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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2014, 08:40:24 AM »
Kim, was this the couple that we met last August in Ouray that you and Christi were with?

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2014, 08:44:30 AM »
Yep, the very ones! Your folks got her and Christi their new career in the zombie movie!
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2014, 09:47:45 AM »
Yep, the very ones! Your folks got her and Christi their new career in the zombie movie!

Awesome.  They seemed like great people.

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #63 on: February 22, 2014, 07:12:51 AM »
FYI, I posted in a Astronomy thread, If anyone is interested I can bring my Telescope. It's big and bulky but has a auto GoTo  function and autotracking. If anyone would like to get together for some stargazing let me know and I will bring it!
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #64 on: February 22, 2014, 08:41:59 AM »
Bring it. They will come.  8)
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #65 on: February 22, 2014, 08:52:16 AM »
It is in the plan! John (Oscar Mike) is interested. One person is a good enough excuse for me!
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #66 on: February 22, 2014, 10:40:03 AM »
I feel sure Christi will be interested and I have never used a telescope for the stars so I am sure I could learn something as well.  8)
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2014, 12:06:36 PM »
I just received my copy of Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4 Wheel Drive Trails by Charles Wells. It has 60 maps of trails and such from easy to difficult. It might give me an idea of what to look for while in Moab, I'm hoping.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2014, 02:58:06 PM »
That's the book i have! It is awesome!
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #69 on: February 23, 2014, 06:52:46 AM »
That's the book i have! It is awesome!

I read through the book yesterday, and it is chocked full of good information. It was good to get a little trail protocol refresher course in the introduction too.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #70 on: February 23, 2014, 10:51:42 AM »
Another good resource is a website called Traildamage.com.  They list the trails by state and have a pretty good description as well as rating scale.  You can click on the scale and it will tell you about the criteria they use for rating the trails.

Granted it is subjective but I have found them to be fairly accurate to how I would have rated them.  But then again, I am not saying I am right either. ;D

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #71 on: February 23, 2014, 03:07:49 PM »
Another good resource is a website called Traildamage.com.  They list the trails by state and have a pretty good description as well as rating scale.  You can click on the scale and it will tell you about the criteria they use for rating the trails.

Granted it is subjective but I have found them to be fairly accurate to how I would have rated them.  But then again, I am not saying I am right either. ;D

Mike.

Thanks for the website, I will never ceased to be amazed at what exists for free on the interweb.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #72 on: February 27, 2014, 06:32:55 AM »
I was just wondering if the rally includes any "organized" trail rides and if so, which trails are being considered. I've got this new book and I was hoping that some of the trails everyone is interested in might be in the book.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2014, 08:01:46 AM »
I was just wondering if the rally includes any "organized" trail rides and if so, which trails are being considered. I've got this new book and I was hoping that some of the trails everyone is interested in might be in the book.

Define "organized". ;D

There is a discussion at the first of the rally on what trails and when people would like to do them throughout the week.  Suggestions are thrown out and discussed.  Keep in mind these are not set in stone as from day to day people may opt to do something else or another suggestion may arise.

Each evening at Happy Hour the days activities are reported on and each "next days" activities are generally solidified so there is a solid plan for the morning.  For off-roading trails we generally meet and line up at the road heading out of the RV Park @ around 9:00 for a driver's meeting to inform everyone exactly where we will be going just in case anyone gets separated from the group due to turns or lights, etc.

Keep in mind also that there are a ton of other things to do in Moab if you and your wife don't want to wheel every day.  Some of us do but some don't.  There are other groups that seem to be doing other things simultaneously with the off-roading for those that want to see other aspects of Moab.

The group activities are awesome as the people are what make them great, but if you don't want to do the things the groups are doing don't feel like you have to, you can take off by yourselves as well.

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #74 on: February 27, 2014, 08:05:56 AM »
Also, most of the trails that we run are in the Moab Off-Road Trails book and sometimes they may be "altered" a bit depending on time and/or recommendations.  There are several in the group that also attend the FMCA Four-Wheelers Rally (lucky buggers) the week prior and they get good ideas for trails that are incorporated into the RV Forum Rally.

