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We stopped at several Walmart parking lots on our trip across country so far and felt just fine at each one except Kansas City. When we arrived it was 9pm and the parking lot had very few cars and no RV's. Within ten minutes of parking, a car parked two spaces in front of us and the woman looked really suspicious. She stayed in the car sitting up and kept looking over at our RV and when she saw me she would look back down. She was parked there looking suspicious the entire time. I just didn't feel comfortable because why did she have to park right in front of me way out at the far end of the parking lot all by ourselves.

Well, after about two hours I finally decided to drive off and find another Walmart about thirty miles down the road where we found about five other RV's parked.

Have you ever parked in a parking lot for the night and just didn't feel comfortable for some reason?
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 11:21:43 PM »
Not many, but had a few drug deals done right beside us (RV provided cover) plus an amorous couple who decided the parking space two along from us (in an otherwise-empty massive car park) was where they wanted to rock 'n roll.  ::)  That was quite interesting for the first 5 minutes, but became quite boring thereafter.

Only time I had to sit up until the wee small hours was in Thunder Bay, Canada where four inebriated teenagers had some jolly fun by running up & over the hoods, roofs & trunks of cars.  That was, until the parked-up refrigerated semi driver came out his truck & dealt with them appropriately.  ;D

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2013, 05:40:08 AM »
In my ten years of full timing I spent hundreds of days overnighting in a Walmart parking lot and never once did I feel unsafe. Yes I have seen drug deals in a Walmart parking lot, but I don't consider that a problem. Those people are not interested in me at all. I have seen people sitting is their car looking "suspicious", whatever that means. And in every case it turned out to be a Walmart employee taking a break or a spouse of a Walmart employee waiting for the partner.

I just can't believe that anyone would think "I am going to go commit a crime, I think I will go sit in a Walmart parking lot and look for someone to rob." Yeah, great idea. Walmart parking lots are well lit, usually busy, full of video surveillance cameras, and many have security guards. And in all the years I have been reading this forum I have never once read of someone being attacked, raped, robbed or murdered in a Walmart parking lot.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2013, 10:53:27 AM »
I just can't believe that anyone would think "I am going to go commit a crime, I think I will go sit in a Walmart parking lot and look for someone to rob." Yeah, great idea. Walmart parking lots are well lit, usually busy, full of video surveillance cameras, and many have security guards. And in all the years I have been reading this forum I have never once read of someone being attacked, raped, robbed or murdered in a Walmart parking lot.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2013, 11:46:31 AM »
We have done exactly what you did once on the south side of Indianapolis when we had a bunch of cruisers hanging out next to us around 10:00PM.


We drove over to Camping World in Greenwood and spent a relaxing night.


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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2013, 12:56:34 PM »
She stayed in the car sitting up and kept looking over at our RV and when she saw me she would look back down. She was parked there looking suspicious the entire time. I just didn't feel comfortable because why did she have to park right in front of me way out at the far end of the parking lot all by ourselves.

It's possible she was mentally unwell?

Where I live the local park has this unsettling "tradition" of people driving there and just parking their vehicles (cars or pickup trucks) and just sitting in them, even on nice days.  It creeps me out.  Get out, walk in the world, feel the breeze, smell the grass, see the river.  Walk.  Cars are for moving, not sitting in (unless you are a police officer on a stakeout, I guess).  If you want to sit in a vehicle, get an RV!   ;)

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Well, after about two hours I finally decided to drive off and find another Walmart about thirty miles down the road where we found about five other RV's parked.

Although you were probably most comfortable around other RVs and advanced your trip 30 mi anyway, maybe next time consider moving your RV to another section of the same parking lot; if the woman follows you there, then you know something weird is up.


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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2013, 01:14:14 PM »
Whenever we make Walmart stays, we always inquire directly to the manager not only asking permission, but if there is a preferred place to overnight.


We have been asked to reconsider overnighting due to hoodlum activity, and we take the managers' recommendation seriously. We too have driven another 25-30 miles late at night.


Advice if that situation repeats itself...
Make like you are calling the police, and focus on the license plate. Make sure the occupant sees your lips describing the vehicle, plate number, ect... maybe even a photo with your phone and make like you sent it.


Bet that situation resolves itself clearing the way to move elsewhere.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2013, 01:42:47 PM »
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Advice if that situation repeats itself...
Make like you are calling the police, and focus on the license plate. Make sure the occupant sees your lips describing the vehicle, plate number, ect... maybe even a photo with your phone and make like you sent it.

Great idea!...... :-\ ??? .....or...... you could just walk up to the car and say; "it's really none of my business what you are doing here, but I have a pretend picture of your car and license and pretended to send it to the police, so if you were going to shoot me, I hope I've scared you into moving on. 8)

Nah!!  I like the driving away idea better. ;) :D
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2013, 01:44:40 PM »
Great idea!...... :-\ ??? .....or...... you could just walk up to the car and say; "it's really none of my business what you are doing here, but I have a pretend picture of your car and license and pretended to send it to the police, so if you were going to shoot me, I hope I've scared you into moving on.

Now that's just being silly. ;D

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2013, 01:49:22 PM »
I like the idea of paying the local campground owner $30.00 or more and help put his children to collage or help towards his retirement. 

I can get a good nights sleep and ready for the next day......

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2013, 01:51:22 PM »
We like doing that too, and also sometimes like to accept Walmart's hospitality after spending hundreds of dollars with them. :)

Horses for courses (although perhaps a little off-topic).

