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2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« on: January 22, 2014, 07:09:09 PM »
It was a balmy 65 degrees under sunny skies with  no wind. Rally members attending the 2014 Quartzsite Rally contributed  fifteen entries  in to the contest to determine which  brand of toilet paper would dissolve best. Two squares  were placed into a cup of water and let sit for 45 minutes before the first result was tested. Then the  entries sat in the water until 4pm Happy Hour.  The entries were as follows:
1. Angel Soft
2. Avater RV ( 10 cents a roll)
3. Quilted Northern Ultra Plush
4. Costco
5. Scott 1 ply
6. Kleenex Tissue
7. Enviro-Soft
8. Sam's Club
9. Valtera 2 ply RV toilet paper
10.  Purex 2 ply ( Western Canadian Brand)
11.  Thetford 2 ply
12. Charmin
13.  Angel Soft 2 ply
14.  Quilted Northern 2 ply
15.  Charmin Ultra

The number one digested dissolved toilet paper is Purex.  It also had a soft factor! But you can only buy it  in Canada
The number 2 was Sam's Club also with a soft factor and  you can buy it in the USA if you are a Sam's Member!
Third Place was Scott 1 ply but it's not very soft and quite thin. One can purchase at any grocery store.

Kleenex was worst!  Never ever blow your nose and drop a tissue into  toilet! Charmin had disappointing results.  Angel Soft did not do what it has in the past. Quilted Northern and Costco  were not very good either!   
Photos to follow!
« Last Edit: January 22, 2014, 07:10:43 PM by Betty Brewer »
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2014, 07:17:52 PM »
Thanks for posting the 'scientific results' Betty. It seems that either individual product formulae have changed, or the test method changed  ???

My first choice at home, in the coach, and on the boat continues to be Quilted Northern; In addition to being the winner on two prior tests, it has superior 'wet strength' and 'comfort'. Can't bring myself to using TP that feels like sandpaper or which my finger goes through  :o
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2014, 07:30:18 PM »
I can't wait for the photos....
Especially after happy hour. ;D
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2014, 07:42:29 PM »
Betty,
How long was the test and how did Charmin Ultra perform?  Thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2014, 07:44:16 PM »
Here are a few  photos of the study.  Setting up the  test  subjects, jars with contents  waiting to dissolve, Wendy supervising, Texture of the winner Purex.
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2014, 07:46:57 PM »
Betty,
How long was the test and how did Charmin Ultra perform?  Thanks.
We placed two sheets of tissue into each glass of water at  10 am.  Final results were tallied at 4 pm after a bit of stirring and shaking all done  equally.  Charmin did not break up well at all.  I was expecting more!
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2014, 07:53:57 PM »
It was fun and it was informative. And it also showed that not everything should go into your holding tank. You could have wrung out that Kleenex and used it to blow your nose. Thanks to all who donated TP and other items for our test.

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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2014, 07:57:15 PM »
Great photos to document the event, thanks!
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2014, 08:05:00 PM »
Thanks, Betty and the other attendees.  We've been using Sam's Club TP (Members Mark is their brand) at the house for the last 4 years and like it, but have continued to use Scott's Single Ply in the coach. Guess we can use the same in both places now.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2014, 08:13:37 PM »
Why when two or more RV'ers get together does the main subject always turn to POOOOO???? LOL

Nice study, Someday Ill make it to Q and will volunteer to be the official agitator! lol
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2014, 08:39:32 PM »
Chuckle. Nice job, but how much does it matter unless it dissolves when you're using it?    :-\
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2014, 08:58:49 PM »
This is really interesting...I am from Canada and we have used Purex at home for years. Started using it in the 5th last year but just a week ago decided I want to test it up against Kleenex brand to see if it was as good as I thought. Did the same thing...a cup of water and 2 sheets of each in a glass...and just like your test, the Purex dissolved and broke very easily. Kleenex brand could be removed from the glass intact and was a wet clump. Nice to see that our test results are so similar....I will keep using Purex, and just glad its readily available to me.

