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justpassin

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Don't fulltime
« on: May 02, 2014, 07:16:26 AM »
    I'm not trying to judge anyone just curious why
anyone would want to fulltime? Why set up in a park
and live there in a RV? Isn't that the same as a house,
just the walls are thinner?
     Someone help me to understand.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2014, 07:25:15 AM »
A wise person once said, "If you have to ask you'd never understand". Not being a FT RVer myself all I can safely ASSume is that it's the lifestyle that matters. The ability to move on whim, to see the sights...
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2014, 07:29:20 AM »
Most (or at least many) people who full time don't just set up in a park and stay there, Rather, they move around the country. They stay anywhere from a few days to a few months in each location.

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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2014, 07:41:13 AM »
Full-timing has different meanings to different people.  Most of us would not consider someone who sets up in a park and never moves to be full-timers but that person does live "full time" in an RV.  However, there are quite a few full-timers who live in one location in the winter and another in the summer and don't travel anywhere other than to go from one place to the other.  Personally, I would view them as snowbirds rather than full-timers.

My wife and I have been full-timing for 3.5 years and, although we stay put for several months in the winter, we travel throughout the rest of the year. We've yet to return to the same place in the summer.  I guess some day we'll run out of "new" places to go to, but that's still a ways off.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2014, 07:44:50 AM »
I was a full timer for 10 years. During that time I visited all 48 of the lower 48 states. I visited all 46 of the National Parks in the lower 48. In my signature is a link to my photographs. Go there and look at my photos for a while and see the sights I have seen in the last ten years. I could go on and on about all the things I have seen, places I have been and people I have met. What have you done in the last ten years?
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2014, 07:53:00 AM »
In the 16+ years that we lived full time in our motorhome we saw more of the US than most people see in a lifetime.  We visited 49 states, made more friends than you could in any neighborhood, and we still didn't see it all.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2014, 01:31:35 PM »
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we saw more of the US than most people see in a lifetime.

Ditto that!!!!

After seeing the places we've seen and meeting the people we've met, my question would be "If you're in a position that you can do that, why would you not full-time?"

-Roni

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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2014, 01:39:33 PM »
I'll answer the question directly.  I'm single, and for the last 10 years or so I've been living in my RV, mostly in a fixed park while I work fulltime.  But I also take off for extended vacations, and that means I just pack up and go.   When I leave the park my rent payments stop, I can then apply that money towards travel instead of trying to fund a vacation while also supporting a fixed residence.

Besides, in temperate climates living in an RV is like living in an efficiency apartment.  Having done both, I much prefer living in an RV.  There's space between me and my neighbor and we don't share common walls, floors or ceilings.   Having lived in a couple of apartments, I find RVers to be much more considerate of their neighbors than the typical apartment dweller.   Loud music is the exception, not the rule, and there's no creaking bedsprings from the upstairs neighbor or the sound of my other neighbor's headboard hitting the common wall between our bedrooms in the middle of the night. <g>

I started living in an RV when I moved to the San Francisco area in 2000 in the middle of the dot-com boom.  Real estate prices rose so rapidly the only purchase I could qualify for within commuting distance of my job was a condo, and I'd had enough of apartment life.  I had a 5th wheel I used for vacation travel, so I moved into it intending to buy property when the real estate market settled down.   But it never did, and I wound up liking the RV lifestyle.

Plus the cost of living in a RV park is a half to a third of what it would cost to rent an apartment, at least here in CA.  The difference went into my rainy day, travel and retirement fund.  I've taken numerous extended vacations including two month long trips to Australia, and I will be financially secure when I retire in another couple of years.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2014, 01:55:30 PM »
/\  That's a good answer.   :)
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2014, 02:01:26 PM »
Painting another picture for you:

Yesterday, we left our RV site that included a full outdoor kitchen (such a blessing when it's hot!) and a patio almost twice the size of the RV. If I stepped off the back of the patio, I'd be standing on a beautifully landscaped golf course with waterfalls, flowers, a family of ducks and gorgeous mountains for a backdrop.

