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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2015, 11:22:08 AM »
So, John, do you mind sharing the total cost of this project? 

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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2015, 07:22:20 PM »
No, not at all.  Ernie charges $300 a day for labor and our engineered flooring was less than $2k - forgot the exact amount.  Then some odds 'n ends which were less than $500.  I think we'll have around $5k in the entire project.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2015, 07:48:27 PM »
Thanks John.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2015, 07:06:00 AM »
Finally had some decent weather to completed the complicated entry.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2015, 09:36:28 AM »
That looks super Ernie! Fantastic job - we now have a brand-new coach!  ;D
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2015, 12:22:13 PM »
congrats on the new flooring. wife and I found some dark cherry flooring at lowes that we really like, but it is a lamente snap lock was wondering if it would work in the mh or if the floor needed to be glued down?
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2015, 06:12:10 AM »
Since I like to cut the material tight against the walls, that is why I adhere the engineered wood. The snap lock system has you angle the whole row of material and fold it down. That is why it is not possible to cut it against the walls and trim must be used. Ok for a S & B home
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2015, 06:46:41 AM »
Ernie, great looking job.

John, congratulations on your new "look", it is certainly a nice investment, and I love the entryway and your choice of color.

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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2015, 08:31:49 AM »
Thanks John!  Unfortunately the entry area needs to be redone, Ernie didn't realize the two middle steps are hinged to provide access to the HWH pump/reservoir/solenoid unit.  We'll head there after we leave Moab in early May.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2015, 08:53:50 AM »
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wife and I found some dark cherry flooring at lowes that we really like, but it is a lamente snap lock was wondering if it would work in the mh or if the floor needed to be glued down?

I don't see any problem with it, but you do have to use trim moldings if the floor is floating (not glued down). Fitting moldings around the entry steps can be tedious and may have some tripping potential if the moldings are thick. If you have a flush floor slide, you also need to look under the lip of the slide and figure out how to lock down the edge of the laminate underneath it. Just how you would do that depends on the design of the slide.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2015, 03:41:30 PM »
Wow John .... what a huge project, man-hours wise.  At least if we do ours, we won't have the tile chipping/thinset cement phase to deal with.  We have carpet and linoleum.  Probably have a bunch of other headaches to deal with tho.

Sure hope we get a firsthand look-see if the timing works out to meet up in Tucson.   

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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2015, 05:22:34 PM »
Thanks John!  Unfortunately the entry area needs to be redone, Ernie didn't realize the two middle steps are hinged to provide access to the HWH pump/reservoir/solenoid unit.  We'll head there after we leave Moab in early May.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2015, 07:53:21 AM »
Wow John .... what a huge project, man-hours wise.  At least if we do ours, we won't have the tile chipping/thinset cement phase to deal with.  We have carpet and linoleum.  Probably have a bunch of other headaches to deal with tho.

Sure hope we get a firsthand look-see if the timing works out to meet up in Tucson.   

OBTW....I think you're married to this coach for life now  ;D ;D ;D
Oh my, chipping the tile was a bunch of work and in some areas the thinset cement was like epoxy.  Getting your old flooring up would be easy-peasy.  Hope we can hook up with you in Tucson!

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Not an issue Ernie, we are no stranger to the oops category.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2015, 07:59:27 AM »
so I would probably better off buying engineered or real would flooring an not messing with this snap lock stuff. :-\ thanks for the info. ;)
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2015, 11:13:46 AM »
Update:

We stopped by Weatherford (Ernie's place) to have the entryway tweaked last week so the two middle steps can be raised and the fix was really easy.  When the treads were pulled off the step, the step would raise up - it cleared the wood on the sides  :D.  The other step hit the nose trim and Ernie had to notch the metal step corners a little bit so the step be raised almost to its original open position.  Then the new treads were simply re-inserted on the step - the wood trim captured the tread ends and a little Velcro held the front lip of the tread down.  A simple yet elegant fix.

This Monday the furniture store delivered the two new La-Z-Boy recliners we ordered mid February.  From time of order placed to delivery to the store took ten weeks  :P.  Of course we were in Utah when the recliners came in.  Jane picked out a great fabric to compliment the interior - the recliners look great!

Here's a couple of pictures of the new recliners.  Note the slides are retracted for the pictures, the salon looks huge with the slides extended (and since we didn't re-install the original table.)  We're using "TV" tray tables for dining and those have worked out really, really well.  On my coach to-do list is to make a pull-out table to replace the original one - I'll use this for the keyboard/mouse and maybe for dining if I can make it large enough.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2015, 03:45:39 PM »
Nice John! I wish our motorhome had that much room with the slides in. Ours is barely usable...  barely.

