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2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« on: February 17, 2015, 08:06:03 PM »
We arrived Sunday in Weatherford, TX at Ernie Eckberg's place for new flooring.  Jane had to drive back home (about 260 miles) since she volunteers in the local library and left me on my own for a week.  Hopefully I won't poison myself or ruin her galley stuff while I'm batching it, thankfully I did get directions on how to use the oven feature in the Advantium microwave/oven  :D.

Monday morning we did the usual routine of picking out engineered wood at a nearby flooring business and treads for the entry steps at a place in Ft. Worth.  Most of the wood samples were dark and featured the distressed look (like an old barn or hardware store floor) - wasn't interested in that.  We did find a light colored wood (Mohawk Sheridan Maple) that will keep the interior nice and bright (we took off a large cabinet door with us when we picked out the flooring.)  Ernie calculated we would need 270 sq.ft. so that and some nosing came to $1,614 with tax.

Monday afternoon Ernie and I began chipping out tile and it was going slowly - I thought this would take years but after a full day of work today, we got a bunch of the tile chipped up.  The very tedious job is chiseling the thinset tile cement down to avoid bumbs/humps/ridges when the new flooring is put down.

The power recliner sofa we decided is history - neither of us have ever liked it, Jane hates the busy fabric pattern.  In its place will be two La Z Boy Harbor Town rocker/recliners in Platinum (B127335) fabric, Jane just ordered these today with a 6-8 week delivery.

Since I had to remove our fixed table, we both like how that has opened up the salon and I'm seriously considering leaving it out and engineering a pull-out table from the Corian buffet/cabinetry where the old table lived.  Update.. just talked with DW and we're leaving the table permanently out so I'll have to come up with a plan for a pull-out replacement.

More tile chipping tomorrow  :P.

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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2015, 06:10:44 PM »
We had a good full day of work again and Ernie had a friend joining in on the fun - he didn't want to chip tile so I think this isn't his first rodeo  :D.  There is just a little bit of tile left at the entryway and some by the potty, the potty needs to come out before I can tackle that.

Ernie and Bim (the helper) disassembled the recliner couch and removed it in pieces and then most of the carpet was pulled up.  Our wood should arrive tomorrow, I'll be anxious to see what it looks like.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2015, 08:03:44 PM »
glad my shirt was tucked in~
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2015, 06:48:19 PM »
glad my shirt was tucked in~
You're always well dressed Ernie!  :D

Some of the day was spent running around, we went to the Mohawk warehouse somewhere near the DFW airport to pick up some of the flooring, for some odd reason only some of the flooring arrives - five boxes worth and the nose trip.  We also picked up a toilet flange seal for when the potty gets re-installed.

And of course, some of our least favorite activity happened today - more work with a chisel trying to get up the tile thinset cement.  It's tedious work but the end of that is at least in sight.  There will be more chisel work tomorrow and I don't know what else we will get to.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 03:28:47 PM »
looking good- untuck the shirt if you do plumbing, it seems to help.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 05:16:27 PM »
looking good- untuck the shirt if you do plumbing, it seems to help.
Page 42 of the Plumber's Handbook  ;).

Another couple hours of chipping thinset cement <sigh> today.  Ernie uses an inspection camera to locate slide rollers (accommodating slides is the very trick part of flooring an RV) but his camera broke so we went to Home Depot and he bought a new one this morning.  We both love looking at tools so we checked out a Bosch sliding miter saw I was recommending to him (my 2014 Christmas present to myself) and he got to see it in person.  I was also recommending Milwaukee cordless tools and did a show and tell at the Milwaukee display.  To demonstrate my commitment to Milwaukee, I bought a 12V right angle drill/driver right in front of him  :D wow, that was fun.  Hopefully he will follow the lead and ditch his centuries-old DeWalt NiCad right angle drill for a modern Milwaukee LiIon version.

Back to the project...

Ernie was spreading some floor patch today and after lunch we made the last trip to the Mohawk warehouse to pick up the final boxes of the flooring.  As promised, the lot numbers matched and all of the flooring should look the same.  There's a little thinset chipping left, the head needs to be removed and that area worked on (I have to leave for a few days Sunday) so Ernie can do that while I'm gone.  The bedroom (aft cabin for you nautical types) carpet needs to be pulled up.

Thoughts...

I am so glad I didn't attempt this project myself.  I've done a bunch of mods and improvements on our Horizon over the last ten years but I was very reticent to attempt this myself and boy was that a good great decision.  There is expertise involved as to knowing what works and what doesn't work and especially how to deal with slides.  Thoroughly happy with letting Ernie being the lead on this project and me being the day laborer.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2015, 05:58:13 PM »
We (Ernie, helper Bim, and me) got in a full day's work today with great progress.  Work accomplished today:

- More floor patch in the entryway area

- More thinset tile cement chipped out of the bathroom/shower area (we must have two or three man-days of chipping this very small area - seriously!)