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2013, 02:01:45 PM »
We stopped at a West Chicago Walmart and I was really tired. Right away I noticed that the parking lot was used by  groups of young people as a shortcut. They were coming and going in  large groups, talking loud and although they were doing nothing wrong I just was to nervous to get any rest. We continued on into Ohio and stayed at a rest stop.  I have never had a problem but that may have something to do with being careful.

Staying at Campgrounds are getting very expensive, I took the G-kids to Florida. We needed to stop 2 nights each way. KOA charged $44 to $58 for one night.  All I wanted was 30 Amp no other hook up. I wanted to arrive late and leave early.  I'm going to find a cheaper way to stop for the night.  There is a time for Walmart and a time to pay but it should not  be the same price as someone staying 24 hours.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2013, 02:13:46 PM »
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Great idea!...... :-\ ??? .....or...... you could just walk up to the car and say; "it's really none of my business what you are doing here, but I have a pretend picture of your car and license and pretended to send it to the police, so if you were going to shoot me, I hope I've scared you into moving on. 8)

Nah!!  I like the driving away idea better. ;) :D

Now that's just being silly. ;D
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2013, 02:20:05 PM »
I do not bad at irony too. ;)

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2013, 02:45:44 PM »
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I do not bad at irony too. ;)

or...  I don't do bad at irony, either :)

Strange Ironic, how we circle the barn in opposite directions yet arrive back at the same location :-\ ;)
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2013, 03:30:51 PM »
Now that's just being silly. ;D

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Silly is when you break out the dress up costumes and invite them in... wait... that might be an effective way to drive them off too!
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2013, 03:38:25 PM »
Over the years, I've pulled into a few parking lots or rest areas that "just didn't feel right". I just figured that's one of the advantages of having an RV with wheels, and headed on down the road to a more amenable location.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2013, 03:58:09 PM »
The key is keeping situational awareness by having your eyes open and utilizing your street smarts.  If you see something that makes you uncomfortable, then it's time to leave and go elsewhere.  Follow your instincts.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2013, 04:28:28 PM »
I had the pleasure (??) of serving in local county government during a protracted zoning struggle over a proposed new Wal-Mart. One of the big arguments against the new store was crime rates in Wal-Mart parking lots. Those against tend to cite articles like this one http://www.jrrobertssecurity.com/articles/wal-mart-parking-lot-crime.htm. Our local sheriff's department felt he would need a 20% increase in deputies to cover the increased coverage needed to handle WM incidents. The reality is probably that WM parking lot crime is not as prevalent as the antis would have us believe, but because they are 24 hour a day operations with limited security and lots of opportunity, they do attract unsavory people. In our case, the new WM was approved, and crime rates increased substantially in the area. The sheriff's budget has risen to accommodate his needs to react.

According to my leo neighbor, rvs in big box store parking lots make his job harder as people up to no good can use the large rvs and trucks parked in the lot overnight to hide behind. IMO, the above comments about situational awareness are appropriate. Campgrounds are probably safer, but if your goal is convenience and lower cost, it may be worth the slight additional risk. The decision to use parking lots is a personal one.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2013, 08:37:17 AM »
We stopped at several Walmart parking lots on our trip across country so far and felt just fine at each one except Kansas City. When we arrived it was 9pm and the parking lot had very few cars and no RV's. Within ten minutes of parking, a car parked two spaces in front of us and the woman looked really suspicious. She stayed in the car sitting up and kept looking over at our RV and when she saw me she would look back down. She was parked there looking suspicious the entire time. I just didn't feel comfortable because why did she have to park right in front of me way out at the far end of the parking lot all by ourselves.

Well, after about two hours I finally decided to drive off and find another Walmart about thirty miles down the road where we found about five other RV's parked.

Have you ever parked in a parking lot for the night and just didn't feel comfortable for some reason?

I usually keep an AK47 or AR15 in my RV and a .45 in the console beside me (I have a ccw) and I have yet to feel uncomfortable anywhere :)
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2013, 09:34:49 AM »
According to my leo neighbor, rvs in big box store parking lots make his job harder as people up to no good can use the large rvs and trucks parked in the lot overnight to hide behind. IMO, the above comments about situational awareness are appropriate. Campgrounds are probably safer, but if your goal is convenience and lower cost, it may be worth the slight additional risk. The decision to use parking lots is a personal one.

My LEO nephew sees it as just the opposite. He thinks the more occupied vehicles such as RV's in a parking lot, the lower the crime risk due to the additional eyeballs potentially witnessing the activities. One local police chief even made that point at a building permit hearing for our new Super Wally when an area campground owner tried get no RV parking included as a condition of the permit.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2013, 10:03:00 AM »
Maybe the woman, in the original post, was also an exhausted traveler. Maybe she parked nearby for the added safety of presumably normal people nearby.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2013, 10:27:38 AM »
gc1966,
I'm an NRA Life Member and support your right to be prepared to defend yourself. However, I'd be more comfortable camped next to you if you would leave the AK and AR in your gunsafe and bring a reliable pump shotgun instead. I don't think the bit of fiberglass, foam and veneer in the wall of my RV will stop a 7mm round. Your first shotgun round will have me wide awake so I can grab my shotgun and cover your back. Much prefer that to bleeding out in my queensize.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2013, 01:23:20 PM »
gc1966,
I'm an NRA Life Member and support your right to be prepared to defend yourself. However, I'd be more comfortable camped next to you if you would leave the AK and AR in your gunsafe and bring a reliable pump shotgun instead. I don't think the bit of fiberglass, foam and veneer in the wall of my RV will stop a 7mm round. Your first shotgun round will have me wide awake so I can grab my shotgun and cover your back. Much prefer that to bleeding out in my queensize.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2013, 01:34:52 PM »
Thinking back to the original post, has anyone considered the woman may not have bad intent but parked there for her own security thinking it would be safe close to a big RV than being isolated elsewhere in the parking lot.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2013, 02:55:24 PM »
Hi Josh

