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Re: One Second After
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2013, 01:11:25 AM »
And what kind of fuel does your oven require??  Electricity is not available so my gas oven won't work if I even have gas.  Coal or wood burning would work if you have one of those old timers.  It gets real interesting once you start thinking about the situation.  No electricity, gas, gasoline, diesel or ??? as they all require pumping stations, vehicle or other transport.

Hi Jim and all,

We have propane and the oven doesn't need any electric to work. Until we would run out of L.P. we could make jerky.
BTW, we have cooked with the oven during power failers before. Best!
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2013, 08:42:29 AM »
Farnum's(sp?) Freehold by Heinlein may be the prototype for these novels. Certainly worth a read.

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Re: One Second After
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2013, 11:28:00 AM »
Almost right, Ernie: Farnham's Freehold

An excellent read, and it's a rather odd (if you've not thought about it) twist.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2013, 07:39:03 AM »
It's been a long time; may be time to reread. :)

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Re: One Second After
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2013, 09:44:49 AM »
Any body want to lend me the ebook (epub) when you have finished reading it?

sounds like a good read.

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Re: One Second After
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2013, 11:23:12 AM »
I have  a friend and mentor (He was my instructor for the last class I took in Ham Radio,, I graduated early and now.. Well, I can no longer upgrade my Ham license (The one I have is as good as they get :) ).

He worked for Chrysler and one of his jobs was testing cars by installing radios.

Imagine the poor police officer  he is driving down the freewya 10mph over the speed lmit when some jerk flys past him like he was in PARK.. He hits the gas, Keys the transmitter "Dispatch, this is Adam Twelve, I'm in pursuit of a .. And the engine in his patrol car sputters and dies from RFI to the computer) Unit number from TV show of same name).

That was Tom's job, to make sure that did NOT happen.. Like me Tom is licensed for 1,000 watts and that's what they tested at. (2,000 peak envelope power)
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2013, 01:11:41 PM »
Worked with a guy that had an RF sensitive car alarm.  I got good laughs out of keying up my 2m mobile (30 watts) to finish a conversation when pulling into the parking lot. 
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2013, 06:33:50 PM »
Remember the Cadillac with the 8-6-4 engine that change the number of cylinders depending on speed and load.  One of the secretaries had one and I passed her on my way to work talking on my radio.  Cadillac provided her with a new engine and modified the electronics on some cars.  I have gotten at least one parks WIFI receiver when I overloaded the front end, no filtering in that one.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2013, 10:44:02 AM »
Funny I saw this and last night just read that N Korea got equipment from Russia and are working on EMP development to disrupt all the stuff in S Korea.  That's the kind of stuff, communications, my son is responsible with in the military, he is DOD.  He does not talk about any of it, is considered essential personnel and is supplied with uniforms and a sidearm in case anything happens over there, I guess he becomes a part of the military again somehow, not sure about how that works.  I hope they have developed things to detect and thwart it.  That now is one of the situations preppers dread is an EMP event.  From what I've read that is scary we are sure putting all our eggs in one basket.


I have freezers full but I can can all the food long as my propane holds out.  Tom got my new propane stove in for me.  The electronic lighters won't work so use a match if  you don't have electric.  I would can everything I could till the propane is gone so we could still have lots of food back.  I'm sort of a semi prepper anyway so have anything and everything back.  We are in a tiny community too and a bit isolated, one of the reasons we are here too.  And everyone knows everyone else.  After seeing the results of that massive hurricane in New Orleans and they were clear over to us it really got me to thinking.  I wanted out of there and we succeeded.  Tom and I could survive for a long time if we were no threatened by others or required to feed more then ourselves but I'm sure most people don't have back the quantities of food and supplies we do.

I get a kick out of the prepper sites, some talk about things to keep their kids entertained, they obviously did not grow up like me.  They would find in short order that is the least of their problems.  If we truly went back in time they would find likely 80 to 90% of their time would be required to hunt, cook, prepare for winter, garden, can, sew, to just survive and most would never make it.  They would need the kids labor to help make it.  I started canning about age 10 or so and in a couple years could do it by myself.  They just have no idea.  I hope it never happens, I grew up doing all that kind of work and remember it well I hope I don't have to do it again at the age we are getting.

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Re: One Second After
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2013, 10:58:50 AM »
When I built the house in WA state, due to a couple of factors we wound up putting the electric meter on the wellhouse, then going underground from there another 200 ft. to the main house. 

