned how it's put together, but it still swings to and fro--after 6 hours of work.  Poor guy!

Stayed at Desert Cypress RV & Motorhome Park.

Feb. 24, Sunday   Day 3      Phoenix

We traveled from Wickenburg to Phoenix, with me sitting on the couch behind Dean's seat.  My solution worked out well.

We didn't have enough time for a major destination, so we headed to Scottsdale to an Indian museum I'd been told was good.  The Huhugam Ki Museum has very few exhibits, and it is free, but not worth the trip.  There are some old pictures, a few pieces of Indian art, a few pieces of jewelry, and a few sentences of peoples' memories.  We both got the idea that their history has been lost, and they are trying to resurrect it.

We stopped at their Arizona Casino, hoping to find Indian tacos.  They didn't have those, but they had a great menu, low prices, delicious food, and I don't have to cook dinner tonight because there were so many leftovers.  I would highly recommend their Willows Restaurant.
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Wendy

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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 11:05:14 AM »
QUARTZSITE !  Ok, you want serious suggestions.

Salton Sea. Lots of birds. Interesting 50s So Cal history. Geothermal power plants at the south end. Nifty mud pots.

Anza Borrego Desert State Park. Spectacular and it's just getting to flower season. The metal sculptures around Borrego Springs are great. Pick up a map at the Chamber of Commerce. Lots of interesting drives in the area. Run up the hill to Julian for pie.

Phoenix. It's baseball spring season. Who could ask for anything more?

If you were going to be in Yuma next weekend (3/8, 3/9), it's the Yuma Lettuce Festival. Lots of interesting about the agriculture in the area and some good eating, too. And there's the Yuma Marine Corps base air show on 3/9. It's fascinating to run around the area seeing the crops and how quickly they turn them over. Mittry is another good birding spot near Yuma.

North of Phoenix is McDowell park, a county park with a campground with hookups. Very nice spot.

How long will you be in Phoenix? We'll be there the 14th. Yuma until then.
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 11:14:27 AM »
Forgot Tucson. Haven't you been there before ? If not, Sonora Desert Museum absolute must see. Davis-Mothan air museum, especially the boneyard tour. Saguaro National Monument (or is it a Park?).

Wendy
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 11:33:55 AM »
Hi Linda, we are in Apache Junction, AZ just east of Phoenix at the moment and will be heading to Palm Springs this coming Friday.  Here are some suggestions for both the Phoenix and Tucson area:

Phoenix:
  • Heard Museum which is the home of Native American artifacts and art.  This is very nice.  We were there a couple of years ago
  • Visit Tequilla Flats
  • Drive the Apache Trail 75 mile loop leaving Apache Junction, going up a very nice 25 mile dirt road to Roosevelt Dam, onto to Globe and then back to Apache Junction
  • We are staying at Shiprock RV, very-very nice, friendly, small and EXPENSIVE.  ;D
  • Gilbert's Riparian Preserve.  Wheelchair accessible lots of small wildlife
  • Organ Stop pizza.  You get pizza and a show with a Wurlitzer of 6,000pipes....great fun!
Tucson:
  • Kit Observatory south of Tucson
  • "Sonora Living Natural Museum" lots of raptors in flight, Javalinas, butterfly walk in facility, all sorts of animals and wheelchair accessible....excellent (I may have the name wrong)
  • Saguaro National Park
  • A nice electric/water RV park is the one the RVForum uses for their New Years Rally: Catalina State Park.  Excellent, big sites, huge saguaro, birds and shopping very near.
Have fun!
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 12:06:01 PM »
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Kit Observatory south of Tucson

Kitt Peak is west of Tucson, an easy day trip and worth a visit.

There's also the Whipple Observatory south of Tucson near Amado.  While down there stop in Tubac, a popular shopping experience.

The Pima Air and Space museum is a must see if you like aircraft.  It takes at least a day to visit, and a second day if you take the Davis-Monthan bus tour.

The only park we stay at in Tucson (other than Catalina SP) is Mission View, south of I-10 and just east of I-19.  Just a short distance from the mission just east of of I-19.  It's on Indian land so no taxes.  Large, level sites.
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2013, 03:07:00 PM »
The Cactus Fly-in is this weekend at the Casa Grande Airport.  Lots of vintage aircraft to see and enjoy.  Casa Grande National Ruins (actually located in Coolidge, AZ) are interesting and IMO worth the trip.  I visited for the first time yesterday.  The Titan Missle Museum in Sahaurita is also interesting. 

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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2013, 03:49:26 PM »
Tucson - An absolute must is the Sonoran Desert Museum.