I think situational awareness is incredibly important and good for you for trusting your instincts and moving on when it didn't feel right
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2013, 08:50:36 PM »
As with anything if it don't fell right don't do it!
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2014, 11:33:05 PM »
I usually keep an AK47 or AR15 in my RV and a .45 in the console beside me (I have a ccw) and I have yet to feel uncomfortable anywhere :)

Thats great as long as you don't drive thru CA or NY or CO or IL and a few more I don't know of.  In fact, I was wondering what to do if I wanted to go into CA.  It is my understanding that having them unloaded and locked up is not good enough.  You are not allowed to have a "large capacity" magazine in your possition. And , of course, forget Canada or Mexico .

Believe it or not, this is one of my biggest concernes about going full time.  I have been legally carring concealed for 40 years.  I have only pulled my weapon twice, and never have had to discharge it.  Thats one of the reasons I like the 1911.  Both time I have pulled a gun, it had little effect, but when I cocked that hammer back the young men left the area.

BTW- I don't have a black rifle- I have a short barrel long mag-tube 12 gage.  I have often said that any perp will hear that sound a pump makes when loading a round, and if he has ANY brains, he will look somewhere else.

So do you just avoid some states?
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2014, 01:38:51 AM »
You said in 40 years, you have pulled your gun twice. Then, the odds are very good that you will not have to pull it in the next 10.
When you do and the young men leave the area, you can put it away and  leave also. I am not overly concerned with the gun laws because I do not plan on shooting anyone. If I do, it will be to stay alive. I will not shoot anyone in the defense of property. I have carried a gun for 21 years and will continue to do so. And, I will take it into any state I travel in. It will stay where it is now, in a cabinet by my door. The police have better things to do than searching an old fat man's fifth wheel.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2014, 07:19:34 AM »
Have you ever parked in a parking lot for the night and just didn't feel comfortable for some reason?

NO,, but I have pulled into a parking lot and decided, before I even shut the engine off.. that I wished to park elsewhere for the night.  And thus.. I did.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2014, 08:52:02 AM »
Ive had that feeling going into some bars back in the day...
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2014, 06:28:35 PM »
halfwright... I was stopped recently for turning right on red (after a complete stop), which I believe is legal.  What alarmed me about this stop was that after the police person returned from his car, he asked if I had my firearm on me.  There is NOTHING on my DL that says I have a CCW, so I can only guess that they have some sort of link between the two when a DL is called in.  It was one of the few times I was not carrying as I was going to a restricted area (School).  If I had one of my weapons, I would have told him at the beginning of the stop. The point is that if I had been in the RV and had been asked, I would not lie about the guns I have on board.  Just as I would not have them on board if I crossed into Canada.

As far as pulling a weapon, both times I did so because I feared for my Wife's and my lives.  One time I was shooting a wedding just north of 8 mile in Detroit.  We had to park on a side street as the Hall's lot was filled.  Tow young men came toward us (which caused me to had the camera case to my wife) and pulled out their switch blades making the big show of opening them up near their faces.  My answer to "wha you got in the case?" was to pull my weapon.  And frankly that why I have a pump shotgun in the rv.  Just the sound or racking that shell into the chamber is enough to scare anyone with sense,

As I am older and look much less able to defend my self now, I think the chance of having to draw my wepon is greater now then in the last 40 years

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2014, 08:45:11 PM »
  Both time I have pulled a gun, it had little effect, but when I cocked that hammer back the young men left the area.

Even better I just bought a snub nosed S&W 38 Special revolver with a lazer pointer.  Do you think that someone who has a lazer pointed at him might consider leaving the area - pronto?  With that gun the lazer is not really needed because you will be need to be real close to the target when you let a hollow point fly.  Noticed that our local Walmart lot is heavily populated with semi trucks on the weekends.  Then I figured out that is where the local drivers park when they are home for the weekend - but the trucks are empty.  Usually have a few RVs in the lot during the warm months but not much crime of that nature in this area.  The criminals are too busy making meth.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2014, 09:29:18 PM »
KC has both good areas and bad. I've lived here my whole life and there are some places I wouldn't hesitate staying over night and others I would'nt stay long in the daylight. A little discretion goes a long way.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2014, 07:44:20 AM »
I like the idea of paying the local campground owner $30.00 or more and help put his children to collage or help towards his retirement. 

I can get a good nights sleep and ready for the next day......

Jim

I agree. I can't imagine why anyone would "camp" at WM when campgrounds are available, excepting lack of money, taking a quick nap before resuming travel or perhaps during a public emergency such as flooding.

For those who are simply too cheap to cough up for a campground site... I shake my head in disbelief. All that money for an RV, then settling for a diminished experience. LOL Silly as refusing to buy gas for the RV.

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And in all the years I have been reading this forum I have never once read of someone being attacked, raped, robbed or murdered in a Walmart parking lot.

