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Jim Johnson

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Route Info
« on: April 14, 2005, 04:02:35 PM »
Does anyone have any experience on the following routes with a M/H and toad?  US 491 from Gallop, NM north  through Cortez to Monticello.    If that is not suitable how about 491 to Shiprock and then west to get to191.   Just looking for a different way to Moab.

Appreciate any help.
Jim

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Ron

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2005, 04:23:46 PM »
Was a good road when we was over it a couple years ago.
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Re: Route Info
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2005, 04:24:36 PM »
Does anyone have any experience on the following routes with a M/H and toad?  US 491 from Gallop, NM north  through Cortez to Monticello.    If that is not suitable how about 491 to Shiprock and then west to get to191.   Just looking for a different way to Moab.

Appreciate any help.

Jim,

Where do you see US 491? All I see on my map north out of Gallop is US 666. I've taken I-25 north out of ABQ to US 550 to US 64 at Bloomfield then US 64 to US 666 at Shiprock. 666 will take you to 191. I can recommend the Ute Mountain Casino RV Park just south of Towaoc Colorado.

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2005, 04:31:20 PM »
The route Jim is talking about use to be called 666 but was changed to, Sorry do to CRS I nor Sam can remmeber.  We went from Gallap thru Moab a couple years ago.
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Re: Route Info
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2005, 06:00:26 PM »
Does anyone have any experience on the following routes with a M/H and toad?  US 491 from Gallop, NM north  through Cortez to Monticello.    If that is not suitable how about 491 to Shiprock and then west to get to191.   Just looking for a different way to Moab.


Jim

Leaving Moab last year we turned onto US666 at Monticello and took it thru Cortez and Shiprock to Gallup. No issues. Just fuel up before leaving Gallup. Diesel prices were pretty high (would love to see them now  :D :D) and stations far apart.
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Jim Johnson

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2005, 09:09:46 PM »
Thanks for the replies.  We will do it then.  By the way, we had dinner with Melvin and Sharon Baker tonight and they send their best.  Tried to talk them into coming to Moab with me but could not.  He says he is saving his money after Jim Dick made him buy all the toys!! And he is still looking. 
Jim

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2005, 11:11:46 AM »
Thanks for the replies.  We will do it then.  By the way, we had dinner with Melvin and Sharon Baker tonight and they send their best.  Tried to talk them into coming to Moab with me but could not.  He says he is saving his money after Jim Dick made him buy all the toys!! And he is still looking. 

Jim

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2005, 09:06:30 PM »
Bernie
No Problem as long as I have you there to reel us in as we go by.
Melvin

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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2005, 09:37:07 PM »
Jim:
Are you saying that 666 out of Gallup is now called 491? I know that old US 666 in Eastern Arizona was changed to US 191 many years ago due to the significince of the numbers 666 but New Mexico didn't change their portion at that time. US 666 from Clifton Arizona North for about 110 miles was refered to as the devils Highway or the devils backbone. Pure misery in a car but about five fantastic hours on a motorcycle.
Melvin

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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2005, 01:04:25 PM »
Bernie
No Problem as long as I have you there to reel us in as we go by.
Melvin

H iMel, didn't realize you were on the Forum. Glad to see you here. I'll keep an eye out for you :D :D
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2005, 01:11:07 PM »
Jim:
Are you saying that 666 out of Gallup is now called 491? I know that old US 666 in Eastern Arizona was changed to US 191 many years ago due to the significince of the numbers 666 but New Mexico didn't change their portion at that time. US 666 from Clifton Arizona North for about 110 miles was refered to as the devils Highway or the devils backbone. Pure misery in a car but about five fantastic hours on a motorcycle.
Melvin


Mel

Just checked Yahoo maps and it shows US 491 north to Colorado where it is still US 666. My map data bases are a couple of years old and only show US 666. 666/491 from Gallup to Monticello is good driving.
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Jim Dick

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2005, 08:20:39 PM »
Thanks for the replies.  We will do it then.  By the way, we had dinner with Melvin and Sharon Baker tonight and they send their best.  Tried to talk them into coming to Moab with me but could not.  He says he is saving his money after Jim Dick made him buy all the toys!! And he is still looking. 