- Bim removed the carpet in the aft cabin (bedroom) and I helped him figure out how to remove the dresser from the wall to pull the carpet out

- Ernie spent a couple of hours fitting nose trim around the entrance stairwell - when the step cover was extended it hit some trim so it took a bit of fiddling to work around that

- After Ernie got that figured out, he started putting a few planks down - whoo-hoo!

I have to put in a little pat on Ernie's back at this point.  I'm a very particular craftsman where it matters, i.e., where something will be obvious to the eye or very particular where something has to work correctly every time.  Ernie pays very close attention to detail - we are birds of a feather.  It's so refreshing to have somebody that cares about the quality of their work.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2015, 06:13:24 PM »
nice job on picking the flooring and color- it will look great when your done. I can see that you are staying out of trouble while the DW is gone! been enjoying the pictures.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2015, 06:25:58 PM »
Thanks Steve!  Too busy to get into trouble  :P.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2015, 06:19:43 AM »
new maple in John Canfields' Itasca
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2015, 07:17:37 AM »
I had to leave the coach  :P to go to doctor's appointments this week so I'll have to rely on Ernie for updates.  The maple is a great contrast to the cherry cabinetry - exactly the look we were shooting for.  Thanks for the pictures Ernie!  (And thanks for your craftsmanship!)
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2015, 06:07:49 PM »
more photos from today
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2015, 07:38:20 PM »
Looks fantastic Ernie!  It gets exponentially better looking every day  :D.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2015, 10:16:09 AM »
it is looking awesome- great fit and finish. looking forward to seeing the final results.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 06:18:33 AM »
more progress
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2015, 06:40:35 AM »
Nice looking work.
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2015, 07:42:15 AM »
Oh my, this is looking better and better every day - it's killing me to not see it in person  :P.
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2015, 04:46:39 PM »
progress:
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2015, 06:10:44 AM »
wood on the slide
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2015, 08:21:28 AM »
wood on the slide

Ernie,
I see that there has to be a space between the floor and the bottom of the wood for the slide. How do you keep the wood from cracking at the joints if you just happen to step on the edge of the slide floor?  It would have the tendency to flex I would think.   ::)
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2015, 06:47:22 PM »
The only way wood can be added to the slide is by adding a layer of plywood. The layer can vary in thickness due to the configuration of your slide, type of wood installed and type and dimensions of the stair nose trim used. By adding all this on the slide, there is some deflection when the slide is retracted and I caution clients on this. The strength is when the slide is deployed and rests on the main floor.
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2015, 06:49:22 PM »
with 99% completion:
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2015, 08:51:38 PM »
The only way wood can be added to the slide is by adding a layer of plywood. The layer can vary in thickness due to the configuration of your slide, type of wood installed and type and dimensions of the stair nose trim used. By adding all this on the slide, there is some deflection when the slide is retracted and I caution clients on this. The strength is when the slide is deployed and rests on the main floor.

Have you had any issues with slide operation by adding all this extra weight?  What's the dimension of the gap when the slide is retracted?  Could you just locate like maybe a rubber block to slide in the gap just during travel
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2015, 09:53:47 PM »
Looking good John, you took it to the right guy. its one thing to hear how good someone is, but it's awhole different ball game when you see how good he is. Someday Ernie I will have the time and money to come see you. great job.

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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2015, 06:04:51 AM »
with all the tile removed at 5+ pounds per square foot,, the weight of the wood is a non issue. I give clients pieces of LVT planks to put under the side when it is retracted in case the side is running low.
I have installed 6, 3/4 inch planks
The gap when closed is around the same as when it had carpet wrapped on it.
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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2015, 07:07:13 AM »
stepwell slide
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2015, 07:41:25 AM »
Ernie's craftsmanship is great, but what really impresses me is that he can stand after kneeing with his legs tucked under him like that while he works.   
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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2015, 11:39:48 AM »
Looks nice John. What a difference! Great job Ernie.

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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2015, 05:31:53 PM »
Ernie's craftsmanship is great, but what really impresses me is that he can stand after kneeing with his legs tucked under him like that while he works.
and-- after 43 years in the business, with no knee pads- pretty good for old geezer
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2015, 09:25:49 AM »
Ernie's craftsmanship is great, but what really impresses me is that he can stand after kneeing with his legs tucked under him like that while he works.
Ernie's version of Yoga  ;D.

It all looks so great!  We had to leave the coach with Ernie due to prior commitments so we are very anxious to see it in person.
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