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Mopar1973Man said:
Let me know if you need a hand learning your Ubuntu. I do a fair job of teaching over the phone and internet.
Is it possible to make a server? If so do you have any links to follow?
 
eliallen said:
Is it possible to make a server? If so do you have any links to follow?

Here is the Ubuntu Docs on LAMP (Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP) servers...
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP

Another handy tool I use for server administration is WebMin.
http://www.webmin.com/
Larry N. said:
Mike, I'm not much of a gamer, either, but a friend and I get together for 2-4 hours almost every weekend to fly FSX together and chat (over murmur/mumble -- FOSS VOIP). I towed gliders for him back in the '70s, then later taught part time at his flight school, and we've been friends now for almost 40 years, with a common love of aviation. It lets us explore the country, virtually of course, fly formation, revisit old memories (I've recreated two now-extinct airports in FSX that were favorites of ours), keep up with what's going on with each other (he's in the Dallas area, I'm near Denver), and more, along with having fun.

Neither of us think of this as gaming, but rather it is in much the same sense that we'd fly around together in real life, real airplanes, for fun.

Now that's interesting... I'm not going to knock that.  8) I think it neat idea to share time with a friend flying virtual airplanes and visiting old stomping grounds.

jtcook said:
I have been using Puppy Linux for about 6 years now, when I has a regular laptop I used live cd or dvd I on my second Asus EEE and use a mini sd card or USB stick to boot from. I keep a couple flavors of Puppy around to play with. When I first got the Asus I have now it had (still does) Win 7 starter but it is sooooo slow with only 1 gig of ram but Puppy runs fast and does everything I need it to.

Jim

Puppy Linux is a nice small version of Linux like DSL (Damn Small Linux) Linux.

http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

Might take a peek at DSL just for how small it is. Just for fun here is the full family tree of Linux Distro's
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg
 
Punomatic said:
DW has been a Mac user for years, so I recently got a MacBook Air.  I am working through the learning curve, which for some reason seems steeper on the Mac than it was with Ubuntu. I just don't understand the Mac file system. It is so hard to find files and to work through a path to open them.

If anyone has any questions about MacOS, perhaps another thread.
 
Mopar1973Man, after thinking about it,  I should have said I want to share files. I found  this link .... http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/share-files-between-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
 
Ahhh... Your looking for Samba Server.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide

If The windows drive happens to be on the same machine you can mount and read and write directly to a Windows partition or drive without any software at all. But if your looking to network to a Windows computer then you need Samba on the Linux side.

Still in all I'm not a big fan of networking to a Windows machine nor sharing Windows files back and forth on Linux. This just increases your risk of virus or malicious attack from corrupt Windows file. This why most hardcore Linux users attempt to keep Windows and Linux very separated because now the risk is just about Nil.

Here is a funny example of why Virus Infection are so rare. (No this is not a virus...)
http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html 

Basic Installation

Before attempting to compile this virus make sure you have the correct version of glibc installed, and that your firewall rules are set to ?allow everything?.

1.  Put the attachment into the appropriate directory eg. /usr/src.
2. Type ?tar xvzf evilmalware.tar.gz? to extract the source files for this virus.
3.  ?cd? to the directory containing the virus' source code and type ?./configure? to configure the virus for your system. If you're using ?csh? on an old version of System V, you might need to type ?sh ./configure? instead to prevent ?csh? from trying to execute ?configure? itself.
4.  Type ?make? to compile the package. You may need to be logged in as root to do this.
5. Optionally, type ?make check_payable? to run any self-tests that come with the virus, and send a large donation to an unnumbered Swiss bank account.
6.  Type ?make install? to install the virus and any spyware, trojans pornography, penis enlargement adverts and DDoS attacks that come with it.
7.  You may now configure your preferred malware behaviour in /etc/evilmalware.conf.

Another show of it... (Attachment)

Most all software is install at terminal level and all system wide changes require you to login as a Admin using the "sudo" or Super User DO command. So without the password the no software can be installed. But when using files back in forth between windows you take that risk now. Even worse when you use emulator software like WINE which if setup wrong could infect your Linux.

More on Ubuntu Security.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
 

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Running bodhi on this netbook and have a Raspberry PI running rasbaian on the little arm processor. that is my media center. (mostly just streaming)

I really only read forum's and email. neither machine have a lot of hardware.