Anza Borrego - food!  Pablito's Mexican restaurant has WONDERFUL traditional shrimp cocktails.  Terry B. got me hooked on them!  These are not at all like our Norte Americano shrimp cocktails.  If you like avocados and shrimp you'll love them.  One of these and a cheese quesadilla is more than enough to fill you at dinner.

We stayed at The Springs at Borrego Springs.  It's pricey but a nice environment.  We also checked out the campground at the state park.  It looks okay and has 30 amp only.  Ask Barb about it because they stayed there.  The others boondocked at Pegleg Pete's which you pass on the way into town from the east.

We had never been to Julian and it's a cute little town with lots of interesting shops.  Even I, the non-shopper, found something to buy!  We found out later that we missed where the locals go for the best apple pie.  Also, the restrooms behind the Chamber of Commerce are 25 cents or get a token inside at the Chamber.

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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2013, 03:56:25 PM »
We stay at the Anza Borrego state park campground every fall for a month. It's a nice campground. Nothing fancy but very peaceful and full hookups (30 amp).  And it's half-price with a California State Park Disabled card. If you stay there, be sure to explore the old resort area nearby. Don't know about the restaurant there (Red Ocotillo) but the menu looked ok. We like Jilbertos for fast food Mexican. I am in love with their pickled carrots.
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2013, 05:08:36 PM »
Lots of good ideas there. In Tucson, we stay at Desert Trails RV Park, west of the Tucson Mountains, north of Ajo Highway. Call first, it may be full. We just left there today for Catalina State Park. They now have a reservation system, which the host told us can create difficulties for drop-ins. Some folks have to move from site to site virtually every day, because there are no sites that aren't subject to reservations. The place looks pretty full just now. And beautiful!

The Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum is our top attraction on the west side, and not far from it is the west unit of Saguaro National Park. We love the video in the Park's theater, and just hiking around. Some mentioned the Pima Air and Space Museum, which is great. Last I checked (a year ago) you can get a combination ticket for there and the missile silo, which is a ways south of town off of I-19. (Footnote: I-19 south of Tucson to the border is marked with kilometer signs, not miles. Go figure.)

Sabino Canyon is a fun park, on the northeast side of town in the Santa Catalina Mountains. There's a tram, but you can hike all you want up the valley by the creek. Very pretty. If you get a chance to drive down by Sierra Vista, you could visit and hike at Ramsey Canyon, a major wildlife preserve. A few years ago, we stayed at Tombstone Territories RV Park, a ways north of town, which was fine, not sure how it is now.

Phoenix is a major shopping town. I won't even get started! We do like Heard Museum, and it's as authentic as they get. Since you are in the east valley, you can save some driving hassle by taking the train, which stops right by the Museum. Reasonably inexpensive and a good ride. Ticket machines are on the platforms, be sure to get one. We used to drive in to the station east of McClintock Drive, the tracks run down Apache Blvd. at that point as I recall. They have maps and info online. There's lots more but this is long already.

Have a great trip!







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Dean & Linda Stock

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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2013, 11:00:24 PM »
I realized that my disappointment in Hassayampa overshadowed the fun I had titling my hummingbird pictures.  So, I decided to share the fun.

Picture 1 -- "The Thinkers"

Picture 2 -- "May I Please Join You?"

Picture 3 -- "Ladies First"
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2013, 11:23:43 PM »
Feb. 25, Monday   Day 4      Phoenix

Arizona built its first permanent capitol in 1901, when it was just a territory.  Arizona is the 48th state, admitted in 1812.  The capitol is made of stone, and it has lots of windows (imagine Phoenix in the summer!)  (Picture 1) It has a copper dome because Arizona produced lots of copper.  Winged Victory perches atop and is also a wind vane which moves around and faces the wind.  I wish we had seen it 2 days ago with the 16 mph winds.  Today was calm.  The cost was $135,000, ($4-5 per square foot).  When they built the new Senate and House, it cost $200 per sq. ft.9

When they built the new capitol, they and made the original into The Arizona Capitol Museum.  It sits between the current Senate and House, with the Governor's Office in a building at the rear.   The governor functioned out of the old capitol until 1975.

They give tours at 10 and 2, so we went to the 10:00 tour.  Our guide took us to the new Senate building first. (Picture 2).  This picture of a senator's desk shows the party symbol,  an elephant, so this senator was a republican.  Democrats made major strides this last election and are now only down 4 seats, 17 Republicans to 13 Dems.  If a senator wants to speak, she/he presses the yellow RTS button (request to speak).  When the leader gives the OK, he turns on your mike.  Everyone's name comes up yellow when it's time to vote (yellow means "abstain"), and the senator can change by pressing the red (nay) or green (yea) button.  Senators are elected for only 2 years.