Inside the wellhouse I put a 36" x 36" electrical box and made a surge suppressor of sorts by coiling the primary cables and passing them through ferrite cores.  Then the wiring went through the generator transfer panel, etc. before proceeding to the house.

If nothing else, the loops and ferrite should dampen a fast rise time EMP pulse a bit before it gets into the house's electrical panel.

The well pump was fed via a separate cable coming back from the house.  This was so I could power it from the motorhome generator which we connected to the house panel before we got the big generator and transfer panel (surplus from the radio station where I used to work).

That house was a pretty good hunker down place.  Located on a rural island with only one bridge on or off, which passed next to the county's Emergency Operations Center (sheriff's station).  Whenever there was suspicious activity on the island, the sheriff would simply sit by the bridge and wait for the suspect.  Self sufficient except for incoming electricity and that was backed up by generator.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2013, 11:43:11 AM »
Any body want to lend me the ebook (epub) when you have finished reading it?

sounds like a good read.

You can find it here  (( One Second After.pdf - yimg.com )) for free . If the link doesn't work just Google it .

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Re: One Second After
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2013, 12:17:39 PM »
Well, Maddie. You are up to 40 replies now. How about that! Its been an interesting thread. Thanks.

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Re: One Second After
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2013, 01:28:35 PM »
You can find it here  (( One Second After.pdf - yimg.com )) for free . If the link doesn't work just Google it .

Bill

Thanks bill! I tried to find it on google but kept downloading bad things not just a book  :o
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2013, 04:15:27 PM »
Thanks bill! I tried to find it on google but kept downloading bad things not just a book  :o

Sorry about that . I should have been clearer . Google   one second after pfd .   When the page comes up it will have (( [ PFD ]  One Second After.pdf - yimg.com )) at the top of it . When you click on it , it will go to the box in your computer asking you where you want to download it . I clicked on my documents and clicked save .    I am running windows xp and have trend micro as my security and it downloaded no problem .
I dont know if this is the whole book but it sure gives a person good reading . I am about halfway through it

I hope this helps Bill

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Re: One Second After
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2013, 08:02:43 AM »
No no Bill it is I that should have been clearer. when I searched google on my own I was just hitting spam like sites and sites that needed login info or pdf's that were free but needed a password to open (that you had to buy)
I even tried to find it at my local library, online. they had the audio book.

the link you posted works just fine. I just copied and pasted and was able to download and read the pdf. (at least test to make sure it opened.)

I have been on pain killers the last couple of days due to a medical condition, so sometimes what I type seems clear and straight forward to me :) but  may not be understandable by others. I usually just don't post during the pain times but I really wanted to read this book.

adding it to my kobo now.

thanks again.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2013, 05:39:37 PM »
Thanks for all the feedback, and yes, it is ironic to read about EMP on an ebook.  But I had to laugh at myself the other night.  I was grumbling mightily to my husband on how we were paying $248 a month for all the Verizon communications we were addicted to.  I WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!  So what do I do?  I go to the internet to investigate....... duh.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2013, 05:46:30 PM »
Any body want to lend me the ebook (epub) when you have finished reading it?

sounds like a good read.

My copy is paper -- I've had it since long before ebooks. You were talking about Farnham's Freehold?
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2013, 06:36:05 PM »
Thanks for all the feedback, and yes, it is ironic to read about EMP on an ebook.  But I had to laugh at myself the other night.  I was grumbling mightily to my husband on how we were paying $248 a month for all the Verizon communications we were addicted to.  I WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!  So what do I do?  I go to the internet to investigate....... duh.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2013, 09:21:09 AM »
Stan, thanks, it took a while but have enjoyed the feedback.

Seiler, I'll look into to Tmobile but because I live in the sticks Verizon has a pretty much lock in the area.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2013, 02:22:14 PM »
My copy is paper -- I've had it since long before ebooks. You were talking about Farnham's Freehold?
nope I was talking about he one second after book the thread was kind of about. The Farnham's Freehold might be a good read too will have to see if  I can download that. If not I may have to go to the local Library and borrow a paper copy.

I just finished the One Second After. good book thought provoking.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2013, 11:02:55 AM »
We are in the sticks too, but somehow live next to a secondary highway that has fiber optic cables running down it.  We get Frontier
phone service and internet for $110 a month and its excellent service, better then it was in Houston.  Been here almost a year and not 1 outage I've had to call on who knew.