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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2014, 09:22:58 PM »
Why when two or more RV'ers get together does the main subject always turn to POOOOO????

Oh you have no idea  how many ideas we had for the test.  The guys wanted to fill the glasses with other than water!  Many many ideas  were rejected by Wendy and I! It was all really really fun.  One would have a difficult time  doing this test at home.  We were fortunate in this large group to have so many samples!

Only in Quartzsite!!!!!  Only with RVers!!!!!!
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2014, 09:30:21 PM »
I'm sorry I wasn't able to attend and donate squares of our favorite paper, but, "I don't have a square to spare". That just rang a bell for some of you. Others will have no clue. I'll bet someone can explain it.

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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2014, 09:47:53 PM »
Based on these test results I'm compelled to modify the RV bathroom.....
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2014, 09:53:23 PM »
And the test is not over ... the samples are still 'brewing' and we'll see what they look like tomorrow.
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2014, 10:09:11 PM »
Rick, the Kleenex was really Kleenex tissue and not the Kleenex brand of toilet paper.  We added the Kleenex because so many people think their RV toilet is like the one at home.  You may be able to blow your nose on a Kleenex tissue at home and put it down the toilet but, based on today's results, you'd better not do that in your RV toilet!

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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2014, 10:48:28 PM »
Oh Ok...I missed that, thought it was Kleenex brand tissue... Here it goes by Kleenex Cottonelle....I can assure you, it's not great either, stays in a big clump.

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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2014, 11:50:33 PM »
LOL Bob.
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2014, 11:57:49 PM »
And maybe this test will suffice for another 10-15 years.

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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2014, 05:49:38 AM »
... Wendy supervising, ...
Good thing you finally found a use for Wendy ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2014, 09:22:21 AM »
Tom S, get well soon so you can come back to Quartzsite next year and insult me in person ;)
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2014, 09:47:59 AM »
I can't wait to retire so I can worry about important things like this.  ;D
 
Only about 20 years to go!  :(
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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2014, 09:59:31 AM »
I can't wait to retire so I can worry about important things like this.  Only about 20 years to go! 

Terry says to tell you if you ever get a "poop pyramid" before you retire, you too will be worried about these important issues! ;)

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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2014, 11:04:20 AM »
I can't wait to retire so I can worry about important things like this.  ;D
 
Only about 20 years to go!  :(

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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2014, 11:15:40 AM »
After checking the TP this morning, after 24 hours, the results are still the same - Purex (Canada), Scott 1-ply, and Sam's Club dissolved the best. Bottom of the poop pile with little disintegration are Quilted Northern. Charmin Ultra, and Costco. And of course, items you should never put in your holding tank include Kleenex facial tissues and the mystery lady's item.
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2014, 11:37:23 AM »
i have a serious question ::) we are not full time, take many short trips, and atleast one long on a year, i dump at every campsite, and when i get home. so the question is, does it really mater the type of paper i use, since it doesn't stay in the tank to de-compose? :-\
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2014, 12:54:16 PM »
After checking the TP this morning, after 24 hours, the results are still the same - Purex (Canada), Scott 1-ply, and Sam's Club dissolved the best. Bottom of the poop pile with little disintegration are Quilted Northern. Charmin Ultra, and Costco. And of course, items you should never put in your holding tank include Kleenex facial tissues and the mystery lady's item.

It's funny Wendy, when we got up this morning we put three sheets folded of Charming Ultra Strong in a cup of water. I stirred it after one hour and it was still kind a in one piece.  Went back to it 2 hours later and it was completely broken apart. Are you looking for it to completely disappear or just to break up? I'm very happy with this Charmin Ultra Strong.
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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2014, 02:13:14 PM »
It's funny Wendy, when we got up this morning we put three sheets folded of Charming Ultra Strong in a cup of water. I stirred it after one hour and it was still kind a in one piece.  Went back to it 2 hours later and it was completely broken apart. Are you looking for it to completely disappear or just to break up? I'm very happy with this Charmin Ultra Strong.