Senators and representatives only make $24,000 per year.   According to the Arizona Constitution, their pay can only be raised by a vote from the people, and we were told that it's put up on the ballot every year and rejected every year.  Both senators and representatives may only serve 8 years, solo or combined.  The governor has a 4-year term, and he also leaves after 8 years.  All elective offices may be recalled, including judges  Taft, who was President when Arizona petitioned for statehood, was a retired judge, and later a Supreme Court justice.  He said Arizona couldn't enter the U S unless they got rid of the recall, so they passed a law banning the recall.  Less than a year later, they reinstated it, when they wrote their state constitution.

The legislature meets every year from mid-January to April for 100 days.  The governor or they themselves can call a special session, and in reality, they usually meet 5-6 months a year.  Out-of-towners receive a per diem for housing, and there is no governor's mansion.  They also economize by not having a lieutenant governor.  If the governor dies, the secretary of state takes over.

We returned to the museum and saw the Old House Chamber, which they have tried to restore to the original by using old photos for guidance. (Picture 3)  There are 60 House members.  The lamps pointing upward were gas lights.  The ones facing down were fed by electricity.  The state provided the desks, but each representative had to bring his own chair. (Picture 4)  The seating and size of the desks reminded me of a crowded classroom.

The lobby had a mosaic state seal in the floor. (Picture 5) It was assembled in Ohio and was supposed to have the "5 C's" (Climate (sun), Cotton, Copper, Cow, Citrus).  However, there are several problem areas--no cow, no citrus tree, and the copper miner shouldn't have cuffs on his pants.  The motto "Ditat deus" means God enriches.

The lobby had a display honoring the Buffalo Soldiers.  I learned that they were called "buffalo" not from the area they patrolled, which was what I thought. They were called "buffalo" because the "nappiness" of their hair reminded the army of the hair on buffalo.

Next, we visited the old governor's office (Picture 6), which did have electricity.  The figure is modeled after George W P Hunt, who was the governor 7 times.  He's be voted in, voted out, then in, then out.....He sounds like he was very well-heeled.  He was the ambassador to Siam, and he toured Egypt.  He arranged to have a pyramid-shaped tomb built at the site where the zoo is, and he, his wife, his daughter, and his daughter's family are all buried there.  If you look carefully, you can see a wire hanging down from the chandelier.  If the governor wanted to use the lamp or fan, he had to plug into the chandelier.

Picture 7 is a wall hanging of the state seal as it was designed, with the cow and the citrus tree.

At the end of the tour as the guide bade us farewell, one of the tour group said, "Aren't you going to show us the Merci Room?"  I'm so glad she spoke up.  Our guide left us there, and we discovered these stars.  (Picture 8)  Many French citizens had nothing after World War II, but they were very grateful to the Americans who liberated them.  To thank us, they painstakingly cut, colored, and sewed hand-crafted stars out of whatever materials they had available.  Hundreds of these stars with messages of thanks were sent to their American friends.

There were also gifts that were sent to Arizona from the Merci Gratitude Train.  The U. S. had instituted the Marshall Plan to help get Europe back on their feet.  A few years later, the French sent 49 wooden railroad cars that were 20' x 8'.  They were called Hommes 40 et Chevaux 8 because they could carry 40 men or 8 horses.  They had been used during WWII to transport troops.  Each state and the District of Columbia received one railroad car.  Citizens of France had donated gifts from the heart and family heirlooms--a wedding dress, war medals, an expensive but worn Peugot bike, and personal treasures.  They donated 52,000 items. When these wooden cars arrived in New York, they were put on flatbed railcars, and one was sent to each state.   In Arizona's car there were over 1700 items.

Staying at Phoenix Metro RV Park, $33/night, has everything, wonderful, we'd highly recommend it
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2013, 11:37:59 PM »
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QUARTZSITE !  Ok, you want serious suggestions.

You made Dean and I both laugh out loud with this one.


Salton Sea. Lots of birds. Interesting 50s So Cal history. Geothermal power plants at the south end. Nifty mud pots.

This is why I love the Forum.  I've been to Salton Sea 3-4 times, but I thought it was too dry and salty now, and stinky, too.  I'll have to check it out!
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Anza Borrego Desert State Park. Spectacular and it's just getting to flower season. The metal sculptures around Borrego Springs are great. Pick up a map at the Chamber of Commerce. Lots of interesting drives in the area. Run up the hill to Julian for pie.

It's been ten years since I was there, so the suggestion of stopping at the C of C is appreciated.

If you were going to be in Yuma next weekend (3/8, 3/9), it's the Yuma Lettuce Festival. Lots of interesting about the agriculture in the area and some good eating, too. And there's the Yuma Marine Corps base air show on 3/9. It's fascinating to run around the area seeing the crops and how quickly they turn them over. Mittry is another good birding spot near Yuma.