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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2015, 03:59:58 PM »
Kev - yup.  The designers sacrificed slides-in room for maximum area with slides out with the newer models.  Also I think they pushed the interior space down a bit which took up some basement space compared to older models.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2015, 06:00:20 PM »
 it really looks great- very nice job!
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2015, 09:56:51 PM »
Nice looking chairs John.  I love the wood accent on the arms.

Will you be able to secure the chairs while traveling?  I assume they have to be moved away from the wall to recline.  Are they rocker-recliners? ...with (no) swivel?   

Our original Euro-recliner is showing signs of wearing out and will need replacing in a year or so.  You and Jane have picked a winner.   
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2015, 06:14:13 AM »
Nice looking chairs. Seem to have seen one of those before~
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2015, 07:47:07 AM »
Thanks for the kind remarks.

..Will you be able to secure the chairs while traveling?  I assume they have to be moved away from the wall to recline.  Are they rocker-recliners? ...with (no) swivel?  ..
Bill - yes, they will be secured with the leftover seat belts from the old recliner couch.  The chairs are rocker-recliner (no swivel, that's not a good idea!) and do need to be pulled out a bit from the wall to recline.  The chairs immediately felt comfortable when I sat in one when shopping - there's a nice lumbar support cushion area that is kind to my back.

First exposure to the recliner was in Ernie's Bluebird bus, I'm just following the herd  :D.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2015, 03:27:54 PM »
Sorry to bring this thread back up and if i am asking questions in the wrong place, please let me know.  Now that the disclaimers are out of the way, I would like to ask a couple questions  about this flooring project as I may need to do this in the near future. 

As this is not the "floating floor" like the household laminate flooring common in the last several years, what exactly is it?  Is the flooring adhered to the base with glue? Cement?  Is it self adhering?  Why is it important to know where the slide tracks are? 

I'm sorry if these are rookie type questions but I am less than a rookie.  I am in the process of buying a 2006 Coachman Encore 40ts.  This will be my first motorhome and I would like to update the interior to suit my needs.  I'm sure I will have many more rookie questions. Thanks for all the photos and descriptions here as they are invaluable.

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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2015, 06:09:05 AM »
The material is engineered wood, adhered with urethane adhesive. The first thing to observe is what type of slide do you have. From there we can go forward with your project
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2015, 09:23:47 AM »
Thank you Mr. Ekberg.  As soon as I get the MH I will start a new thread with the slide info and more questions.  Thank you very much.

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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2016, 12:19:28 AM »
Hi John, new to the forum but have benefited greatly from your posts, thank you! 
Love the flooring project pics but wondered if you did away with your table?
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #55 on: September 28, 2016, 08:53:05 AM »
Sure did!  I built a pull-out table - project write-up here.
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2016, 05:50:01 PM »
One of these days, I'd like to see Johns' shop when we are in Fredricksburg
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #57 on: September 28, 2016, 07:14:39 PM »
Come on down Ernie! (When we're there ;) )  Love to show you around!
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2016, 12:47:21 PM »
The material is engineered wood, adhered with urethane adhesive. The first thing to observe is what type of slide do you have. From there we can go forward with your project

This has been a very helpful post. Thanks.  Couple of questions from another novice. Still in the dreaming stage. MH (2004 Fleetwood Flair) is stored in Cottonwood AZ and have been unsuccessful in locating a pro for assistance.  During your prep you removed the jack seat - anything else? Did you take out the kitchen cabinets? Walls that separate the bathroom? I don't have a slide, so that will make things easier, but what about getting the linoleum out from under the built in dinette seats? Carpet under the bed? Leave it? Rip it out? Engine cover is also carpeted - leave it carpeted or is there another treatment you can recommend? Why glue down vs floating? Seems glue down would buckle and split with temperature changes and vibrations, or am I looking at it wrong?
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Re: 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD - new flooring project
« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2016, 05:02:21 PM »
wow- lot of questions
I remove the captains chairs, the sofa and the booth- never touch walls or cabinets
Cut the carpet around the bed base
recarpet the doghouse
I adhere ALL my engineered wood with urethane adhesive. That is my choice of installation which means I can cut the wood tight against the cabinets, walls, etc.
when the urethane has gone thru its curing stage there is never an issue. heat, vibration never an issue- I have had zero call back using this installation method that is why I stick with it
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