Last night, on our 4th anniversary of full-timing we sat in a Mexican restaurant listening to live vocals from a very talented singer, while we stared at the London Bridge, that crosses the Colorado River in Arizona. While today, just outside the RV are beautiful mountains surrounding the same river.

Tonight we'll be in the Grand Canyon and the day after that Lord willing, we'll be in the mountains of Colorado visiting very dear friends we made while full-timing.

-Roni


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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2014, 02:16:14 PM »
......... made more friends than you could in any neighborhood, and we still didn't see it all.

That's RIGHT Ned... We STILL haven't met yet..  :)
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2014, 02:31:36 PM »
That's RIGHT Ned... We STILL haven't met yet..  :)

We've made a lot of friends here that we haven't met, yet ;)
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2014, 02:07:56 AM »
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence unless you have to cut it.  We have vacationed, retired, fulltimed and then became vacationers again.  I like the extra garage and space of our stick and brick.  Then again when I am pulling weeds I wonder what I have left.  It is a personal choice and each has its advantages.  If you are asking the question then you might try it.  Life is short and you have to live it doing what is best for you.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2014, 03:28:32 AM »
    I'm not trying to judge anyone just curious why
anyone would want to fulltime? Why set up in a park
and live there in a RV? Isn't that the same as a house,
just the walls are thinner?
     Someone help me to understand.
How easily can you move your home around?

The idea that one can chase the best weather for the time of year and not be stuck at the same location for years at a time all sound good to me.

I ain't a full timer, but have two homes 225 miles apart in different states plus an RV, so I can get by this way.

Being stuck in one place for life is what I cannot understand.

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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2014, 04:50:06 AM »
The original poster "JUSTPASSIN" sure received explanations that should allow an understanding of the WHY!

And what a "moniker", JUSTPASSIN. Sure seems applicable for an RVer....... even a Fulltimer.

Personally, I would love to be a "fulltimer" but my wife want's to live in a STICK and BRICK home. Soooo, when possible I travel for ten, twenty, or thirty days at a time by myself.

What's down that road, what's over there? What a pleasure to just be as free as a ???? well hell, as free as a FULLTIMER.

God willing, I may get to experience that feeling for more than days at one time.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2014, 07:16:03 AM »
This was are first year retired and we asked the same question to the full timers we met in Florida. Just like you we are trying to understand giving up the house. The answer that we got many time was that is was liberating to remove yourself from the day to day needs of owning a home. They also said the hardest thing was parting with the stuff. But it was just stuff and now they do not have to take care of it. We are still too fond of our stuff to part with it yet. It is to each there own I suppose.

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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2014, 08:47:39 AM »
One of the best things about it is if you don't like the neighborhood, start your house and move. If you're still working, don't care for the job or local economy, again, just start your house and move. :)

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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2014, 09:36:58 AM »
    I'm not trying to judge anyone just curious why
anyone would want to fulltime? Why set up in a park
and live there in a RV? Isn't that the same as a house,
just the walls are thinner?
     Someone help me to understand.

You know, there is something about this poster that seems to point to the need to have confrontation between those who reply.  I have followed several of his/her post topics and each and every one seems to set up and invite replies which eventually result in some bad feelings between posters.  Such other posts as on Walmart parking, Dogs in campgrounds and this one are what have led me to this conclusion.  I may be wrong - have been numerous times before in my life but I will just refrain from joining in on such posts that invite bashing.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2014, 11:12:14 AM »
We don't fulltime, but dreamed about it when younger, although not for very long. We periodically re-visit the question, especially when we're on long trips, but always agree it's not for us or our lifestyle. OTOH we know many folks who have fulltimed for years, and wouldn't have it any other way.

One observation from our 20 years here on The RV Forum is that, sooner or later, life events take an unexpected turn, derailing or modifying the fulltime lifestyle. Health and mobility issues are just a couple of reasons for unexpected changes. Just curious if fulltimers typically have an exit strategy for the day when they're no longer able or no longer wish to continue the lifestyle.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2014, 11:45:28 AM »
We didn't have a specific exit strategy in mind when we began full timing in 1997, but I had a block of stock that was a solid performer and had little downside risk that I earmarked for a future land purchase.  We took 16 years to see most of the US and when we finally decided on where we would like to eventually settle, we looked for, and purchased, a lot that we were able to put 2 full hookup RV sites on.  We spent much of the next few winters there, getting to know our neighbors and the area.  The lot purchase and development were funded by that block of stock, just as planned.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2014, 11:47:58 AM »
We had an exit plan and executed it when we bought a house two summers ago. We hadn't planned on leaving the lifestyle quite yet but as you say things change.
In our case it was partly health and partly the fact that mentally we were ready.
At first we planned to continue on as snowbirds but after one last winter in AZ we decided we were ready to sell the rig and settle down.