Betty said she was going to the Lettuce Festival, so if we can get there on 3/7, which means an early exit from Tucson, we'll check it out.  We are definitely planning on seeing the T-Birds.  We went to the Blue Angels every year until they closed El Toro, and we've driven to see the T-Birds.  It's a priority for us; Dean gave up a NASCAR race here in Phoenix to be able to move along to Yuma for the Air Show.  Mittry is new to me.  Thanks.
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North of Phoenix is McDowell park, a county park with a campground with hookups. Very nice spot.

We've run out of time, but I'll add McDowell to my Arizona file and try it next time.

How long will you be in Phoenix? We'll be there the 14th. Yuma until then.

We may see you in Yuma.  We'll be there for sure on the 9th, 10th, 11th, and probably the 12th.  Call me, and we'll get together.

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I tried something new and responded within your message.  We'll see if it works or not.  Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2013, 11:50:26 PM »
Forgot Tucson. Haven't you been there before ? If not, Sonora Desert Museum absolute must see. Davis-Mothan air museum, especially the boneyard tour. Saguaro National Monument (or is it a Park?).

Wendy

In our youth, we went to Tucson annually.  Then, along came kids, and we go back intermittently--usually the first weekend in February for the Gem and Mineral Show.  I agree about the SDM; it is spectacular and #1 on our list to see EVERY time.  Dean's asleep now, but I'll tell him about the David-Mothan air museum.  SNM is new to me, but I think I read about it somewhere (in relation to birding???).  I'll investigate that one.  Thanks for the tip!
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2013, 12:11:07 AM »
Hi Linda, we are in Apache Junction, AZ just east of Phoenix at the moment and will be heading to Palm Springs this coming Friday

When do you leave Palm Springs?  I figure we'll be there around Mar. 12 or 13.

Phoenix:
  • Heard Museum which is the home of Native American artifacts and art.  This is very nice.  We were there a couple of years ago
I so agree.  I think it is the best Native American museum in the U S.  I still have to finish my write-up about it.
   
  • Visit Tequilla Flats
Next time.  I should have done this Q & A before we left, and I was having so much fun at home that I didn't get it done.
   
  • Drive the Apache Trail 75 mile loop leaving Apache Junction, going up a very nice 25 mile dirt road to Roosevelt Dam, onto to Globe and then back to Apache Junction
We'll do it next time.  I put it in my Arizona file. 
   
  • We are staying at Shiprock RV, very-very nice, friendly, small and EXPENSIVE.  ;D
Everything in the Phoenix area is expensive, except the Art Museum.  I balked at $27.50 each at the World Wildlife Zoo.  I donate $100/year to the San Diego Zoo, but I hate to be ripped off, and $55 + extras was highway robbery.  I think I talked about the popcorn & coke combo at the movies--and I'm not talking a bucket of popcorn, just a "large" sack, at $13.75!
   
  • Gilbert's Riparian Preserve.  Wheelchair accessible lots of small wildlife
OUCH!  Missing this one hurts.  I am hungry for seeing wildlife--even a javelina.  I know we'll see them at Tucson.  We've put this in our Arizona file, and we'll definitely go next time.  It's new to me.
   
  • Organ Stop pizza.  You get pizza and a show with a Wurlitzer of 6,000pipes....great fun!
Next time for sure.
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  • Kit Observatory south of Tucson
I actually checked out this one because I want to do their star-gazing, but at this time of year I'd turn into a popsicle--even if I were wearing "Nanook."
   
  • "Sonora Living Natural Museum" lots of raptors in flight, Javalinas, butterfly walk in facility, all sorts of animals and wheelchair accessible....excellent (I may have the name wrong)
Could it be the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum?  If so, it's my #1 place to visit again.  If not, let me know, and I'll try to find it.
   
  • Saguaro National Park
  • A nice electric/water RV park is the one the RVForum uses for their New Years Rally: Catalina State Park.  Excellent, big sites, huge saguaro, birds and shopping very near.
Catalina sounded great, but there are 2 problems.  The first was the killer--it's booked solid.  I've been checking and checking.  The second is a $15 daily fee for the Jeep. 
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We are.  I hope you are, too.  Are you doing a Palm Springs log?
Marsha~
Happy trails to you until we meet again, Linda
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2013, 12:18:05 AM »