I used to be called an Operating System Specialist. Have install many many different systems. (windows servers, sun servers, cisco routers) but haven't been into it much in the last 10 years or so.
 
I guess you can do a lot more with the PI then I am doing with it. I have xbmc on it but there is a tiny hardware issue where it will not play youtube video's and has a software issue where it won't play flv files unless I pay the developer of the Pi for the codec. I just don't want to pay the 5 british pounds for something that works for free on other hardware. other then that it is fine.
I hacked an old RC model of a 57 chevy that I had kicking around the house for 30 years or so and put the Pi in it. looks cool to have the HDMI cable sticking into the door of the car :)

 
Here's an interesting article published the other day that may convince some diehard XP users to switch to Linux Mint, now that XP is an orphan as of today.
 
After playing around with  Ubuntu, the more I use it the better I like it. I deal with the more experienced part of the population (seniors), and I think it is a good replacement. And the price is right.
 
eliallen said:
After playing around with  Ubuntu, the more I use it the better I like it. I deal with the more experienced part of the population (seniors), and I think it is a good replacement. And the price is right.

The problem with the change of software is most people have a hard time relearning a new software kind of like stepping from Windows XP to Windows 8 is quite a wide gap.

Ned said:
Here's an interesting article published the other day that may convince some diehard XP users to switch to Linux Mint, now that XP is an orphan as of today.

Linux Mint tends to have a very close appearance to Windows. Now here is a trick. You could load up Ubuntu and the add the Cinnamon desktop and have the Ubuntu core and Linux Mint controls.
http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1246
 
eliallen said:
Antivirus, Recommendation for Ubuntu.

Can't make any recommendations for AV, but do make sure the firewall is enabled.  I've seen some distros that have it disabled for the default install.  I'm not too concerned as I'm running in virtual machines, but on a real computer, it could be a problem.
 
You don't want to get WindoZ 8. It is not well liked by many. If the Computer comes with
WindoZ8 installed that means that the Computer has the BIOS set so that you can not boot to anything other than Micro-Sh!%t Software (Wi8ndoZ8)
It's best to begin building your own, or upgrading to Linux.
I have been running various versions of Linux for over 12 years. I am presently using PCLinuxOS version of FullMonty from PCLinuxOS.com
Use what you have for a Computer and load PCLinuxOS on it.
I got a version that you can even try out without touching the PC by running it on the DVD drive first. (emember it will be slow because you are running on DVD drive and not the Hard Drive)
If you like it then you can put it on the PC's hard drive, either as a stand along OS or dual boot with WindoZ-XP still on it..
Get it at: http://spout.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/pclinuxos/pclinuxos/live-cd/ and choose the proper
version for your computer (either 32 or 64 bit). Remember it is FREE. All Office products -- in fact everything is FREE!
I am using http://spout.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/pclinuxos/pclinuxos/live-cd/pclinuxos64-kde-fullmonty-2013.12.iso

By the way, this version has 6 predefined Desktops customized for your convenience. 1- Internet, 2- Office, 3- Games, 4- Multimedia, 5- Graphics, and 6- System Admin.

Bob Wes****er
 
I also carry around  a mini sandisk usb with Ubuntu on a keychain.  Works great when not around one of our computers!
 
eliallen said:
Antivirus, Recommendation for Ubuntu.

As long as your not using Windows no anti-virus is required. As for firewall none are required because Ubuntu doesn't have any open ports. Unless your running a server of some sort then you would need a firewall and app armor setup.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
Robert the Bruce said:
You don't want to get WindoZ 8. It is not well liked by many. If the Computer comes with
WindoZ8 installed that means that the Computer has the BIOS set so that you can not boot to anything other than Micro-Sh!%t Software (Wi8ndoZ8)
It's best to begin building your own, or upgrading to Linux.
I have been running various versions of Linux for over 12 years. I am presently using PCLinuxOS version of FullMonty from PCLinuxOS.com
Use what you have for a Computer and load PCLinuxOS on it.
I got a version that you can even try out without touching the PC by running it on the DVD drive first. (emember it will be slow because you are running on DVD drive and not the Hard Drive)
If you like it then you can put it on the PC's hard drive, either as a stand along OS or dual boot with WindoZ-XP still on it..
Get it at: http://spout.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/pclinuxos/pclinuxos/live-cd/ and choose the proper
version for your computer (either 32 or 64 bit). Remember it is FREE. All Office products -- in fact everything is FREE!
I am using http://spout.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/pclinuxos/pclinuxos/live-cd/pclinuxos64-kde-fullmonty-2013.12.iso

By the way, this version has 6 predefined Desktops customized for your convenience. 1- Internet, 2- Office, 3- Games, 4- Multimedia, 5- Graphics, and 6- System Admin.