We have friends that did not have a real exit plan - mostly because they did not have the financial resources to make one. A year ago health forced them to move in with their daughter in a rented apartment in upstate NY and let their motor home be repossessed.
They loved the west, are glad they had 11 full timing years and are adjusting.

Neither one is happy with how they will spend the rest of their lives, especially after enjoying the freedom of the full timing lifestyle for those 11 years but it is a choice they made because they wanted to full time so much.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2014, 12:01:40 PM »
We don't full-time.  In fact, recently we've barely part-timed due to health issues.  But, things are looking up and we plan on running the wheels off our new ERA.  However, neither of us are suited for full-timing, we don't think.  We tried moving in with a kid recently and planned to sell our sticks & bricks.  The idea was to free us up so we could hit the road at the drop of a hat.  But, both of us found we missed our "stuff"...just couldn't bring ourselves to divorcing from our old lifestyle.  So, we moved back home, on the lake, and decided we'd just slowly trim down our "stuff" so the kids don't have such a mess to deal with later and, also, get the S&B well configured for months of "shutdown" time.  I figure we have maybe 3-4 more years of travel left in our worn out carcasses, but only if we can hit "home" and recoup periodically.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2014, 03:09:20 PM »
As others have said, most fulltimers see the country and enjoy the freedom of being able to go where you want to and when you want to go.  Very few go to one place and settle in there.  Many of us like to travel but not by airplane and hotel which we did while working.  We much prefer to take our home with us because we have our own food, bathroom, bed, room for hobbies, computers, etc.

We used to talk about fulltiming but decided we like to return to a permanent place.  We can go off for months to attend rallies and travel around sightseeing or visiting family, but it's always good to return home to our "stuff" which we're not willing to disperse.  Some people want to fulltime forever but sometimes life events intervene.  Physical disabilities frequently are the game changer.  Meanwhile we all enjoy being fulltimers, longtimers, or vacationers, whichever fits our own particular lifestyle.

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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2014, 10:44:52 PM »
You know, there is something about this poster that seems to point to the need to have confrontation between those who reply.  I have followed several of his/her post topics and each and every one seems to set up and invite replies which eventually result in some bad feelings between posters.  Such other posts as on Walmart parking, Dogs in campgrounds and this one are what have led me to this conclusion.  I may be wrong - have been numerous times before in my life but I will just refrain from joining in on such posts that invite bashing.

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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2014, 11:02:55 AM »
The other full timing litmus test is that both of you enjoy it. We full timed for almost 6 years but Sue was ready for a nest after 4 years.


We found a good compromise in our search and ended up with our Arizona Room home in Surprise that is our base for six months a year and spending the other six months or so on the road avoiding AZ summer temperatures. With a few winter RVing excursions I don't go too far into RV relapse. ;D

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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2014, 04:23:45 PM »
Thanks everyone for all the replies.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2014, 10:36:01 PM »
    I'm not trying to judge anyone just curious why
anyone would want to fulltime? Why set up in a park
and live there in a RV? Isn't that the same as a house,
just the walls are thinner?
     Someone help me to understand.

Because for most of us it is not living in one place.  We move around on a regular basis and have never considered staying on one place for more than a month.
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2014, 07:57:08 PM »
I'm not living in an apartment. I don't have to be too worried about bothering others or others bothering me. No one on top of me (all though it feels like they are sometimes since the lots are so close).

Also when I move (which I've had to do about 15 times in my life having had that many apartments) everything is right where it was when I "get there".

And I can modify my "home" as I see fit (unlike an apartment). Don't have to deal with the additional costs of a home.