The Pima Air and Space museum is a must see if you like aircraft.  It takes at least a day to visit, and a second day if you take the Davis-Monthan bus tour.
Dean has done the Pima site, but I think Davis-Monthan is new to him.  (He's asleep now, but I'll pass this on to him.)
The only park we stay at in Tucson (other than Catalina SP) is Mission View, south of I-10 and just east of I-19.  Just a short distance from the mission just east of of I-19.  It's on Indian land so no taxes.  Large, level sites.
Thanks, good to know.  I chose Desert Trails because we stayed there before and we loved its natural setting.  Mission View was my #2, and it cost a little more, even though they don't have taxes.  It's nice to have MV be a known now, too, and I'll add that to my notes. 
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2013, 12:27:18 AM »
The Cactus Fly-in is this weekend at the Casa Grande Airport.  Lots of vintage aircraft to see and enjoy.  Casa Grande National Ruins (actually located in Coolidge, AZ) are interesting and IMO worth the trip.  I visited for the first time yesterday.  The Titan Missle Museum in Sahaurita is also interesting.

I knew of none of these.  Thanks so much.  I will be looking for more info on all.  Dean awakened and got excited when I mentioned the Titan Missile Museum.  He recently visited a missile silo, and this is a biggie.  Thanks.
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2013, 12:41:53 AM »

Anza Borrego - food!  Pablito's Mexican restaurant has WONDERFUL traditional shrimp cocktails.  Terry B. got me hooked on them!  These are not at all like our Norte Americano shrimp cocktails.  If you like avocados and shrimp you'll love them.  One of these and a cheese quesadilla is more than enough to fill you at dinner.
I'm up for it!  We'll definitely do it.  Avocados & shrimp--I love them and Dean hates both.  Any second choice suggestions for him?

We stayed at The Springs at Borrego Springs.  It's pricey but a nice environment.  We also checked out the campground at the state park.  It looks okay and has 30 amp only.  Ask Barb about it because they stayed there.  The others boondocked at Pegleg Pete's which you pass on the way into town from the east.
I don't like any of the choices.  Dean wants 50 amps, so we'll probably end up at The Springs.  I checked it out before we left home, and I did contact them.  I remember gagging at the price.  Dean doesn't like to reserve, but I know we are going to be there at their peak.  We may end up boondocking out of necessity. 
We found out later that we missed where the locals go for the best apple pie. 
So where is it that the locals go for the best apple pie?

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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2013, 12:44:09 AM »
We stay at the Anza Borrego state park campground every fall for a month. It's a nice campground. Nothing fancy but very peaceful and full hookups (30 amp).  And it's half-price with a California State Park Disabled card. If you stay there, be sure to explore the old resort area nearby. Don't know about the restaurant there (Red Ocotillo) but the menu looked ok. We like Jilbertos for fast food Mexican. I am in love with their pickled carrots.
Thanks.  The state park sounds nice, as well as inexpensive.  You're a good friend to go through the files in your brain and give us so much info.
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2013, 12:59:31 AM »
In Tucson, we stay at Desert Trails RV Park, west of the Tucson Mountains, north of Ajo Highway. Call first, it may be full. We just left there today for Catalina State Park. They now have a reservation system, which the host told us can create difficulties for drop-ins. Some folks have to move from site to site virtually every day, because there are no sites that aren't subject to reservations. The place looks pretty full just now. And beautiful!
Thanks for the heads up!  We made reservations today for Desert Trails for our whole time in Tucson.  We tried for reservations at CSP 2 months ago, and they were full.  It's good to know that it's worth making the reservation way in advance.

Sabino Canyon is a fun park, on the northeast side of town in the Santa Catalina Mountains.  If you get a chance to drive down by Sierra Vista, you could visit and hike at Ramsey Canyon, a major wildlife preserve. A few years ago, we stayed at Tombstone Territories RV Park, a ways north of town, which was fine, not sure how it is now.
We are looking forward to Sabino Canyon; it's new to us.  We love Ramsey Canyon.  We stayed 2 nights at the Ramsey Canyon B & B, right next to the preserve, and it was heaven on Earth.  We went in August, and while it was 125 in Quartzsite (the Armpit of the Earth), it was a nice 80 in Ramsey Canyon.  We saw a bear within 150 feet of our B & B; Dean and our daughter encountered a dancing fawn and a doe on the trail; hummingbirds of every make and model abounded.    The lady who runs the B & B has won 100+ blue ribbons at the state fair for her pies, and we enjoyed every minute there.  We didn't take our RV, so it's good to know of an OK park.  Thanks for taking the time to respond, especially since you're a new friend. 
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2013, 01:58:43 AM »
Lots of good ideas there. In Tucson, we stay at Desert Trails RV Park, west of the Tucson Mountains, north of Ajo Highway.