Bob Wes****er

Very interesting. I'll have to setup a virtual box and check that out...  ;)
 
Just remember that when using VirtualBox, they are behind with their updates due to the lack of pre-knowledge of the kernel updates.  Not really a problem, however you need to keep up on the updates.  If you allow auto updates with Ubuntu, you may need to spend some time cleaning VirtualBox, which is a concern if you really need to use it quickly.....  JS and just a thought.  I love VirtualBox, has allowed us to use our scanner without problem.
 
Mopar1973Man said:
As long as your not using Windows no anti-virus is required. As for firewall none are required because Ubuntu doesn't have any open ports. Unless your running a server of some sort then you would need a firewall and app armor setup.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
Very interesting. I'll have to setup a virtual box and check that out...  ;)

You know,,, Apple used to talk about how the Mac was virus proof too.... Some hackers took it as a personal challange and they had to wipe the egg off their face.. Mac Hackers are not nice at all, they do harm big time.

Likewise any computer that can connect to the internet is vunerable, epically if you use it to download E-mail attachments or other files from the net.. Linux is not as hacked as the expensive stuff.... but I know folks who have hacked it.  (They are nice hackers though, Do no damage, and do not rob and steal either) .

Have used several LINUX systems in the past remotely and every last one of 'em got hacked.
 
John From Detroit said:
You know,,, Apple used to talk about how the Mac was virus proof too.... Some hackers took it as a personal challange and they had to wipe the egg off their face.. Mac Hackers are not nice at all, they do harm big time.

Likewise any computer that can connect to the internet is vunerable, epically if you use it to download E-mail attachments or other files from the net.. Linux is not as hacked as the expensive stuff.... but I know folks who have hacked it.  (They are nice hackers though, Do no damage, and do not rob and steal either) .

Have used several LINUX systems in the past remotely and every last one of 'em got hacked.
There are a half a dozen companies that make anti-virus for Linux. There must be a reason why. But the Linux lovers won't admit to it because it makes the "Linux is faster, cheaper and safer" line into the laughing stock that it is.
 
  • Ok... Anti-virus for Linux issue...

    First off Linux software isn't like Microsoft at all. All software is open-source so anyone is allowed to download the source code and review for back doors, virus issues, etc. With Linux there is THOUSANDS of eyes looking over the code daily.

    As for software downloading. All software comes from one repository basically (you can add others but not suggested). Like Ubuntu has a master repository that all software is checked for security issues before being released. So once again THOUSANDS of eyes are looking over the code. (Attachment below)

    As for actually installing a virus you would have to... (Joke but how hard it is)
    http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html

    As for Ubuntu Security...
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
    Do not believe the suggestion that the Linux community is complacent or "behind the times" in terms of viruses, or any other security issue. Linux developers have not "ignored" viruses, rather the OS is built to be highly resistant to them and since the code is "Open" there are literally thousands of eyes watching ...

    Reasons AGAINST antivirus on Ubuntu:

    *  They scan primarily for Windows viruses.
    *  There is a high rate of false positives.
    *    Isolation/inoculation is poor.
    *    And currently there are no known active Linux viruses (so there is essentially nothing to detect).

    Reasons FOR antivirus on Ubuntu:

    *  You are running a file or mail server with Windows clients.
    *  You wish to scan files before transferring them, by email, flash drive, etc., to a Windows machine.

    Once again as long as your not using Windows software you have no virus issues. Since I don't have Windows installed on any computers I'm safe. But where the problem is people that just can't live with Windows and then dual boot the computer with Windows and Linux. The other problem is Linux can read and Windows files openly and share back and forth so if a user happen to share a Windows file in WINE and installed it that was infected BOOM! Once again also long as you not using WINE you should be fine.

    As for Ubuntu Blueprints
    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu

    WINE...
    http://www.winehq.org
 

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