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grassy

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2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« on: February 04, 2015, 07:31:32 AM »
At a recent RV show, there was a push on 5th wheel trailers for 1/2 tons...   some  I would have argued. i think the thought is that if the truck has power enough to pull it, than it is OK.

When we travel, I am carrying with me the most important people in my life (pets too :) ) so I err on safety.

When I was looking for a tow-able 5th for my RAM, I came across these two companies. Until my DW vetoed them, I was ready to make a  purchase.

Here they are..

From Canada

http://escapetrailer.com/trailers/the-21-escape/

And one from The USA

http://www.scamptrailers.com/showroom/19-deluxe-trailers.html#!Scamp_19ft_Deluxe_LayoutA_01

hope this helps someone out looking for the same thing...

Grassy

2001 Freightliner FL60 Sport Chassis, 3126b, Jake, Air... Brakes, Cab & Rear Suspension, Ultra Shift
2010 Northwood Arctic Fox 29-5T (Silver Fox Edition)

longhaul

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2015, 08:15:48 PM »
You must have a awful small Ram for a 3500 lb single axle 5th wheel trailer and a 4500 GVWR TT.
These two would fit in with a small 6600 GVWR 1500 truck with a small V6 engine or the Colorado/Canyon small trucks.

  1500 trucks can have GVWRs from 6600 on up to 8600 with 3600 RAWR up to 6084 RAWR with 10k-11k tow ratings and 3000+ lb payloads.

 

grassy

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2015, 08:20:23 AM »
Isn't that obvious that they are light ?  That is the point of this post..

What I was looking for (and many others as well) was a small, easy to pull 5th wheel trailer...take a look at them.  The truck wouldn't know they are on the back...and they have construction techniques that should be on larger trailers..

I was just tossing this out for others to see since there seems to be a delusion (promoted by trailer sales reps)  that a short box 1/2 can haul properly any 5th wheel....like I was told with a 34 footer...

« Last Edit: February 06, 2015, 08:22:31 AM by grassy »
2001 Freightliner FL60 Sport Chassis, 3126b, Jake, Air... Brakes, Cab & Rear Suspension, Ultra Shift
2010 Northwood Arctic Fox 29-5T (Silver Fox Edition)

tom_tom

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2015, 06:15:02 PM »
have a look at my profile... small light 5th wheels are out there but hard to find sometimes.
I pull mine with no issues at all.....
2014 Dodge Ram 1500 Longhorn Laramie, 4x4, Crew Cab, Hemi 5.7, 3.92 Rear End, 6'4" box, air suspension, 8 sp tranny
2012 Rockwood 8244S 26' Fifth Wheel

steveblonde

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2015, 06:23:44 PM »
i know the Rockwood is popular and Cougar by Keystone is another really popular 1/2 ton towable and personally i've seen a few of the Cougars hooked up to F150 s with what appears to be no issues at all. I also saw one hooked up to a Dodge 1500 and everytime he hit a speedbump in the campground the rear bumper scraped - which in its self was funny but the roars from the other campers was the best part.
2015 Voltage 3305 Toy Hauler - loaded
2014 F150 Ecoboost Reg cab (company truck) daily driver
2017 Black on Black F350 Diesel Dually loaded  5167lbs cargo/weight capacity
Selling truck parts for 15 yrs plus
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From Canada Eh

RobertRyan

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2015, 03:41:50 AM »
Here in Australia, Asian Pickups like this Mazda have no problem towing this Wildcat. Cruise at 60mph, fuel economy about twice that of a U.S. 1/2 ton
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/RobRyan7/image.jpg1_zpse6pug5y8.jpg

donuts

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2015, 10:18:16 AM »
Here in Australia, Asian Pickups like this Mazda have no problem towing this Wildcat. Cruise at 60mph, fuel economy about twice that of a U.S. 1/2 ton
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/RobRyan7/image.jpg1_zpse6pug5y8.jpg
I'm sure the Mazda will pull that Wildcat on a flat surface, but traveling the Sierra's in California might be a bit much. I would be darn nervous trying to stop that trailer going down a grade. Wonder what the owner did to retrofit the truck if anything?

Stan
Stan and Cindy
Fair Oaks, California
2014 GMC 2500 Sierra Duramax/Allison 4x4
2015 Fox Mountain 235RL
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RobertRyan

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2015, 01:02:50 PM »
I'm sure the Mazda will pull that Wildcat on a flat surface, but traveling the Sierra's in California might be a bit much. I would be darn nervous trying to stop that trailer going down a grade. Wonder what the owner did to retrofit the truck if anything?

Stan
Absolutely nothing , as far as modifications. Unlike US Midsizers, this has a 2,200-3000lb payload. No problem towing up Mountains for a 25-26 ft 5ver Global Midsizers used a lot for  towing in New Zealand, highest peak 12,000ft
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/RobRyan7/image.jpg1_zpsrxmcoumd.jpg
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RobertRyan

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2015, 01:29:47 PM »
In New Zealand they  make very few Towables, but a few Class's C's This company imports US , Australian and European Towables. Notice the lightweight 30ft 5ver pulled by a Ford Ranger(sister vehicle to the Mazda) 5th slide along
http://www.onthewayrv.co.nz
Another Company imports  the Keystone Cougar to New Zealand, see entry for the 244 model 26ft
http://www.boprv.co.nz/why-boprv/
Mountain roads in New Zealand
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/RobRyan7/image.jpg1_zpsha8wyabj.jpg
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donuts

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2015, 03:11:57 PM »
Last time I heard the word "ute" was in My Cousin Vinny ;D. What the heck is a Japanese "ute"?
By the way, I'm amazed with the payload of these trucks.

Stan
Stan and Cindy
Fair Oaks, California
2014 GMC 2500 Sierra Duramax/Allison 4x4
2015 Fox Mountain 235RL
SF Niner, SF Giants and GS Warrior Fan

RobertRyan

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Re: 2 true 5th wheel trailers for a half ton..
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2015, 05:18:52 PM »
Last time I heard the word "ute" was in My Cousin Vinny ;D. What the heck is a Japanese "ute"?
By the way, I'm amazed with the payload of these trucks.

Stan
A Japanese Pickup truck No nothing to do with a Tundra or Tacoma, they are all 3 litre Diesels, with at least 2,200lb min Payload. The " I Tonne" class of Global Pickup Truck is exploding. Unlike US Pickups, they are very good Off Road, have great Fuel Efficiency, but the trade off is they are narrower so you are not going to put 4 people in a DualCab for a lengthy journey, OK for two adults and two children. Ride is not hard despite the much heavier payloads, but "skittish " due to the fact that the Pickup has heavy loads. Ute is an Australian term that applied to the unique car/ trucks you see here, now applies to any Pickup, that can be used as a car i.e  A F250/F350 would be Utes
Single Cab will have the 3,000lb payloads, maximum I have seen is a 3,150lb
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/RobRyan7/image.jpg1_zpsh3lrzufk.jpg
Interior of 2015 Ford Ranger Wildtrak
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