Hi Pierat and all,

Ever stay at the Diamond Jim's next door to the desert trails?? We looked at both RV campgrounds and desided on the Diamond J's would be the place to stay as I can set up a scope of astronomy near the campsite. Best!
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2013, 04:22:28 AM »
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Arizona built its first permanent capitol in 1901, when it was just a territory.  Arizona is the 48th state, admitted in 1812.  The capitol is made of stone, and it has lots of windows (imagine Phoenix in the summer!)  (Picture 1) It has a copper dome because Arizona produced lots of copper.

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Winged Victory perches atop and is also a wind vane which moves around and faces the wind.  I wish we had seen it 2 days ago with the 16 mph winds.  Today was calm.  The cost was $135,000, ($4-5 per square foot).  When they built the new Senate and House, it cost $200 per sq. ft.9

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When they built the new capitol, they and made the original into The Arizona Capitol Museum.  It sits between the current Senate and House, with the Governor's Office in a building at the rear.   The governor functioned out of the old capitol until 1975.

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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2013, 12:03:34 PM »
Linda, lets plan to get together.  We'll be there until March 16th and will be staying at Emerald Desert RV Resort.  I'll email you with my cell phone number.

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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2013, 07:37:28 PM »
In reply to camperAL: Yes, we stayed at Diamond J RV Park (Justin's) about three years ago, before we had been to Desert Trails (it was full when we called). We did not care for the service, attitude or physical facilities. For example, when I went to plug in the 50 amp cable, I found there was no faceplate on that part of the pedestal -- just a socket and wires. I had all sorts of difficulty getting the lady in charge to give us another spot (I believe she's Justin's wife).

FYI, Justin used to own Desert Trails, then sold it to Pericles Wyatt, an Englishman. Justin then spent years building Diamond J, according to his explanation at a meeting, against great difficulty with various regulations. Ever since, we've wintered at Desert Trails, where Pericles is an excellent host and park operator -- I can't say enough good things. (BTW, if you're interested, try putting his name into Wikipedia. Unusual stories there.)

Linda - Glad it helped. BTW, we made our reservations at Catalina State Park about three weeks ahead of time, for a 50-amp spot, eight days. There seem to be a couple of empty spots tonight -- maybe keep trying if you still are interested.
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Re: Arizona with the Stocks in Feb.-March, 2013
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2013, 10:50:11 PM »
Feb. 26   Day 5      Phoenix, AZ

Today we visited the Heard Museum, which I believe is the premier museum of  Southwest Indians in the United States.  It is truly amazing, and I would rate it as a "Don't Miss."  Their exhibits in almost every area cover a wide expanse of time, often from the first century to present.

 I used to teach about Southwest Indians, and I did quite a lot of research so I would be knowledgeable.  I also visited every museum I could find, an Indian boarding school in Colorado, and two reservations.  I've attended many powwows and performances.  But.....I am sure my visit to the Heard doubled my knowledge. 

They had exhibits of cultural objects, traditions, foods, Barry Goldwater's amazing katsina dolls, baskets, pottery, and art. There was a display of the history of the foods we got from the Southwestern Native Americans, especially chocolate, cochineal, and chilis.  They had a separate area for each of 21 tribal groups and its culture.  They had showcases about how Native cultures experienced warfare, the migration of the pioneers and how much they helped them stay alive, their forced relocation, and how their language and traditions were virtually erased. 

The powerful and moving exhibit, "Remembering Our Indian School Days: The Boarding School Experience" showed the emotions parents and students felt as their children were removed from their homes, their hair cut, and how they were stripped of their culture and language.  However, they showed both sides of the coin, and how as conditions improved over time, many of the Indian-school alumni were sad to see the schools closed.  However, a few do remain open, and there is fierce competition to get admitted to them.  Some parents had such positive experiences that they want their children to attend the same school.

I learned a lot about the Navajo code talkers and that while the Japanese couldn't understand their language, they were not able to function in Europe because they could understand.  I learned that other tribes did code talking in Europe, but we never hear about them.

We saw beautiful rugs that told stories. (Pictures 1,2,3)   These were all made within the last 20 years.  They were gorgeous, if not traditional.

We ate lunch at their wonderful restaurant--another "Don't Miss."  I had delicious chicken hard tacos and a delightful salad accompanied it.  Everything that passed by looked S-O-O-O good, and everyone was saying, "M-m-m-good."

We got there early, and we left when they closed--it was that great!  There aren't many pictures because everything is beautifully displayed in cases and the cases reflected light.  The explanation signs very interesting, and they used audio programs, too.

 We are having a great time in Phoenix.

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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2013, 01:23:17 AM »
Feb 27      Day 6      Phoenix, AZ

The Phoenix Museum of Art is in a gorgeous building.  As we entered, they confiscated our water bottles to be returned at the end of our visit.

