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Larry N.

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Re: Beginner guitar
« Reply #90 on: August 19, 2014, 06:58:09 AM »
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Tom doesn't have bridge pins, they are only on nylon string guitars.

Well, my Takamine 12-string and Yamaha 6-string are both steel string guitars, and they have bridge pins, as do the other steel string units I've had my hands on.
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Re: Beginner guitar
« Reply #91 on: August 19, 2014, 07:25:49 AM »
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Are you saying this is an inappropriate community?

Not at all, and I wasn't referring to this or any other online forum. Looks like another of my attempts at (self-deprecating) humor didn't work, or at least didn't come out right.

FWIW I removed only one string at a time, so the bridge pins went back into their original holes.

I've changed (nylon) strings on ukuleles before, but this was the first time changing steel strings. It looked a lot easier on YouTube  :-[
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Re: Beginner guitar
« Reply #92 on: August 19, 2014, 08:44:34 AM »
Well, my Takamine 12-string and Yamaha 6-string are both steel string guitars, and they have bridge pins, as do the other steel string units I've had my hands on.
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« Reply #93 on: August 19, 2014, 11:06:24 AM »
It was understood as humor, and returned with same.   :P
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« Reply #94 on: August 19, 2014, 06:33:27 PM »
Had my second guitar lesson today. My mentor played my instrument and thought it was 100x better than with the OEM strings, although the one remaining OEM string is still a dud. Tomorrow he and I are going to meet with the dealer tech to have him adjust the truss rod (if necessary) and install the Elixir strings.
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« Reply #95 on: August 20, 2014, 01:22:17 PM »
This guy has it right!
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« Reply #96 on: August 20, 2014, 05:10:27 PM »
Had a good visit with the luthier/tech at the dealership.

The 9-42 DR Zebra soft strings I'd installed had made a difference, but I had him install the 12-53 Elixir soft strings. The bridge was cracked, and he replaced it (he actually tweaked a bridge to optimize it). He also checked out the action, and confirmed the truss rod was adjusted correctly.

This is a whole different instrument! My guitar guru was along for the ride, and he had the same reaction when he played the guitar after the above was completed. We went back to his house and played around for a while, and the verdict was the same. I'm a convert!

Thanks to everyone for the advice. We (I) finally came out the other end.
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Re: Beginner guitar
« Reply #97 on: August 20, 2014, 05:52:41 PM »
On to Carnegie Hall...

A guy got in a NY cab and asked "do you know how to get to Carnegie Hall?", and the cabbie replied "you practice!".
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« Reply #98 on: August 20, 2014, 06:18:20 PM »
Not going to say I told you so...........  :-X

I think you're probably talking about the saddle.  The saddle is the actual bone or plastic piece that the strings rest on.  If the bridge was cracked it would take more than a few minutes to fix.

On one of my trips to NYC I asked the waitress in a deli that question.  She looked me over and said "You ain't going there no matter how much you practice sweetheart." 
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« Reply #99 on: August 20, 2014, 06:23:31 PM »
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... you're probably talking about the saddle.  The saddle is the actual bone or plastic piece that the strings rest on.  If the bridge was cracked it would take more than a few minutes to fix.

Whatever you wish to call it. It's the only thing the strings rest on between the nut and the "bridge pins". I said nothing about "a few minutes to fix"; The guy was called in by his boss to take care of me, and he was working on it for an hour or so (I didn't time him, because we went to lunch).
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« Reply #100 on: August 20, 2014, 09:13:38 PM »
I've had a couple of bridges pulled off & repaired.  It was a matter of weeks, not hours in both cases.

But my intention was not to step on your toes Tom.  Just offering support.
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« Reply #101 on: August 20, 2014, 09:19:27 PM »
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... my intention was not to step on your toes Tom.  Just offering support.

I took it the way it was intended, and a big thanks. I was just confused by the term "saddle".
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Re: Beginner guitar
« Reply #102 on: August 22, 2014, 12:52:34 PM »
I have to say that I'm really enjoying the sound and feel of the Yamaha with the Elixir strings. It's going to be a while before muscle memory kicks in, but I'm looking forward to accompanying myself on guitar.