But we have Dish and the weather effects it but it does come back on pretty quick and come to think of it only had to call them once when we first came here to change something as each cable box hooks up 2 places and had to have that change. I think its close to $130 so sounds like ours is about as much as yours.  I know this is a luxury but it sure is a nice one to have.  All this keeps me connected to the world even way out here where cellphones don't work!

But I can tell you if anything ever did go badly wrong this is sure the place to be.  We have lots of expertise around here too, only thing most of us are getting up in years.  The young people around here know squat about surviving that is.  Guess they would have to learn pretty quick, I fear though it would be by taking from folks like us if they can.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2013, 02:40:42 PM »
Hi Carolyn,
Sticks, also, but we have a HUMONHGOUS Facebook "factory"? building about 20 miles from here.  Supposedly there are more fiber optic cables running thru these sticks than anywhere in the SE.  So really strange. I mean these buildings are about ten acres each and it looks like three of them.  For Facebook, which is basically ether-land, I don't understand it.  Any computer geeks want to lambast or even comment on my question?  I'm open to learning.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2013, 08:39:12 PM »
You don't do a FB sized project on a couple of dozen servers. Enough servers for the kind of traffic FB has take a lot of space, not to mention cooling, heating, offices, maybe a cafeteria, emergency power, spare parts, future expansion, perhaps vehicle garage built in, perhaps emergency shelters for folks who work there, and who knows what else. I suspect I've only scratched the surface.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2013, 08:55:17 PM »
According to this article Facebook may be running as many as 217,080 servers.  And this article is over a year old. 
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2017, 10:10:31 AM »
I'm restarting this discussion.   Now that North Korea is becoming a more critical threat with its missile testing, its nuclear obsession and EMP capabilities, i think it's important to be prepared for the worst.

Questions i have:  Is an RV a safe place to be should there be nuclear fallout winds blown into the US from the tradewinds.  Most gov't sites say that during fallout being indoors is safest; inside buildings and homes with basements the best.  Cars are not safe.  Where would an RV be on this list?  i guess if it is sealed up tightly it might be, obviously depending on where you are in comparison to the ground zero.

Would life be sustainable in an RV for a while if you traveled to a safe location? 
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2017, 11:09:03 AM »
I think an RV would generally be even less safe than a car due to the wall construction. Unless, of course, you have lead walls on your RV.😉
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2017, 11:32:55 AM »
In the Navy, we were taught there were four types of radiation, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Neutron.
We were taught to hold the Alpha in your hand, as it won't penetrate the skin. You put the Beta in your pocket because it won't penetrate your clothing. You eat the gamma, as it won't cause that much damage to your cells. You throw the Neutron away from you, as that is the one that will do the most damage. The first two, an RV would probably be ok, and maybe even stop some of the third. Neutrons are a different story, an RV won't help there.
Either way, I'm not running around wearing a tin-foil hat worrying about it. What will be, will be. There isn't enough truly safe places for all of us, and being I live on flat land on the East coast, any place here would probably become so contaminated with fall-out, it really wouldn't matter where I hide.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #57 on: May 12, 2017, 11:54:17 AM »
I read it and the second book and loved it.  The third and final book comes out this fall I believe and looking forward to it.
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Re: One Second After
« Reply #58 on: May 12, 2017, 02:05:55 PM »
In the Navy, we were taught there were four types of radiation, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Neutron.
We were taught to hold the Alpha in your hand, as it won't penetrate the skin. You put the Beta in your pocket because it won't penetrate your clothing. You eat the gamma, as it won't cause that much damage to your cells. You throw the Neutron away from you, as that is the one that will do the most damage. The first two, an RV would probably be ok, and maybe even stop some of the third. Neutrons are a different story, an RV won't help there.
Either way, I'm not running around wearing a tin-foil hat worrying about it. What will be, will be. There isn't enough truly safe places for all of us, and being I live on flat land on the East coast, any place here would probably become so contaminated with fall-out, it really wouldn't matter where I hide.

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Now I was doing all this for energy conservation and easy maintenance, but now it looks like when the balloon goes up I will be protected from  Kim Jong Dumb too. 

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Re: One Second After
« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2017, 02:46:48 PM »
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