A quick link:

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2014, 08:04:52 AM »

A quick link:

http://www.jrrobertssecurity.com/articles/wal-mart-parking-lot-crime.htm

The story in your link reminds me of the quote of a famous bank robber.  "Why do you rob banks?  Because that's where the money is."  Same goes for Walmart.  Thousands of stores, huge parking lots and despite lots of cameras crime does happen there.  None of the stories in the link mentioned any bad things with people in RVs (not that I read anyway).  The author is shilling his Security Strategies business and I distrust people who throw out as facts things they don't bother to source.   
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2014, 08:53:19 AM »
Bill

I think you missed the point, although your remark holds some truth.  Dan was pointing out to Tom that his statement of he never read of anything bad happening in a Wallmart parking lot, does not hold water, as per incident.

We all make decisions in life, some good, and some bad.  I personally do not think staying in a parking lot for a night is a good decision.  I do not care who's lot you are staying in. 

I do not own a gun, I believe guns should not be banned, I am not a LEO, but I know many.  When in the service there were two types of fighters, the quick and the dead..my LEO friends and past military training said if you take out your weapon you use it to KILL.  I read a lot of bravado Of how many guns they own or the sound it makes, but what it alls comes down too is are you ready to use it to kill?

If you do use it and you are wrong(somebody lost, drunk, or stupid) you will never have to stay in a Wallmart, the state will give you a place to live.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2014, 08:59:45 AM »
The story in your link reminds me of the quote of a famous bank robber.  "Why do you rob banks?  Because that's where the money is."  Same goes for Walmart.  Thousands of stores, huge parking lots and despite lots of cameras crime does happen there.  None of the stories in the link mentioned any bad things with people in RVs (not that I read anyway).  The author is shilling his Security Strategies business and I distrust people who throw out as facts things they don't bother to source.

Personally, I'm all for your staying in WM parking lots. Have fun. I'll be over in the nicely landscaped state, Federal or privately owned campground birdwatching and enjoying the company of other campers while you decide whether you should pull your gun on the suspicious pair in the car that parked too close to you. LOL
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2014, 09:24:56 AM »
In my ten years of full timing I spent hundreds of nights overnighting in Walmart parking lots. Never once did I feel unsafe. Never once did I witness a crime. I did save thousands of dollars. I am still waiting for some kind of proof that Walmart parking lots are unsafe. I have never seen any statistics on crime in a Walmart parking lot.

I did have a big mean bruiser come after me in a campground in Arizona. I thought he was going to kill me because I yelled at his stupid pit bull running through my campsite. I feel safer in a Walmart parking lot. If the bruiser would have attacked me I would have had no witnesses, no security cameras, no security person to call. I would have been beat up with no recourse. No one would pull a stunt like that in a Walmart parking lot, and no one lets their pit bull run free in a Walmart parking lot.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2014, 10:56:02 AM »
Tom has a valid point. I don't recall hearing of an RV'er being murdered anywhere but a state or national park/forest/monument. I'm sure someone has, but I certainly can't remember hearing of anything happening in a Walmart or truckstop.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2014, 10:57:43 AM »
I am still waiting for some kind of proof that Walmart parking lots are unsafe. I have never seen any statistics on crime in a Walmart parking lot.

 I thought he was going to kill me because I yelled at his stupid pit bull running through my campsite.

Yeah? And I want proof the pit bull was stupid.

One nice thing about WalMart campers is that they serve a purpose: WM parking lot and building security... for free. Keeps my shopping prices lower and frees up sites at my preferred campgrounds. Thanks for a service well-rendered.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2014, 10:59:08 AM »
Tom has a valid point. I don't recall hearing of an RV'er being murdered anywhere but a state or national park/forest/monument. I'm sure someone has, but I certainly can't remember hearing of anything happening in a Walmart or truckstop.

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« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2014, 11:15:52 AM »
Yeah? And I want proof the pit bull was stupid.
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« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2014, 11:19:59 AM »
As I said, I don't recall any, but I was sure someone would.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2014, 11:28:23 AM »
Dan23 I'm guessing your talking about Williston ND.? Last summer? Woman shot in thigh? Turns out she shot herself and it's believed she was using drugs at the time.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2014, 11:45:40 AM »
Google "camper shot" and you get pages of hits on Albuquerque police shoot homeless camper in back, FBI investigating. Anyone fulltiming without a S&B home is homeless, per federal definition!
Now Google "RVer shot walmart" and you get pages of a Utah Walmart being sued by an RVer who had to shoot an intruder entering his RV. Facts are funny like that.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2014, 11:52:48 AM »
Not going to get personal here, but there are some members who just seem to lash out with sarcasm and rudeness to virtually any post to which they disagree.   It almost seems like any RV'er who doesn't do things exactly like they do, is a moron worthy of contempt.

I've stayed in a few Walmart lots in my lifetime.  No interesting stories to tell there.  In my professional life, Walmart was a huge client, and I spent countless hours in the 142 stores in my territory.   I don't think there is much crime against customers there  because the risks (security cameras, witnesses, armed customers), far outweigh the potential gains.  (Walmart customers are not generally the richest members of society).   The exception in my experience seems to be in areas with a significant non-resident, non-documented, cash-paid labor force.   These immigrants prey upon each other mercilessly, knowing they get paid in cash, and carry most of it in their wallet all the time. 