Meanwhile, uke band practice starts in just over a week; That's when my brain will fry. Last year, I learned to play banjo during the summer hiatus and, when our uke season re-started, I caught myself playing banjo chords on a uke. Didn't take long to get myself straightened out, but I suspect this year will be deja vu all over again  ;D
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« Reply #103 on: August 29, 2014, 10:05:28 PM »
Tom,

Here's something you might enjoy.  Dr. Sparkles and his Mom.  I've known both for many years and never knew she could play clarinet!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=_8JW_siG5rc
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« Reply #104 on: August 30, 2014, 12:02:16 AM »
Thanks. Wish I could play without a lead sheet. Vocals and rhythm come intuitively, and my ears tell me when chord changes are coming, but I have no clue what that next chord is. Of course, my ears tell me if I play a wrong chord  :o
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« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2014, 09:11:32 AM »
And everyone else knows too!   ;)

I spend many hours every summer making lead sheets for my workshops.  You're not alone.
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« Reply #106 on: August 30, 2014, 09:48:56 AM »
I've created and modified my share of lead sheets, but I have to find the 'right' chords by playing 'wrong' ones. So my lead sheets start out without chords and I add them one at a time after playing and believing what my ears tell me  :-[
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« Reply #107 on: August 30, 2014, 10:03:39 PM »
I've got a few hundred lead sheets that might be suitable for your studies if you're interested.
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« Reply #108 on: August 30, 2014, 10:24:09 PM »
Thanks. What genres? I have several thousand lead sheets here, but not necessarily ones I'd want to play on guitar.
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« Reply #109 on: August 30, 2014, 10:38:18 PM »
Mostly country, some jazz standards, some rock.  And some that that defy classification.

 I was speaking only of ones where I have a soft copy, I.e. Word document.  I have thousands of printed ones filed alpha-pathetically.  Meaning out of order.  It would take months to make a list of all the papers.  Big job with very little reward value.
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Re: Beginner guitar
« Reply #110 on: October 06, 2014, 08:08:17 PM »
I'm enjoying my Yamaha guitar, but wanted to get a "cheaper" one that I can "throw in the car" and not worry about it being stolen. I played an el cheapo that someone was selling, but figured I wouldn't be happy with it.

Today, while visiting my favorite music store, I played several makes/models and settled for another Yamaha. I probably should have had them put Elixir strings on, but I decided to play it for a while and have the strings changed later.
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« Reply #111 on: October 06, 2014, 09:31:38 PM »
Thus it begins.  Soon there will be enough guitars to open up your own shop.  😀
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« Reply #112 on: October 24, 2014, 07:30:52 PM »
It didn't take long to figure out that the stock strings on the 'new' (inexpensive) guitar needed changing. According to the Yamaha web site, they buy their strings on bulk rolls, but I can't figure out why they'd use this el cheapo stuff on all their guitars.

This morning I Received a call from a uke band member asking if I wanted to accompany him to my favorite music store. I jumped at the opportunity and grabbed the guitar. He was having a low-G string put on his uke. I had them install the same Elixir 'light' strings I recently had them put on the other guitar. It sure sounds and feels better.

While there, I wandered into a sub-store owned by the uncle of the main store owner. He has a room full of collector and otherwise expensive guitars. He was encouraging me to pick up and play some of these wonderful instruments, but I was so paranoid that all I could do was look at the price tags. If you have $XX,000 to spend on a guitar, this is the store for you.
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« Reply #113 on: October 24, 2014, 08:44:01 PM »
Trust me Tom, I know where to pay too much for a guitar.

Like this one : http://www.gryphonstrings.com/instpix/43877/index.php

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« Reply #114 on: October 24, 2014, 08:53:49 PM »
I don't doubt. This guy had a "wall of Martins".
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« Reply #115 on: October 24, 2014, 09:19:53 PM »
Martins are actually relatively inexpensive compared to some of the small luthiers stuff.  I played a $20,000 Custom with the luthier who built it hovering over me.  As soon as he told me how much he wanted for it I very carefully handed it back to him and refused to even touch it.  (It actually didn't sound as good as my old workhorse Taylor grand auditorium)

On the other hand they're more affordable than RVs!  And they rarely break for no reason at all.   :o
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« Reply #116 on: October 25, 2014, 06:03:22 AM »
The majority of instruments in this store are custom &/or made by small builders, some local. I didn't recognize most of the names. I made a comment about the $xxx inventory he was carrying, and the sub-store owner explained it was all consignment; Some from 'collectors', and some from the builders. It was all too rich for me, and I kept inching my way towards the door before I inadvertently scratched or otherwise damaged something.
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