Jim,

I didn't even have to twist Melvins arm. He's an easy sell. ;D ;D

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2005, 07:03:21 PM »
Mel & Sharon,

Good to see you here! Stop by QZ again next year; we'll probably have more brats! - and we'll save the smokey side of the fire for you ;D
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2005, 08:59:22 PM »
Karl
You're not going to use Veg Alls in the soup again next year are you?
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2005, 09:16:23 PM »
Jim it is expensive hanging out around you and Ron. I had my eye on a sweet little Nikon until Sharon raised her left eyebrow, if it had been the right eyebrow I might of pushed it. After all I am a man who knows his limitations and I didn't think that one was winable so I settled for a nice little Olympus.
Mel

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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2005, 10:09:29 PM »
Well, Melvin, there is nothing to be ashamed of with "a nice little Olympus."  Depending on mode, they have good to excellent "glass."\

Ciao,

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2005, 12:43:32 AM »

Hi all,
Figured I would chime in on this since I live in Cortez, Co about 1.5 miles east of Hwy 666/491.
Hwy 666 was change to 491 in NM, CO  & Ut because the Governor  of NM wanted it changed because 666 was the Number of the Beast & was called by many the Devils Highway. He also got the Federal Gov in on making the change because it is a North south Hwy 7 they are mostly odd numbered Hwys. Even Numbered Hwy are east west Hwys.

I drive from Cortez down to Gallup & up to Monticello all the time to do jobs.
666/491 is good road all the way with a few rough spots.
Mileage going 666/491 from Gallup - Cortez - Monticello - Moab is about 250 miles.

The other route mentioned Gallup - Shiprock - Hwy 64 to 191 - Monticello - Moab is about 280 miles.
Plus there is Major rod work being done ON 191 between Blanding & Monticello. Expect delayS, very narrow sections & sections of dirt road.
So I Recommend taking 666/495 all the way.
Fuel will be cheapest in Gallup most likely.

Mike
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Karl

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2005, 07:08:12 AM »
Mel,

You're cruel and off my "A" list unless you volunteer to cut, chop, and dice all the FRESH veggies with the 1" pen knife I'll give you to use. And no, you can't use a food processor or chain saw either :P
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2005, 09:40:58 AM »


The other route mentioned Gallup - Shiprock - Hwy 64 to 191 - Monticello - Moab is about 280 miles.
Plus there is Major rod work being done ON 191 between Blanding & Monticello. Expect delayS, very narrow sections & sections of dirt road.
So I Recommend taking 666/495 all the way.


Mike

That doesn't sound good. Those of us coming up from the Phoenix area would normally take 191. Could you suggest any alternates or detours to avoid the construction that aren't mega mile affairs? ??? ???
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Alaskansnowbirds

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2005, 11:28:27 PM »
That doesn't sound good. Those of us coming up from the Phoenix area would normally take 191. Could you suggest any alternates or detours to avoid the construction that aren't mega mile affairs? ??? ???

Bernie,

Plugging the trip into Mapsource, from Camp Verde, taking 160 all the way to 666/491 then up to Cortez then over to Monticello added 61 miles. If we go that way we'll go from Camp Verde to the Ute Mountain RV Park, just south of Cortez, then on in to Moab. I don't see any other way to bypass the construction.

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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2005, 09:38:38 AM »

Plugging the trip into Mapsource, from Camp Verde, taking 160 all the way to 666/491 then up to Cortez then over to Monticello added 61 miles. If we go that way we'll go from Camp Verde to the Ute Mountain RV Park, just south of Cortez, then on in to Moab. I don't see any other way to bypass the construction.


Don

I'm not sure the 1 1/2 hours of extra driving time for that long of a detour is worth not just putting up with the delays. Also, that route is no where near as scenic as 191. Of course, if you are looking to fit in that casino stop in Cortez, that's another story ;D ;D
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MikeCoke

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Re: Route Info
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2005, 11:12:39 PM »
If it were me I would take my chance & not take the 60  mile reroute around the road work.
The delay really depends on when you get there if you arrive you might get there with no wait or if your luck is like mine you will be the first one they stop so you have the full delay. There may be some unpaved sections but you will be going real slow so that should be no problem.

If you decide to come through Cortez & stop at the Ute Mountain Casino RV park it is a nice park. Full hookup sites are $19.99 W/E $17.99.
Also if you have not been to a Colorado Casino our gaming is call Limited stakes gambling, that means the most you can bet at one time is $5.00

Mike
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Re: Route Info
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2005, 07:41:11 AM »
Mike,

Worse than being first in line is being last, behind some yokel that drives 15 mph. All you can do is watch the line pull away miles ahead of you! >:(
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2005, 08:46:43 AM »
Mike

I agree that the detour wouldn't be worth the 61 miles. Just downloaded current construction into my new Streets & Trips and the construction zone looks to be only about 5 miles long just south of Monticello. We'll chance it.
Bernie & Marlene Dobrin
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2005, 11:14:12 AM »
Karl you're a HARD man!

 But just so you will know what a gentle person I am: one who wouldn't think of causing any trouble, I will not mention to Bob what you did with the rocks of his fire ring.

You  have a good time at Moab. I think Sharon and I might be making a mistake by not joining you there.

Melvin

 

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