One point I'd like to contribute: being 'cheap' is not the ONLY reason to try to save some money.  Sure we dish out big money to buy into this game.  But for some of us, unexpected repair bills, sudden medical bills, or just the increasing costs of fuel and campsites can put us into the position of having to find ways to stretch our recreation budget, or else we have to park it and sit home.  I'll admit to being in that group.  I enjoy my RV immensely, however my finances have not fared as well as I had anticipated when I purchased the rig.  Saving money on fuel, stopping somewhere for a free night now and then, buying off-brand parts from the internet, any way I can save a buck, I'm going to do it.  Don't appreciate being called cheap though.  Would I like the luxury of always staying in a nicely landscaped state, Federal or privately owned campground every single night of every single trip?  Sure I would!   Would I want to be parked next to someone who thinks they are better than I am in every way because I spent the previous night at Walmart?  No I would not.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2014, 12:09:04 PM »
 Google "murdered camper" and most results are of people murdered in parks and such, the Albuquerque police shooting and apparently a Beatrice Camper is a murderess. Didn't see Walmart in the first three pages of results. With my quick unscientific study I have determined. You shouldn't camp in Albuquerque, or state and national parks Walmarts and CG's seem to be safe.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2014, 12:41:47 PM »
Personally, I'm all for your staying in WM parking lots. Have fun. I'll be over in the nicely landscaped state, Federal or privately owned campground birdwatching and enjoying the company of other campers while you decide whether you should pull your gun on the suspicious pair in the car that parked too close to you. LOL

Getting a bit personal aren't you?  I only referred the link you posted and wanted to say that it really had nothing to do with RVs staying in WM lots, only how many crimes are committed in them.  You must be from an area where all those beautiful state, federal and private campgrounds abound aplenty.  In the places I have lived, it is easier to find a Walmart but I myself have never stayed in one (yet) but would not hesitate depending on location and a need to stop overnight.  And yes, I do carry a gun but that is for another thread which has already been covered numerous times.  It always ends with hard feelings seems.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2014, 12:43:56 PM »
Not going to get personal here, but there are some members who just seem to lash out with sarcasm and rudeness to virtually any post to which they disagree.   It almost seems like any RV'er who doesn't do things exactly like they do, is a moron worthy of contempt.

I've stayed in a few Walmart lots in my lifetime.  No interesting stories to tell there.  In my professional life, Walmart was a huge client, and I spent countless hours in the 142 stores in my territory.   I don't think there is much crime against customers there  because the risks (security cameras, witnesses, armed customers), far outweigh the potential gains.  (Walmart customers are not generally the richest members of society).   The exception in my experience seems to be in areas with a significant non-resident, non-documented, cash-paid labor force.   These immigrants prey upon each other mercilessly, knowing they get paid in cash, and carry most of it in their wallet all the time. 

One point I'd like to contribute: being 'cheap' is not the ONLY reason to try to save some money.  Sure we dish out big money to buy into this game.  But for some of us, unexpected repair bills, sudden medical bills, or just the increasing costs of fuel and campsites can put us into the position of having to find ways to stretch our recreation budget, or else we have to park it and sit home.  I'll admit to being in that group.  I enjoy my RV immensely, however my finances have not fared as well as I had anticipated when I purchased the rig.  Saving money on fuel, stopping somewhere for a free night now and then, buying off-brand parts from the internet, any way I can save a buck, I'm going to do it.  Don't appreciate being called cheap though.  Would I like the luxury of always staying in a nicely landscaped state, Federal or privately owned campground every single night of every single trip?  Sure I would!   Would I want to be parked next to someone who thinks they are better than I am in every way because I spent the previous night at Walmart?  No I would not.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2014, 12:50:21 PM »
The WM security in Williston might differ.

Most Walmarts in the Bakken (western ND) prohibit overnight parking by RVs because the extreme housing shortage resulted in their parking lots turning into full fledged campgrounds 24/7.  It was completely understandable they had to prohibit overnighting.  Man you surely can come up with better examples - give it another try.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2014, 04:36:04 PM »

For those who are simply too cheap to cough up for a campground site... I shake my head in disbelief. All that money for an RV, then settling for a diminished experience. LOL Silly as refusing to buy gas for the RV.

Dan,
You're really painting an unrealistic picture.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I presume the majority of us use Walmart 'en-route' to our destinations. i.e. a place to purchase needed supplies and sleep for the night before moving on to where we're actually going. I find this no more of a "diminished" experience than paying $30+ for a private site I will not hook up to, nor utilize amenities, nor stroll their beautiful surroundings. If you think of it as park, eat, sleep, move-on, you might realize that is unwise to spend money foolishly.
Also, have you ever tried to get a reservation at a private campground on the weekend for a one-nighter? If you can get in, they'll put you in a spot aesthetically not much different than a Walmart; the primary difference being crushed gravel rather than blacktop. So much for the experience.
As to the other issue... unsupported Walmart parking lot killings ... sounds a bit strawman to me.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2014, 04:58:02 PM »
I think I'll regret this post..

 There will always be freeloaders and always advantage takers and then there are folks who like to support  the RV camping industry. Count me in... I will support the campground every time.

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« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2014, 05:14:19 PM »
I think I'll regret this post..

 There will always be freeloaders and always advantage takers and then there are folks who like to support  the RV camping industry. Count me in... I will support the campground every time.

 Hit me...

Carson, I respect your opinion although "freeloaders" is a bit unfair.
We ALL support the RV camping industry.

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« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2014, 05:28:25 PM »
Thanks for the last sentence, Bob. It just proves the adage "Differing strokes for differing folks.

  Let's keep the ball rolling, even though I hung up my keys a while ago... Old age sucks.


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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2014, 05:34:54 PM »
I agree. I can't imagine why anyone would "camp" at WM when campgrounds are available, excepting lack of money, taking a quick nap before resuming travel or perhaps during a public emergency such as flooding.

Security at many campgrounds is an illusion,, At Wal*mart at least there is no illusion thus you are safer.