Just want it to break up. The Charmin used here was big blobs, not broken up at all. I'm starting to think there are 'regional formula variations' :)
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2014, 03:14:49 PM »
i have a serious question ::) we are not full time, take many short trips, and atleast one long on a year, i dump at every campsite, and when i get home. so the question is, does it really mater the type of paper i use, since it doesn't stay in the tank to de-compose? :-\
It is very important! You WILL find out one day when you have a poop pyramid and cant dump.

Use a good dissolving paper and twice as much water as you think you need and all will come out in the end....
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2014, 07:46:35 PM »
For all the newbies and non-Rv’ers, this is all code for “lets get together and drink”!
While we are there drinking we will do some scientific tests to justify the meeting. We will discuss the test requirements and drink, we will then discuss the entries and drink, then we will discuss the time limits and drink. When finished we will analyze the results and drink, then we will post the results and drink. Somewhere in all this we will eat and drink also.
My holding tank is a 40 gallon bucket, using plenty of water I can dump just about anything as long as I have beer. Life is too short for single ply, there must be a mistake with the test, lets do it again. One day I hope to attend the Q rally and practice my drinking, I mean testing. Sounds like everyone had fun!  :) :)
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« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2014, 07:53:32 PM »
I just brewed a German Maibock that has your name on it........
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« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2014, 08:11:26 PM »
The reason disintegration is important is that pieces of paper can hang up on tank sensors (if you have the in-tank type as most still do) and the valves. Larger pieces can also catch at the floor flange, a bend in the pipe, or other places where there may be rough spots or constrictions. TP that dissolves well & quickly lowers the risk of these sorts of things.

Paper also contributes mightily to the "poop pyramid" problem, but you should never have that issue if you flush enough water and don't dump until the tank is at least half full.
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« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2014, 08:12:25 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2014, 08:35:31 PM »
Would love to sample it!

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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2014, 09:30:51 PM »
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i have a serious question ::) we are not full time, take many short trips, and a tleast one long on a year, i dump at every campsite, and when i get home. so the question is, does it really mater the type of paper i use, since it doesn't stay in the tank to de-compose?

Yes, it really matters or we wouldn't have done the test!  You, my friend, are one of the ones who will be complaining about odor and the poop pyramid and the sensor not working.  You should not be dumping at every campsite.  The black tank should be at minimum one-half full and it's better at two-thirds or three-quarters so the liquid has a chance to break down the solids, whether waste or tissue.  When you dump too often the solids stay on the bottom of the tank, especially if they don't have enough water to break it all up.  It's okay to dump when you get home and the toilet is not going to be used for a while, but do make sure there's some water in it so the "stuff" that might be left on the bottom of the tank doesn't solidify.  Another cause of the infamous poop pyramid is when people get to a site and open their black tank and leave it open.  The water that's flushed isn't adequate to push the solids out of the tank.  If you get to a site and need to dump because the tank is full, go ahead and dump but then close the valve so water has a chance to help the bacteria break down and dissolve the stuff in the tank.

By the way, this test clearly and without any doubt whatsoever proved that Kleenex tissues and feminine products should NEVER EVER be put down an RV toilet where they will remain undissolved in the RV black tank.  Make sure everyone who travels with you knows this!

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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2014, 09:44:22 AM »
i use more than average water when flushing, and i flush out the tank when dumping, if figured that would help slosh the rest out, never had a problem with a poop pile, just wondering i guess. thanks for the info.
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2014, 09:56:30 AM »
After a full 48 hours after our test we fished  contents from cup and  then   dumped the results around the  inside perimeter of the fire ring.  I  have a photo of results of Quilted Northern.  Clearly not so broken down.