After we paid the senior admission of $15 each, we saw 30,000 black moths, an exhibit titled "Black Cloud."  There were 30 different varieties with 4 different sizes of each and 3 different texture of paper, each individually crafted.  39 installers (of which 34 were volunteers) used over 47 pounds of putty to attach the moths to the walls and ceiling.  It took 11 days and over 553 hours to install them all.  While I realized it was a major project, it was kind of weird and not attractive to me.  As I looked around the first gallery, I saw this immense burned wood mobile (Picture 2), also very labor-intensive, and not appealing to me.  I thought, "This is going to be a quick trip.  What else can we do today?"

As we stepped off the elevator onto the 2nd floor, a door to my mind opened, too.  On the wall was a digital projection, a form of art new to me.  There was a windblown tree in constant motion as it changed with the seasons.  It was 3-D, and it created the illusion of depth on a flat wall. (Pictures 3 & 4)  Very interesting--almost hypnotizing!

Another really interesting display was this glass and mirrored-glass table with hand-blown mirrored glass objects. (Picture 5)  There were many fine paintings, but they had the "no photo" sign.  I began looking forward to the next artworks.

We ate lunch at the Palette Restaurant in the museum.  We heard from employees about the wonderful  suggestion of their Reuben sandwich and the macaroni and choose with truffles.  I would never have ordered the mac without their raves, and both lived up to their billing.  Mine came with a great sweet potato salad.  I quizzed the waiter about the ingredients, and he provided me with a great recipe card.  I enjoyed it so much that I'll serve it at our family's Easter gathering.   I loved the mango iced tea, too.  It was a bit expensive, but that's always true at an art museum. 

I liked this acrylic depicting the celebration of Lent in Mexico when the rural areas reenact the stages of the Passion of Christ.  Picture 6, "Our Lord, the One Who is Flayed," combines images of Christ and the Mexican deity Xipe Totec, the god of renewal and greenery.  I can see lots of Catholic symbols, as well as the native religious traditions.

I am not knowledgeable about art, but the only artist I recognized was Gilbert Stuart, who painted this oil of George Washington in 1796.  This picture is used on the face of the one dollar bill.  Can you believe that he only charged $100 for a painting?  He made 110 paintings of Washington, based on 3 sittings.

In the last gallery, where I spent over 2 hours, we weren't allowed to take any pictures--not even of the explanatory sign, so I took notes.  All of the works were lent by Gary & Leslie Jones.  He had been in the marines in Northern China, and he took his discharge from the service in China, where he and his wife lived until the Communists took over in the 1960's.  After Mao's cultural revolution, much art and many historical artifacts were destroyed because they represented the Imperial Rule.  Mao wanted to purge old customs, habits, and ideas.  Art was allowed, but it was to depict workers in society, soldiers, peasants, children, the elderly, and marginalized ethnic groups.

After Mao's death in 1976. governmental policies changed.   Mr. Jones was asked to lecture in China  and started making yearly trips, then moved there permanently in the 80's.  Most artists worked in dark, small  basements.  A visitor needed "guanxi", an introduction to the artist.  After much talk, the artist would bring out a few paintings, then more and more, each a step up in quality.  After much convincing, sometimes he would be allowed to purchase one or two pieces, though the artists really didn't charge much or want to sell them.  Just having their art appreciated was enough payment.

The motivation of an incredible painting called "Crying in Silence" was the Japanese invasion of China in 1937.  The Japanese followed the Yangtze River up to Nanking, a big city, where they overwhelmed the Chinese soldiers, who fled further up the Yangtze.  The Japanese then killed 300,000 men, women, and children who lived in Nanking.  This event was only revealed when the war crimes trial took place in 1946.  In the emotionally-charged painting, a nude  woman's body composed of skulls was kneeling with her head bowed, on a field of skulls to commemorate the slaughter at Nanking.

From 1949 to 1988, no art was exhibited in China.  In the first art exhibit after the Cultural Revolution, Jiang Gufang displayed nude women.  One lady objected, came in and made a scene, and shot 2 shots into the ceiling, closing the exhibition.

In the 1980's, when the Jones went to China to live, there were no Chinese art galleries.  Much of the art was in People's Liberation Army compounds and was forbidden to be seen by foreigners.  Most artists had other jobs and weren't trying to sell their art or make money from it.  They just did art for personal pleasure and to try to improve their skills.  At the Central Art Academy, there was standing room only when they used nude models--because it was the only room that was heated.

In May and June of 1989, Meng Luding and his students rushed to make a sculpture of Goddess  of Freedom and Light to be displayed in Tiananmen Square.  A photo of their sculpture was sent around the world.