That said. I can tell you why overnighting at a W/M or other big lot as opposed to a campground..

It is there... Not 10 miles off on side roads but right there, 100 yards from the freeway exit. (or close to it)

If I have driven say 400 miles, and I am starting to get tired, and there is that big blue and whatever color sign (I am partially color blind and have very poor color memory) I'm going to park.. That simple.. long as I am not in NE that is.

Would I rather park in a Campground with full hookup or at least 30 amps.. YES, but, I don't know where the CG is, and I can see that big sign.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2014, 05:41:15 PM »
Dear John.  what does your story have to do with my post?.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2014, 06:13:14 PM »
Dear John.  what does your story have to do with my post?.
Dear Carson. 
Since he was responding (and quoted) a different post, why does his story need to have ANYTHING to do with your post?

But what do I know, I'm a worthless "freeloader".   Believe it or not, in over 45 years of different types of camping, I have NEVER EVEN ONCE paid for a campsite.  No way those greedy leaches are making their blood money from me!   :D

But seriously, don't you think that even those of us who stretch our budget with the occasional free stopover, still spend plenty of money on the "real" campgrounds and parks?  I mean really... FREELOADERS???
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2014, 06:57:36 PM »
Carson we have averaged over $40.00 a night with several $50.00 in there since leaving AZ the 29th of June so I think I can escape your freeloader description but when on the road a convenient WM, or better yet Cabelas, is a welcome quick stop for the night.

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« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2014, 07:06:07 PM »
Like others here, the more we save on our overnight costs, the more nights we can be out in the RV. Our average for the last 5 years is less than $5/night so I guess we're "freeloaders." Of course, we boondock a lot, not in parking lots, so does that qualify us as "freeloaders"? And can I add the $$$$ we spend in stores and restaurants when we park for "free" in their parking lots when calculating our per night cost of camping? For sure, we not helping any campgrounds or businesses if the RV is sitting in the backyard.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2014, 09:35:15 PM »
Back on topic…

How carefully does everyone check out the neighborhood when pulling into a Walmart?

This occurred to me a couple of years ago when I ran into someone who commented on staying overnight at the Walmart in Hartford, Connecticut. That store is located within two blocks of a neighborhood with one of the highest murder rates in the state. I’m uncomfortable there in the daytime, let alone staying overnight. This person had no clue where he was sleeping.

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« Reply #61 on: June 03, 2014, 10:03:55 PM »
Back on topic…

How carefully does everyone check out the neighborhood when pulling into a Walmart?


One clue for us is if there are RVs parked there already, usually a good sign. And if we feel hinky, then we don't stay.

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« Reply #62 on: June 04, 2014, 08:07:15 AM »
Back on topic…

How carefully does everyone check out the neighborhood when pulling into a Walmart?

This occurred to me a couple of years ago when I ran into someone who commented on staying overnight at the Walmart in Hartford, Connecticut. That store is located within two blocks of a neighborhood with one of the highest murder rates in the state. I’m uncomfortable there in the daytime, let alone staying overnight. This person had no clue where he was sleeping.

Yeah, back to topic. What's humorous in this thread is the knee-jerk denial of the OP's post... followed by hurt feelings. LOL
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« Reply #63 on: June 04, 2014, 08:12:19 AM »
Quote
I want proof the pit bull was stupid.

What an ignorant reply.

I thought you might have challenged the dog while watching Jeopardy. How was I to know?
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« Reply #64 on: June 04, 2014, 08:44:14 AM »
Dear John.  what does your story have to do with my post?.

Nothing at all, I was responding to DAN, as the quoted text clearly shows.

This time Carson, I'm responding to you.

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« Reply #65 on: June 04, 2014, 08:46:49 AM »
Back on topic…

How carefully does everyone check out the neighborhood when pulling into a Walmart?


The "Neighborhood" not so much but the store itself,  Well,, I will admit to pulling into a Wal-Mart or a Truck stop and not getting a good feeling.. When that happens... I weigh the risks and benefits (how tired am I) and if I'm too tired I will nap without setting up at all, then an hour or two later move on.. Else I move on immed.

And it has happened on at least a couple occasions.. One I found a campground, one I found a different store.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #66 on: June 04, 2014, 09:03:23 AM »
Ourselves being interested third parties, that is to say, we are occasional campers (we cannot even be considered part timers) and we do not have the luxury of time, yet. But in our limited experience in RVing there are very few topics that raise so much passion as to if one overnights at a Walmart or not.

Our local ordinances do not allow it in Clark County, NV, but I dare say I see RVers disregarding the postings often. Personally I agree with the ordinance in cities like Las Vegas. We would get a lot of Riff-Raff parking in our many large parking areas without the ordinance.

I also agree with those that use Walmart parking lots in small towns across America. Why not? If it is legal, and Walmart doesn't mind, who am I to say otherwise.

When we do get an opportunity to get out and camp we are blessed to live in the Western USA so finding good spots to park in recognized camp areas, and RV Parks are endless. 

I wouldn't use a parking lot as a stop over, I don't trust parking lots, for me it is that simple.

Here is a link to a FMCA article regarding this topic, http://community.fmca.com/blog/592/entry-1521-finding-free-places-to-overnight-in-your-rv/

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« Reply #67 on: June 04, 2014, 11:27:34 AM »
Not to drift off this invigorating discussion, but has anyone pulled off the road in Canada and Alaska and boon docked for the night.  Just wondering if it is possible to pull up to a river do a little fishing, and stay for the night?  Safe? Doable?