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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2014, 09:23:07 PM »
lol…. Betty - i got a good chuckle from your scientific test

now: can the results be replicated at differing altitudes and temps?
this would b helpful as i am sure RVers will want to know the results based on their present and future locations

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« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2014, 06:45:35 AM »
Sounds like fun!  I have tentative plans to join y'all at Quartzite next year.  Can't wait to discuss poop with 'ya!  ;)

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« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2014, 06:47:52 AM »
I must admit to a running joke between Catblaster and myself. Every time we get together one of us remarks that today would be a good day to go buy some toilet paper and do some dissolving tests. Well, it is funny to us. ???
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« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2014, 06:53:15 AM »
The science experiment has Susan and I wanting to go to QZ...you folks are having too much fun.
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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2014, 09:45:37 AM »
A friend of mine gave me some really good advice on upkeep of the black tank.  He said that right before I take off to put some toilet treatment down my commode followed by a 10 lb bag of ice.  This sloshing around will help to loosen up any particles at the bottom of the black tank.  He was right, it helped a lot.  I also put a little bleach down toilet about 10 hours before I flush tanks (just a little though).  I don't empty the black tank until it is about 3/4 full because the vacuum will help to draw out all loose matter in your tank.  I only use 1 ply RV toilet paper that I buy at Wal-Mart.  Keep an old broom handle nearby to help with any toilet paper clogs.  Not as bad as it sounds.
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2014, 11:54:31 AM »
This sloshing around will help to loosen up any particles at the bottom of the black tank.

Just curious. How does floating ice "help to loosen up any particles at the bottom of the black tank?"

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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2014, 07:12:24 PM »
i have a serious question ::) we are not full time, take many short trips, and atleast one long on a year, i dump at every campsite, and when i get home. so the question is, does it really mater the type of paper i use, since it doesn't stay in the tank to de-compose? :-\
For your situation I think that having a good way to flush the holding tank with a lot of water is more important than what kind of TP you use.

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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2014, 03:54:14 PM »
OK, so we are a full month after Quartzsite testing of  toilet paper.  It was time  to make my purchase based on the scientific results.  We are Sam's Club Members and trotted off to local Sam's club for the purchase of the Members Mark  brand.  Alas they only come  packaged in rolls of 45.  That's a lot of rolls and it will set you back $16 or so.  So I did not buy any.

Now I am home and it's two days later.  I still need toilet paper.  Looks like I will return to Sam's and make the purchase.  I will  have stored rolls for quite some time!  Let  this message serve as a warning that if you are going with our  Quartzsite results, you may want to carpool with an RVForum friend when making your purchase at Sam's.   On my was to Sam's now................
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2014, 04:00:10 PM »
Giggle Giggle, Betty. That is 35 cents a roll....what a bargain.

Now you are spending gas money to fetch the big-pack.
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« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2014, 05:02:09 PM »
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Carson, remember that the journey is part of the fun  ;D
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« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2014, 05:06:44 PM »
Aye, Tom.  I forgot all about that.

A side bit... Were there any fish in the river Tatt ?  Did you work on the docks ?

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« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2014, 05:14:40 PM »
We use the Sam's Members Mark TP at home too, so the big packages are not a problem.
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« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2014, 08:16:40 PM »
They come in Liza size. ;)

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« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2014, 08:17:18 PM »
Giggle Giggle, Betty. That is 35 cents a roll....what a bargain.

Now you are spending gas money to fetch the big-pack.

Carson,

That may be cheap now but I remember 4 rolls in a pack for $0.33, 8 1/4 cents each!   :)
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« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2014, 08:50:49 PM »
For more "real world" test, the water would need something like 5% by volume of ammonia added to to it.
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« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2014, 06:14:56 PM »
Do I detect a Betty vs. Liza battle over who has the most rolls of toilet paper??  :) ;D ;)

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« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2014, 08:01:12 PM »
Sorry, Ardra, the Canadians take this one, too - best dissolving TP and most rolls in a single RV. And she wouldn't even share.
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2014, 08:05:58 PM »
By the way, this test clearly and without any doubt whatsoever proved that Kleenex tissues and feminine products should NEVER EVER be put down an RV toilet where they will remain undissolved in the RV black tank.  Make sure everyone who travels with you knows this!