One of the artists, Cheng Yuan, was motivated by his father, who was an art professor and committed suicide because of abuse by the Red Guard.  He was separated from his mother and sister when he was sent to a hog farm to work for 10 years.  When he was released at age 24, his mother tutored him and he got into the university.  He is now a professor of art.  He worked in a small studio at first with one small-wattage bulb.  However, Cheng Yuan made big paintings.  When he was told how beautiful his paintings were, he was so unused to praise that he was very perplexed.  He had a wonderful painting in this gallery.

The mother of one of the artists tried to down him in the kitchen sink because the family just couldn't feed another mouth.  His father saved him.  His art reflects many emotions.

I found the artists' personal stories as fascinating as their art.  China is now re-emerging as a cultural leader.  This exhibit was amazing.

Art galleries are Dean's least favorite venue, and 2-3 hours is  his limit; we spent almost 6 hours here.  When I asked Dean if he would recommend it, he responded, "Sure!"  That is equivalent to an A+.

We were so jazzed that we didn't want to quit having fun, so we went to Encanto Park.  Part 2 will be posted tomorrow.

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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2013, 10:06:16 PM »
Feb. 27 (Part 2)   Day 6      Phoenix

When we left the art museum, we drove over to Encanto Park, home of many skateboarders and waterfowl.  The skateboarders were pretty good, and two people were filming them. 

We saw lots of common waterfowl--Canadian geese and mallards.  I identified the Ring-necked Duck (Pictures 1 & 2).  And, I think the white/brown goose may be a Snow Goose or a Ross's Goose.  (Pictures 3 & 4). 

I waited an extra day to post this part of my log, hoping my far more knowledgeable birding friends might be able to identify, but now I have to show my ignorance of what Pictures 5, 6, and 7 are.  I got several different views of the white/beige duck, hoping it would be helpful.  I am also wondering what the irridescent green-headed black duck is in the rear of Picture 6.  Pictures 8 & 9 are also enigmas to me.  See, Wendy, I can't claim to be a "birder" until I can do better than 1.5 out of 6--that's only batting 250.

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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2013, 01:43:49 AM »
Feb. 28   Day 7      Phoenix AZ

Yesterday, we learned from Betty Brewer that the Thunderbirds are not performing at the Yuma Air Show on March 9.  That was driving our schedule, so we have now decided to spend another day in Phoenix.  We called Jan at Phoenix Metro, and she was kind enough to let us extend another day.  Desert Trails RV Resort in Tucson allowed us to delay our arrival by one day with no penalty.  I appreciate both parks being so kind to us.

Today, we headed out to the Desert Botanical Garden.  It rated an "A" grade.  Every kind of organ pipe cactus, saguaro, cholla, aloe vera, barrel cactus, ocotillo, prickly pear, palo verde, and creosote is represented in the garden.  Signage was excellent.

I couldn't believe that we saw a golden barrel cactus blooming so early, before spring. (Picture 1)  As we went along the paths, birds chirped loudly everywhere.  We were surprised to see them atop cacti.   I think the larger one is a curve-billed thrasher.  (Picture 2 & 3)  Don't they get stuck by the needles?

Usually prickly pear grow horizontally, and this was the tallest prickly pear we've ever seen.  (Picture 4)  And, they had PURPLE prickly pear. (Picture 5)  This boojum tree has to be the weirdest tree we've seen.  (Picture 6)

Getting good pictures was really difficult because of shadows.  This roadrunner entertained us at lunch at the garden's Patio Cafe. (Picture 7)  I had a delicious, fresh salad with sweet strawberries, jicama, and chicken.  I had the prickly pear iced tea, which was very mild.  The ground squirrels joined the roadrunner and us for lunch, and one inspected my pedicure. (Picture 8 and 9)  Several Gambel's quail joined the party.  The male's coloring is striking. (Pictures 10 & 11)  As we left, we saw one more new plant, the mammillaria (Picture 12).  I didn't have any idea how many varieties of desert plants there are.  We enjoyed our day, and would recommend this as a "Must See."   2 senior admissions were $30.

We met friends who live in Gilbert at the Macayo Depot Cantina for dinner.  My lobster and shrimp chimi was extraordinary, and everyone else raved about their food. Portions were generous, and I brought home half my dinner.  Our friends had orange margueritas, which they did not like.  We ordered the cheese crisps and guacamole.  The crispness of the tortillas was new to us and very good.  The cheese was too mild for Dean and me.
 
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[/center]You just need to ensure that each block of quoted text has the quote tags around it. The easiest way to do that is to highlight the block of text, then click the Insert quote icon (middle of the row, immediately above the smileys). With the text highlighted, you can also apply any of the other attributes, such as bold, italics, underline, font color, etc from the two rows of icons.

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