Like in the brouchers that show real camping.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #68 on: June 04, 2014, 11:49:45 AM »
Not to drift off this invigorating discussion, but has anyone pulled off the road in Canada and Alaska and boon docked for the night.  Just wondering if it is possible to pull up to a river do a little fishing, and stay for the night?  Safe? Doable?

Like in the brouchers that show real camping.

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I advise against pulling off and boon docking on your trip. Really, there is  no need to do so. There are plenty of developed areas suitable for camping with very reasonable prices both in Canada and Alaska. Before entering Canada, you can find municipal camping in some towns; look primarily in county seat communities.

I did see a few people here and there camped on sand bars in rivers, but unless you're there for the same activity that brings them there-- and I'm not sure what that activity is-- you can probably find better options.

Considerable numbers of people were camped at WalMart in Whitehorse if you so choose. Personally, in Whitehorse, I chose Pioneer camp ground; ~$25 per night with good services and added features. You can do an oil change or RV wash there, and watch east coast late night cable TV in the afternoon.

We got a map prepared by Alaska's environmental agency in Tok-- surely available elsewhere-- showing the location of public parks where we could camp for under $10 per night. If you are taking a 40' motor home or large trailer, you may need to opt for dusty, dirty, stone parking lot campgrounds that'll charge you closer to $50 per night. They toss in all the chocking dust you can stand for free.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #69 on: June 04, 2014, 12:02:14 PM »
I have stayed at Walmart a few times. However, I usually buy supplies and grocery which usually runs over $100.00. Maybe I am justifying myself but I never thought of it as "free" parking.

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« Reply #70 on: June 04, 2014, 12:13:07 PM »
Dan

As I stated earlier, I am not a advocate of camping in a parking lot, just wondering if anyone driving to Alaska, just pulled off the road did some fishing, and camped the night. Wondering if it is doable, more concerned getting eating by bears than anything else.

Have the mile post and everything else recommended. 

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #71 on: June 04, 2014, 01:00:07 PM »
After reading this thread for sometime, and living in the KC burbs for the last 30 years, I decided to look up all these unsafe Walmart locations. Using the Walmart app, I pulled about 20 stores in the KC area. The only one in KC, MO is East of Koffman stadium on I-70 between loops 435 & 470 which should be a safe part of town. Just South of there is one in Raytown which I would not shop or stay in because I personally wouldn't go to Raytown for any reason.

KC, KS shows one Walmart on the West side at loop 435 and Parallel, which is just North of I-70. This is the NASCAR track destination location complete with Nebraska Furniture, Cabellas (free overnight parking, water and dump) KC soccer stadium and tons of food and entertainment venues. I'm overnighting at Cabellas, givin the choice.

Every other Walmart the app pulled up is in the suburbs and, in my opinion, in absolutely safe locations. However, I doubt that you would be allowed to overnight at many, if any, of the locations due to local ordinances. Make sure you call the store manager before you arrive at any of them.

A call to Cabellas is not necessary because they designed their Free RV parking lot, water and dump stations for all the "Freeloaders" who want to stop and stay for awhile. However, you may want to check the NASCAR schedule of KC racing events before showing up.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #72 on: June 04, 2014, 03:53:53 PM »
I think I'll regret this post..

 There will always be freeloaders and always advantage takers and then there are folks who like to support  the RV camping industry. Count me in... I will support the campground every time.

 Hit me...

But you say you are an "ex RVer" so I guess your campground support will be minimal at best.  I don't look at RVers as freeloaders regardless of where they stay.  Campgrounds are not always convenient as Walmarts.  If you want freeloaders, just look at the welfare system in this country and the lack of any government encouragement to get off of it.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #73 on: June 04, 2014, 06:44:41 PM »
If I am really tired i might have a cat nap in a WalMart lot.
but there is no way I would try to get some good sleep in one.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #74 on: June 30, 2014, 10:40:38 AM »
We have stayed at several Walmarts in our travels. We pick the Walmarts that are open 24 hours a day so there is security in the area. Also, make sure we park next to one of the lights when possible. Have never felt unsafe but then again we travel with two large dogs that bark if someone gets to close. We also have always gone inside and purchased groceries.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2014, 03:12:43 PM »
I'm new with the MH, and I was thinking that on an occasional longer trip this is one of the selling advantages for getting the MH over the pup we had.

Is there any sort of directory or reference to good and reasonably safe places.... or even one that lists which walmarts allow it.... which Cracker Barrels, which track stops are good.....etc....  How do you go about finding a store that allows it?

I was thinking about this just the other day when having lunch at Cracker Barrel.  wondering if they had such a directory & i was going to ask the manager about it but it was busy.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2014, 03:20:49 PM »
I'm new with the MH, and I was thinking that on an occasional longer trip this is one of the selling advantages for getting the MH over the pup we had.

Is there any sort of directory or reference to good and reasonably safe places.... or even one that lists which walmarts allow it.... which Cracker Barrels, which track stops are good.....etc....  How do you go about finding a store that allows it?

I was thinking about this just the other day when having lunch at Cracker Barrel.  wondering if they had such a directory & i was going to ask the manager about it but it was busy.
No directory, but I've never found a Cracker Barrel that didn't allow overnight parking.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2014, 03:24:51 PM »
I'm new with the MH, and I was thinking that on an occasional longer trip this is one of the selling advantages for getting the MH over the pup we had.

Is there any sort of directory or reference to good and reasonably safe places.... or even one that lists which walmarts allow it.... which Cracker Barrels, which track stops are good.....etc....  How do you go about finding a store that allows it?