ArdraF
One other thing to never, ever put down an RV toilet are the "flushable" moist wipes or baby wipes. The packaging says they are septic system safe, but I've read they don't dissolve well if at all and people are being advised to not flush them down their home toilets either.
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2014, 06:59:41 PM »
Maybe we can continue the test next January with items marked "flushable" because I was wondering about them too.  Surely there are enough that we can prove they're not, at least in RVs.

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« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2014, 03:12:26 PM »
By Sam's Club brand do you mean "Members Mark"? 
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2014, 06:32:53 PM »
Maybe we can continue the test next January with items marked "flushable" because I was wondering about them too.  Surely there are enough that we can prove they're not, at least in RVs.

ArdraF

There are incidences of municipal sewage systems having extremely expensive and massive blockages due to these so-called "flushable" wipes.  Don't do it. :o
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« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2014, 10:58:54 PM »
By Sam's Club brand do you mean "Members Mark"?
Yep.  See reply #45.
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« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2015, 10:23:32 PM »
I stumbled on this article while googling for the best rv toilet paper. I forgot I created an account on here way back so this looks like it might sadly be my first post. I don't have a Sam's club account so I can't try that, but am thinking about buying Scott's that was recommended at http://rvmusthaves.com/best-rv-toilet-paper-48-rolls/  ..Has anybody tried the Scott's?

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« Reply #61 on: June 13, 2015, 03:49:24 AM »
I bought a 16-roll pack of Scott's 1000 and threw them all away. I went back to Angel Soft two-ply and won't be experimenting again.
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« Reply #62 on: June 13, 2015, 07:12:02 AM »
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I bought a 16-roll pack of Scott's 1000 and threw them all away.

Well, TP is a disposable product. You are supposed to throw it away, right?   ???   Don't know what your problem was with it, but we used Scott's single ply in the RV for years before we started buying Members Mark at at Sam's Club. Don't know if Walmart's in-house brand (Great Value) is the same or not, but it's worth checking out.

Angel Soft used to work pretty well also. Anybody tested it lately? Formulations change from time to time.
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« Reply #63 on: June 13, 2015, 08:11:33 AM »
I believe Scott's 1000 tested near the top and Angle Soft tested in the lower half last year at Quartzite. Hence, I thought I would try Scott's. Since the 16-pack was the best price at the time I bought it to split between the MH and house.

I find Scott's to be non-absorbent, rough (hard) and single ply which are all negatives for me. Angle Soft, on the other hand, is two-ply, softer and more absorbent in my opinion. Therefore, I threw the unused Scott's away and bought some Angle Soft.

When I wand my black tank, usually after setting for a period of time, I find a lot of TP "shards" are discharged during the process, more then I would have imagined. Since I travel solo this infers to me that Angle Soft may not completely break down without lots of motion and agitation from moving the MH often. However, since my MH does not have internal black tank sensors, and I do wand the tank periodically, I am not concerned about a long term build-up. Frankly, the tank bottom is easy to view and is still clean and white after wanding.

So, while I don't know if another TP brand would leave the same volume of shards on the bottom with my style of MH use, I'll do understand how to maintain a full-flowing tank while using Angle Soft. And, since the price is right, as is the comfort factor for me, I'll continue using it.

As an aside, this past week I put one Great Value "Flushable Wipes" in a glass of water and left it for 24 hours to see if it would break down. It didn't. It simply turned into a soggy wad of "cotton-like" material which was even difficult to tear. Perhaps the next "Scientific TP Survey" should also test some brands of flushable wipes.
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« Reply #64 on: June 13, 2015, 10:28:09 AM »
I won't be waiting for a flushable wipe test. I've banned them from every RV bathroom I own (3). While the better half and I both know not to EVER flush one, not everyone is that savvy. I routinely give the potty lecture to new visitors and remind repeat visitors the first few times they visit about the rules of only flushing toilet paper. For some reason the "flushable" on the package makes people think that they are toilet paper too. I've dug two out of the forward head of the boat. It even has a macerator right at the  bottom of the bowl and it can't cut them up. So even though the wife likes to use them for makeup, cleaning, and other stuff, we've totally banned them from the area. We found areas near the toilet rooms for ease of proper use, but when visitors are inside "the room", flushable wipes aren't an option.