Last year we did a great version of Behind the Rocks without all of the extreme hardcore obstacles.  Terry and Frank led the group based on a version that they did the week prior.  It was not listed in the book but they had mapped it out during the FMCA Rally the week earlier.

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2014, 09:10:55 AM »
Organized loosely defined: "not going out alone". I have matured enough to know not to go out alone in an area that I am unfamiliar with. Nor would I want to inhibit anyone's fun, if you know what I mean.
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« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2014, 10:02:04 AM »
I'm with ya Mike! I think we will be in good hands at the rally and am as excited as can be to learn from the members that do this stuff on a regular basis.

DW is leery about going on the trails, I guess I should not have shown her the You Tube videos of jeeps flopping. LOL  She will go at least once and most likely be out of the Jeep taking pictures as much as in the Jeep riding.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2014, 10:09:35 AM »
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I guess I should not have shown her the You Tube videos of jeeps flopping.

On the trails I've done that were led by Terry and/or Frank, that's not even remotely been a problem. Unless you're careless in your driving (in bad spots you generally have spotters to help), it takes more extreme trails to do that.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #78 on: February 27, 2014, 10:26:12 AM »
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    After a bad experience offroading in Quartzsite, where the trails were chewed up by UTV's, we showed up at the 2010 Moab Rally adamant that we were not going to do any offroading.  We went to the Sunday night Happy Hour, and were convinced to try the Monday run up Onion Creek and over the LaSalle Mountains.  At no point did we feel uncomfortable or at risk, and we were so impressed with how well maintained the trails were that we went on some type of trip every day while we were there.  Our favourite was going up via Gemini Bridge, hiking the bridges, then up until we hit the return via Long Creek Valley, where there is I'd say around a mile of switchback ending through a rock tunnel.  Taken slowly, coming down, it was a breeze!
    We saw normal sedans, mountain bikes, halftons with lawnchairs on the flatbed, and all sorts of not specially equipped vehicles.  All you really needed was a vehicle that had decent clearance.

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #79 on: February 27, 2014, 10:53:37 AM »
Don't worry about the trails, no one wants to see someone hurt or damage their Jeep.  The group does a wide range of various rated trails.  Some as easy as Onion Creek where a 2-wheel drive sedan could go, and some more difficult rated trails such as Hell's Revenge or Top of the World.  Even on the more difficult rated trails, a competent driver with a good spotter can get through with no body damage and have a great time pushing themselves and their Jeep a little.  Actually Wendy and Mike have a VW Beetle that they flat-tow and they routinely take it out on various easy rated trails.  There was one trail we did two years ago that I don't think was accurately rated as it should have been a moderate, but their little Beetle did great, only drug bottom a couple of times. ;)

At the Happy Hour discussions they are very forthcoming with information about the trails and want everyone to be comfortable with the trail choice(s).

I can also tell you from a fairly new member of the forum that the entire group will make you feel very welcomed regardless of whether you have Moab experience or not or any off-roading experience or not.  Our first time to the RV Forum rally was in 2010 and we were welcomed as if we had been long time friends.  Absolutely a fantastic group of people who want nothing more than for everyone to enjoy themselves and be safe.

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #80 on: February 27, 2014, 12:48:27 PM »
Hi Oscar Mike,

On the first evening of the rally we'll have a happy hour at which everyone introduces themselves.  After that we'll talk about who wants to do what during the week.  Volunteers are always welcome!  Jerry and I usually have an introductory walk in Arches the first day or two and then, depending on interest, we lead a group into Fiery Furnace later in the week.  We've hiked just about every trail in Arches and love it there so sometimes we take maybe just one more couple who want to do one of the trails but don't want to go alone.  Meanwhile, some people will be taking trail rides, some of the girls might want to have a shopping day, there might be a special excursion to some place interesting (other than a 4WD road), and there have even been years where some have gone horseback riding or rafting on the Colorado.  It all depends on who attends and what their interests are.  It's nice to alternate hiking/shopping/etc. on one day and a trail ride the next.  But sometimes Mother Nature intervenes.  If we have a hike or trail ride organized and get up in the morning to dark skies that might indicate flood waters in the gullies, then we cancel that event and do something else.  Or not!  Most newcomers like to take at least one day just to go sightseeing into Arches National Park (take a lunch and water because there are no facilities) and/or Canyonlands National Park (ditto).  So, organized plans are set in jello!