Also I like the feel of camping. It's fun.

There are certainly many downsides though.

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« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2014, 11:00:15 AM »
Just got my utility bill.  A bit shy of $600.  But heck, that's for 2 months.  And, it includes both water and electric.  Also trash and sewer services.  Before we left, I paid a plumber $600 to replace a section of sewer line.  Before that, about $500 to replace a kitchen faucet and garbage disposal.  Normally a diy project, but this one took an experienced plumber more than 3 hours.  Our furnace and air conditioner have served us well but at 35 years of age need to be replaced.  Estimates are from $8 to $12,000.  Before we left I debated cutting the grass.  It's probably going to be half dead when we return from our current adventure.  Last time it only cost $1,500 to re-sod the back yard.  Oh the automatic sprinklers worked just fine.  But the watering restrictions place us between a rock and a hard spot.  So, re-sodding the back yard a year ago on top of re-sodding both the front and back yards 10 years ago and lots and lots and lots of water probably $25,000.  In fact, it's likely way north of $25,000.   

I also debated whether or not to do some repairs on a few of our 60 year old wooden windows.   10 years ago, I removed, sanded and repainted every one of them.  I really don't want to do that again.   Actually at 71, there's a lot of homeowner type things I don't want to do again.  If I lived full time in a motorhome, I'd save at least $15,000 a year in expense on a home that is mortgage free.  If we full times and rented the home, I'd have to determine what to do with that $15,000 plus the rental income on the home.  Still, it's great having a home.  If I was starting out, I'd do it all over again.  But after 3 homes and some decent profits, I'd like to see what's happening from a window that has a different view every now and then.   
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Re: Don't fulltime
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2014, 11:23:00 AM »
Back in the 80/90s I had a friend who had what he called the Law of Requisite choices: You can live only so long as TOTAL choices is greater than FATAL choices.. Alas, he ran out of choices..  But the point is choice is good. Some folks choose Full time, Some part time, Some Hotel rooms when they travel.. To each his own preference and the sad thing is more states do not allow full time travel.  Michigan, for example (My home state) requires a Sticks and Bricks type address. No PO box.

Some of the facts that made up my decision:  I wanted to SEE THE USA.. You may remember (if you are old enough) The Chevy adds from, I think the 60's "See the U S A in your Cherovlet"  Well.  this rolling house is a Damon, and the chassis is a Workhorse.. but the ENGINE.. That's a chevy 8.1 L Vortec...  So you see, I'm simply following instructions. :)

I do not mind setting up and taking down and usually no longer than 2 weeks between park changes.

I have two memberships. these give me (Summer) 2 weeks in system and one out (Each park) winter I can only use one of them,  After initial purchase the memberships cost me 95/month... This includes parking for the Motor home, Water, Sewer, Electric and Wi-Fi..  I buy around 120 to 180 worth of propane annually (10-15/month)

Winters I spend an average of 140/month more for parking (So it's still only 135/month).

Phone: What I pay for my cell, with data plan for the odd times when the park does not provide, is about what I paid for the land line and data plan at home.

UTILITIES used to cost me around 250/month (Water/Sewer/Gas/Electric) some months (Very hot/cold) it coudl break 300.
(This is close to a month here at Cathead Creek, 370 on a 50 amp site)

Taxes on the house were over 3000 per year.. The motor home has a sticker price right close to the hosue.. Taxes are 382 per year.

A savings of roughly 3,000 I burn about 2,000 in gasoline moving it about (that is max) at this time.

So.. As you can see, I'm saving about a kilo-buck a year, and enjoyhing it more,, AND.. What's more.. When I bought my S&B it was a nice neigh borhood.. About 2 weeks before I put the key in the ignition and pulled out the gate for the last time PERIOD, the house next door, which was sold to a management company and was occupied by a bunch of pigs selling dope, got shot up rather well.. Then a couple weeks after I pulled out the gate it got firebombed.

I get into a neighborhood like that with the motor home.. I do not reach for the ignition switch (I mean it's already on) I just lower the right foot a bit and beat the blazes outta-there.    Way easier to move if the neighborhood goes to .... well  POT (in the Controlled substance sense of the word).

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