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PS, much of the new kleenex type products don't break down either. Toilet paper, only toilet paper goes with #1 and #2 in the toilet.
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« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2015, 10:38:28 AM »
An interesting test but with one major flaw.  How many times are TPs put into pure water?  What effect do the various chemicals have on paper breakdown?  Seems like the bodily fluids would also have a deteriorating effect (just a guess mind you).  Allow me to be the old curmudgeon and say that it was a nice exercise but proved little.  Would never pass the Consumers Report test. LOL.
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« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2015, 09:15:48 PM »
Ahhh Ken, thanks for your post. I actually thought I was testing what I had intended to test until I read your last post.

I had intended to purchase Continelle disintegrating flushable wipes and test them because I read recently that they do, in fact, disintegrate over time.

While shopping Walmart, I was suprised to see that they were available but were at least 25 percent higher then non-disintrigating flushable wipes. During the process I picked the Wally brand, checked the price and decided to buy them for the test.

Now I know that the Wally brand (Great Value) is not the disintegrating type, just simply standard flushable wipes. I suppose this will be the end of my short, scientific career.
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« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2017, 08:40:31 AM »
We took the plunge on a recent 10-day coastal trip here in California.  Out with the 'RV' paper and in with the Charmin (which had the worst results in Betty's test - see previous post/pictures on this tread).  Our overall satisfaction as compared to a 2-ply RV paper...we like the Charmin!!  Not only did we find that we used less 'squares' (with more confidence) but the Charmin was happy to slide right down the side of the toilet bowl.  We've found that the RV paper starts dissolving almost immediately and sometimes grabs the bowl and hangs on (like it knows where it's headed)...

Dumping went normally with our gravity system and our tank read empty when we were done.  Our days of using 'RV' toilet paper are officially over...
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« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2017, 10:44:39 AM »
Hear we go again. It happens once a year.  :-X :'( ;D :D
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« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2017, 11:04:38 AM »
LOL! It's an "80th percentile" thing anyway. Most papers work well enough in most systems for most people. And a few people will have problems with even the best TP in their particular RV's black system. The remainder may benefit from the better-suited TP's, but still probably don't need "RV toilet paper".
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« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2017, 12:03:16 PM »
We have friends that bought a small TT which of course came with a small black tank.  When we finally camped together my buddy was complaining that his tank was so small they only use it for crapping in...and that he was having problems dumping it. 
I've heard the rumor (I hope it's a rumor) about those who pull in to an RV park, connect their sewer hose to the park sewer system and then opening their black tank valve for the duration of their visit!?!?!?  This would be disaster waiting to happen...

It seems the black tank is a largely misunderstood system to new RVers. 

LOL! It's an "80th percentile" thing anyway. Most papers work well enough in most systems for most people. And a few people will have problems with even the best TP in their particular RV's black system. The remainder may benefit from the better-suited TP's, but still probably don't need "RV toilet paper".
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It seems the black tank is a largely misunderstood system to many RVers. 

Including RV dealers and sales people.
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Re: 2014 Scientific Toilet Paper Dissolve Results
« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2017, 10:00:17 AM »
Ok I'm convinced. I will be going back to tp today. Yuck. But it seems nothing is great, I've always liked cottonelle better than charmin but apparently nothing is 100% dissolvable. Hmmm what to buy? Thank you all

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« Reply #73 on: September 23, 2017, 12:37:46 PM »
Buy whatever you like to use the best. I prefer the Kirkland TP and consider the fact that it does not dissolve and stick to the bowl like RV paper does to be a plus. It comes sliding out when I dump the same as it slides down the bowl when I flush with no "bits" sticking to the walls of either the toilet or the tank and sensors. In my opinion using lots of water is all the special treatment required. No tank treatments and no special TP. Heck, I would bet that even flushable wipes would come right out the same way the TP does, not sure I am ready to try it yet though.

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« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2017, 12:30:49 PM »
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