Our aim is just to have fun, camaraderie, and enjoy seeing what we can see.

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2014, 06:31:58 AM »
I am really looking forward to meeting everyone, and having some fun. It sounds like just the type of gathering that I will enjoy.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2014, 07:33:08 AM »
Check out this illustrated article in our forum Library on The Moab experience. It barely scratches the surface, but hopefully will whet your appetite for the real thing.
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« Reply #83 on: February 28, 2014, 09:04:54 AM »
Check out this illustrated article in our forum Library on The Moab experience. It barely scratches the surface, but hopefully will whet your appetite for the real thing.

Tom,
Thanks for posting that article, it was an interesting read. I've never been to Moab, but it is one of those places that I have wanted to visit for a very long time.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2014, 10:05:27 AM »
This information may be useful. Trails are rated on 2 scales. 1-5 and 1-10.

1. FMCA 4 WHEELERS
http://www.jeeptheusa.com/home/trail-difficulty-ratings

2. TRAIL DAMAGE
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/legend.php

3. STATE OF ARIZONA TRAIL RATINGS
 http://www.ultimate4x4concepts.com/Arizona_Trial_Ratings.html

The Red Rock 4 Wheelers paint the lines and flames on the trails during the Easter Jeep Safari. And maintain the trails all year long in the Moab area. They have a 1-10 trail rating. 

I hope this helps to give you a better understanding of what kind of equipment is needed for what kind of trail.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2014, 11:31:34 AM »
This information may be useful. Trails are rated on 2 scales. 1-5 and 1-10.

1. FMCA 4 WHEELERS
http://www.jeeptheusa.com/home/trail-difficulty-ratings

2. TRAIL DAMAGE
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/legend.php

3. STATE OF ARIZONA TRAIL RATINGS
 http://www.ultimate4x4concepts.com/Arizona_Trial_Ratings.html

The Red Rock 4 Wheelers paint the lines and flames on the trails during the Easter Jeep Safari. And maintain the trails all year long in the Moab area. They have a 1-10 trail rating. 

I hope this helps to give you a better understanding of what kind of equipment is needed for what kind of trail.

Barb,

Thanks for posting, that is very useful information. As a novice, I appreciate folks taking the time to help me (and others) along.

John
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #86 on: March 01, 2014, 03:17:19 AM »
We shortly will be hanging up the keys of our motorhome. When you get in the 80Th's there are other options to get rid of your retirement savings.
However we decided it would be a nice way of personally saying good bye to a lot of framily friends we got to know since we did join the RV forum group 19 years ago by making a last final trip.
Today we received confirmations from Portal, Bryce and Zion for our reservations. So please Ken & Ardra add us to the list of the Hop Skip and Moab list.
More details will follow and take note this trip will not be a final good bye our house will always be open for visitors.

chris & mimi

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #87 on: March 01, 2014, 06:49:54 AM »
We shortly will be hanging up the keys of our motorhome. When you get in the 80Th's there are other options to get rid of your retirement savings.
However we decided it would be a nice way of personally saying good bye to a lot of framily friends we got to know since we did join the RV forum group 19 years ago by making a last final trip.
Today we received confirmations from Portal, Bryce and Zion for our reservations. So please Ken & Ardra add us to the list of the Hop Skip and Moab list.
More details will follow and take note this trip will not be a final good bye our house will always be open for visitors.

chris & mimi

Sir, I look forward to meeting you. I just don't have the words that would properly express my admiration for you and yours.
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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #88 on: March 01, 2014, 03:53:00 PM »
Chris and Mimy - We are so very happy you will be joining us at all three locations and I'll add you to our Moab list.  But we truly are sorry you'll be hanging up the keys.  It's been a good run!  We have lots of good memories of our fun times together.

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Re: MOAB 2014 RV FORUM RALLY, MAY 11-17, 2014
« Reply #89 on: March 11, 2014, 07:21:57 PM »
We are @ Portal right now and they have two more of those casita monstrosities almost completed in addition to the two they already had.  They are now in sites 16 and 20 in addition to the two that were already in 21 and 24 along the southeastern perimeter.  WOW, they are huge.

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