I was thinking about this just the other day when having lunch at Cracker Barrel.  wondering if they had such a directory & i was going to ask the manager about it but it was busy.

"Allstays" will list all of the Cracker Barrel, and Wallmart locations with a reference to which ones allow MH overnights.
"Safe place" is a relative term. Despite all of the apparent controversy here regarding parking lot overnights, you're probably just as safe or safer than many State Forest campgrounds where you can be sitting practically alone in the deep forest, subject to all that looming danger roaming about.... ::)
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2014, 05:01:39 PM »
We stopped at several Walmart parking lots on our trip across country so far and felt just fine at each one except Kansas City. When we arrived it was 9pm and the parking lot had very few cars and no RV's. Within ten minutes of parking, a car parked two spaces in front of us and the woman looked really suspicious. She stayed in the car sitting up and kept looking over at our RV and when she saw me she would look back down. She was parked there looking suspicious the entire time. I just didn't feel comfortable because why did she have to park right in front of me way out at the far end of the parking lot all by ourselves.

Well, after about two hours I finally decided to drive off and find another Walmart about thirty miles down the road where we found about five other RV's parked.

Have you ever parked in a parking lot for the night and just didn't feel comfortable for some reason?
its kind of her right to park there same as u felt it was  yours? but if you look up crime??? Kansas  CITY is in the top 5 in north  america

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #79 on: June 30, 2014, 05:12:34 PM »
Does Wallmart allow fishing?
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #80 on: June 30, 2014, 05:22:10 PM »
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Is there any sort of directory or reference to good and reasonably safe places.... or even one that lists which walmarts allow it.... which Cracker Barrels, which track stops are good.....etc....  How do you go about finding a store that allows it?

I don't know of any reference that tells you that.  Cracker Barrel has a brochure of all their locations.  The Next Exit lists all the Cracker Barrels, Wal-Marts and such that are close to an interstate highway.  If the place is suitable for large vehicles (e.g. RVs) the name is printed in red.  That means it's an RV-friendly place so there's a good chance they might allow overnight RV parking.  BUT (there's always one of those) the only way you'll know for sure is to ask at that specific location.  Even though Wal-Mart and Cracker Barrel tend to RV-friendly, some communities have ordinances restricting overnight parking in places other than a campground.  In that case the retail establishment might like to accommodate overnight RVers but cannot encourage you to do so.  With all the thousands of retailers in this country, it would be hard to pin them down on such a policy that could then be printed in a book or online database.  Then there's the local crime which can vary from one year to the next because there's little crime when the economy is good but it rises when the economy tanks.  As to truck stops, when you read or hear on TV about some of the stuff that happens in their parking lots, I wonder if any would be safe for overnight stops.  I'm not saying these places are unsafe, but there's just no way to tell other than to observe what's happening in your surroundings and decide where you feel safe staying there.  Every one of us needs to be street smart when we're traveling.

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« Reply #81 on: June 30, 2014, 05:23:09 PM »
Does Wallmart allow fishing?
yes its called trolling  ;D

saw this here: little crime when the economy is good     Really where in this world is that true?
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« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2014, 05:38:29 PM »
yes its called trolling 

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« Reply #83 on: June 30, 2014, 06:33:10 PM »
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little crime when the economy is good     Really where in this world is that true?

Poor choice of words.  Perhaps I should have said "less crime" vs. "more crime" and we've seen it in a number of places both in the USA and other countries.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2014, 12:14:07 AM »
Yahoo groups has a WalMart forum for overnight parking.  In their file section are lists that are kept up to date pretty well.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/walmartrving/conversations/topics

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2014, 01:07:02 PM »
Does Wallmart allow fishing?
Why not?
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« Reply #86 on: July 01, 2014, 05:34:28 PM »
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« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2014, 02:58:06 PM »
...you're probably just as safe or safer than many State Forest campgrounds where you can be sitting practically alone in the deep forest, subject to all that looming danger roaming about...

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« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2014, 03:01:46 PM »

Bigfoot?

Naaaw.... Travis Gornicke from the movie "RV"...   ;D
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2014, 03:29:36 PM »
We've stayed a number of WalMarts during our travels.  All have been 24 hour stores.  In New England and upstate NY, open campgrounds a hard to find in November and April.  I'm not going to drive 50 miles each way to a campground that is open  to pay for a site where I won't even hook up. 
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2014, 07:26:49 PM »
Major department stores often get a lot of police traffic,, True story follows.

But if you feel uncomfortable.. park elsewhere....

The story:
Store security (K-mart 4065) Catches a shoplifter, buzzes the fuzz (Battle Creek, MI, City Police) and a patrol car and officer come by to take 'me off to the hotel for retired shoplifters... AS the security chief is escorting the officer and his client out of the store he spots another shoplifter in the ace,  Nails him as he turns around to re-enter the store, calls the PD from the service desk just inside the doors;..

Dispatcher: You got another already, The last officer has not gotten back to the station with the last one.
Security: Gotten back, He's still in our parking lot.

Like I said, A LOT of police presence.
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Re: Feeling uncomfortable while parking at Walmart in Kansas City!
« Reply #91 on: November 17, 2014, 12:22:06 AM »
I usually keep an AK47 or AR15 in my RV and a .45 in the console beside me (I have a ccw) and I have yet to feel uncomfortable anywhere :)

Ya, me to and also a CCW.   But I have guns mainly for target shooting while in Florida.   We are locked inside our motorhome when sleeping anywhere.   The keys are in the ignition.   All I need is time to get the engine started and make our exit.   Never, ever had a problem.
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